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Who Is The Best WRESTLER In The WWE

Depends on the categorys...

Bell to bell? Daniel Bryan. This guy can carry any match technically and make anyone and himself look good.

Excitement? Sin Cara. If WWE 12 had a command list of moves...this guy would have several pages full, new bloody move every match! :D

Comedy? Santino. We all need a good laugh sometimes! :D

Main event? Cena/Punk/Orton? (Dont like Ortan much tbh) Great matches if they give it their all.

Mentor? Regal. Old man, but what a wrestler! :D
 
I like what "Heaven's Vibe" did there. Lots of people defining/redefining "best wrestler." It's like defining "best actor." There are just too many styles to compare straight up. TWJC, who I often agree with, is sticking with one pretty narrow definition and dismissing all others while they are talking about something completely different. At the same time, TW is making a very valid point about drawing power being a huge factor. The ONLY factor if you define "best" in a certain way.

HV broke it down by categories, and while we could quibble about the categories selected, these are pretty valid. I deferred to my kids on the "excitement" question since that is how they watch wrestling and they gave me Evan Bourne and John Morrison. Other than that, I have no prob with HV's choices.

On the discussion of amateur background. A great amateur background is a cool angle to work, but doesn't help much (besides the fantastic conditioning) in pro wrestling. I direct a lot of local plays. I always write fight scenes into just about everything I do. My fairly strong amateur wrestling background has never come into play in creating staged fights (which are basically the same thing as WWE.) My training in stage combat really only helps with swords and hair-pulling girl fights. My limited martial arts background helps more than either, but by far the biggest help is watching pro wrestling. We do decent fights for how limited our actors' training is. Staged fights are an art form unto themselves and to get true professional quality you have to be specifically trained in it.
 
Amateur wrestling does not equal pro wrestling which is why Swagger for his accolades isn't that good. Having said that I'm going to chime in on a few of my opinions:

John Cena: Are you kidding me? He's only the top guy because he's been pushed down our throats. We have no choice NOT to see him if we want to watch RAW. He is technically underrated in my books though. He put up some great matches earlier in his WWE career before the "5 moves of doom" were introduced. As for being the best entertainer, when you're a FACE and at least half the crowd BOOS you, you're not doing your job. The only reason why he's taken his stance of performing for those who respect what he gives them is because that's how it worked out. I'm pretty sure he wasn't expecting all the boos he's been getting but if that's the way it is, well that's the way it is. He doesn't draw ratings like a top performer should either, as a lot of people simply don't care for him.

CM Punk: He's always been a good technical wrestler and is one of the top 10 of all time on the mic. As of right now he's my favourite in the business today.

Daniel Bryan: He seems to me at least to be the next coming of Chris Benoit. Very technically sound and over with the crowd. If he was a little bigger (around Benoit's size) then he'd be even more over than he is now.

Santino Marella: VERY underrated wrestler. He's had the crowd behind him for a while and has a certain flare (whether for comedy etc.) in the ring and tells a story brilliantly. He should be pushed back up to top mid-card status IMO.

Sheamus: Has the whole package: Big, agile for his size, portrays his character real well, and is one of the most believable characters in his actions in and out of the ring.

Christian: As a fellow Canadian I still must say I think he's incredibly overrated. It's always been EDGE and Christian for a reason. He's not horrible but not that great either, and his finisher, what can I say? I still can't make heads or tails out of it.

To close this out i'm going to say something about Hulk Hogan. No one in their right mind can tell you he could ever wrestle his way out of a paper bag. He was quoted before as being rated 9-10 as a performer and a 1 as a wresler. It was his character and persona that got him over and why he was seen as one of the best champions of all time. I have Wreslemania 6 on VHS and his main event match against the Ultimate Warrior was probably one of the worst matches of all time, but the crowd was eating right out of the palm of their hands. That's what pro wrestling is about.
 
This question gets asked a lot....

The best WRESTLER, I think means that it is the absolute best. They are all technically "wrestlers". Meaning, brawlers, cruiserweights, technicians, tag team specialists, roided out freaks, fat guys, guys with obscene gimmicks...All Wrestlers...

