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^^^ Couldn't have said it better myself, I love wrestling in general but TNA has a LONG WAY too go before they ever top the WWE, and IMO they have taken alot of steps back in recent month's. They aren't even using the X-guys properly anymore IMO, and their storyline's are very weak Steiner/Angle started the same way as Joe/Angle so I want someone to tell me how that is "groundbreaking" or "fresh", TNA IMO was a lot better when it first debut on FSN and even it's debut on Spike, now there show is all over the place and something needs to be done. As far as TNA having better wrestling I have NEVER believed that both are pretty even IMO but WWE has wrestlers that are actually entertainers which means they are good on the mic, TNA has Joe, Sting, Christian, Angle, Steiner, Jerrett(if he ever comes back) and Daniels, all except two made their name in wrestling else where, lately TNA has been tring to imitate WWE and they are doing a piss poor job at it. All those so called Innovative matches they create(and I use the word losely) are useless and sad IMO, TNA was better when they took the ROH approach and focused on the wrestling which IMO made them a contender against WWE but right now watching their poor quility show week in and week out is starting to make me rethink it's starting to make me think TNA is not ready for primetime.
 
You know, it used to be that I chose TNA over WWE because of a clearcut domination in the wrestling department. That has been shrinking lately. Not that WWE is getting better...because I still think it sucks donkey d**k. It's just that TNA is de-evolving in that aspect, for my taste. As far as the wrestling aspect, that was the one thing that TNA had locked down as far as I'm concerned. However, with the disjointed booking of the Impact episodes and some of the ******ed ideas used recently (Christy Hemme....wrestling?!? Are you f**king kidding me?) it's gradually begun to trip and stumble where it once ran strong. After remaining optimistic for awhile, I'm starting to really think that Russo is like a cancer and that D'Amore needs to be brought back in, pronto. Since Russo has arrived the tag division has become the stuff of WWE legend, and the X-division isn't nearly a fraction as powerful as it once was. I find the Kevin Nash bits as funny as hell sometimes, but at what cost? At this point, the company name should be changed to Stop Action Wrestling. Because the action and the wrestling has slowed to a crawl for my taste. I hope Dixie heard the "Fire Russo" chants at the PPV and that she takes a cue from the fans in attendance.
 
Wow haven't some opinions changed slightly. TNA has been getting steadily worse as time goes on, and this definitely comes down to poor booking. The promos and other stuff TNA used to stay away from are creeping back in, and now, the two hours isn't that appealing for Impact. The WWE can probably coast now because they have Wrestlemania coming up and that always means a spike in interest. TNA can keep throwing out their ideas (or Russo's it would seem) but they really seem to be slipping. They are just trying too many things and it is not working. Back to the basics is going to be the formula that works for them, and that is not WWE basics, that is the basics that made them what they used to be. That means quality wrestling that shows how talented guys are, not making them look like wimps and making them cheat to win, and quality storylines. No one really cares about these soap opera things because we see enough of it on the WWE. If TNA wants to be perceived as being a totally different company, they need to stop acting like the WWE.

Sure, Russo can take them to the top or near there, but the only way he can do that is if he keeps bringing out the crap that fans love to see in the WWE. This is totally neglecting the thousands of faithful fans who remain hopeful that TNA will reach the top of the wrestling world and give the WWE a definite run for their money. The tables have turned on TNA. The WWE was the one sliding and looked a wreck and TNA was just remaining consistent and it was rising because of that, but now, TNA is sliding and the WWE, while still producing lots of the stuff that caused it to slide, is capitalising on Wrestlemania's hype to remain at the top and keep on trucking. I hate to see this happen to TNA but they should utilise the arsenal they have to take it back to where it was. Let's see the old-school stuff, not this crap that TNA has been showing lately.

It used to be about wrestling. Now it's about gimmicks and storylines and they aren't focusing on showing wrestling. There are a lot of improvements that TNA needs, and going back to the basics now that they have dug themselves into a hole is one of them. They need to stop trying to be 'out there' and just focus on trying to outdo the WWE with wrestling that appeals to fans hunger for pure wrestling. They have the wrestlers to take them back, but until the booking and writing team improve, they won't be able to assist TNA. Mind you, this is only the early days of TNA's minor slump, so hopefully things will improve.

By the way, I think most that voted a low rating for this thread were just people that lost an argument to Kasey or Showtyme or any other intellectual TNA fan, although I guess a TNA is just a poor man's WWE comment may not be torn apart like it used to.
 
