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Yes,because a leg drop and waving your finger in someones face is real wrestling isn't it.Hogan was never a great wrestler,just a great personality for his time.
TNA is in SERIOUS trouble
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I'm noticing a lot of negative TNA threads and how people are unhappy. READ MY LIPS: Give TNA some time. They are in a transition process. Some things my piss people off right now but that doesn't mean that you should go off the deep end. It reminds me off the current sitiuation in WWE and how everyone is jumping on them. GIVE IT A CHANCE! Stop complaining. There is no magic pill or remedy to make everyone happy. These things take time for the love of God! Change seems to scare people (I'm not a huge fan of it in some cases) but in TNA's case, this is an exciting and hopefully good change. A change that will take them to a new level. So before you have a heart attack, settle down and let things play out. (Same thing for the WWE) If you don't like, don't watch it. Simple as that. I'm sick and tired of all the bitching about wrestling in general. Especially right now with TNA. It's not WCW!.... at least not right now.
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In my opinion TNA didn't need Hogan, Bischoff, or even Hardy. Although Flair being there was kind of cool.
But seriously they don't need more star power, what they do need to do is get writers who actually make sense for at least one month.
And seriously the ROCK is the best you could think of. I say bring in Stone Cold. He would run that jiont like no one else. I would love to see him kick the shit out of that poser Shark Boy.
Definition of a sell out use being like Dwayne Johnson.
(I can't even call him the ROCK because he is a disgrace.)
But seriously they don't need more star power, what they do need to do is get writers who actually make sense for at least one month.And seriously the ROCK is the best you could think of. I say bring in Stone Cold. He would run that jiont like no one else. I would love to see him kick the shit out of that poser Shark Boy.
Definition of a sell out use being like Dwayne Johnson.
(I can't even call him the ROCK because he is a disgrace.)
hogan is the greatest
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yes it is like i said hogan made wrestling without him there would be no tna and there sure as hell would be wwe and vince mcmahon hogan is the greatest of all time it dont mater if he knew 4 moves or 400 but i guess thar just shows you how great he is a man with so called 4 or 5 moves became the greatest of time everything hogan touches in the wrestling biss. turns to gold and very quickley at that every company he has ever been with turned in to the number one company in the world
in hogan we trust
I can't agree with you more Wolvdog. I was scanning the results from the PPV last night and couldn't believe what I was reading. I don't watch TNA regularly, but my interest has been peaked lately. Hall, Waltman, Morley, Nasty Boys and even Flair don't belong anywhere near TNA, WWE, ROH - the sun set on them a long time ago.
I could tell TNA was in serious trouble after watching most of the Jan. 4th show.
I guess we all stay tuned, but I think Vince has nothing to worry about.
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Lol, i thought you meant purely because they've signed Ken Anderson. Don't get me wrong i was a huge Kennedy mark, but based on his track record of injuring himself and others and the state of his popularity whenhe left the 'E' i didn't think they'd do it. So they signed Jeff Hardy who could go to prison any time in the near future, and Ken 'don't let me wrestle anybody from a historic wrestling family whose name is Eddie, because they probably won't survive longer than a week afterward' Anderson. They're taking their established guys and making them look like bitches to WWE's long time jobbers (Morley) or doing drastic character changes and keeping people's interest by throwing Ric Flair in the mix, and while that's going on, Hogan, Bubba Love Sponge, nWO, Eric B and the Nasty Boyz Are all together again for like the millionth time. Hip hip hooray. I'm not going to fully agree with the OP, because it's early days still, but based on the little amount they've done so far, it doesn't bode well for them.
And now.....
Did you seriously say that the Rock couldn't make it in wrestling? That he HAD to go to Hollywood in order to be successful. Pure bullshit. He was a household name BECAUSE of his wrestling career, just like Austin and just like Hogan. People who've never sat down and watched wrestling, but know who these people are, BECAUSE they were so good their popularity transcended wrestling, and you don't think the Rock could make it in WWF? Lunacy.
And why the fuck would you want Hogan instead? To do the same thing he's done for the last 20 years i.e. push his friends and bury everyone else while reaffirming that HE is the centre of attention.