You also have to look at the money they draw. How over are they? Hulk Hogan wasn't the best mat technician...not even close. Did his matches mean something? More than anyones ever.

So...thus being said...John Cena is THE best wrestler in the WWE. Every veteran has said in interviews, the guy works his tail off. (minus Chavo Guerrero)...everyone. His matches bring the crowd to life. They pull you in. Even if that means you don't want to see him win. You pay...because he just might lose, and you want to see it.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!

This question could also mean best TECHNICAL Wrestler. The question is a catch.

The best Wrestler "Wrestler" in the WWE...Is indeed Daniel "American Dragon" Bryan. The guy could go with anyone. Kurt Angle, Misawa, Kobashi, Flair, Piper, Perfect, Guerrero, Punk, Regal, Dynamite...etc etc...He is old school, throwback wrestler...he is perfect.
 
Punk, hands down.

- Bryan is a fantastic technician, he is able to have great matches that are interesting and tell a story, but he has too many bad habits that are too hard to shake e.g. hurting his shoulder in every match and holding onto it for the rest of the bout...seriously, you'd have to be an idiot to keep doing the same move where you hurt yourself badly and take out your own shoulder...

- Kidd is the last graduate of the Hart Dungeon and a great wrestler, reminds me of a lighter Owen Hart, he has the ability to mat wrestle, technical wrestling, submissions and high flying, but he is a cruiserweight and couldn't compete with the main eventers.

- Christian, meh.

CM Punk is by far the best wrestler when you put all of his attributes together, the whole package and then some.
 
1) If you are meaning the best in-ring performer, then it definately goes to Daniel Bryan which seems to be the overall conclusion from what I am reading in this topic. He has outstanding in-ring ability and puts a great match on every time he steps in the ring and gives it all he has got.

The only problem with him is his mic skills and the fact he can't cut a decent promo. This is definately the department he lacks in at the moment unfortunately and as a result, the crowd doesn't get behind him as much as he perhaps deserves. But he is young and still has a lot of time left to win the crowd over and capatalise on this.


2) If you are meaning who is the best wrestler taking into account in-ring ability and charisma then it definately has to go to CM Punk. Punk puts on a great match too and has a great set of skills in the ring, albeit not quite as varied as Bryan. He is up there with the best of all time at cutting a promo and these skills all put together make him the best in the WORLD!
 
The two best wrestlers in the WWE right now are John Cena and Randy Orton. No other wrestlers in the WWE can sell, draw, work, or entertain more than these two. All you'd have to do is walk into a silent arena and say either "Cena" or "Orton" and the crowd would go crazy for ten minutes straight without stopping.

Guys like CM Punk, the Miz, and Sheamus will undoubtedly be huge within the next 5 years. And guys like Daniels, Ziggler, Barrett, and Del Rio will be huge in 10. But for now Cena and Orton will remain top dogs.
 
Everything you say after the bolded part is irrelevant. Having a lot of moves does not mean you're a good wrestler you munt, ANYBODY can do a bunch of moves. If you sit for one day in training I'm sure you could learn how to do 7 or 8 moves perfectly, but see how long it takes to learn how to take those moves and sell them properly. Bumping and selling are by far the most difficult qualities to master in wrestling and no one does that better than Cena.

This effort to differentiate entertainer from wrestler is a fucking joke. Wrestling is entertainment. If you're watching wrestling for flippies and athletic competition, you're kind of a simp. Wrestling is about storytelling and captivating an audience. If it were about doing a shitload of different moves, Daniel Bryan wouldn't make his entrance to the complete silence every week.



Not the case at all, but I'd take being forced into a garbage can over the life of drunken spousal abuse you're destined for.



You're too original. You're obviously a cena fan which means you're either 5 years old, a loser, or have no male parts. Kids cheer cena. Men cheer people like Miz, Punk, Christian, Orton, etc. If you watch wrestling for the entertainment cena puts out, then the only story being told is the amount of men you'll lay in bed with over the course of your shitty life. I'm apparently not the only one who think he sucks because about 3/4 of every arena the dude shows up in agrees with me and that is that he fucking sucks. He does two shoulder dives, a tilt-a-whirl, 5 knuckle thing, goes for aa, gets countered, goes for stf, then aa again. man, a hell of a story. dude may be in great shape but he no sells everything. that's not cool to me, or any adult who has realized that wearing jorts and 18 wristbands is not cool. watch mania 22,23,24,25,26,27. he gets his ass booed. big time. no real WRESTLING fan likes him. argue all you want, but he sucks and i guess you suck too or you'd like to suck him.

