TNA is in SERIOUS trouble

[dmacizdman]

the one thing that sucks for me is that TNA is very hamstrung with what they can and can't use after the wwe copywritten every single thing from wcw, ecw, etc.

no nwo, no kennedy, no "it's true, it's damn true", no dudleyz etc.

i'm actually surprised the wwe didn't copywrite nasty boys.

 

[The Lame One]

To be honest it shouldn't affect TNA in any way whatsoever what WWE has copyrights for as they should be bringing out something new and original if they wish to compete,not re-hash dried up and failed stories.
Wasn`t too great a sign of things to come with the title of the last impact..."the band",oh dear.

 

[The Roid Rage]

I don't want to get too far into this one but there is something I had to add that apparently everyone missed. Everyone is talking about what is or is not wrong with TNA, what they need to change, what they need to stay the same, and everyone has their own recipe for success in TNA. I think most of that stuff is wrong, as very few if any of you really know how to run a wrestling company, and therefore despite your insights are talking out of your asses for the most part.

Getting to the point. TNA is not really in a good or bad situation. It could quickly turn into one or the other based on the decisions they make in the neat future, but as of now they are fine. You all seem to bring up that TNA needs to go to Monday Nights comparing what WCW did to what TNA should do. I think while that is a part of the equation it is only a small part.

WCW didn't just beat WWF by airing one Monday night show a week. They followed up with shows on Thursdays, Saturday morning and evening, and Sundays. This is what TNA must do. They can not rely on one 2 hour show to take on the 6 hours of programming offered by the WWE. They need at least one more show to showcase the talent, move storylines along, and get more media exposure for the product. The problem is though, that Dixie and Co. don't own the network so it would be hard to get the time needed to make the impact they are looking for, they don't have a Ted Turner to give them all the air time they want and in this case, need.

The talent roster IMO is fine and it is smart to be picking up the talent that they have been. I think the stage and ring change was a good move and a necessary one as well. Having Hall, Waltman, Knobs and Sags, and some of the older talent is unnecessary but if used correctly could be a good move too. Hogan and Bischoff have helped, the ratings prove it, and I don't see it going anywhere but up. I like what they are doing, I just think they need more t.v. time to do it right. Otherwise, you run into the dilemma of not being able to push guys that really need it, and that will be able to make a difference on the show.

 

[thegoatone]

Well everybody has an opinion, as for TNA "bashers" We r just lookin at the history of Hogan and his Behind the scenes pull... Now if he does do what he says and makes a change and make vince mcmahon piss in his pants in anticipation of what they'll do next, Then more power to TNA, as I said They got great talent, I'd put their talent in front of WWE's...(Until WWE realizes what talent they got, that is.) But the references to WCW, has nothing to do with their success, Yea WCW was a great success, But TNA have the same writers that Drowned WCW in the freakin toilet, and now with Hogan and Bischoff pullin tha strings, IF they push Hogan and all his buddies to the moon, yet again, that will be the FAIL. All I'm sayin is their is a shit-ton o talent in that locker room, and hope Hogan can ACTUALLY get past his own spotlight, and continue to let their big name young stars keep theirs...

 

[ITrippedTheShockmaster]

Ok, I'm going to start this off by prefacing that I USED to be a Hulk Hogan fan, until Hogan turned into the shameless shill that is now Hulk Hogan Inc. to me. But, that's my opinion. Everyone's entitled to theirs.

Now, onto the matter at hand - is TNA in serious trouble? My answer - not yet, but it's close.

TNA/Panda took a big chance when they went into business with Hulk Hogan Inc.

I'm trying to look at this new TNA as positive. While I don't like Hogan or Bischoff, I think bringing them in could be the spark that TNA needed to get over that hump and actually compete with WWE... as long as it is done right.

When it was announced that Hogan and Bischoff were coming, I was leery. I didn't want this to become another vehicle for Hogan to sell himself. I thought maybe he did want to compete with Vince and put a better product out there. I thought to myself that maybe Hogan actually isn't in this for his own selfish means since his acting career sucks, his reality show sucks, his family is a train wreck and his hot daughter's singing career sucks.

Then, I see Hall... Waltman... the Nasty Boys... Orlando Jordan... Sean Morley... Bubba the Love Sponge... Oh crap. TNA's doomed.

Flair, I'll forgive. He may be buddies with Hogan, but I don't put him in that same catalog. Flair's proven himself over the years.

It's like a big fraternity. When the old frat leader becomes the boss of a company, he brings in his old buddies who need something to do. It's like nepotism, but without the blood relation. Granted, Morely and Jordan are still pretty young and are decent performers. But the rest of these guys should not be anywhere near a wrestling ring. And if you think Bubba the Love Sponge got his job because he's a great broadcaster, I've got beach-front resort in Montana to sell you, too.

