What's so great about John Morrison?

[Trill Co$by]

Ok, I can't take it anymore... I have to know. Why the hell do people praise John Morrison? The guy is without a doubt the biggest spot monkey to ever grace the ring... ok second biggest because Ebassan is always number one, but then again he's cool, so again Morrison's the biggest.

Seriously though, I get that the guy does all of these high risk spots and everything, and he has the best natural physique in the entire WWE, but the guy is NOT WWE or World title material. At best, he's an IC title competitor who gets title shots but never wins. And for people to compare him to Shawn Micheals is a slap in the face to the Showstopper. John Morrison hasn't done anything close to what Shawn Micheals has accomplished... except hold the tag and ic titles...

Unlike Shawn Micheals, John Morrison has absolutely NO mic skills and his ring work has a lot left to be desired. Anyway, maybe the guy's just not my cup of tea, but until I can find one thing that warrants him good enough to be a world champion he'll always be a jobber to the stars.

 

[JM Punk]

Here is my opinion (and I'm sure I am going to get killed for it, but whatever)

I do think he is overrated, and the best term I've heard to describe John Morrison is 'glorified gymnast'. Needs to change his finisher.....Starship Pain might look cool because he flips and does a spin, but it just doesnt look like a devastating finishing move. I also think he is arguably the worst guy in the WWE on the mic, which is saying something. WWE has been smart lately to extremely limit his time on the mic.

That said, I think he has done a tremendous job getting over with the fans in spite of his horrible mic skills. Maybe it's just because the WWE Universe likes to pop for a couple flips and acrobatic moves (hell, its the same fans who go nuts for Cena, Santino, and Hornswoggle, so go figure)....but its working. I think he has done enough to warrant his upper mid-card and borderline main event spot. I think its pretty clear WWE thinks highly of him, but after him using his title shot on RAW as opposed to the Royal Rumble PPV, its fair to ask if they trust him as a headliner yet?

I gotta think with how he looked against Sheamus and his brief feud with Miz earlier this year, that Morrison is the favorite for MITB and 'next in line' for the world title.

Bottom line is......I'm simply not a fan. Sorry.

 

[The_Reptile_]

Frankly, a lot of them love Morrison for the same reasons they loved Jeff Hardy(seriously, look at all the similarities, it's uncanny). the big difference here, however, is that Morrison isn't stoned out of his mind 24/7, so WWE feels a lot more comfortable pushing him, especially in the PG era.

 

[MisterRob]

Sure there's room for improvement when it comes to John Morrison, but there's no way that the cons outweigh the pros. No way. Yes, he's not the greatest on mic, but there's ways around that, really. Chris Benoit wasn't good on the mic, either. Jeff Hardy is horrible on the mic.. was in the WWE when he was champion, still is in TNA. But besides that negative, which can always be worked on and improved?

Morrison is a phenomenal wrestler and has exciting matches. He can have great matches of any kind, and is definitely in the upper tier of the entire roster when it comes to entertaining in the ring the past several years. He certainly is better then the Miz whose champion now. Morrison's also getting over with the crowd and definitely has a presence about him that draws people in to watching him. Not only that but he has a GREAT look, and that's definitely an asset when it comes to your champion and one of the top stars of the company when you're selling the product.

There's some downside to Morrison, but the upsides FAR outweigh them, and the WWE definitely realizes that. I don't see how anyone can't see that.

 

[californiachef84]

John Morrison is one of the very FEW young guys who actually has any real talent. Who cares if Morrison has any mic skills or not? The problem is that the WWE has now cultivated this nonsense that "stars" have to look, talk, and act a certain way. RVD was never good on the mic... not everyone needs to be like the Rock to be a main eventer.

In a day an age when the WWE pushes guys who can somewhat talk on the mic, but have virtually NO talent in the ring (see Miz) I see Morrison as being a breath of fresh air.

 

[fenfool]

I think his mic skills as a heel are ok, he just can't pull off promos as a face. He can work, and he can also do the aerial spots of a cruiserweight. He has a good look, and gets a great pop from the fans. I don't see him as a true world champion contender either, but then again I never got Shawn Micheals either.