Now, go put on your bright red shirt, hat, and sweatbands and cry to your mother cause I insulted your hero.
 
Holy christ there are a lot of marks here.

The two best wrestlers in the WWE are the two guys that have main evented the last two pay per views: John Cena and CM Punk.

What defines a great wrestler? According to Bret Hart, a guy who never injures the guy he's going against. According to most other people, a guy who can, theoretically, of course, get a wet mop over with the crowd. By wet mop obviously they don't literally mean an inanimate object, but a wet mop being a bland nobody. Perhaps a local guy, or a jobber, or a midget, or...well, I won't go any further because the longer I talk on this subject the more offensive it gets.

So, who in the WWE right now could get anybody, including that wet mop, over with the crowd.

#1 is obviously John Cena. Everybody either loves him or hates him, so everybody would be cheering for (or against) that wet mop. If you know OF John Cena, you have an opinion of him, and chances are, that opinion is one extreme or another. I don't think I've ever asked somebody "hey man, you know John Cena? What do you think of him?" and gotten a "meh, he's okay" response. It's always either "He is awesome" or "HE FKING SUCKS" and most of the time there's some passion behind it. Cena has his niche and if you like him in his niche you love him, if you don't, you hate him.

#2 is CM Punk. Why? Because he can get anybody over without even stepping into the ring. He can TALK people into the seats, he can TALK himself over, and he can TALK other people over. Do you think Kevin Nash would have been able to get himself as over as a heel as he did without Punk's help? Hell no. The fact that Punk is so phenomenally talented on the mic is an asset that the WWE can needs to take full advantage of, and for the last 2 months, they have been doing just that. The only guy who, at this point in time, can be considered to be a draw on the WWE roster (aside from John Cena) is CM Punk.

A VERY, and I do mean VERY close 3rd is Randy Orton. The only reason I see Punk as being Orton's superior is because Orton still hasn't gotten that ever-important ability to sell tickets on the microphone. He has more of that "it-factor" (aka he's 6'4 ripped and makes ladies cream themselves) than Punk ever has, but he just doesn't have the gift of gab, and Punk does.
 
You're too original. You're obviously a cena fan which means you're either 5 years old, a loser, or have no male parts. Kids cheer cena. Men cheer people like Miz, Punk, Christian, Orton, etc. If you watch wrestling for the entertainment cena puts out, then the only story being told is the amount of men you'll lay in bed with over the course of your shitty life. I'm apparently not the only one who think he sucks because about 3/4 of every arena the dude shows up in agrees with me and that is that he fucking sucks. He does two shoulder dives, a tilt-a-whirl, 5 knuckle thing, goes for aa, gets countered, goes for stf, then aa again. man, a hell of a story. dude may be in great shape but he no sells everything. that's not cool to me, or any adult who has realized that wearing jorts and 18 wristbands is not cool. watch mania 22,23,24,25,26,27. he gets his ass booed. big time. no real WRESTLING fan likes him. argue all you want, but he sucks and i guess you suck too or you'd like to suck him.

Now, go put on your bright red shirt, hat, and sweatbands and cry to your mother cause I insulted your hero.
You should change your name to "King Mark" or something like that, because you sir are one of the most hilariously delusional marks I've ever seen. I am not a Cena Fan, I do not like seeing the title on him, but at least I acknowledge that he is the best in the business right now. If you were a new wrestler trying to break into the WWE and they told you "alright, you can have ONE match, and we're going to grade how good your match was based on the crowd response. You can choose your opponent, though, and if you get booed it will count just as much as if you get cheered; all you want is a reaction". Who would you choose? Sure as fuck not Daniel Bryan or Christian or Tyson fucking Kidd, you would go with the sure thing: John Cena. You know 100% that whoever Cena is wrestling, the crowd is going to feel and express something. If pro wrestling were only about the number of moves that somebody executes in the ring, I guarantee your ass that Cena, Orton, Mysterio etc would all do way more moves during their comebacks than they do currently. You are over-analyzing an aspect of the business that has been around since before you were born, and you are doing it because the first guy that you noticed doing it was John Cena, who you passionately dislike. That is my point exactly. Good day to you sir, and I appreciate your help in proving me right.
 