Then they change the six-sided ring - one of the things which made TNA unique - back to the traditional four-sided ring. Good and bad, because it takes away something original but also gives traditional wresting fans a reason to watch and not thing TNA is this oddball promotion anymore.

Yes, none of Hogan's buddies have captured gold right off the bat, and that's a good thing. That gives me hope that maybe he won't bury the existing talent. Bringing Hardy, Kendrick and Anderson in also shows that they're keeping the young guys in the hunt... at least for now.

So, is TNA in trouble? As I said, not yet. Keep pushing the younger guys and established TNA talent, keep Hogan's buddies on short leashes and let them put the younger guys over and don't let TNA become all about Hulk Hogan Inc., and they may have a shot in a couple of years of competing with TNA. But, as said earlier in this thread, the current structure of contract will NEVER allow another Monday Night War like we saw in the 90's.

 

[Supersayin]

This is how i look at it, i havent watch WWE in about 8 years so i couldnt give a shit if they take TNA seriously or not. WWE Raw is the most stale and boring show in history of television. Its funny how all the ******s bash TNA yet they beg TNA to give WWE competition.

 

[MR.KENNEDY]

Seems that due to WWE/SKY deal that TNA can't use sky box office and Bravo don't wish to show any ppv that they don't have exclusivity rights too.

In one fell swoop TNA has managed to alienate the majority of it's UK fan base.THIS is the main problem they have atm.

But Bravo 2 shows the TNA PPV's usually the wednesday after the event. I'm not certain about Genesis but this was defintley the case with Final Resolution.

As to the post, I couldn't agree more. All that TNA can do is get recentley released/washed up talent. Full credit to VInce for covering his tracks with this one.

 

[hatehabsforever]

One reason, which I don't think anyone has mentioned yet, why TNA is in serious trouble is because they are putting out the best effort they can, pulling every rabbit out of every hat they have, and they are still only pulling in ratings of just over 1/3 of what WWE is pulling in. And more significantly than this, this is with WWE doing nothing of significance to wage "war" in return. In other words, TNA is pulling out all of the stops, with Anderson, Hardy, Spanky, not to mention all of the other guys, going head to head and live, with all the hype and bravado to go with it. Meanwhile WWE is responding with the same old same old. The only thing they did was bring back Bret Hart, and even that was lacklustre and in my opinion merely coincidental with the TNA uprising. Hornswoggle, guest hosts, same feuds, nothing's really changed with the WWE, and they're still killing TNA's best effort. Killing it.

What will happen to TNA if WWE ever gets serious? And brings back some big names such as the Rock or SCSA, involved on a special three hour live episode head to head with iMPACT, with wrestlers from all brands being brought in? How great will the ratings gap be then?

TNA is in serious trouble because WWE hasn't even begun to fight yet, and feels at this point that there's no need to. And WWE has the history and the resources to be in it for the long haul, and outlast TNA in a battle of attrition. Because TNA cannot sustain their current assault. There's only so many surprise debuts, so many swerves, before TNA runs out of ammo. Once they run out of ammo, and WWE puts the screws to them, it's over. Serious trouble.

 

[Derek Bastard]

I wouldn't say TNA is in serious trouble yet. There are alot of changes going on and right now it's almost as if it's a semi-starting over process so i'd say, you'd probably have to wait atleast three or so months to see if everything will successfully fall into place or just fall apart. It's waaaaaay to early to tell

 

[The Lame One]

But Bravo 2 shows the TNA PPV's usually the wednesday after the event. I'm not certain about Genesis but this was defintley the case with Final Resolution.

As to the post, I couldn't agree more. All that TNA can do is get recentley released/washed up talent. Full credit to VInce for covering his tracks with this one.

Bravo2 isn't showing Genesis,nor is it expected any future ppv's,It's on BT vision and seems that there is a deal with them.Seen something about a tna show seperate to the bravo coverage just for BT vision.

As i put in an earlier post,less than 500k people use this service,so not a good move by TNA on any level.

Just for funny factor i emailed tna enquiring if this was indeed the case and that the only way to see future ppv's was internet streams or BT vision,their reply? They mailed me the dates and line ups for the January UK tour,brilliant answer to my question on their part.

 

[ncwriter2908]

TNA is in trouble.....

6 sided ring was a dumb idead that just looked stupid. I have heard enough complaints and people laughing at them for trying to be different in a ****** way. The four sided ring should work. Its more traditional and what does 2 extra sides matter..lol

TNA Roster---The roster is in mass trouble. I am talking about the young guys. Samoa Joe looks fat an sluggish he is a guy who has never impressed me. Daniels is good in the ring but cannot tell a story or entertain for shit. Aj Styles thanks god ric flair may bring some interest to him. I think it may work out as a heel as I hate him anyway he is boring. Matt Morgan average ring skills and terrible mic. Who is the star TNA is suppose to have?

