UWF: Mock Draft III

[Slyfox696]

Updated Slyfox's draft board:

1. Hulk Hogan (Picked by C.M)
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin (Picked by Brian)
3. The Rock (Picked by Mr. Sam)
4. Andre the Giant (Picked by SuperDerf)
5. Randy Savage (Picked by Brian)
6. Bret Hart (Picked by cabowers)
7. John Cena (Picked by C.M.)
8. Shawn Michaels (Picked by Whole Show)
9. Mick Foley (Picked by SuperDerf)
10. The Undertaker (Picked by cabowers)
11. Ric Flair (Picked by Brian)
12. Rey Mysterio (Picked by cabowers)
13. Bruno Sammartino (Picked by Brian)
14. Dusty Rhodes (Picked by Brian)
15. Eddie Gurrerro (Mr. Sam)
16. Jushin Liger (Picked by cabowers)
17. Sting (Picked by Mr. Sam)
18. Goldberg (Picked by cabowers)
19. Chris Jericho (Picked by C.M.)
20. Rowdy Roddy Piper (Picked by Brian)
21. Triple H (Mr. Sam)
22. Brock Lesnar (Picked by Whole Show)
23. AJ Styles (cabowers)
24. Chris Benoit (Picked by Whole Show)
25. Edge (Picked by Whole Show)
26. The Ultimate Warrior (Picked by SuperDerf)
27. Arn Anderson (Picked by Brian)
28. Barry Windham
29. Great Muta (Picked by cabowers)
30. Jake "The Snake" Roberts
31. Bruiser Brody
32. Kurt Angle (Picked by cabowers)
33. Ted DiBiase
34. Vader (Picked by Brian)
35. "Dynamite Kid" Tom Billington (Picked by Brian)
36. Terry Funk
37. Curt Henning (Mr. Perfect) (Picked by Brian)
38. Jeff Hardy (Picked by C.M.)
39. Batista (Picked by SuperDerf)
40. Ricky Steamboat (Picked by cabowers)
41. Stan Hansen
42. Ultimo Dragon
43. Harley Race
44. Jerry Lawler
45. Lex Luger
46. Vince McMahon (Picked by SuperDerf)
47. Kevin Nash (Picked by SuperDerf)
48. Booker T (Picked by SuperDerf)
49. Randy Orton (Picked by C.M.)
50. Raven
51. Rob Van Dam (Picked by Mr. Sam)
52. Samoa Joe (Picked by Mr. Sam)
53. Christian Cage (Whole Show)
54. Owen Hart (Picked by cabowers)
55. Brian Pillman
56. Scott Hall (Picked by SuperDerf)
57. Umaga (Picked by SuperDerf)
58. Kerry Von Erich (Picked by Brian)
59. Michael Hayes
60. CM Punk (Picked by Mr. Sam)
61. Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
62. Davey Boy Smith (Picked by Brian)
63. Diamond Dallas Page (Picked by Brian)
64. Lou Thesz
65. Scott Steiner (Picked by Mr. Sam)
66. The Big Show (Picked by SuperDerf)
67. Jeff Jarrett
68. Lashley (Picked by C.M.)
69. Matt Hardy (Picked by C.M.)
70. Bob Backlund
71. Tully Blanchard (Picked by Brian)
72. Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka
73. Sid Vicious (Picked by cabowers)
74. Magnum T.A.
75. Abyss (Picked by cabowers)
76. MVP (Picked by C.M.)
77. Pat Patterson
78. Billy Graham (Picked by Brian)
79. Verne Gagne
80. John Bradshaw Layfield (Picked by C.M.)
81. Junkyard Dog
82. Big Bossman
83. Bobby Eaton
84. Kane (Picked by SuperDerf)
85. Larry Zybsko
86. Mike Rotundo (IRS, Irwin R. Schyster)