 

[wagnermaniaco]

I am not a fan of Morrison. I think he just overrated. I did not enjoy any of his spots in the Royal Rumble and Raw's Rumble. I think they over exaggerate with the way he is book. I am not a MIZ fan, but I found myself cheering for miz in the falls count anywhere match. Just my opinion.

 

[dizzle1119]

I like Morrison, but I do have an issue with him. The guy has incredible athletic ability and a good look, but the Starship Pain finisher is terrible. The guy should be using the flash kick or Moonlight Drive. Starship Pain is too easily botched and doesn't really look all that effective even when it's pulled off perfectly (which doesn't happen often).

Then there's the issue with his mic skills. The guy, in my opinion, is a natural cocky heel who just doesn't "get it" when they ask him to cut babyface promos. He's too robotic/sarcastic for somehthing like that. Morrison, in my opinion would do well if he had a female manager/valet who could do some talking when need be.

Morrison has a way to go, but I really think he deserves to be pushed. I'm not saying he should carry the title for a year and a half or anything, but he should get a shot for it once in a while. I actually thought he was gonna further along by now, but his mic skills & lack of a decent finisher are holding him back somewhat in the eyes of grown up fans...

 

[JGlass]

Why do people complain about guys who make their pay checks with breath taking spots? If the spots are jaw dropping, which they are, there's really no need to complain.

Furthermore, though he does make his name with great spots, he's pretty good at straight wrestling to. When he's not performing breathtaking spots he has a pretty good repertoire in the ring and makes every match he's in interesting.

Additionally Shawn Michaels, while good on the mic, will always be remembered for his wrestling, not his promo skills, and the same will be said for JoMo when all is said and done (though he'll never be the same level of talented that HBK was).

Right now it's hard to say JoMo is a jobber to the stars when he's nearly beating guys like Miz and is competing with guys like John Cena, CM Punk, and Randy Orton in a high profile match at Elimination Chamber. He'll be a world champion one day, he'll never be the face of the company or anything like that, but he'll have a championship run.

 

[Heartachetonight926]

Any time a young talent start's to get the recognition he earns, people start calling him "Overrated", which in my opinion is one the most overused phrases in the History of Forever!!!!

It also seems like anybody who is a phenomenal athlete who can pull off Jaw-dropping maneuvers, people call them "Spot-monkeys". I am getting sick of it, I really am.

If million's of people love the guy, but you don't, then YOU are the one that doesn't get it.

End of story.



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

 

[CelticCorey]

I see him as more than just a spot monkey. The moves this guy does is amazing. His athletic ability is a gift and can carry a match. He has shown me over the past month or two he belongs in the main event. I felt he should've been one of the up and comers pushed but no doubt he solidified himself to be main event material in my eyes once TCL hit.

I agree he is a better talker as a heel; but this is the WWE's fault for scripting promos. Like Stone Cold said, promos should come from the heart. All of his promos came from the heart. If John Morrison could make up his own stuff, maybe he would be better on the mic. You never know. But he has that look and is definitely over with the crowd, especially considering IMO it's tougher to get a pop from a RAW crowd than a Smackdown crowd IMO. It just seems that way to me.

There is no doubt in my mind he will get a title run. I think he can more than handle the main event. I doubt Morrison has THE WORST mic skills in the WWE. Even then Morrison's mic skills aren't putrid. They just aren't that good. Besides, I like the wrestlers who provide the fast paced, high flying moves. Morrison is that type of guy.

 

[greg_74]

I like John Morrison because he continues to impress me and keep me entertained in the ring every match. Even with some of my other favorites I can predict how the match will go or the moves he will do but with Morrison he brings a sense of unpredictability to the ring. He is great on the mic? NO... The mic skills do pose problems cause as a face he isn't that good at all and as a heel he's better but not as good as the Miz or CM Punk or guys like that. But there have been a number of other guys that weren't great on the mic yet still had success at a high level.