Damn! Kasey, I never thought something like this would be coming from you but I 100% agree, TNA was something a little different then the average WWE fan was used to seeing now it has become WWE lite and I think they have dropped the ball time and time again, That horrible This Is TNA show, having "WWE" guys headline your PPV, disrespecting the guys that have made your company what it is AJ Style, Christopher Daniels(When will he get his World title reign?), and many more, also failing to sign top NON-WWE talent like Bryan Danielson, re-sign Roderick Strong, an so on, and last but most impartantly they stopped pushing what IMO was the top saleing point The X-Division which now seem two steps away from becoming WWE's CW Division(maybe that was a little over the top), All-in-All my point is TNA should be tring to do their OWN thing unstead they are tring to become the WWE.
 
I Think Wwe I9s The Better Show He Has Millions Of Fans Times More Money And Way Better Rating
 
I Think Wwe I9s The Better Show He Has Millions Of Fans Times More Money And Way Better Rating


It was a good show but it did shit at the box office. The main event was Angle/Lesnar. But they gave all the hype to the Vince/Hogan match. Similar to what there doing with the Battle Of The Billionaire's.

And what has this got to do with TNA vs. WWE?
 
That would be cool if TNA became more like the wwe. I like the wwe style. Tna is more like a stunt show rather than wrestling.
 
^Even if the TNA show has faltered a bit, the wrestling is more exciting and doesn't have the tendency to lull me (and the crowd) to sleep on occasion. Long gone are the days when WWF in-ring product was considered some of the most consistent in North America. The athleticism and fire is pretty much nonexistent in the WWE these days, amongst other things. It's a damn sad day when I say that I'm actually disappointed with Chris Benoit's in-ring ventures. Me. Disappointed with Benoit. I never would've imagined. The "entertainment" aspect of both shows is typically annoying to me most of the time...the nice thing about Impact by comparison to its WWE counterparts is that it only takes an hour to sift through. Unlike Smackdown, ECW, and Raw, where I'm fast-forwarding my DVR into submission each week.
 
Damn! Kasey, I never thought something like this would be coming from you but I 100% agree, TNA was something a little different then the average WWE fan was used to seeing now it has become WWE lite and I think they have dropped the ball time and time again, That horrible This Is TNA show, having "WWE" guys headline your PPV, disrespecting the guys that have made your company what it is AJ Style, Christopher Daniels(When will he get his World title reign?), and many more, also failing to sign top NON-WWE talent like Bryan Danielson, re-sign Roderick Strong, an so on, and last but most impartantly they stopped pushing what IMO was the top saleing point The X-Division which now seem two steps away from becoming WWE's CW Division(maybe that was a little over the top), All-in-All my point is TNA should be tring to do their OWN thing unstead they are tring to become the WWE.
I've just been let down by some (not all) of the creative moves perpetrated since Russo's arrival. On the whole, the PPVs still deliver many times more for me than the WWE outings do, so on that front, I'm cool.

However, you said it. The indy talent was where they were really doing smart purchasing, and that mentality has gone by the wayside in favor of big-time ex-WWE contracts. Strong, Danielson, and Nigel McGuinness are a few missed opportunities. I also like a kid out of NJPW California named Puma who was a solid performer in a short span a year or so ago who just never stuck around.

I don't mind having Cage as the champion because he has become a definite heat magnet that finally means Jarrett doesn't have to be conjoined to the damn belt because no one else can draw anything near his level of heat. Christian is also gold on the mic. However, having Abyss job to Sting AGAIN is just stupid. I'm a Sting mark from way back, but the guy is old, has a receding hairline, and is nowhere near the physical specimen necessary anymore to match Abyss in a believable fashion (unlike his days fighting Vader, which he did damn well).

I just hope within the coming months they learn from their mistakes and keep Hemme out of the ring, feed Kurt to Joe at BFG (preferably for the belt), and stop bleeding a couple of these floudering feuds to death. They also need to re-focus and re-strengthen their X and tag divisions with more length to the TV matches so they can properly build the feuds, and more people dedicated to the tag division. It pisses me off to no end to see someone like Sabin slow a tad and get a mite bit sloppy in the ring, when he was once a shining beacon of picture-perfect execution and raw speed and agility.