Hogan's Band---I have watched TNA for awhile and thank god Hogan is thier Bishoff and them can tell a story. They have mic skills. They are interested TV persona's, which is important when your on television. Hogan and the band more interesting than drunken rednecks beer money or southern talking Aj. What interesting person has the TNA team created in thier whole existance. The olds guys already have a gimmick set in when they get there. As for the young guys who has the TNA creative created that is of any interest. The answer is no one. The young guys have no personality. The Brittish Invasion----BORING!!! Hogan's crew are over and have nostalgic fans tunning in to see them it is up to the young guys to make them stick around.


Impact--The impact zone is terrible. You need to travel to sell your fans base more. The crowd looks dead half the time there anyway. They get a little rowdy when the old guys show up but not that much and the young guys have no personality. The productin value looks like a cheap verison of WCW. It looks to cheap to be on television

Knockouts----yeah they are hott which is great but they are not different than the divas. Except fat Awesome Kong who is boring in the ring anyway. Stop shoving them down my throat.

X- Division---Once again they killed the division when Joe,Daniels, Aj all left to be pushed to champions. Those three shoule never have left the division they are not world champ material. Aj and Daniels are ok in the ring but lack story telling and mic skills. Joe is not at all impressive from what I have seen. A world champ should be someone who has both ring and mic skills. Or be so over its not funny neither of which is Daniels, Aj or Joe so go back to the X division

TNA is over all a boring product aside from flipping around to see what is going on with the band,Jarret or Hogan. WHen Hall and Waltman leace which is going to happen I may not even watch anymore. The band was brough in to attract people the young guys have to make the people stay. I like TNA better than WWE but its still not interesting and very boring. The big young stars there are boring. I like seeing the old guys entertain though but they cant do it forever.

TNA needs PAUL HEYMAN they need a guy who can give us interesting t.v. personalities Sandman,Raven,RVD,Justin Credible,The Franchise,Sabu,

I know AJ and Daniels may be better pure wrestler than anyone of those guys but who cares the matches are fake. You script who wins so entertain me TNA with stories and telling a story in the match. ENTERTAIN ME!!!

 

[Pedro08]

I don't TNA is in trouble yet. Hogan and Bischoff have not even been in charge for a month yet. So you have to give them time and see what direction they will take the company.

That being said, there are some things that are troublesome. I personally liked the 6-sided ring because it's unique to TNA, but understand the change to the standard 4-sided ring. However, I do think that Hogan/Bischoff miscalculated the backlash from the fans inside the Impact zone and their response and explanation to the fans was pretty weak.

It also feels like the Hulkamania tour has invaded TNA and we are suppose to cheer them as faces. Case-in-point, Sean Morley and Daniels. No offense to Morley, but the TNA fans don't care about him, especially against Daniels, a TNA original. Even as Daniels heel-ed the fans by telling them to shut up, then fans were chanting for him last night during his match. Hogan experienced the exact same thing when he returned to the WWE and face off against The Rock, so he should just take the hint, turn Daniels face and Morley heel.

All the new acquisitions have been exciting, however only a few of them will have any real benefit to TNA. I'm hoping the Hogan lackeys are soon gone and the younger talent is developed and pushed. Relying too much on nostalgia will only last a few months, then what are they going to do or should I say Watcha gonna do?

 

[MikeKillam]

Really? TNA has nobody that can draw? They only get WWE leftovers?

1.) Highest rated TNA shows in history: 1)Hogan's debut, 2)Aftermath of Hogan's debut, 3.)Kurt Angle's debut, 4.)Mic Foley's debut.
2.) When you say they can't draw, are you comparing them to the WWE? Because that's insane. The WWE has been around longer than your great-grand parents. TNA's building is only so big. Their PPV buildings are only so big. Spike TV only gets so many viewers. But you know what? Their ratings have gone up over the last year on average. And the last two weeks have been record breaking. So they don't sell out the All-State Arena every week? So they don't get a rating of 4.3... Well guess what. If the All-State Arena housed TNA, WWE could threaten to blacklist the venue if they did it again. And WWE brings them a LOT of money. And TNA's ratings are inferior to the WWE's because they're a smaller and newer show. WWE owns the market...unlike the WWE, who can sit back and rake in cash because their fans are too adicted to stop watching their crap, TNA has to work to get fans.
3.) Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Sting, Team 3D, Jeff Hardy...these guys sell out buildings. AJ Styles is now more searched on Yahoo than John Cena. That's an impressive acomplishment...sort of. This is a list of the best in the business. Are you telling me they can't draw? TNA used to have ratings below 0.4! These guys are the reason they're up so high now! Of course they don't draw to your specifics, they're not the WWE! They have a hundred years of experience on their side!