87. Rhyno (Picked by Whole Show)
88. Rick Martel
89. Ron Simmons (Picked by C.M.)
90. Ricky Morton (Picked by Whole Show)
91. Jerry Lynn
92. Lance Storm (Picked by Whole Show)
93. Ken Shamrock
94. Konnan
95. Bryan Danielson (Picked by Whole Show)
96. Bam Bam Bigelow (Picked by Whole Show)
97. Dean Malenko
98. Rick Rude
99. X-Pac
100. Sabu
101. Chavo Gurrerro
102. William Regal
103. Marty Jannetty
104. The Great Khali (Picked by SuperDerf)
105. Pedro Morales
106. Finlay (C.M.)
107. Shelton Benjamin
108. One Man Gang
109. Mr. Kennedy (Picked by C.M.)
110. Chris Candido
111. John Morrison
112. Tito Santana
113. Rikishi
114. Jim Duggan
115. Butch Reed
116. Dan Spivey
117. Terry Gordy
118. Robert Gibson (Picked by Whole Show)
119. Big John Stud
120. Stan Lane
121. Haku/Meng
122. Greg “The Hammer” Valentine
123. D’Lo Brown
124. Earthquake
125. Taz (Picked by Whole Show)
126. Mike Awesome
127. Christopher Daniels (Picked by Whole Show)
128. Rick Steiner (Picked by Mr. Sam)
129. Chris Sabin (Picked by Mr. Sam)
130. Low Ki
131. Billy Gunn
132. Carlito (Picked by C.M.)
133. Shane Douglas
134. Tommy Dreamer
135. Nick Dinsmore (Eugene)
136. Juventud Guerrera
137. Al Snow
138. Scott Norton
139. Perry Saturn
140. Doink
141. Val Venis
142. Tyson Tomko
143. Steve Corino
144. Terry Taylor
145. Test
146. The Godfather
147. Gangrel
148. Stevie Ray
149. Tom Zenk
150. Alex Shelley (Picked by Mr. Sam)
151. Colt Cabana
152. Chris Harris (Picked by cabowers)
153. Paul London (Picked by C.M.)
154. Brian Kendrick (Picked by C.M.)
155. Homicide (Picked by Mr. Sam)
156. Hernandez (Picked by Mr. Sam)
157. Marcus Cor Von
158. Robert Roode (Picked by cabowers)
159. Austin Aries (Picked by Mr. Sam)
160. Jay Lethal
161. Nigel McGuinness (Picked by Whole Show)
162. The Miz
163. Balls Mahoney
164. James Storm (Picked by cabowers)
165. ‘Road Dog’ Jesse James
166. Kenny Dykstra
167. Teddy Hart
168. Smash
169. Super Crazy
170. Paul Burchill
171. Charlie Haas
172. Ron Killings
173. The Sandman
174. Santino Marella
175. Steven Richards
176. Brian Adams (Crush)
177. Joey Mercury
178. Ax
179. Delirious
180. Dan Severn
181. The Barbarian
182. Tugboat/Typhoon/Shockmaster
183. The Warlord
184. El Gigante/Giant Gonzalez
185. Hercules Hernandez
186. Animal (Picked by SuperDerf)
187. Lance Cade
188. Muhammed Ali
189. Trevor Murdoch
190. Cody Rhodes
191. Spike Dudley
192. Bubba Ray Dudley (Picked by SuperDerf)
193. Jim “The Anvil” Neidhart
194. Judas Mesias
195. Mr. T
196. Blackjack Lanza
197. Blackjack Mulligan
198. D-Von Dudley (Picked by SuperDerf)
199. Elix Skipper
200. Paul Roma
201. Jay Briscoe
202. Mark Briscoe
203. Kevin Federline
204. Amazing Red
205. Brian Knobbs
206. Jerry Saggs
207. Justin Credible
208. JTG
209. Shad
210. Adam ‘Pacman’ Jones