The one positive bit of news is that Muta came to meet with TNA about talent exchange between AJPW and TNA. This could be cool because underutilized talent could be sent abroad while stateside TNA gets some new blood to spice up the roster a bit.
 
Why do you want to give the belt to joe?! that would be one of the most stupid moves ever in wrestling. Joe is over, but he's not that over, he aint all that good of a smack talker and angle should be kept out of the title picture for a while. Joe is one of the guys that is better when hes chasing the title, if you just give him the title then thats it theres nothing left to do, as they've already used up angle/joe and after 1 maybe 2 matches they wont be able to revisit that feud for a while because it will have been done to death. Like you said Cage is gold on the mic, and he should remain champion until the end of the year, get even more heat on the guy, that would enable him to go into a feud as a brutal viscous bastard with pretty much any guy and the fans would know hes th heel. I actualy think hes a better heel than jarrett. I agree now that they should stop signing ex-WWE talent unless its on the cheap, because there are more deserving guys already in TNA and guys with potential in the wrestling circuits. Your right about the tag titles/X-divison situation and AJ Styles also needs a massive push and soon. But in trms of what i refer to watch TNA is still in my opinion the more exciting product.
 
^Joe is a rare creature where gimmickry doesn't even need to be a method of operation for him to be successful. As much as I like Cage as a wrestler, he ain't $hit in the ring compared to Joe, and hasn't had nearly as many quality matches in his entire career to count as Joe has had just wrestling in TNA. On the mic and personality wise Reso obviously has the edge, but as a workhorse champion Joe was flawless as the masterhead of the X-division and was good enough to elevate the division WITHOUT deep character development, which would be impossible for Christian to do as he needs solid competition to stay over in a match (hence him and Monty stinking up the ring a year or so back).

If they pushed Joe as a true heel and spent the time getting him over in that respect, he'd be the top heel in the business, bar none. Joe is over. More than Christian. More than Jarrett. Or Sting. Abyss. etc. None of the other talent gets chants of "Christian's Gonna Kill You!" on a regular basis. Even pushed with pretty sparse mic time and just in-ring work, Joe is a god in TNA. Do I think Christian should be completely phased out of the title picture? No. I'd honestly like to see a three-way dance for the belt at BFG with Angle, Christian, and Joe in one match for the belt. If they felt like it, TNA could turn Angle into a heat magnet as his luster from his sympathy pops died out and he's now pretty much a regular on the roster. Right now, though, with one belt to fight over Jeff has handed Christian the ball. I just know that for a large payoff at their biggest event of the year, the top guy should beat the other top guy for the belt. It just so happens that there are about three top guys in TNA right now, that's all.
 
Well you make some fair points, but i would have to say that yes although joe is better in the ring i think that with cage's charisma, and persona that he is the most over in tna atm. The problem with cage is throughout his wwe career he rarely had to wrestle for longer than 10 min squash matches, hes not used to having 20+ min main event singles matches. Since he came to tna tho he had really improved in the ring, and seems to be improving match by match, and its not like the guy is that aged, he could keep going for anuva 5/6 years no problem. I dont know if they could push joe as their top heel for the reasons uve already kinda given ,that is that he ring work is so good that the majority of fans would cheer for him rather than the face, and i dont think he has the charisma or persona to become a top heel. I kinda like, and think that a triple threat match at bfg is the way they are going with the feuds atm. I disagree with having cage lose cage should retain to gather more heat the same way jarrett did. What i would love to see would be Angle vs Joe have ther final feud over the x division title, with joe comming out on top. Then have a champions vs champion match against cage in which he wins the NWA title too. Then have jarrett and Cage work together challanging Joe to his dominance, but have angle turn heel by screwing joe somehow or something along those lines. I think this would give TNA to chance to bring in an extra title, to extend their timeslot, and give a chance to some of the x-division guys to form tag teams to add to the tag team mix atm.
 