Sure there would. It would have been nothing like what we experienced but it would have still happened. Territories would have been different and maybe WWF wouldn't have become the only game in town, but i still think there'd have been a wrestling boom, even if it wasn't as succesful.
He didn't invent it dude, he was just THE guy to watch in the 80's and then Eric Bischoff made everyone think he was STILL worth watching in the late '90s.
I'd like to see a stupid ass monkey pull off a hurracanrana as a counter to a crucifix powerbomb off the top rope, i really, really would.
Acrobats jump around at the circus, not monkeys.
And it never ceases to amaze me how fool's who can barely read and write assume that they'll be respected for barely stringing a sentence together, especially when that sentence is full of crap.
Lol, just like the pied piper led the rats through the streets, dancing like marrionettes and swaying to their symphony of destruction. THAT's what trusting in Hogan will do for ya. This is a guy who claimed last week that he spoke to an active WWE wrestler who told him that the whole WWE locker room was cheering TNA on. How fuckin conceeded is that? To suggest that the company you're obviously on a crusade to take down, is full of guys who WANT you to take all their fans from them and put their company out of business, thereby cost ing them all their own jobs. Yeah, i really believe that the 'E' roster are going to support that aren't they? Guys like Taker and HBK who know just how much a twat Hoagn is, are really going to appluad his efforts with TNA aren't they?
And now.....
Did you seriously say that the Rock couldn't make it in wrestling? That he HAD to go to Hollywood in order to be successful. Pure bullshit. He was a household name BECAUSE of his wrestling career, just like Austin and just like Hogan. People who've never sat down and watched wrestling, but know who these people are, BECAUSE they were so good their popularity transcended wrestling, and you don't think the Rock could make it in WWF? Lunacy.
And why the fuck would you want Hogan instead? To do the same thing he's done for the last 20 years i.e. push his friends and bury everyone else while reaffirming that HE is the centre of attention.
Sure there would. It would have been nothing like what we experienced but it would have still happened. Territories would have been different and maybe WWF wouldn't have become the only game in town, but i still think there'd have been a wrestling boom, even if it wasn't as succesful.
He didn't invent it dude, he was just THE guy to watch in the 80's and then Eric Bischoff made everyone think he was STILL worth watching in the late '90s.
I'd like to see a stupid ass monkey pull off a hurracanrana as a counter to a crucifix powerbomb off the top rope, i really, really would.
Acrobats jump around at the circus, not monkeys.
And it never ceases to amaze me how fool's who can barely read and write assume that they'll be respected for barely stringing a sentence together, especially when that sentence is full of crap.
Lol, just like the pied piper led the rats through the streets, dancing like marrionettes and swaying to their symphony of destruction. THAT's what trusting in Hogan will do for ya. This is a guy who claimed last week that he spoke to an active WWE wrestler who told him that the whole WWE locker room was cheering TNA on. How fuckin conceeded is that? To suggest that the company you're obviously on a crusade to take down, is full of guys who WANT you to take all their fans from them and put their company out of business, thereby cost ing them all their own jobs. Yeah, i really believe that the 'E' roster are going to support that aren't they? Guys like Taker and HBK who know just how much a twat Hoagn is, are really going to appluad his efforts with TNA aren't they?
I don't think that TNA is in serious trouble, at least not yet.
They have star power, I think Hogan and Bischoff were huge additions, and if TNA was going to compete, they needed something like this to happen. That being said, Hall and Waltman are not only not big name draws anymore, but they're liabilities. Bringing them back was a dumb move. The Nasty Boyz have nothing to bring to the table, and they're going to go feud with another team that I felt has been worthless since they left WWE. The Nasty Boyz are certainly not a draw.
I like bringing in Hardy, Anderson and Flair however. Flair is less than 2-years removed from what was called the match of the year in WWE. He is a huge name and still a huge draw. Anderson is younger, and I personally do not think we have even come close to seeing his full potential. Hardy was a risk, but if his legal issues work out, and he does not face jail time, he is a draw. He was just peaking in WWE, and I think a Hardy and Styles match has a lot of potential to draw.