Some tag teams that can be made from the wrestlers above (in alphabetical order):

1. America’s Most Wanted – Chris Harris/James Storm
2. APA – Ron Simmons/John Bradshaw Layfield
3. Brainbusters – Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard
4. Briscoe Brothers – Mark/Jay Briscoe
5. Can-Am Connection – Rick Martel/Tom Zenk
6. Colossal Connection – Andre/Haku
7. Cryme Tyme – Shad/JTG
8. Demolition – Ax/Smash
9. Doom – Ron Simmons/Butch Reed
10. Dudley Boys – Bubba Ray/D-Von
11. E&C – Edge/Christian
12. Fabulous Freebirds – Michael Hayes/Terry Gordy
13. Hardy Boyz – Matt/Jeff Hardy
14. Hart Foundation – Bret Hart/Jim Neidhart
15. Hooligans – Brian Kendrick/Paul London
16. Impact Players – Justin Credible/Lance Storm
17. Latin American Xchange – Homicide/Hernandez
18. Mega Powers – Randy Savage/Hulk Hogan
19. Midnight Express – Bobby Eaton/Stan Lane
20. MNM – Mercury/Morrison
21. Money Incorporated – Ted DiBisase/Rotundo
22. Motor City Machine Guns – Chris Sabin/Alex Shelly
23. New Age Outlaws – Jesse James/Billy Gun
24. Power and Glory – Roma/Hercules
25. Powers of Pain – Barbarian/Warlord
26. Redneck Wrecking Crew – Trevor Murdoch/Lance Cade
27. Road Warriors – Animal/Hawk
28. Rock N’ Roll Express – Ricky Morton/Robert Gibson
29. Rock N’ Sock Connection – Rock/Foley
30. Second City Saints – CM Punk/Colt Cabana
31. Steiner Brothers – Rick/Scott Steiner
32. Strike Force – Rick Martel/Tito Santana
33. Styles & Daniels – Christopher Daniels/AJ Styles
34. Team Pacman – Pacman Jones/Ron Killings
35. The Blackjacks – Blackjack Mulligan/Blackjack Lanza
36. The British Bulldogs – Davey Boy Smith/Tom Billington
37. The Eliminators – John Kronus/Perry Saturn
38. The Nasty Boys – Brian Knobbs/Jerry Saggs
39. The Rockers – Marty Jannetty/Shawn Michaels
40. The Twin Towers – Bossman/One Man Gang (Akeem)
41. Windham and Rhodes
42. World’s Greatest Tag Team – Shelton Benjamin/Charlie Haas
43. XXX – Chris Daniels/Elix Skipper/Low Ki



I am just going by Mr. Sam's roster on the first page. So, if it's not updated there, it will no be updated here most likely.

 

[Slyfox696]

Workers who are still left in this draft (for easier reference):

28. Barry Windham
30. Jake "The Snake" Roberts
31. Bruiser Brody
33. Ted DiBiase
36. Terry Funk
41. Stan Hansen
42. Ultimo Dragon
43. Harley Race
44. Jerry Lawler
45. Lex Luger
50. Raven
55. Brian Pillman
59. Michael Hayes
61. Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
64. Lou Thesz
67. Jeff Jarrett
70. Bob Backlund
72. Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka
74. Magnum T.A.
77. Pat Patterson
79. Verne Gagne
81. Junkyard Dog
82. Big Bossman
83. Bobby Eaton
85. Larry Zybsko
86. Mike Rotundo (IRS, Irwin R. Schyster)
88. Rick Martel
91. Jerry Lynn
93. Ken Shamrock
94. Konnan
97. Dean Malenko
98. Rick Rude
99. X-Pac
100. Sabu
101. Chavo Gurrerro
102. William Regal
103. Marty Jannetty
105. Pedro Morales
107. Shelton Benjamin
108. One Man Gang
110. Chris Candido
111. John Morrison
112. Tito Santana
113. Rikishi
114. Jim Duggan
115. Butch Reed
116. Dan Spivey
117. Terry Gordy
119. Big John Stud
120. Stan Lane
121. Haku/Meng
122. Greg “The Hammer” Valentine
123. D’Lo Brown
124. Earthquake
126. Mike Awesome
130. Low Ki
131. Billy Gunn
133. Shane Douglas
134. Tommy Dreamer
135. Nick Dinsmore (Eugene)
136. Juventud Guerrera
137. Al Snow
138. Scott Norton
139. Perry Saturn
140. Doink
141. Val Venis
142. Tyson Tomko
143. Steve Corino
144. Terry Taylor
145. Test
146. The Godfather
147. Gangrel
148. Stevie Ray
149. Tom Zenk
151. Colt Cabana
157. Marcus Cor Von
160. Jay Lethal
162. The Miz
163. Balls Mahoney
165. ‘Road Dog’ Jesse James
166. Kenny Dykstra
167. Teddy Hart
168. Smash
169. Super Crazy
170. Paul Burchill
171. Charlie Haas
172. Ron Killings
173. The Sandman
174. Santino Marella
175. Steven Richards
176. Brian Adams (Crush)
177. Joey Mercury
178. Ax
179. Delirious
180. Dan Severn
181. The Barbarian
182. Tugboat/Typhoon/Shockmaster
183. The Warlord
184. El Gigante/Giant Gonzalez
185. Hercules Hernandez
186. Animal
187. Lance Cade
188. Muhammed Ali
189. Trevor Murdoch
190. Cody Rhodes
191. Spike Dudley
193. Jim “The Anvil” Neidhart
194. Judas Mesias
195. Mr. T
196. Blackjack Lanza
197. Blackjack Mulligan
199. Elix Skipper
200. Paul Roma
201. Jay Briscoe
202. Mark Briscoe
203. Kevin Federline
204. Amazing Red
205. Brian Knobbs
206. Jerry Saggs
207. Justin Credible
208. JTG
209. Shad
210. Adam ‘Pacman’ Jones