i gotta admit, i stopped watching wrestling shortly after the wwe/wcw invasion thing back in 2001. when i did start watching again about 2 years ago, i was watching wwe and tna. i gotta say that tna was almost like a ghetto revival of the old wcw days. they had the cool x division and the heavyweights. the one thing that honestly got me into waching tna was when i seen petey williams do his "canadian destroyer". that was the sweetest move i seen since wcw and their cruiserweights. but lately with the craziness and the fact that tna has to fit a whole lot into an hour show, it seems rushed and the storylines either go too short or too long. the kurt angle/samoa joe thing is good but they need more fresh faces. the whole thing with seretonin is whack and seems like another ploy to bring back a crappier version or raven's flock. i honestly only record tna impact! and fast forward through most of it. i like samoa joe, kurt angle, christian, sting. but some of the gimmicks should be given up like with jay lethel always having to do his randy savage impersonations. it just seems that the show has been going down hill for the last 2 months. i don' torder the ppv's but WZ doesn't seem to pleased with them either. wwe to me has always been better with there writing and classic characters, storylines and feuds. tna should sample a few things that makes wwe so successful and get new talent or do better with what they got. form other cliques like christian's crew or like an n.w.o. type. they just need to step it up a notch. get r.v.d. or others. maybe hogan now taht he isn't with wwe anymore. it's just some food for thought. and that's all i gotta say about that!
 
Tna is great for the sport as a whole. remember back in the old days... sitting in the school yard with your friends dreaming of matches between old Wwf guys and wcw guys... like Hogan v. Flair - or like Ultimate warrior v. sting. Now i hear my lil cousins talking about how cool it would be to see Aj v. Hbk and Umaga v. Samoan Joe... the whole "rivalry" is awesome. me, my self is a wwe guy - but who says there can't be room for any one else - tna, wsx or whoever.
 
Well you make some fair points, but i would have to say that yes although joe is better in the ring i think that with cage's charisma, and persona that he is the most over in tna atm. The problem with cage is throughout his wwe career he rarely had to wrestle for longer than 10 min squash matches, hes not used to having 20+ min main event singles matches. Since he came to tna tho he had really improved in the ring, and seems to be improving match by match, and its not like the guy is that aged, he could keep going for anuva 5/6 years no problem. I dont know if they could push joe as their top heel for the reasons uve already kinda given ,that is that he ring work is so good that the majority of fans would cheer for him rather than the face, and i dont think he has the charisma or persona to become a top heel. I kinda like, and think that a triple threat match at bfg is the way they are going with the feuds atm. I disagree with having cage lose cage should retain to gather more heat the same way jarrett did. What i would love to see would be Angle vs Joe have ther final feud over the x division title, with joe comming out on top. Then have a champions vs champion match against cage in which he wins the NWA title too. Then have jarrett and Cage work together challanging Joe to his dominance, but have angle turn heel by screwing joe somehow or something along those lines. I think this would give TNA to chance to bring in an extra title, to extend their timeslot, and give a chance to some of the x-division guys to form tag teams to add to the tag team mix atm.
I'm definitely in agreeance with you on Cage's improvement. Having actual main-event caliber people to run with like Joe/Angle/Sting/Jarrett has really helped his feel for building a solid match within the last year. Too bad McMahon's dumb ass didn't see that years ago. He could've turned Christian into the next Ric Flair with half the effort that the WWE marketing machine had to sink into tricking people into thinking John Cena didn't actually suck. Joe's program with Daniels and Styles from 2005 was a prime example in terms of what kind of heel he could be. Something like the NWO was in terms of being the cool heel, so to speak. Either that or have Joe sell his soul to the devil himself and align with Jarrett (pretty much the equivalent of getting leprosy in wrestling in terms of the audience liking a wrestler). The sky is the limit at this point.
 
i am not a fan of tna, but i have heard alot about it from my friends who watch it exclusively. i think this will be the wwe/tna competition is the classic match you see between wrestling programs, action vs. drama. in the past, wwe made it big when they went nationwide by beating out the smaller, local orginizations with there big draw of soap-like storylines. i honestly dont see why us guys like wrestling with soap-like storylines, but alot of us do. since wwe made it big, it has beat out all the competition. wcw tried to compete w/just action, but eventually turned to re-run storylines. after they started using drama, they started beating raw w/nitro. this lasted until fans got tired of the old wwe superstars trying to compete in wcw w/the same angle they had before. sound familiar? tna's big draws include kurt angle, christian, and sting, all past their glory days from other orginizations. wrestling fans like to have feuds, and wwe execs know that. thats why after wwe was the sole program, they split into brands so we could watch raw vs smackdown, and now raw vs smackdown vs ecw. it is meant to let fans chose sides on the war and not just pick your favorite soldiers. but when superstars visit other shows, the seperation needed for competition dissapears. wwe it self cannot recreate the feuds that fans love, like wwe vs wcw, or wwe vs tna, but if these feuds take place, somebody has to lose. tna won't beat out wwe, and it would be a shame to have the young, undeveloped talent in tna disappear because they chose the wrong side. tna should try to stay small for a while until they are strong enough to compete or they get a stronger fan base.
 