You should change your name to "King Mark" or something like that, because you sir are one of the most hilariously delusional marks I've ever seen. I am not a Cena Fan, I do not like seeing the title on him, but at least I acknowledge that he is the best in the business right now. If you were a new wrestler trying to break into the WWE and they told you "alright, you can have ONE match, and we're going to grade how good your match was based on the crowd response. You can choose your opponent, though, and if you get booed it will count just as much as if you get cheered; all you want is a reaction". Who would you choose? Sure as fuck not Daniel Bryan or Christian or Tyson fucking Kidd, you would go with the sure thing: John Cena. You know 100% that whoever Cena is wrestling, the crowd is going to feel and express something. If pro wrestling were only about the number of moves that somebody executes in the ring, I guarantee your ass that Cena, Orton, Mysterio etc would all do way more moves during their comebacks than they do currently. You are over-analyzing an aspect of the business that has been around since before you were born, and you are doing it because the first guy that you noticed doing it was John Cena, who you passionately dislike. That is my point exactly. Good day to you sir, and I appreciate your help in proving me right.

No you don't understand the thread.Who is the best WRESTLER not charasmatic etc.....the best actual wrestler.Daniel Bryan is the best wrestler his a great in-ring technician and can wrestle all different kinds of styles, can sell moves well,he can mat wrestle,chain wrestle etc..And no it depends what kind of Wrestler you like,not everyone will want to wrestle Cena.
 
No you don't understand the thread.Who is the best WRESTLER not charasmatic etc.....the best actual wrestler.Daniel Bryan is the best wrestler his a great in-ring technician and can wrestle all different kinds of styles, can sell moves well,he can mat wrestle,chain wrestle etc..And no it depends what kind of Wrestler you like,not everyone will want to wrestle Cena.
Congratulations, you just proved that you are a mark. Pro Wrestling is a business. Pro Wrestling is and has always been about who can draw the most money. Daniel Bryan doesn't draw a dime. I absolutely love watching him work, and I thoroughly enjoyed his ROH work, but he isn't a draw yet. If we're talking simply "who's matches do you enjoy watching the most," then sure, Bryan is up there, with Morrison, Ziggler, Bourne, Punk, Kidd and Gabriel. But are they the best wrestlers? No. The topic title is "Who Is The Best WRESTLER In The WWE," not "Which WWE Superstar is your favorite to watch in the ring," and yes, they are very different questions. The best wrestler is the wrestler who draws the most money, simple as that. As of right now, it's Cena followed by Punk followed by Orton.
 
Congratulations, you just proved that you are a mark. Pro Wrestling is a business. Pro Wrestling is and has always been about who can draw the most money. Daniel Bryan doesn't draw a dime. I absolutely love watching him work, and I thoroughly enjoyed his ROH work, but he isn't a draw yet. If we're talking simply "who's matches do you enjoy watching the most," then sure, Bryan is up there, with Morrison, Ziggler, Bourne, Punk, Kidd and Gabriel. But are they the best wrestlers? No. The topic title is "Who Is The Best WRESTLER In The WWE," not "Which WWE Superstar is your favorite to watch in the ring," and yes, they are very different questions. The best wrestler is the wrestler who draws the most money, simple as that. As of right now, it's Cena followed by Punk followed by Orton.

Oh Im SOOOOO Sorry,Na not .And maybe I should named the thread 'Best in ring techician' so u can understand the meaning of the thread.You can tell what I was talking about if u read what i wrote when I made this thread.And if i get a point for spamming,that is total Crap,Im just saying something which will make you understand.
 
Well I understand it and in terms of Wrestling Daniel Bryan is the best in the WWE. Best entertainer would speak about how much they draw but this topic specifically says WRESTLER!!!! Bryan and Punk are the 2 best right now Tyson Kidd is up there as well. The WWE has alot of simply good workers though. They may not be the best but they can hold there own and look good with those guys considered the best.
 