So, I bash the WWE, but I am a fan of it. I have always been. But their product is crap in my opinion. I don't know that I could stop watching, but it's crap. The stories are lame and unoriginal. They use the same guys for everything, and their two legends Triple H and HBK are parading around looking completely stupid in head-to-toe merchandise, and putting on matches with a midget. They should be playing the role of Sting...putting guys over. But no... TNA isn't the best either. But you know what? Hulk Hogan, Eric Bishoff, and Ric Flair thought it had potential, went there, and the ratings have doubled... That's interesting to me. Ric Flair just screwed Kurt Angle! Do you know how long I've been waiting to see this happen? Ric Flair and Kurt Angle? AJ Styles is the best in the world in my opinion, and he's being made into the face of TNA. Do you know who the face of WWE is? John Cena. The guy sells like viagra at an old folks home, but he can't wrestle. In a year, maybe two, people will look at the two of them and realize that TNA's face of wrestling is the best in the world... Just because you don't make the most money, have the most fans, or sell the most merch, doesn't mean you aren't the best.
And I"m not saying TNA has the best product either right now. But they have more potential. Look at their roster and tell me it's not better than the WWE's? They have a handful of guys who can sell, but no more than TNA has. The difference is that TNA is taking their young talent and turning them into guys who can sell. That's success. Use Hulk Hogan, Mic Foley, Jarret, Angle to get ratings and get people watching, but don't overuse them like Cena, or people will stop watching and go back to the WWE. Once you have them watching because of guys like Kurt Angle, make them notice guys like Samoa Joe, Desmond Wolf, the Pope, AJ Styles, etc.
That's how I became a fan. I crossed the line to see why Kurt Angle would go to TNA. And then I saw him face Joe. And I stayed to watch the Joe vs. Kurt feud. And then I saw the X Division and it made me stay to see that. And then I saw that Sting was there, and it made me stay longer... And I haven't left yet. I've never been more excited to see TNA before. Hogan came in, and despite what the internet says, ratings go up and stories will become better. Angle and Flair is an example of the thigns to come.

Watch though, this year WWE and TNA will both be cutting back a lot of their loose ends. I think you'll see two very trimmed down rosters of only the best once this year is over.

 

[RicSpade]

Well I watched TNA pretty semi-religiously, and I have watched WWE all my life and I use to watch WCW, and I know what they are trying to do, but its just not coming off right in terms of TNA.

First off let me start by saying Hogan now is trying to come off like a pit boss, he sits there and tries to make you love him, but by becoming stern and an ass he tends to look more as a heel. Part of it I think has to do with being with bischoff because in his entire tenure in WCW and WWE he never came off as a true face.

In terms of the Mid card WWE stars in TNA most of you may not see it as the best move but honestly this does 1 of 2 things. 1: Eventually all established stars lose to the new blood of the wrestling world therefore giving them more credibility than they did before. 2. It helps show that WWE lost something special with the guys they had given up to TNA. I mean Christian really got the chance he was looking for with TNA and yes while he in only the ECW champion he is the only credible champion in the WWE in the last 2 years taking on all competitors and defending his title almost every week with the exception of this month. Angle who was looked at as all washed up by the WWE looks better now then he did in his Debut in WWE.

Honestly while Morley has lost his charm and his new gimmick seems like a lackluster knock off of 90's Val Venis and as much as you hate to give the man his due a vetran beat Daniels if it had been the nasty boys or the Anvil like what happened with Black Machismo then yeah I would say crap, but its not like Morley can't go anymore.

Yeah WCW failed but it was because they didn't give new talent a push before it was too late you Wolfe beating a guy like Joe yeah Nigel was established in ROH and so had Joe but unless ur a diehard lets read the boards fan you don't know that or how he goes toe to toe with Angle or how Pope beat Wolfe cleanly... I mean you people have to remember even if it isn't legit like MMA anyone can beat anyone on any night...

 

[Afro-Ameri-Spawn]

Okay, first and foremost, let me just say this. TNA is NOT In trouble in the least bit. Sure you can gab and piss and moan about how they stars that they have brought in are WWE cast offs but, outside of Shannon Moore and Orlando Jones, each and every guy who TNA has brought in for some initial buzz would be welcomed back into the WWE. Well maybe Sean Waltman wouldn't be, but hey he never was really wanted anywhere where he has gone anyways. Think I'm full of bullshit? Well give me a minute and I will show you the err of your ways my friend.

With the WWE getting incredibly thin on actual GOOD candidates for the Hall of fame from the Rock-N-Wrestling era, that Vince hasn't adamantly pissed off to the point of refusal. You can see this by how they are dipping into the Attitude Era for name. And some of the biggest names from that era are currently on TNA's roster. if you don't think that Vince wouldn't find something for Scott Hall, Val Venis, The Nasty Boys, or Kevin Nash to do so that he could write their final chapter then you are sadly mistaken. And Kevin Nash would be the most appealing of all as he can still wrestle regularly and has been know the still possess Triple H's left testicle in a mystical bag that he has hanging around his neck. One phone call, he gets a run on WWE's time.