I don't understand this whole spot monkey thing because its not like just just does cool moves off the top rop and nothing else. He works a good match and can wrestle quite well. Now he's not a great true wrestler like Kurt Angle or Daniel Bryan but he doesn't have to be. I do agree that he should come up with a new finisher because of the high risk of missing Starship Pain, but that isn't a big deal, he can adapt as he progresses.

Maybe we overrate him, but think about it, would you rather watch Cena or hell even Jerry Lawler wrestle the Miz for the WWE Title or would you rather watch Morrison?

 

[jontabs]

Well, in my opinion, Morrison needs to work on the mic skills. That's the one thing that's keeps him from being "legit" in my book.

To those who say "Who cares about his mic skills, he's great in the ring!" Name me one former WWE main eventer WHO LASTED MORE THAN 6 MONTHS who didn't have mic skills. People will point to Benoit and Jeff Hardy as examples of main eventers with no mic skills. Well what happened when the won the title? The went nowhere FAST.

No matter how good in the ring, I can't see any wrestler get far without any semblance of mic skills.

This goes back to one of my threads about gimmicks being lost in the WWE today. Morrison comes out to music attire and swagger that points to his "psychedelic rocker Jim Morrison" gimmick. But then, he wrestles and acts like the new "prince of parkour" angle they're taking him with. Settle on one thing, does he focus on being the "prince of parkour" or "the psychedelic rockstar" ? I think this is a good start for Morrison to start with his mic skills, as it will actually give him an identity to work with.

Morrison can still improve and become a great star. However at this point he's not there yet. The mic skills are a big thing, which is why younger talent with better mic skills like Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz and Wade Barret are getting the bigger pushes.

 

[Green Bay Wisconsin]

I do kind like watching Morrison, he is exciting but he is definately not a "Phenomenal Wrestler" as someone above said. My one main gripe with the man is he takes way to long to set up his spots.

Morrison - "Hang on you stand here, let me just go over to the rope, are you still standing there...no, no, no over there a bit more, alright here I come...Ka - Pow"

Opponent - "Hey you just kicked me with your thigh"

Morrison - " Yeah but I did a flippy thing"

 

[worldchamp101]

I personally am a fan of John Morrison. I don't care if his mic skills are lacking. He is able to keep me entertained with his performances in his matches. I would definitely choose to watch him him wrestle rather than the likes of John Cena or Jerry Lawler. Their performances in the ring makes me just walk away from the television set.

 

[snowjorden]

I'm not on the John Morrison bandwaggon either. I'll agree on a few things about him ..he has NO mic skills and he is a spot monkey. OP Note: Ebessan is cool. John Morrison is like a 2011 version of Rob Van Dam who was a spot monkey in ECW ..but RVD too was cool. So again, Morrison is the biggest.

What is sad to me is he had the chance to work in a program with a great worker like CM Punk and even in PPV matches they didn't come up with anything special. All that is because of John Morrison I think, and seems so since Punk has produced before and after those matches. He's even elevated himself past Morrison. But enough Punk love.

@californiachef84 - That's because do have to look, talk, and act a certain way. The Rock & Steve Austin were more then just moves. They were more then just talk. They had the complete package. And the Attitude Era rocked. We all agree. Morrison doesn't have the complete package.

My little brother is 13 and loves John Morrison. He rarely watches wrestling, but when he does it's a John Morrison match. So who knows ..maybe I'm wrong. I still think he should be Johnny Nitro. Eric Bischoffs nephew ..even with Bischoff in TNA.

 

[Kosugi19]

You guys are crazy. Every match he is in is great. Just because he has high risk moves doesnt make him a glorified gymnast. Who cares if he is not good on the Mic Benoit,Batista,Sid,Swagger are horrible on the mic and have been Champions.

The guy is very talented and in my opinion should be a Champion very soon. He is 20 times better in the ring than Miz but yet Miz gets the belt because he can talk.

Be remebered for what you do in the ring not for what you say in it.

 

[terrylee]

I agree completely with Jackie and JM Punk.

