What swerve in WWE history didn't make sense to you?

[Whippersnapper88]

Five words that will make an WCW fan cringe...

David Arquette as WCW Champion

I mean, come on, I understand it was because Arquette was starring in "Ready to Rumble". But the fact that he pinned Eric Bischoff (at least he didn't beat a wrestler) in a Tag Team Match on Thunder, April 26th, 2000, to win the WCW Title just shows you how bad WCW became in it's final year. Thank God it was a quick reign, but the WCW Title lost all credibility that it had remaining (it changed hands 18 times in the year 2000 alone!)...

The funniest thing, I actually like the movie "Ready to Rumble", but to quote Chris Jericho, Arquette, please promise us "that you will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR" step into a ring again...

 

[THTRobtaylor]

For the uneducated, there is a famous movie review site called RedLetterMedia that has a hilarious guy who uses the name - Mr. Plinkett... Check out the youtubefor some great reviews of sci-fi films... his catchphrase is..."This makes Nooo Sense"... so here are my Mr. Plinket inspired moments...

The GobbledyGooker... Back at Survivor Series 1990, there was a massive "egg" that was going to hatch... was this some "Dinosaur" named wrestler like T-Rex?, or a "Kong" type man beast? no it was Hector Guerrero... in a Turkey Costume... the crowd nearly rioted undoing all the good work done by The Debut of The Undertaker earlier in the night and Roddy Piper nearly went into a diabetic coma commentating... Great worker, but Vince... This makes nooo sense...

The 1990 IC Title Tourney - As painfully relived on Vintage a week or 2 back... so we have the Warrior vacating to being the champion, a tournament is set up featuring some great names... Roddy Piper, Jimmy Snuka, One Man Gang, Tito Santana, Rick Martel, Brutus Beefcake, Mr. Perfect and Dino Bravo... we all know that Mr. Perfect got the duke and the title... but instead of having him beat Hot Rod in the final... or having a great end to the barely a year old Martel/Santana feud... they eliminate Piper and Martel in the first round via double DQ for dueling a chair and the Arrogance Spray... This makes nooo sense... Never mind... plan B... Brutus Beefcake, just 6 months earlier teaming with Hogan at Summerslam in the main event will be the guy to put Perfect into the top tier... erm... no... Beefacke and Dino Bravo are eliminated by double countout... leaving Perfect and Santana in a "semi final final"... The payoff was that Bobby Heenan came out and gifted Perfect the win, who then was announced as his manager... What a waste of an angle... If it had been Piper who Heenan screwed Perfect would have been immense!... It makes nooo sense...

The IC Title/Dean Douglas debacle - So Shawn gets beaten up by Marines... forfeits his THIRD IC title (not one for losing belts in the ring back then was Shawn) and Dean Douglas is awarded the title by forfiet... so WHY in gods name have him drop it in minutes to Razor Ramon? At least have him escape with the belt that night to drop it on RAW... or get a properly built up challenge... but no...Kliq rules made nooo sense....

The Shockmaster - Forget that the guy fell on his ass of a face... Fred Ottman deserves a break after all these years of ribbing... the guy to blame was not Tugboat for falling over, agreeing to the gimmick, not even Ole Anderson who did the voice or even the guy who had the idea of dressing a guy in a spray painted Stormtrooper mask, Marianne Faithful fur coat, jeans and cowboy boots... It was the person who said... I like it... let's do that... it made nooo sense...

The multiple GM's of 2010... So we had Vicki, Bret and a laptop... all within a month... It really made no sense to change it so many times in quick succession... so we have Vicki, to Bret to mystery person on computer who could be Vicki, or Bret or... this makes nooo sense....

 

[Ors]

I hated recent Morrison's broken ankle storyline. He was supposed to be wrestling with an ankle broken in three places. On the other hand, others injured superstars leave for months.
In addition to his Gimmick, he looks like a SuperMorrison to me.

 

[vampirek]

Some have brought up Austin and Angle in the Alliance. My probelm was the night after Survivor Series 2001. All summer Austin was heel and the WWF were the faces. Angle joined the Alliance in the fall but turned on them during Survivor Series to help the WWF win. The next night Angle and Vince were suddenly the heel with Austin being face again. There was no explanation at all. The night after Survivor Series 2001 made no sense at all and was very poorly booked.

I think the opposite, I think it was perfectly done to ensure a double turn. You had Vince backing Angle, who the crowd hated. Yes he saved the WWF, but the fans were still against him. The genius part of it all and not mentioned is that wasn't this Raw in Charlotte? It was the presence of Ric Flair that made the whole thing work. Without him then yes it would look odd but by having the hometown legend put the title back on Austin, instantly made Angle and Vince the heels to the fans.