And as far as stars like Hardy and Kenne-I mean Anderson go, these are guys who would have been back in WWE in a heartbeat. Rumors have it(oh yes, I said rumors) that Hardy had already verbally committed to return to the WWE and took the chance of incurring Vince' almighty wrath by secretly signing a deal with TNA to help create some pop and shock similar to when Hall and Nash did it oh so long ago. And Ken Anderson is a great hand (as old Jr. would say) and has great mic skills to go along with his charisma. Thing is that the WWE lifestyle made him injury prone. He won't have that problem with the lighter TNA schedule and will get more rest. And are you telling me that WWE would have had him come back within the next year? With all of the buddy new talent on the horizon in their ranks(yeah right) who need to suck dick to get ahead, odds are that they would have brought him back for a quick feud or two or to put over a new guy. And Hardy? Well short of being involved in a murder, he is hall of fame bound. Period.

If anything, TNA is smart for getting some names out there, because their target audience is NOT the new WWE Universe, it's the old fans who got tired of seeing PG rated stuff. I mean the network is an all men's network who's main draws are about guys who beat the shit out of each other for the chance to do it for money one day and a show about how big tits have to be to crush a beer can. Do you REALLY think that they aren't wanting the Attitude era audience that WWE is seemingly spurning now? Don't kid yourself there kid. They want them and will do what they can to get them. And seeing as how most of these guys are at the "Will Work For Food" pay level, it's a steal. This aint the days when Bischoff had free reign over Turner's spare change. Panda energy is closely monitoring these contracts and are putting provisions in so the iffy guys will be out on their asses if they screw up. If my humble opinion, its a win win situation where they really don't have much to lose. Plain and simple.

 

[fredstephenson]

TNA will not fail as much as you want it to wolvdog316. I know you're a Hogan hater and want the Hogan experiment to fail but the truth is that TNA doesn't need any Cena's or Ortons. They have all the pieces in places. They have the cream of the crop. They have the guys that were considered the future in WWE about 3-4 years ago with the Lashleys and Andersons. They have the talented guys WWE missed out on such as Morgan & The Pope. They have the cream of the crop from the indies such as Joe, Homocide, and Wolfe. They have the TNA originals like Hernandez, AJ Styles, Daniels, etc. They have some of the most recognized and accomplished faces in wrestling like Hogan, Ric Flair, Sting, Foley, and Kurt Angle. They have 1 of wrestlings if not wrestling biggest draw of 2009 which is Jeff Hardy. They've got the best wrestling roster right now. How much more do you think TNA needs? TNA is fine. All they need is more tv time and that Monday Night stage every week. The pieces are there. All they have to do is put the pieces together. So no, TNA is not in any trouble.

i agree im a long time wwe fan short time tna fan i started watching as recently as the jan 4th impact im sure your not surprised to hear so i probally dont have as valid an opinion on it as much as some of you guys but watching tna has actually reminded me what i love about pro wrestling after watching the general garbage theyve put on raw for a long time from what ive seen so far tna is a really entertaining show sure it has faults but what doesnt but it seems to be a healthy alternative to the wwe or at least developing into one because tna actually feels like a wrestling show i think they are just experimenting with the changes at the moment to see what works and what doesnt i think we should give them a chance because if tna keep it up and get recognised as a major player in the wrestling world i think there far from being in trouble

 

[lineo]

AJ Styles is now more searched on Yahoo than John Cena.

Do you have proof of this? I'm not trying to be mean-spirited here, I'm asking this as a serious question.

I bet 95% of the roster on TNA, AJ Styles included, would love to be in Cena's position right now. The other 5% will quit the wresting business within the next few years. Whether you love or hate John Cena the character (I hear that John Cena the person is a very nice guy, though), he's the only guy in recent (recent as in the last 5 years) wrestling memory that has reached mainstream status. Cena is not that close to The Rock's or Stone Cold Steve Austin's level at this point, but he's a lot closer to them than AJ Styles.

I actually think AJ Styles needs to see if he can make it in WWE. AJ Styles has done everything he can in TNA. To this day, a casual wrestling fan still does not know his name. He's "That Guy That Wrestled Kurt Angle On That Hexagon Wrestling Show With Hulk Hogan After UFC".

Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Sting, Team 3D, Jeff Hardy...these guys sell out buildings.

For clarification: AJ Styles on his own does not sell out buildings.