 

[Slyfox696]

sly, im interested to hear what you think about my roster so far???

I doubt it.

you havent mentioned me much since i picked lesnar.

Well, first for the good.

You picked up by Edge and Christian, which gives you a lot of roster flexibility. Those two can work either as great singles wrestlers, in the upper midcard, or you can put them together as a tag team, and cover requirements there. Both are smark favorites, great on the mic, solid in the ring, and EXCEL at gimmick matches.

Now, for the bad.

Honestly, I would have to say that you have the weakest draft so far, challenged only by cabowers. You picked up two guys in Danielson and Daniels that you could have picked up 3 rounds later, while leaving great workers like Ricky Steamboat, Jushin Liger, Great Muta, Barry Windham, Owen Hart, CM Punk, Bob Backlund etc, all guys who could have filled you "technical wrestling" direction you seem to want to go in. And Steamboat, Liger, and Windham are three times the professional wrestlers Danielson or Daniels is. I mean, it's not even close. You don't have that super main-event draw, nor do I see a "dream match" that you can work towards to make people continue voting for you.


The best thing about your draft is that it can still be saved with some good choices. I also would think about maybe going towards picking up some good hardcore wrestlers/brawlers, as you have three guys already on your roster who are highly respected for work in various gimmick matches (HBK, Christian, Edge) plus a fourth in Daniels who has done well in Ultimate X and has a 5 star triple threat match under his belt. Maybe pick up some guys like Brody and Hansen and Abdullah, coupled alongside some high flyers and technical wrestlers. With so few major draws left, you might need to have the style of your promotion sell the product rather than the wrestlers themselves.

Basically, your roster can be saved if you try and promote what original ECW fans like to think their promotion was about. Hardcore gimmick wrestling, with lucha libre and technical wrestling sprinkled throughout.


But, just a suggestion though.

 

[Derf]

Shit... I got 2 minutes and I'm waiting for Cabowers... I might be back online before thenight is over, but I'm gonna PM my two choices to Mr Sam just in case.

 

[C.M.]

Slyfox what do you think about my roster ?



Cabowers has 16 hours left I think

 

[Slyfox696]

Slyfox what do you think about my roster ?



Cabowers has 16 hours left I think

I just did a small review on yours not too long ago. Take a few more picks and then ask.

 

[C.M.]

k no problem


Who do you think has the best roster so far?

 

[Slyfox696]

I like C.M.'s and Brian's roster best so far. I'd probably give Brian the slight edge right now, just because I REALLY love that Austin vs. Savage potential, and I think British Bulldogs are better than the Hardys. But, it's VERY close.

Here's how I rank them thus far.

1. Brian
2. C.M.
3. SuperDerf
4. Mr. Sam
5. cabowers
6. Whole Show

 

[cabowers]

ok since superdef has went offline for 24 hours do i get 2 picks now and sort his out later?

 

[C.M.]

Its up to Mr. Sam and he's offline now but I would say yes but Its up to Mr. Sam

 

[cabowers]

Coach is in the ring

"Ladies and gentlemen at this time i would liek to welcome to the ring the number 2 seed in the Golden Run, Kurt Angle!"