Austin joining the Alliance also made sense. I've seen people mention Austin's relationship with WCW however look at Austin the character not the person. Austin was power hungry and hell bent on keeping his title. He saw the Alliance as being stronger and allowed him to be champion a lot more. It also allowed him to control the very company who turned against him thus showing Austin as the strong leader. Whereas if he stayed in on the WWF side, you had the likes of Taker, Kane already in that role.

 

[The Brain]

I think the opposite, I think it was perfectly done to ensure a double turn. You had Vince backing Angle, who the crowd hated. Yes he saved the WWF, but the fans were still against him. The genius part of it all and not mentioned is that wasn't this Raw in Charlotte? It was the presence of Ric Flair that made the whole thing work. Without him then yes it would look odd but by having the hometown legend put the title back on Austin, instantly made Angle and Vince the heels to the fans.

The return of Ric Flair definitely saved the show. I guess I could see the reasoning for Vince and Angle being heel, but I still don't see why 24 hours after trying to destroy the WWF Austin was suddenly a face again. The obvious reason is the fans simply wanted to cheer Austin, but it made no sense from a storyline point of view.

 

[JuviJuiceIsLoose]

Some have brought up Austin and Angle in the Alliance. My probelm was the night after Survivor Series 2001. All summer Austin was heel and the WWF were the faces. Angle joined the Alliance in the fall but turned on them during Survivor Series to help the WWF win. The next night Angle and Vince were suddenly the heel with Austin being face again. There was no explanation at all. The night after Survivor Series 2001 made no sense at all and was very poorly booked.

Not to mention the Survivor Series match itself. The big WWF vs Alliance Winner Takes All Match features Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, and Shane McMahon on the Alliance Team. 3 guys who weren't even WCW or ECW guys!

1 guy who wasn't even a wrestler!

 

[Karaoke Superstar]

Hornswoggle winning the Cruiserweight championship. Nobody saw that coming because nobody thought that WWE could be that stupid. It took a once great title with lots of history behind it and turned it into a joke, being won by pies in the face etc.

 

[The Calgary Kid]

Undertaker returning as a biker after being an evil, possibly dead guy who crucified people made absolutely no sense. It totally destroyed all of the mystique of his character that he had built for the past ten years. Similarly, his heel turn in 2001 was awful. He comes out to make the obvious save, preventing JR from being humiliated, gives an aggressive promo about how he's had to kiss Vince's ass for the past 11 years, then says that by not wanting to kiss Vince's ass, JR thinks that he's better than him and forces him to do it. Absolutely horrible writing that still makes me cringe to this day.

 

[JJ15776]

A lot of people bring up Austin and Angle joining the alliance, and anything involving the Invasion really, but the dumbest swerve for me was immediately before the alliance. The night after Wrestlemania 17, when Triple H joined Austin and McMahon. Triple H was stale as a heel, and the fans basically turned him face on their own. The WWE seemed to notice, and made him look like a face, only for him to turn back heel by the end of the night. It made no sense. Of course he ended up getting hurt and the whole Two Man Power Trip thing never got resolved, but it was stupid. That was the time for Triple H to go full on face and fued with Austin and McMahon.

 

[boybrushedred]

i dont remember the whole Alliance team and everything, but i just wanted to clear one thing up. Austin was in WCW from 1991=1995, sure he wasnt a big name and wwf/e made him and his character. but he was in wcw.

a storyline that didnt make sense to me is this current nexus/john cena storyline. I mean it starts out with wade barrett saying he wants Cena to join, Cena says no. Then a week or 2 later, it looks like cena is going to join, so he comes to the ring and ask wade if the offer is still on the table, Barrett replies no and says he doesnt want Cena anymore. Only from Wade weeks later to willing put Nexus on the line in order to have Cena join. And now that Cena is part of Nexus who cares? i mean its not like everytime Wade says jump Cena has to say how high, i never understand this, u have to unwilling join a group you dont want to be in it. but who says u have to obey them? (i know i havent seen this angle play out and it just started, so who knows how it will play out. but if cena does anything then continue to hit nexus with chairs ill be confused)

 

[Tougie]

Easy for me besides the Invasion angle, which I was a fan of, would have to be when Matt turn on Jeff back in 01. Completely pointless, it was built up nice at Survivor Series but they only had 2-3 matches and the angle was pretty much dropped. Waste of time and a waste of money, without a doubt they lost some money now that Hardy Boyz shirts and other merch stopped being made.