One thing I do disagree with though, is the thought that this company can't continue to surprise. I agree it will be hard to steal any WWE talent like WCW did, but it is not completely impossible. Yes, there's the 90 day no compete clause, and no matter what, no one is going to appear on both promotions in the same week. What TNA needs to do is sign someone big, but keep it confidential (which is hard with the world of twitter and the internet and what not), and then get them to the arena a la John Cena in Rumble 2008. No one expected that, that was shocking. If TNA could land (just saying for the sake of a name) RVD, or Goldberg, and managed to have Bischoff and the respected star keep it quiet, sneak them to the arena, and then bang, have them on the show, it would be amazing. And with anyone who leaves WWE, wait the 90 days, and do the same thing.
I agree that TNA is struggling to impress right now, but they are still drawing better than normal, let's see if they can finally start running with this.
They have star power, I think Hogan and Bischoff were huge additions, and if TNA was going to compete, they needed something like this to happen. That being said, Hall and Waltman are not only not big name draws anymore, but they're liabilities. Bringing them back was a dumb move. The Nasty Boyz have nothing to bring to the table, and they're going to go feud with another team that I felt has been worthless since they left WWE. The Nasty Boyz are certainly not a draw.
I like bringing in Hardy, Anderson and Flair however. Flair is less than 2-years removed from what was called the match of the year in WWE. He is a huge name and still a huge draw. Anderson is younger, and I personally do not think we have even come close to seeing his full potential. Hardy was a risk, but if his legal issues work out, and he does not face jail time, he is a draw. He was just peaking in WWE, and I think a Hardy and Styles match has a lot of potential to draw.
One thing I do disagree with though, is the thought that this company can't continue to surprise. I agree it will be hard to steal any WWE talent like WCW did, but it is not completely impossible. Yes, there's the 90 day no compete clause, and no matter what, no one is going to appear on both promotions in the same week. What TNA needs to do is sign someone big, but keep it confidential (which is hard with the world of twitter and the internet and what not), and then get them to the arena a la John Cena in Rumble 2008. No one expected that, that was shocking. If TNA could land (just saying for the sake of a name) RVD, or Goldberg, and managed to have Bischoff and the respected star keep it quiet, sneak them to the arena, and then bang, have them on the show, it would be amazing. And with anyone who leaves WWE, wait the 90 days, and do the same thing.
I agree that TNA is struggling to impress right now, but they are still drawing better than normal, let's see if they can finally start running with this.
I don't think they're in trouble when its only been three weeks of Hogan/Bischoff programming. This will probably last out the year, so I'm going to do my best to enjoy it and in all honesty I am enjoying TNA.
Getting rid of the 6 sided ring, while not a big issue overall, doesn't feel right as I can't picture TNA without it even though I have to. New and exciting is what TNA should be and if they can reduce the spot fests, do more story telling - which is what Hogan/Bishoff want to apparently do - then this can be done in a 6 sided ring.
See Hogan/Bischoff's argument is, if what the fans wants is so awesome, why arent they out in droves supporting the product. Having enough of a turn out to force TNA to go to bigger arenas more often or watching it enough to get a rating even in the 2.0's.
That hasn't happened, so the argument for firing all the "Hogan Hire's" and bringing back the 6 sided ring really have to fall on deaf ears. This, like I said, is ironic because I loved the 6 sided ring and watched and enjoyed TNA before half of the WWE roster got hired.
In all, good luck to TNA. I know they will do great.
Getting rid of the 6 sided ring, while not a big issue overall, doesn't feel right as I can't picture TNA without it even though I have to. New and exciting is what TNA should be and if they can reduce the spot fests, do more story telling - which is what Hogan/Bishoff want to apparently do - then this can be done in a 6 sided ring.
See Hogan/Bischoff's argument is, if what the fans wants is so awesome, why arent they out in droves supporting the product. Having enough of a turn out to force TNA to go to bigger arenas more often or watching it enough to get a rating even in the 2.0's.
That hasn't happened, so the argument for firing all the "Hogan Hire's" and bringing back the 6 sided ring really have to fall on deaf ears. This, like I said, is ironic because I loved the 6 sided ring and watched and enjoyed TNA before half of the WWE roster got hired.
In all, good luck to TNA. I know they will do great.
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