John Morrison's athleticism is undoubted, and I give him props for the great condition his body is in. That being said, both the aforementioned "glorified gymnast" and "spot monkey" titles are 100% spot on (and arguably the only titles he deserves).

Of course Morrison's going to get a great reaction when he does some great "parkour" move (on a tangent, I've got o say that I'm a bit tired of the commentators constantly saying "there's where Morrison's parkour training has come in handy!" each time he does something), but aside from his look, his huge spots (which, as Green Bay Wisconsin rightly pointed out, take forever to set up) and his constantly botched Starship Pains (He missed both Cena & Sheamus entirely last night), that's all he's got.

I also agree that the comparisons to HBK are ridiculous. Apart from the athleticism, what else is there...?

 

[MisterRob]

Well, in my opinion, Morrison needs to work on the mic skills. That's the one thing that's keeps him from being "legit" in my book.

To those who say "Who cares about his mic skills, he's great in the ring!" Name me one former WWE main eventer WHO LASTED MORE THAN 6 MONTHS who didn't have mic skills. People will point to Benoit and Jeff Hardy as examples of main eventers with no mic skills. Well what happened when the won the title? The went nowhere FAST.

Bob Backlund
Andre the Giant - He's a legend, but his mic skills were not good at all.
Ultimate Warrior - he had NO mic skills whatsoever.
Yokozuna - Didn't have any mic skills. He had someone else speak for him.
Jeff Hardy - He was a main eventer for more then six months and he had (and still does) horrible mic skills.
Kane - Had Paul Bearer talking for him for the longest time.
Chris Benoit
Goldberg
Batista - I personally don't agree with this one, but some people continually claim that he had no mic skills.


As I said before, mic skills certainly help a great deal, but you don't have to have them. There's ways around them by booking a champion certain ways, or getting around it by other means (such as a manager/valet). And really, Morrison certainly isn't ATROCIOUS on the mic. Definitely isn't as bad as some of the above mentioned names.

And then if you look at other promotions such as WCW you have Lex Luger, Ron Simmons, and probably a spew of others who weren't exactly good on the mic (or were even horrible), and were still main eventers at one time.
Lex Luger was HORRIBLE on the mic and yet he was a World champion on multiple occassions and a main eventer consistently. He had a GREAT look, though, much like John Morrison.

 

[cbhitman1]

Morrison grew on me.....wrestling has become so stale other than guys like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan that one day it dawned on me, who put on the best match and actually entertained me....answer was John Morrison everytime....it annoys me because I wish he went back to his tweener persona that he had with Miz where he insulted wrestlers but the fans still loved him...that's where he had mic skills and it was actually him and not the Miz who I found hilarious in those Dirt Sheets segments....ditto on the RVD comparison...RVD consistently put on the best matches for years because of not only his moveset but his ability to sell the moves...Morrison could work a bit on the selling but the things he does in the ring are so impressive I'm beginning to worry he might start making the other wrestlers look bad(like R Truth last night) and it could hold him back in addition to the face mic skills.

 

[Megadeth]

For the most part I agree with the OP. Morrison does nothing for the most part except for his random spots. I am not necessarily against "Spot Monkeys", I have always enjoyed guys like RVD, Sabu, the Motor city Machine Guns, but the difference between their spots and John's are their spots actually seem like they hurt. Most of Morrison's are done in such a way they so obviously dont connect, especially Star-ship pain. Just in the Raw Rumble Monday night, they set up the spot where John tried it on Cena and whoever it was he had in the STF (I forgot who it was right this second) but either way Morrison did Star-ship pain and clearly missed and Cole or Josh Matthews one tried to cover for it by saying something to the extent of "I think Morrison's elbow hit Cena".
Another thing that bugs me about "JoMo" (besides when people call him ""JoMo") is his whole gimmick right now is the Parkour crap, which WWE acts like is on the cutting edge of culture, when it's popularity really peaked like 5 years ago. I mean really, who cares about parkour anymore. Yet it will be mentioned at least a dozen times when John Morrison is in the ring.
So anyways, I have never cared for Morrison and see him going the route of Shelton Benjamin, and after years of frustration of him never making it to that next level, Morrison will be future endeavored.