Somehow, Jeff Hardy really did have "Rock Star Status" in WWE. I think he should have stayed out of wrestling altogether instead of joining TNA. He could have elevated himself even higher if he returned to WWE. The "We Want Matt" chants from a few years ago would have been insignificant and basically forgotten compared to the "We Want Jeff" chants if he had even just slightly teased returning to WWE. I'm not confident he'll have the same "Rock Star Status" in TNA. I think it'll play as "Oh, he's in TNA now. Neat. But, man, now we won't see him attend WrestleMania to destroy that bastard CM Punk! Damn it."

Now that they seem to have some extra eyeballs watching, TNA needs to create a big-time feud. I honestly don't know what that feud would be, and it better not be Sting vs. Flair, or Hogan vs. Flair. If they can't capitalize on the extra viewership, then, yes, they are in trouble. They may not go under, but it will prove that this company still doesn't know what to do with itself.

 

[hogan is the greatest]

i admit tna was in trouble when they had a dumb ass running the show like jarrett and when they had that silly ass kiddy camp play pin ring but now they have a real ring and more importantly they have hogan who is a wrestling god hogan was and still is more popular than anybody wwe has ever had or will ever have hogan is greatest of all time and the smartest man in wrestling history as long as they have hogan there is no way possible they can fail hogan is all they need and for whar ever dumm ass said vince owns trademarks to everybodys name is bull shit hogan has always owned trademarks and copy rights to the name hulk hogan it even saids it own the back of the new dvd set that wwe just released about hogan the unrealesed collection it says own the back that the trademark of hogan is owened by terry bollea but think you hogan for making a piece of crap company like tna a mainstream company and thank you for making tna better than wwe but it dont take much to be better than wwe thank you


IN HOGAN WE TRUST

 

[Maikeru_1979]

I hardly ever post on here cause most of the time the majority of the topics are just people bitching about one thing or another and then arguing about it for days.
But onto this topic. What people don't realize right now is that Hogan and Easy E are there as PARTNERS with Panda Energy and Dixie. Which means that they have a stake(money) in the company and if the company goes broke and folds then they lose money as well. I don't think even Hogan is stupid enough to put money into a company and then turn around and run that investment into the ground.
As for what Hogan and Eric said on the live monday show. they are looking to make TNA the best WRESTLING COMPANY in the world. They will do that because WWE is no longer a WRESTLING COMPANY.
Third..as for all the changes going on the only one I don't 100% agree with is getting rid of the 6 sided ring THIS FAST think they should have waited till after Lockdown myself end the PPV with the 6 sided ring getting destroyed.
But think of things this way..most everyone on here are fans of professional sports(MLB NBA, NFL you get the idea) TNA is in a rebuilding effort just as when a pro team loses a bunch or all their top talent(Raiders) they take some time to bring in a few older vets(Sean, Sean, Hall, Ric) to help the younger players(AJ, Daniels, Joe, MCMG) get the hang of the big time. then after 6 months to a year cause it's wrestling they older vets vanish and the young bucks take over.

Let's give everything time to level out and let's see how things are looking in 6 months to a year from now.

 

[lineo]

i admit tna was in trouble when they had a dumb ass running the show like jarrett and when they had that silly ass kiddy camp play pin ring but now they have a real ring and more importantly they have hogan who is a wrestling god hogan was and still is more popular than anybody wwe has ever had or will ever have hogan is greatest of all time and the smartest man in wrestling history as long as they have hogan there is no way possible they can fail hogan is all they need and for whar ever dumm ass said vince owns trademarks to everybodys name is bull shit hogan has always owned trademarks and copy rights to the name hulk hogan it even saids it own the back of the new dvd set that wwe just released about hogan the unrealesed collection it says own the back that the trademark of hogan is owened by terry bollea but think you hogan for making a piece of crap company like tna a mainstream company and thank you for making tna better than wwe but it dont take much to be better than wwe thank you


IN HOGAN WE TRUST

Grammar, punctuation, and spelling. Ever heard of them? Also, are you a troll?

Any time Hogan is on screen or in the ring, TNA fans should chant "Steroids!" or "Nick's Gonna Kill You!" or "Broken Family! (Clap clap, clap clap clap!)"

Impact Zone, make it happen!

 

[Jack-Hammer]

There's nothing really that I can say that hasn't already been said. If this is what is supposed to be competition for the WWE, then the WWE truly does have nothing to be concerned over.

The two biggest things that happened last night are Ken Anderson's debut in TNA and AJ Styles turning heel. As to Ken Anderson, it's hard for me to get excited about the guy. It seems as though he's going to be doing the exact same thing in TNA that he was doing in the WWE in terms of character. That's all well and good but can he actually stay healthy? The match with Abyss was forgettable and the crowd seemed to lose interest in what was happening with each passing minute. Styles turning heel wasn't something that surprised me all that much and it could be interesting with Ric Flair somehow in the scenario. That is the only single intriguing thing happening in TNA Wrestling right now in my opinion and it's not nearly enough to hold my interest.