I've just been let down by some (not all) of the creative moves perpetrated since Russo's arrival. On the whole, the PPVs still deliver many times more for me than the WWE outings do, so on that front, I'm cool.

I diffenently know what you mean, as i've been letdown a lot also by TNA lately I thought they wanted to give wrestling fans something different but lately it seems like they continue to go for the "Quick Money" and give us a cheap quick fit like Super Gimmicky "NEW" matches that completely dull down their PPV's IMO, WWE talent pushed down our throats I love Christian and Angle as much as the next guy but do I want them headlining TNA PPV's battling for the top title? Hell No! IMO that's not good for TNA.

And About the whole expirence well like we've said time and time again that is suited toward your taste as I think the WWE's slower pace(at times) is better than TNA's quicker spotty style(matches seem too cluttered at times), so again it's just a matter of what someone would prefer.

However, you said it. The indy talent was where they were really doing smart purchasing, and that mentality has gone by the wayside in favor of big-time ex-WWE contracts. Strong, Danielson, and Nigel McGuinness are a few missed opportunities. I also like a kid out of NJPW California named Puma who was a solid performer in a short span a year or so ago who just never stuck around.

Damn! I didn't think many people knew about Puma, but then again maybe I should remember who i'm talking too(lol) I agree he is an incredible talent and exactly the type of guy TNA should be going after and NOT former WCW/WWE/and even top ECW guys, IMO they need to make their own stars a feat which they still have yet to master.

I don't mind having Cage as the champion because he has become a definite heat magnet that finally means Jarrett doesn't have to be conjoined to the damn belt because no one else can draw anything near his level of heat. Christian is also gold on the mic. However, having Abyss job to Sting AGAIN is just stupid. I'm a Sting mark from way back, but the guy is old, has a receding hairline, and is nowhere near the physical specimen necessary anymore to match Abyss in a believable fashion (unlike his days fighting Vader, which he did damn well).

You know I love Cage, always have and always will but having him feud with Rhyno and Angle (Shit we have already seen in the WWE) is BAD booking IMO, it's one thing to have him as champ it's another to force feed us the same shit WWE has already fed us, which is something TNA has a bad problem of doing and sometimes I think they push away more fans then they gain with their choppy booking style, but I personally love Cage as Champ just hope TNA continue's to have him defend against TNA talent, about Sting I didn't like him then and I starting to hate him now, TNA needs to get it through their heads he doesn't have "It" anymore so stop pushing him, I feel the same way about WWE with Undertaker, Ric Flair, Jim Duggan, ECT....I think you get the point.

I just hope within the coming months they learn from their mistakes and keep Hemme out of the ring, feed Kurt to Joe at BFG (preferably for the belt), and stop bleeding a couple of these floudering feuds to death. They also need to re-focus and re-strengthen their X and tag divisions with more length to the TV matches so they can properly build the feuds, and more people dedicated to the tag division. It pisses me off to no end to see someone like Sabin slow a tad and get a mite bit sloppy in the ring, when he was once a shining beacon of picture-perfect execution and raw speed and agility.

The one positive bit of news is that Muta came to meet with TNA about talent exchange between AJPW and TNA. This could be cool because underutilized talent could be sent abroad while stateside TNA gets some new blood to spice up the roster a bit.

Totally and wholeheartedly agree with this comment, I couldn't have said it better myself, although i'd add find better comentator's, backstage interviewers, get rid of oldtime talent Sting, Nash, Backland(who's bright idea was this???!!!),ECT....

And I hope they close that deal as i'd love to see some of AJPW's Brightest Stars in the states I think that would draw in a lot of "hardcore" fans and renew a little faith in their decision making overall.

Also I agree with you about Joe, I think he's more than ready to carry TNA and I hope his match/feud with Christian dosen't end as suddenly/weak as Joe/Angle, I think that feud has all the making of the next great feud in wrestling and could help carry TNA too a bigger and brighter spot.
 
FUCK THAT STUBID TNA. They dont even have a square ring. they get like 500 people per show, wwe gets 10 times that much. fuck tna



First off...

Batista/Cena/Lashley are champions in the WWE... World champions at that...

You know what has more charisma than Batista? One of my 5 inch turds that I take every morning....