Angle walks to the ring dressed in red,white and blue ring attire

"Whats this about Coach. I have a very important match coming up and i need to prepare, so unless your here to tell me i have a bye i dont care.
"Actually Kurt, I'm here to tell you who you will be facing in the first round of the tournament."
"And who might that be."
"The num..."
"I dont care who it is, I'll tell you exactly what i told Bret Hart. My name is Kurt Angel, I am an olympic gold medalist, I am an American Hero, i am the best in the business period!!!"
"Kurt you may think your the best in the business but i have someone who would disagree, ladies and gentlemen the 7th pick for FPPW, Ricky "the dragon" steamboat!!!"

 

[cabowers]

K well if i need to change it i will.

As both Kurt and Ricky stand staring each other down, Bret Hart appears on the stage and starts making his way to the ring.

"Well, well, well. Look what we have here. Two losers and an idiot. Coach why do you even bother drafting anyone for the tournament. Just award me the belt right here, right now and this will all be over with."
"After what you did to Mick Foley, i dont think so. I was going to wait till later on tonight to introduce the final participant in the golden run but seeing as your here i may as well do it now. The 8th pick is the 'king of harts' Owen Hart."

Suddenly Owen sprints out to the ring as all four men begin to brawl, security eventually separates them as coach stands in the middle.

"You's 4 want to go at it, then fair enough. The finale of the draft will take place next week and afterwards as our main event it will be Kurt Angle & Owen Hart vs Bret Hart and Ricky Steamboat"

 

[cabowers]

Sly now that i have 8 picks under my belt can you give me your thoughts on my draft and why you feel i'm one of the weakest so far

 

[Slyfox696]

Sly now that i have 8 picks under my belt can you give me your thoughts on my draft and why you feel i'm one of the weakest so far

I like your last two picks, not only as individuals but also within the context of your roster. What you're missing now are some heavy hitters. You have the mat wrestlers, and with Owen and Steamboat, you add some aerial to go with Styles and Mysterio, but your lacking the fisticuffs, the brawlers, the heavyweights. Guys who will add variety to your card, while also showing what makes guys like Bret and Steamboat so special.

I will say that your last two picks really improved your roster in my eyes, even if Owen Hart is criminally overrated by smarks.


And, a Bret Hart vs. Steamboat match HAS to be in the works somewhere. I wouldn't give it away first round, but rather tease if for the second or third rounds, while building up to your obvious Bret vs. Angle showdown.

 

[BooCocky]

Sly, now that some people are asking for opinions on there roster. What are your opinions on my picks so far?

 

[Derf]

I'm back now, I sent Sam a message with my two picks, one of them is Scott Hall. The other is Booker T. I'll be on tomorrow.

 

[C.M.]

SuperDerf are those your picks?



Mr. Sam you have 18 Hours

 

[THe WHoLe FuCKiN SHoW]

my next pick: Chris Harris of AMW with the other half on reserve.

 

[BooCocky]

my next pick: Chris Harris of AMW with the other half on reserve.

According to Mr Sam's we can not reserve, So we are able to draft him if we wanted to be ignorant. Because if we were able to reserve i would not have drafted Davey SMith that early.

 

[C.M.]

TWFS,Its not your turn


Mr. Sam has about 14 hours

 

[Derf]

SuperDerf are those your picks?

Yeah those are my picks. I already sent Sam a mesage in case I wasn't back in time, but there was a computer where I was. I'm back now though, so all is well in the world.

 

[C.M.]

k its still Mr. Sam's turn.

I dont know why TWFS pick after you,I think TWFS thought it was his turn.

 

[THe WHoLe FuCKiN SHoW]

now for my response to slys comments earlier:

first lemme start by sayin that slys opinions are not only greatly respected but highly valued as well and whether i agree or not, i do take them into consideration because hes proven hes a very intelligent poster.

but i have to say, for the most part i disagree with sly on this draft so far. now to be honest i have to say i expected you not to like my roster. by no means did was i planning to recieve a sterling evaluation because we seem to have differing opinions on what draws and what doesnt. i dont really think either of us is wrong, we just move in 2 different directions. you seem to be behind guys like hogan and cena, who draw the lights out and have tons of fans and hey i like both of them, not huge fans but i like them. with what hogans meant to the business and with how hard cena busts his ass for it, i could see how youd be behind them. however, as important as they may be, neither of them is the most skilled in their profession. see, i tend to lean towards guys who can put on impressive technical matches, hence my selections. (not to say cena and hogan havent had classics, theyve had plenty. but theres a big difference between a hogan/warrior classic and an hbk/benoit classic if you know what im sayin).