No you don't understand the thread.Who is the best WRESTLER not charasmatic etc.....the best actual wrestler.Daniel Bryan is the best wrestler his a great in-ring technician and can wrestle all different kinds of styles, can sell moves well,he can mat wrestle,chain wrestle etc..And no it depends what kind of Wrestler you like,not everyone will want to wrestle Cena.



I agree with you. Kayoh or whatever the fuck his name is, is obviously a dude who fondles himself with his "knowledge" of wrestling. When I watch, I want to be entertained. Cena doesn't do that for me. Or for lots of people. Watcht the show buddy. Cena gets his ass booed. Definitely not the best. Get over yourself. If I could wrestle one man on the roster, Undertaker. No question. If I couldn't get that match, cm punk. Cause if i couldn't keep up, he'd carry me. Cena couldn't. Big difference in talent. If cena's opponent can't carry him then the match will suck. Cm punk vs cena. classic. cena vs r truth. boring. difference there. CM PUNK IS A GUY WHO CAN CARRY HIS OPPONENT IF NEEDED. Cena is not, never has, and never will be the best wrestler. And that is a concrete fact.
 
I would have to say Daniel Bryan. Every match I watch of his is a real treat. He personifies what it means to be a "PRO WRESTLER". I mean he's not my favorite from a fan stand point as I haven't been given much of a chance to rate his charisma, but from a pure wrestling stand point he is top notch. I'm glad he won the mitb also. If he really cashes it in at wm like he says he will, depending on his opponent, we could have one hell of a main event in store for us.
 
Every person you stated in your Post is decent to me, i don't rate Bryan at all, i like the guy, but he botches a load of moves, he isn't diverse, submissions aren't thrilling tbh either, Tyson Kid.. i guess i cant comment to much of this considering i only watch Raw or Smack down one in a while, CM Punk he's a damn impressive speaker, once again nothing special in the ring, he also didn't carry the MITB match, Cena didn't even botch any moves Punk did, overall he's quite decent, but whats so thrilling about his in ring abilities?

Christian, yeah he's pretty damn solid doesn't really botch many moves and seems to put a lot of emotion into what he does, still he's nothing special if you ask me, he doesn't pull of any amazing matches with a story in them

Best current wrestler? or wrestlers... not to sure tbh, i'll say John Morrison even tho people for some weird reason say he's a stunt man, he botches every now and then, tho he brings flavor to a match. amazing spins, incredible athlete and the stuff he did at Royal rumble was amazing,

Chris Jericho, i know he isn;t in WWE atm, but the man truly puts on great matches every year, he has a wide variety of moves, pulls you into a match with his promo's and while in the match he expresses himself perfectly, regardless of him being a heel or face persona
 
Daniel Bryan Danielson

A Wrestlers true qualities are shown when they make absolute pieces of crap look good when they are jobbed out to an up and coming star.
People say he is good because he trained with Shawn Michaels, I say he is good because he trained with William Regal. Regal makes/made good matches weather he wins or loses and although their styles are different I still see a lot of Regal in Danielson, even more so than Michaels. If WWE let him do half the things he is able to do then he wins this thread by a short distance.
The problem is I don’t want to see him become the Heavyweight or WWE champion, because if I had it my way once Rey Rey is out the way, the smaller guys will go back to making the other titles credible again and not even have an interest in the HW & WWE titles.:shrug:
 
I agree with you. Kayoh or whatever the fuck his name is, is obviously a dude who fondles himself with his "knowledge" of wrestling. When I watch, I want to be entertained. Cena doesn't do that for me. Or for lots of people. Watcht the show buddy. Cena gets his ass booed. Definitely not the best. Get over yourself. If I could wrestle one man on the roster, Undertaker. No question. If I couldn't get that match, cm punk. Cause if i couldn't keep up, he'd carry me. Cena couldn't. Big difference in talent. If cena's opponent can't carry him then the match will suck. Cm punk vs cena. classic. cena vs r truth. boring. difference there. CM PUNK IS A GUY WHO CAN CARRY HIS OPPONENT IF NEEDED. Cena is not, never has, and never will be the best wrestler. And that is a concrete fact.
You aren't entertained by Cena, that is an opinion. John Cena is the top draw in Pro Wrestling today, that is a fact. "Who Is The Best WRESTLER In The WWE" is the name of this topic, not "Who is the most entertaining superstar in the WWE". Cena gets booed, yes. Guess what, though. If Cena is in a feud with somebody, the people booing him will see the guy he's feuding with as better because of it; right there, Cena elevated whoever the guy was that he was feuding with.