 

[terrylee]

Bob Backlund
Andre the Giant - He's a legend, but his mic skills were not good at all.
Ultimate Warrior - he had NO mic skills whatsoever.
Yokozuna - Didn't have any mic skills. He had someone else speak for him.
Jeff Hardy - He was a main eventer for more then six months and he had (and still does) horrible mic skills.
Kane - Had Paul Bearer talking for him for the longest time.
Chris Benoit
Goldberg
Batista - I personally don't agree with this one, but some people continually claim that he had no mic skills.

And really, Morrison certainly isn't ATROCIOUS on the mic.

... Did you not hear him say "You're a BULLY, Sheamus!" ??

And I can't believe you're putting Morrison in the same category with the likes of Benoit and Goldberg. They may not be able to do some of the stunts and spots he does, but they're 100 times the wrestler he is. I don't like Jeff Hardy all that much, but he's still in a whole different zone than Morrison. Morrison's place is in the upper mid-card, and he should stay there. His flashy moves are like magic tricks - put aside how "cool" they look, and you'll notice that he's not a very good wrestler at all.

Normally you can tell where a wrestler is destined to be - a jobber, mid-carder, top-carder, whatever. Anyone that thinks Morrison will ever become an top-carder is fooling themselves. Check out the Indy scene if you want to see actual talent fusing athletic ability with wrestling talent. There's a difference between being a spot monkey and a good wrestler. Low-Ki/Kaval is an example of someone athletic who does amazing things but can also actually wrestle.

 

[772Attitude]

How can he be a jobber when he's beating stars like Sheamus. Im not a Morrison fan but he isn't the worst thing like your making him out to be. The only problem i have with him is his finisher. If he changed that up then he'll be pretty good. But you are right about him being to overrated tho. He's not even on the same planet as HBK and he's no WWE championship material. Like i said he's not the worst thing like your making him out to be but he is overrated

 

[Heartachetonight926]

... Did you not hear him say "You're a BULLY, Sheamus!" ??

And I can't believe you're putting Morrison in the same category with the likes of Benoit and Goldberg. They may not be able to do some of the stunts and spots he does, but they're 100 times the wrestler he is. I don't like Jeff Hardy all that much, but he's still in a whole different zone than Morrison. Morrison's place is in the upper mid-card, and he should stay there. His flashy moves are like magic tricks - put aside how "cool" they look, and you'll notice that he's not a very good wrestler at all.

Normally you can tell where a wrestler is destined to be - a jobber, mid-carder, top-carder, whatever. Anyone that thinks Morrison will ever become an top-carder is fooling themselves. Check out the Indy scene if you want to see actual talent fusing athletic ability with wrestling talent. There's a difference between being a spot monkey and a good wrestler. Low-Ki/Kaval is an example of someone athletic who does amazing things but can also actually wrestle.

Watch the match he had with Daniel bryan from a couple weeks ago on RAW, him and Daniel were Chain-wrestling. Neither man carried it, and it was a very good WRESTLING match.

This is another problem I have with some of you guy's, saying someone will "Never" be a Main-eventer, or will "Never" be on the Top of the card. Your only saying that because YOU personally don't enjoy their work. Well guess what? YOU don't speak for all wrestling fan's. If Morrison keep's getting the reaction's he's been getting out of the crowd as of late, and continues to impress people backstage with his athleticism, he WILL have success in the Top-card.

I'm sure the day that happens their will be another one of these ******ed "I don't like a Wrestler so that mean's he's OVERRATED" threads.

Ugh.....

 

[The Suplexer Perfecter]

Watch his match with Rey Mysterio in 2009 for the IC title and tell me that he is overrated.

He can put on great matches and isn't a spot monkey like a Jeff Hardy. He pulls of athletic moves that mean something, actually sells good and has psychology.

I think they over exaggerate with the way he is book

Undertaker has been buried alive, casket set on fire, "levitated" after being in a casket, and can disappear when it's dark. Oh but that's his character....