You know what has better ring skills than Cena? Eugene....

You know the best champion on the WWE right now? Chris Benoit...

Then again... you are a Edge fan... a guy who hurt himself by doing his finishing move...

... case and point...
 
After watching Wrestlemania I just have to say WWE owns TNA and TNA will never be able to compete with shows like mania
 
I highly doubt that Wrestlemania did anything to widen the gap between the WWE and TNA because it shows TNA is just miles ahead of WWE in the PPV aspect. Wrestlemania was supposed to be the greatest PPV of the year, yet it was below par for even SmackDown PPV standards and had as much buildup as you would see from a TNA PPV. The WWE could have blown them out of the water with an amazing PPV that was focused on the entire crappy last few months, but instead we had pathetic 5 minute squash matches with wrestlers that make the poorest TNA wrestler look like Kurt freaking Angle. TNA is going to creep up on the WWE and they won't be 'owning' TNA for much longer at this rate, and Wrestlemania showed absolutely no reason why the WWE wasn't worsening. Wait till you see any TNA PPV before you make assumptions like that because the hype and dedication they put into their PPV's is something the WWE can never touch, and I don't see how you could possibly say that Wrestlemania cannot be touched by TNA because I think it shows how easy a task it is for TNA to beat the WWE in that area.
 
I agree, the work dedication and the ring skills are soo much better in tna. WWE has thier own wrestling technique actually. That's what the training company's are for, like OVW. Take mistico for example, if they sign him, which rey mysterio is pushing for big time, he would have to go to OVW to learn WWE style wrestling. Tna on the other hand has very exciting match's and they are growing at a faster rate then wwe. With the crappy wrestlemania they just put on it show's what kind of product they are willing to put out on the greatest ppv they have. They didn't even use Ric Flair and he is being mentioned for next years HOF because ratings for that are worse then a smackdown taping. And smackdown is recorded earlier and everyone knows what happends 4 days before it airs. Kinda sad imo. Vince show's what a dieing brand really looks like. So get a good glance while it's still here. And I have to edit this post to say I agree njmtitan that Chris Benoit is the best champ right now, and i'm saying that after hardyz were just crowned tag champs. Why? Cuz only reason is cuz jeff hardy came back. Matt would still be jobbing if not for jeff's return. And taker, though I do give him props. It just seems that he is something that is getting overkilled imo, unless he fueds with someone young and new to make a new star for the company, only way I can see it.
 
I disagree with you both, now once again i'll explain i'm a fan o9f both companies and just plain love wrestling, but TNA's PPV are so low in quilty and so filled with quote on quote "Breakthrough/Innovative" Gimmick matches (Yeah Right) that it just sickens me as a all around fan, WWE has it's problems but IMO TNA has ALOT more the pace for their matches border insane, say what you will about WWE's slower pace but at least their matches have some sort of flow unstead of a quick, rushed, and totally out of place shit match (which TNA does alot lately) and WM23 was pretty good IMO but considering the line-up I had very low expectations so take that for what it's worth.
 
Oh yea TNA will be shitting themselves after seeing the batlle of the billionaires, and Kane vs Khali. Boy that showed us what wrestling is all about...

Wrestlemania sucked, it was about a 6/10 overall, wrestlemania should be a 9/10 because it should be better than other WWE PPV's. It was about as good as an Average PPV at best, TNa's PPV's are BETTER than WWE. Sure there is one or two stupid gimmick matches, but at least they keep them short and sweet. WWE made us sit through 30 mins of painful to watch, talentless crap in the BOTB and i for one hated it. People who like these types f wrestling matches, are not Wrestling fans and shouldnt be on these forums as such.
 
^^^See I think the major thing you fail to realize is just because someone is not agreeing with your personal opinion does not mean they don't love wrestling as much(if not more then)you do, as noted on the thread I do have a vast knowledge of wrestling and I enjoy both shows but IMO and IMO only I consider WWE to be BETTER than TNA at this point, TNA's PPV's IMO are not even close to WWE's as they are WAY too gimmicky for me, and ending matches early with no build up is a great way to showcase wrestling also(sarcasim), and last who are you to say anyone isn't a TRUE wrestling fan you seem to be the one with an pigheaded view and don't seem to respect anyone's opinion but your own so many just maybe you are the one that truely shouldn't be on these forums because they are for having great back and forth debate's with people that don't share your views.
 
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