Undertaker isn't an active wrestler. When he is, though, I will give you that he is without a doubt one of the best.

CM Punk isn't perfect in the ring. I'll give you that over the last 2 months, he is without a doubt one of the best wrestlers in the WWE. He can sell tickets without stepping foot into the ring because he is just that damn good on the mic. On the other hand, he botches, just like almost everyone else, obviously including guys like Cena and Taker. Watch MitB, he had a few botches in his amazing match with...oh, that's right, John Cena.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of what "carrying an opponent" means. It doesn't mean "using the most moves to keep the crowd entertained despite the opponent sucking". Carrying an opponent means telling a meaningful story regardless of who is on the other side of the ring, and that is exactly what John Cena does.

Stop acting like Pro Wrestling is some kind of athletic competition where the best athletes and the guys who use the most diverse movesets are the best. They aren't. They're the most athletic, sure. But they aren't the best wrestlers.

The best wrestlers are the wrestlers who DRAW THE MOST MONEY. THAT is the only fact that exists in the wrestling world regarding this topic. Cena IS the best wrestler. Stop confusing wrestling for movesets. Just because Daniel Bryan has a suicide dive spot in his arsenal doesn't make him a better wrestler than Cena. Just because Daniel Bryan uses a few different submission holds doesn't make him a better wrestler than Cena. The fact that John Cena's name being on a card will make you more money than Daniel Bryan's name being on a card makes Cena a better wrestler than Bryan. It isn't the fucking olympics, it's a business.
 
Daniel Bryan Danielson
Let me start off by saying Daniel Bryan was one hell of a wrestler in ROH and othe rIndependent companies but to say he's the best in the WWE is a bit of a stretch. Daniel Bryan, while good, hasn't done much to be cconsidered the WWE's best wrestler. In the WWE, you need to show a lot of charisma to be considered one of the greats. Don't get me wrong, I love Daniel Bryan, but he lacks charisma to be considered good in the WWE.
A Wrestlers true qualities are shown when they make absolute pieces of crap look good when they are jobbed out to an up and coming star.
Like who exactly?
People say he is good because he trained with Shawn Michaels, I say he is good because he trained with William Regal. Regal makes/made good matches weather he wins or loses and although their styles are different I still see a lot of Regal in Danielson, even more so than Michaels.
That's not necessarily good. Regal, while gifted, didn't show as much a Shawn Michaels did. Michaels was one of the best story tellers ever in the WWE; possibly the greatest worker. If you ask me, I would rather compare Daniel Bryan and HBK then Bryan to Regal.
If WWE let him do half the things he is able to do then he wins this thread by a short distance.
More moves do not equal better wrestler; charisma, storytelling, and selling equal better wrestler. Daniel Bryan has two if those three things locked down but lacks charisma.
The problem is I don’t want to see him become the Heavyweight or WWE champion, because if I had it my way once Rey Rey is out the way, the smaller guys will go back to making the other titles credible again and not even have an interest in the HW & WWE titles.:shrug:
Main events on PPVs normally get 15-20 minutes on a PPV. If Daniel Bryan can go for that long with someone like Randy Orton and dust off some of that untapped charisma, he can be a true star.
 
I think CM Punk has it going right now. Since most of the good guys are off making movies and junk (Stone Cold) CM Punk is what we got. At least the Rock is coming back but it will still suck between him and Cena because they will have to let him win. CM Punk on the other hand can continue to make a great impact in the WWE. As long as he hits his role of going against "the man" this could have the potential to become another Stone Cold vs Vince if they play their cards right, perhaps even better. Thats my opinion at least
 
I don't know, that's a really tough list to choose from, but if I had too, it would be a tie between Tyson Kidd and Daniel Bryan. I've just started really noticing Kidd, because I just started really watching WWE Superstars on Youtube, but he is an amazing talent and I hope one day the WWE will use him like he should be.