When you look at most of the recent arrivals in TNA, I truly do understand where the term "WWE rejects" came from. With the sole exception of Jeff Hardy, who hasn't made an appearance since the show on January 4th, there is nobody that Hulk Hogan has brought in that the WWE wants. If Hulk Hogan expects the wrestling masses to be excited about a large influx of has beens and neverwases running around TNA, then TNA truly is in trouble. A perfect example was the Sean Morley/Daniels match. Sean Morley is someone that has spent much of the past decade as an irrelevant non-factor in the WWE. Daniels is someone that, over the past few months, has been a top and legit contender for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. Daniels goes from being #1 contender to jobbing cleanly to Sean Morley? That's just a sad statement in and of itself.

 

[HitmanAndRKO4Life]

The biggest mistake TNA made was going after Hulk Hogan and not The Rock. They would've made PERFECT sense for Rocky, he wouldn't have to work a lot, he'd be mostly in Florida, and wouldn't even have to wrestle much. Just him being on the show would draw tons of his fans (from his WWF/E days and from his movies) to watch.

Now, I know he's not going to come back to wrestling full-time, but that would not be required of him. And from the sound of things, he won't be ready to do ANYTHING at all until this Summer, but he would've been worth the wait!

Instead of forcing the issue on January 4th with the Crippled Hulkster, wait until May or June (right after the Bret Hart/WrestleMania hype dies off and the WWE gets in its usual post-WrestleMania funk) when The Rock would be ready and bring him in to shock the world.

The fans would absolutely go crazy for him.

The rehashing attempt is really not going in any direction at all. Nasty Boys? Sean Morley? Orlando whatever-the-heck his name is? Really? I like Hall and Waltman, but come on, Hall should not be allowed in the ring! They're good for a few comedy skits, and Waltman SHOULD still be able to wrestle, but why try and force us to believe that Hall can beat any of these young, athletic, talented TNA stars?

I hope this bad start if because of all the new talent coming in at once and the writers not being able to think of good stuff, quick enough.

We shall see. But I was thinking it from day one, they gave the big money to the wrong guy. The Rock would've put TNA over all by himself.

 

[wolvdog316]

First off, thank you everybody for voicing your opinions. I had no idea this thread would take off like it did, and a lot of people brought up a lot of good reasons for and against TNA being in trouble. I'll try to give even more reasoning behind my first post, but first...

"Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Sting, Team 3D, Jeff Hardy...these guys sell out buildings."

Those guys don't ALWAYS sell out buildings. Hogan could sell out WM 7 so they changed the venue. Hogan and Flair couldn't sell out WCW in 94-96 in various arena's. Aj Styles, Sting, 3D couldn't sell out a 2,500 person arena. And Hardy, I want to see what he can draw without WWE's kids viewership

I want to add to my first post but I want to address a few things.

First off, I am in no way a TNA hater, and that's really an immature and stupid term to use. I liked the X Division, I liked Joe, I really like Styles, and Pope, and Beer Money and the womens division and Wolfe, Angle, Hernadez (actually knew him quite well, wrestled in the Humble Bingo Hall 30 minutes from Houston). My problem with TNA is over the years they have taken away what made them different. What originally made me go "Ok, this is different then WWE, I like this". Those things are long gone now.

And WCW was the same way. Cruiserweights became an afterthought when nWo just started to eat Nitro.

I think it's well known I think Hogan is a piece of shit. Because he is. It's also well known I don't watch the WWE very much. I haven't watched a whole WWE PPV since WM, since I was there.

The point of this thread, and I think I missed it, and need explain it further.

Hogan was hailed as the savior. The final piece to compete with WWE. Only problem is, Hogan doesn't seem to have a clue what he is doing. His supposed faces are heels, and his heels are faces, he is getting boo'd, matches for free on 1/4 were main events at Genesis. Changing the ring without letting the talent know.

TNA is a family. I know they say it like a gimmick but it really is. ECW was a family. I enjoyed both of them up to a point. But, and this is what Hogan fails to see. If you take what makes TNA unique away, then they have NO chance to survive. I understand WHY the ring was changed. But then again I understand it made TNA unique. And if you take away the X Division, take away a mid carders title, take away the 6 sides, take away the Ultimate X match, you start taking away what attracted most people away from WWE in the first place WITHOUT first adding some new viewers then you have a problem.

TNA can't beat WWE at their own game. WWE has perfected it. They shut down WCW with it. So you need to take your own flavor, your own vibe and just add pieces around it

And one poster, and I can't remember his name, made a brilliant observation. TNA are fighting, clawing, bringing in every name they can think of, and frankly besides the Rock and Austin they have nobody left to call. Maybe RVD but that's about it. Point is, TNA IS fighting right now, they are bringing their big guns early and all they had to show for was a .2 better than their all time high.