 

[MisterMondayNight]

a storyline that didnt make sense to me is this current nexus/john cena storyline. I mean it starts out with wade barrett saying he wants Cena to join, Cena says no. Then a week or 2 later, it looks like cena is going to join, so he comes to the ring and ask wade if the offer is still on the table, Barrett replies no and says he doesnt want Cena anymore. Only from Wade weeks later to willing put Nexus on the line in order to have Cena join. And now that Cena is part of Nexus who cares? i mean its not like everytime Wade says jump Cena has to say how high, i never understand this, u have to unwilling join a group you dont want to be in it. but who says u have to obey them? (i know i havent seen this angle play out and it just started, so who knows how it will play out. but if cena does anything then continue to hit nexus with chairs ill be confused)

How can you be confused with an angle that hasn't panned out yet?

Cena took a risk to get the Nexus disbanded and off his back. He was willing to put the stipulation of joining "in the contract" because it shows how confident he was and what not.The risk didn't pay off. Wait until the angle pays off to say if it was confusing or not. It's like saying a food has an odd taste based only on smelling it; it's not a good judgment till the action happens.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

Undertaker returning as a biker after being an evil, possibly dead guy who crucified people made absolutely no sense. It totally destroyed all of the mystique of his character that he had built for the past ten years. Similarly, his heel turn in 2001 was awful. He comes out to make the obvious save, preventing JR from being humiliated, gives an aggressive promo about how he's had to kiss Vince's ass for the past 11 years, then says that by not wanting to kiss Vince's ass, JR thinks that he's better than him and forces him to do it. Absolutely horrible writing that still makes me cringe to this day.

I think a lot of the Biker stuff was to do with the "reality" era... After the Buyout, the biz became less Kayfabed than ever and the Deadman gimmick was a little out of place... Mark Callaway is an avid biker and wanted to see if he really could get the gimmick over and thats ok... I actually liked that he used "Rollin'" as a theme and the riding the bike into the ring was the only time that schtick worked...

WWE never explained the change but at least we were spared some hokey "Looking For Cactus Jack" style story where Taker was "reincarnated" as a biker...

 

[kenny_sledge]

what about when lightning struck the stage, vince got hurt, called hhh paul and everything, and then dropped the whole thing with no mention of anything at all. ******ed.

 

[dman1373]

A lot of people bring up Austin and Angle joining the alliance, and anything involving the Invasion really, but the dumbest swerve for me was immediately before the alliance. The night after Wrestlemania 17, when Triple H joined Austin and McMahon. Triple H was stale as a heel, and the fans basically turned him face on their own. The WWE seemed to notice, and made him look like a face, only for him to turn back heel by the end of the night. It made no sense. Of course he ended up getting hurt and the whole Two Man Power Trip thing never got resolved, but it was stupid. That was the time for Triple H to go full on face and fued with Austin and McMahon.

What made less sense was triple h running over austin, and having a personal fued with him leading up to a 3 stages of hell match, and than a month later joining forces with him. Like one month had passed.

 

[boybrushedred]

How can you be confused with an angle that hasn't panned out yet?

Cena took a risk to get the Nexus disbanded and off his back. He was willing to put the stipulation of joining "in the contract" because it shows how confident he was and what not.The risk didn't pay off. Wait until the angle pays off to say if it was confusing or not. It's like saying a food has an odd taste based only on smelling it; it's not a good judgment till the action happens.

im not confused with cena but rather wade going back and forth with him wanting cena in the group. but also regardless of the stipulation of the match, in no where in cena contract will it say he must be a part of nexus, and it want say anything about being a loyal part of nexus. We just watched 6 months of nexus costing cena everything, and now because of one match Cena is suppose to back Nexus and be a member.

 

[RVD KAMALA 440]

I thought HHH turning on DX to join McMahon was stupid. I also never understood Austin joining the Alliance. I mean being sympathetic to ECW made sense but walkin around in a wCw shirt and leading WCW guys was always weird to me.

I remember X-Pac saying this on the next wrestlemania after it happened that the higher ups did that to elevate HHH & Chyna. And I can't remember which page I saw this but Mike Adamle being GM was because that Vince wanted 2 pee the fans off....AGAIN! He knew that the fans couldn't stand him & thought he was terrible as an announcer.

Easy for me besides the Invasion angle, which I was a fan of, would have to be when Matt turn on Jeff back in 01. Completely pointless, it was built up nice at Survivor Series but they only had 2-3 matches and the angle was pretty much dropped. Waste of time and a waste of money, without a doubt they lost some money now that Hardy Boyz shirts and other merch stopped being made.

I know, that was so stupid. Plus I wanted Matt 2 face RVD cause Jeff already faced him. The brothers Hardy coulda had good matches vs. each other.

Five words that will make an WCW fan cringe...

David Arquette as WCW Champion

I mean, come on, I understand it was because Arquette was starring in "Ready to Rumble". But the fact that he pinned Eric Bischoff (at least he didn't beat a wrestler) in a Tag Team Match on Thunder, April 26th, 2000, to win the WCW Title just shows you how bad WCW became in it's final year. Thank God it was a quick reign, but the WCW Title lost all credibility that it had remaining (it changed hands 18 times in the year 2000 alone!)...