And as for Daniel Bryan, there's not much to be said about him, he's shows you how fantastic he is every week. Fantastic talent, I hope he wins at Wrestlemania next year!
 
Also Daniel Bryan, Alberto del Rio, Drew McIntyre, and Mistico (if they start fixing things with him) can all become future greats within the WWE. Alberto del Rio is the current WWE Champion while Bryan is the money in the Bank winner for Smackdown. For those two things are looking good but McIntyre can be one of the greatest heels if they find him a place and put in over with somebody big like Orton. Mistico is great, while else would WWE hire him now they just need to get things straight with him. Hunico is good but only Mistico can play Sin Cara
 
Randy Orton is the best in ring WWE Talent when it comes to straight forward wrestling.

John Cena is 2nd to Orton, only because Orton has managed to add several new moves to his arsenal over the past few months to breath new life into his in ring character. Don't get me wrong, Cena can go with the best of them, but Orton is better.

CM Punk would be the 3rd best wrestler in the WWE. Again I know a lot of you have a major hard on for him, but he's not as good as Cena, who isn't as good as Orton. So get over it, and work that hard on out.

Dolph Ziggler why you say? Because he's fucking talented, give him time and the proper push and you soon see that he's an amazing in ring talent.

Cody Rhodes has all the in ring tools needed to continue his rise to the top. He's got a great move set, and can work a match with just about anyone.

Triple H he's not active, but lets be serious Triple H is a fucking ring master. Unless its typical bullshit Triple H power play when it comes to his match with Punk we should see a quality match between these two stars at NOC.

Daniel Bryan I know many people have a super hard on for , but hes fucking boring. They keep saying how he knows a ton of submissions and different moves, but all we ever see is that LeBell Lock. That is if he isn't getting his ass handed to him like he has the past few weeks.

The Miz and Sheamus both great on the mic, both decent in the ring, great wrestler? meeeeh, great talkers Fuck yes. They both have enough talent on the mic, to make up what they lacks in ring.

John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Sin Cara spot monkey garbage pale trash can wrestlers. All four of them.

If it didn't mention them its because they don't matter, yeah I'm talking about you Drew McIntyre.
 
Everything you say after the bolded part is irrelevant. Having a lot of moves does not mean you're a good wrestler you munt, ANYBODY can do a bunch of moves. If you sit for one day in training I'm sure you could learn how to do 7 or 8 moves perfectly, but see how long it takes to learn how to take those moves and sell them properly. Bumping and selling are by far the most difficult qualities to master in wrestling and no one does that better than Cena.

This effort to differentiate entertainer from wrestler is a fucking joke. Wrestling is entertainment. If you're watching wrestling for flippies and athletic competition, you're kind of a simp. Wrestling is about storytelling and captivating an audience. If it were about doing a shitload of different moves, Daniel Bryan wouldn't make his entrance to the complete silence every week.



Not the case at all, but I'd take being forced into a garbage can over the life of drunken spousal abuse you're destined for.

Daniel Bryan doesn't come out to "complete silence" every week, he gets really big pops you fucking moron. Yes more moves make you a better a wrestler than I'm a simp in your book whatever the fuck that means. I'm a WRESTLING FAN. I watch for MATCHES not FUCKING SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT WHICH YOU ARE A FAN OF. YOU ARE NOT A WRESTLING FAN. Have YOU sat through 20-60 minute puro matches? have you ever watched an independent scene match? I dare you motherfucking WWE Mark to do just that. FUCK YOU, "entertainment" fan. I'm a pro wrestling fan, I watch for matches, sure I enjoy a good promo but I don't panties in a bunch about it. It makes me sick you people here know jack-shit about pro wrestling when all you ever watch is WWE and TNA, I watch WWE, TNA, ROH, Dragon Gate USA, CHikara and AAA, I have over 120 favorite wrestlers. Your opinion is BULLSHIT because you haven't seen anything outside of WWE.
 

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