WWE isn't doing jack. Bret Hart STILL won't be appearing on Raw tonight. What happens if Vince says fuck it, lets kill it before it gets big and starts to switch to better programs? Longer feuds, more violence. They take a gamble and turn Cena heel, remove Hornswallows, break DX up, yadda yadda. What if Vince wakes up and starts to produce a quality wrestling product again. Then TNA is dead to rights.

Reminds me of paintball, if you ever played it. You got guys up front, couple in middle, 1 or two in the back. You attack, but if you fail with your attack you still have the back and middle to potentially hold it down and defend your flag. TNA seems to have everybody in the front line with nobody defending the flag, and WWE seems to be defending the flag with everyone they have and nobody is attacking. So which one will lose? The guys attacking leaving their base unguarded.

TNAs problem is what WCWs was towards the end. They think wrestling fans have short memories and in some cases it's true. But in alot of ways they don't. Fans don't understand how Abyss is the supposed hardcore icon yet brass knuckles puts him down. They can't take Daniels seriously when last month he was good enough to challenge AJ for the title, but this month he couldn't beat Morey who was a WWE jobber last year. They can't take X division seriously when their champion hardly ever gets air time, and their big match ends in a huge clusterfuck on Jan 4th. You just can't erase the past and start a clean slate. Doesn't work like that.

 

[darkserenade]

WOW man... All i have to say is, Give it time!! It hasn't even been a month yet and everyone is saying it will fail.. Let them find a groove let them become something more.. So they took away the six sided ring, big deal. Was the PPV good last night? Not really.. But give it time! Give A.J. and flair time to prove something.. Give wolfe and Pope some time to build up something good.. You are all so fast to judge and point fingers..

Who cares that all these old guys are back, they are only there for show to try and get old fans to think "Oh yeah nasty boyz are back lets check this out"

Odds are it will be a great hardcore fude between the two teams.. Nasty boyz are so old and out of shape that all they can do is hardcore. So lets have at it!

Also let the highflyers find a groove to work with this new ring set up.. You never know maybe last night was just a trial for the ramp.. So many questions are to be addressed and no one is giving them time..

The main problem is all you haters want TNA to fail.. You want to be able to say "I told you so" and it upsets you when they change something, and it upsets you when they get something right..

Look at ROH they have a 4 sided ring i don't see anyone yelling about that.. They all pull off moves that are unreal in the 4 sided ring.. WWF/E did high flying moves, WCW did highflying moves.. So gosh just give it time and stop being babies about the whole thing.. It can work it just takes time!!!

 

[hogan is the greatest]

The biggest mistake TNA made was going after Hulk Hogan and not The Rock. They would've made PERFECT sense for Rocky, he wouldn't have to work a lot, he'd be mostly in Florida, and wouldn't even have to wrestle much. Just him being on the show would draw tons of his fans (from his WWF/E days and from his movies) to watch.

Now, I know he's not going to come back to wrestling full-time, but that would not be required of him. And from the sound of things, he won't be ready to do ANYTHING at all until this Summer, but he would've been worth the wait!

Instead of forcing the issue on January 4th with the Crippled Hulkster, wait until May or June (right after the Bret Hart/WrestleMania hype dies off and the WWE gets in its usual post-WrestleMania funk) when The Rock would be ready and bring him in to shock the world.

The fans would absolutely go crazy for him.

The rehashing attempt is really not going in any direction at all. Nasty Boys? Sean Morley? Orlando whatever-the-heck his name is? Really? I like Hall and Waltman, but come on, Hall should not be allowed in the ring! They're good for a few comedy skits, and Waltman SHOULD still be able to wrestle, but why try and force us to believe that Hall can beat any of these young, athletic, talented TNA stars?

I hope this bad start if because of all the new talent coming in at once and the writers not being able to think of good stuff, quick enough.

We shall see. But I was thinking it from day one, they gave the big money to the wrong guy. The Rock would've put TNA over all by himself.

who in the hell would want a sell out want to be like the rock who couldnt make it in wrestling and had to take the easY waY out with his litlle movies that most of them sucked by the way with the excepion of maybe two when they can have a wrestling god like hogan the greatest to ever lace up a pair of boots the man who made wrestling without hogan they would be no wrestling period people should be kissings hogans feet and thinking him for making wrestling and yes the cruiserwaits become an after thought when hogan and the nwo started people wanted to see real stars and true wrestling noboby wanted to see a bunch of idiots jump around and fly like stupid ass monkeys if they wanted to see that then people would not watch wrestling they would go by a ticket to ringly brothers circus and watch all the other monkeys fly i swear some people never sese to amaze me they get dumb and dumber by the day

IN HOGAN WE TRUST