furthermore, to say ive had the worst draft so far made me laugh a little bit. actually alot. mostly cause im fairly certain that all the other 5 guys in this draft along with thousands of wz users would disagree with that. but then again, i didnt ask their opinion. i asked urs. ;-).

now as for christopher daniels and bryan danielson. i think you said i couldve gotten them 3 rounds later or something to that affect. well in the last draft, they were both gone before the 6th round i believe, and i got them in the 6th and 7th. imo, i consider that a steal. also, im pretty sure i remember sam saying i stole his next pick when i picked daniels. so im not sure if they woulda been around that long. however im almost positive that great muta, bob backlund and barry windham will all be around in 3 rounds. in fact, they'll all be around in 7,8 or 9 rounds. i could even see 2 out of those 3 guys not getting picked at all. so if i wanted them, i could wait a while. and your right, they all could more then fill the technical wrestler ideal that ive been going for, but the people here on wz, the ppl who will be voting for the top show, would all prefer daniels and danielson over them. and the voters are the ones who counts.

moving forward, i found it interesting looking at the names on my roster that you would say i have no draws. no draws? really? without mentioning hbk and benoit im pretty sure edge and christian are both in the top 5 of each of their companies and sell alot of tshirts. danielson is the best wrestler alive today and christopher daniels has as many hardcore fans as anyone out there. not to mention another versatile, flexible tag team in AMW and a guy who fans would kill to see comeback, in lesnar. the guy is making his comeback in my company. that would draw like crazy unless your not into the whole "one of the most talented monsters in wrestling history coming back" thing.

i do definitly agree that adding some high flyers/brawlers is a must tho. however i feel those spots are much easier to fill later on. just my opinion tho. everyone thinks differently.

i just have one more thing that i couldnt really understand. you said i should move in an ecw-type direction. i hardly believe i need gimmick matches to sell at all. every single wrestler ive drafted is capable of putting on incredible singles matches without any stipulations at all. i mean they could also put on 5 star gimmick matches, but i certainly dont think i need them.

like i said before, its the ppl on wz who are going to be voting here. the majority of them want to see highly talented wrestlers in wrestling matches. for example, and believe me ive never talked to him and dont know much about him, i think if i were to ask someone like Y2Jake to put our rosters in order from best to worst, im sure he'd hav me far from the bottom, because from what i can tell from his posts he seems to be more into the style that i am, which is good talented wrestlers. but then again, i have no idea and as said before its all about the difference of opinion. that doesnt mean anyones opinion is wrong, its just different. in my opinion, cm drafted cena and hogan and got great reviews from you but dont you realize how many ppl absolutely despise cena/hogan. none of those ppl would ever give cena or hogan a vote compared to hbk,edge and the ROH guys. the hogan/cena haters greatly outnumber the hogan/cena lovers on wz as unfortunate as that is its the truth. and sorry cm for kinda goin at your roster. imo you hav a great roster so dont think im tryin to bash it or anything.

lastly, i just wanna say that i continue to gain respect for slyfox cuz hes awfully blunt and very honest. i like that in ppl. i hope you wont mind if i keep asking your opinion. right now i think everyones rosters are exactly the same cuz we havent really started the writing process. its the writing and the creativity that will set shows apart. we're all gunna have our share of great wrestlers but when the fueds are made and the matches are written, then we"ll see whose got the best show. until then, im still under the way of thinking that everyones show is about the same.

damn, this post is silly long. sry for anyone whose gonna read all this crap. ill shorten things up in the future.

 

[THe WHoLe FuCKiN SHoW]

oo my bad. i forgot sam didnt go yet. in the last draft you could only reserve if they were a legitamite tag team like AMW and guys like HHH and HBK or other teams like that couldnt be reserved. maybe he changed it im not sure. my bad about draftin too early. woops.

 

[C.M.]

no problem
I also draft it too early yesterday but I notice quickly that it wasnt my turn and I edit it my post