And there's a youtube video where Russo justified that junk, wrestling is all about controversy. WCW was in survival mode, they couldn't afford 2 do nonsense like that in survival mode they 2 do everything perfect just 2 avoid going outta business. But there are people out there who love being incompetent. I remember Shadowe from wrestle talk had a great plan that year for WCW 2 do things in 2000. When they started over from scratch in april 2000, put the belt on Scott Steiner, then have him destroy everybody up until Starcade. And he drops the belt to either Goldberg or Booker T. It coulda worked if it was built up right. Maybe WCW wouldn't have lost as much as $85million that year.

 

[Calderownz]

The first two that came to mind were Austin joining the Alliance and McMahon as the leader of the Ministry Of Darkness.

Another one that I just never understood was Triple H joining the Ministry Of Darkness. It broke up DX essentially and had a guy on the way up joining a group that was somewhat on the way down.

 

[LSN80]

Teddy Long turning on the Undertaker.

Im sure most remember Breaking Point last year, where Punk defended the championship against Undertaker in a "submissions match." Undertaker submitted Punk in the Hell's Gate, and appeared to have won the champioship. Soon after Teddy Long appeared, citing an old rule Vickie Guerrero had instituted over a year ago, banning the Hells Gate. He restarted the match, and Punk locked in the Anaconda Vice. The referee immediately called for the bell, even though Taker never tapped.

I understand that they wanted to keep the belt on Punk a little bit longer, and didn't want to make Undertaker look weak in the process, so they had to go with a screwy finish. But in a submission's match? It defied logic that Taker returned at Summerslam, attacked Punk, and immediately became the number one contender. Then, after Long makes him #1 Contender, he turns on him? And what move did he think he was going to use in a submissions match?

Undertaker had used the submission move COUNTLESS times between the time it was banned, and the match at Breaking Point. He used it, albeit unsuccessfully, in his match against Michaels at the WM before! There had never been any mention whatsoever of the move being illegal. Not by the announcers, the referees, or by Teddy Long. And suddenly, Teddy "remembers" the move is banned?

I know the object was to create controversy and since Teddy was in storyline "probation", he had to do something. I just think there were far more logical ways for creative to produce a screwy finish in order to assist Teddy in getting off probation, keeping Punk strong, and not making Taker look weak. It was the wrong match, with the wrong personnel, with the wrong finish. And it made no sense whatsoever to me.

 

[Wolf Pac]

I dont know about one in history, I'll have to try think up one cause honestly most of the ones named here I like, like Austin's swerve to the Alliance, McMahon's swerve to the Ministry, Hornswoggle being revealed as McMahon's son although it should've been Kennedy even if it was obvious but then again Kennedy got himself suspended, so wouldn't have made sense but the one I would pick happened recently and that's Michael Tarver getting kicked out of Nexus. Cena only took out Tarver with a few moves & the steel steps I think, cant remember how the attack went, so I'm guessing but right after in a backstage segment with Nexus & Cena, Wade just announces right off the bat that he was thinking of kicking Tarver out anyway and that's it Tarver is all of a sudden out, no reason given whatsoever as to why, it was so out of the blue and the attack from Cena wasnt even devastating enough to take Tarver out. I mean maybe if Wade Barrett was out there, berated Tarver, gave a reason & announced he was kicked out then ordered Cena to take out Tarver, it would've made sense. The Darren Young & Bryan Danielson kickout made more sense than that, hell David Arquette winning the WCW Title made more sense.

And I remember a match on Raw in 03 where it was Booker T vs. Jeff Hardy, Booker T won the match but right after the match Jeff Hardy attacked Booker T. Both guys were faces and when I saw the attack, I thought Jeff was a heel but it turns out he wasnt yet he made a heel move though, WTF was up with that.

Also the logic behind Paul Bearer's turn on Taker at HIAC made sense because Taker buried him in cement few years ago although it was never mentioned but the way the turn happened didnt make sense. My post on how the turn didnt make sense is in the Taker vs. Kane HIAC thread in the WWE PPV section, so go check it if you wanna see cause I cant be bothered to type it up again but according to me, it was the worst heel turn ever.

 

[TheStone42]

The whole Matt Hardy turning on Jeff Hardy angle. I liked the two Hardys at the time and really liked Jeff having the WWE Championship. I really hoped that Jeff would have a main event match, whether it was the final match or not, defending the WWE title against someone like Undertaker, Edge or even Christian who was slated to be the person who would turn on him. But no Matt turned on him. The two put on okay matches with their WrestleMania 25 match being the best. I never understood the reasoning behind Matt turning and at this point with both the Hardys gone I could honestly care less.