I don't know if the crowds are ruining wrestling every one of the little kids and teenage girls mark out for John Cena veryyyyyyy loudly.
This is a run on sentence whose clauses don't agree. Let's examine it in two parts. First of all, wrestling crowds are ruining wrestling. I, for one, think that the crowd is part of the show. I think the crowd should boo the heels and cheer the faces. I hate people who boo Cena because it's the cool thing to do. Please, tell me one thing Cena's character has done to get booed. Kayfabe is everyone's job.
Secondly, what is wrong with people marking out for John Cena? Honestly, he's the draw, the main attraction, and the star of the show. I think people should mark out even louder than they do for him.
I think, and you can tell me if I am wrong, that the people who boo Cena are booing Vince. They think the product is too kid friendly, and they spend $60 on tickets to express themselves. Actually, they spend $20, because the boos come from far away. I think the show reminds me of the 80's, without the good fans. In the 80's the shows were very similar, with the main eventers being basically the same, and the main events being tag matches with some combination of the same few guys every week. When you get a young audience used to the same guys winning, and you pull the trigger on some new guys winning at the right time, you create excitement. This new crowd is too young to understand how good it is for Cena to lose to John Morrison. In a couple of years, that will excite these kids. Once they're maxed out on Cena merchandise, it will be cool to buy a JoMo shirt. It's all about timing. If you are another internet kid who only knows the attitude era, which I assume you are, you're going to have to wait until the kids are the age you were when you started. I was in high school when attitude started, and I had already been a fan for years. The reason it was so unpredictable was that we had just gone through a decade of complete predictability. Nothing shocks today's audience, so he needs to lull the audience into a state of security with the main event. Then, and only then, can a push of the younger stars shatter that sense of security and give you the feeling that something crazy might happen. A weekly surprise becomes less surprising after 8 years.
I think Orton and Jericho as well as CM Punk get some good heat as well but heel heat is not the same as it used to be.
It's because people think they're cool for cheering the heels. Someone needs to tell them how cool they are for being at a wrestling show.
Anyway, you're right, those guys are doing tremendous heel work, and are getting heat. Jericho could heat from an ice cube. They don't get the heat that Vickie does though. Vickie gets that heat because she knows how to get to the common man. CM Punk doesn't. He thinks calling everyone a drunk is going to get under the common man's skin. The common man is either drunk or cursing drunks. Either way, it's not going to elicit boos. He needs to verbally abuse the face. That worked for him. Abusing the crowd is just an old trick. Vickie screwed over every face in the company. Thus, she gets booed out of the arena. Orton's creepiness endears him to people, and he gets cheered, instead of getting the heat he deserves.
I don't really want to bash the WWE here but I think the crowds and fans have figured out Vince's product fairly well so there is no reason to get that loud and boisterous.
Then why go? If you go to a show and plan to sit on your hands, watch at home. These men do amazing things, and there is a reason to get on your feet during every match. The reason the crowds aren't as loud is because we have seen everything already. Please, tell me what is left after the nWo, InVasion, buying WCW, necrophilia, kidnapping, murder, resurrection, marriage, divorce, heart attacks, live sex shows, stolen zamboni, and K-Fed. The crowds aren't as boisterous because they haven't seen anything new. The WWE is taking a lesson from Hollywood. If you can't think of anything new, then wait five or six years and redo the old shit.
You may be right that this era of wrestling has more talent than the attitude era but the attitude era was far more unpredictable and therefore was far more entertaining.
Because during the Attitude Era, you were taking a kids show and adding sex, drugs, and rock n roll. It was like letting Eminem remake School House Rock however he wanted. After a while, everything had been covered. After you make the boss piss himself on live TV, what are you left with? How can you top that?
I really don't think the latter part of my post is debatable at all.
Sure it is. Attitude was more entertaining for a multitude of reasons. Characters were better developed. Every character had a specific purpose. Now guys float in and out of relevance, and it is impossible for the midcard guys to get any long term momentum. Furthermore, the stories were constantly freshened. When Vince and Stone Cold were feuding, Vince would pull up some midcarders to fight Austin. If they held their own, HHH, The Rock, they could stay. If not, Big Boss Man, they were in Dog Kennel From Hell Matches. The problem is that the split brands keep the talent pool to small on each show to keep it fresh. It is easy to tell me that John Morrison should be in the Main Event. But, you can't fill out a good week to week card without his figuring in the mid card. Moving a guy up affects more than the main event, especially with this ridiculous brand split. There isn't enough talent to keep feuds fresh without rushing someone unprepared to the top. I would argue that the depth of talent is better now, but not by enough to fill out two shows without having major holes. I would argue that better utilized talent was the key to the Attitude Era, as opposed to the weekly, "scheduled" surprise.
