TNA Impact to go head to head with Raw

[Spillz3000]

I know for a fact that when I'm watching Raw I always wished I had another wrestling show to tune into during commercials. If TNA can put on a decent show then they can potentially turn over WWE fans while they flip the channels during commercials. I actually think it will be a pretty good move cause they have a better chance of making a new fan on a Monday night rather than a thursday night. I mean I like the fact that I have two show battling for my attention. So put on a good show while I flip the channel from Raw and I may not be tempted to switch over to Raw if I know when TNA comes back they got something I really want to see. So I say try it TNA and if it doesn't work your not going to be hurting anymore than you are right now.

Especially for all these people who constantly say TNA is going to get bought out in a matter of years. Well if thats the case I rather see them fail going balls out then fail knowing they did nothing to try to change things around here. So I say lets see another Monday Night War.

 

[dvayne]

everyone you mentioned with the exception of Desmond Wolfe, Joe, Young, Styles & Abyss were all former WWE stars. I bring this up to make my point as TNA doesn't have anyone that the WWE didn't already have and the WWE is STILL the permier organization in the world, bar none. Simply put, until the day comes that TNA can stand on it's on with the majority of its main-eventers NOT coming from the WWE, then it will continue to play 2nd fiddle. Say whatever you want, hell, they can bring in Stone Cold and still be 2nd, because fans will ALWAYS identify their brand with the WWE. What Vince did in the early to mid 80s was take mid-carders and make them stars (though Hogan, Piper and Steamboat were hardly mid-carders but the rest of them were.

He did that and made the fans see the characters NOT their past. TNA has yet to do that. Foley? Still the same "hardcore legend" he was in WCW, ECW & WWE. The Dudleys? The same. Sting. The same. Angle. The same. Nothing's change except the location, that's all.

So bringing Hogan and Bishoff (and possibly Flair) in will do nothing to continue to promote the brand, it will only hinder it that much more. Think about it, who would you rather watch on Monday nights as a fan??? Sting battling Hogan (who by then would have politicked himself to death for the title), or Orton and Kingston? I don't care for Cena and make no bones about it, BUT I'd PAY to see him than watch Nash stumble around the ring fighting Flair any day of the week. Simply put, TNA is doomed to fail until their stars are THEIR stars, not Vince's table scraps.

I don't watch TNA for their ex WWE stars I watch it for the X Division and and the future maineventers. It's no different than WWE right now except that they are actually pushing their younger talent. Turning Point has Styles, Daniels and Joe in the title match. Angle is giving Wolfe a rub, Mick Foley and Abyss. I'm not even saying they should use Flair or Hogan in the ring but their names will bring people in and they will see what the younger talent has to offer in TNA

How is the repetitive WWE mainevent with DX, Cena and Orton better than TNA? I am looking forward to Kofi & Orton but other than that WWE is still using the same formula they have had by not putting anyone over. Mark my words Kofi will not become a maineventer from this. It will turn out like Cena & Miz. Until WWE loses their mainevent talent they will not change it up. and we will suffer the same mainevent matches for the next few years occasionally trading maineventers from brand to brand

 

[dvayne]

I do not know why people are so hyped up about a TNA/WWE monday night war. We do not need to choose. Be like me and watch one and tape the other. WOW what an idea.

I agree with watching both but a Monday night war would actually have to make Vince acknowledge TNA and put on his A game to take them down and he's not going to do it with a midget wearing DX merchandise and hotshoting the title between Cena, HHH, and Orton every few weeks

 

[Christian Battlez]

The problem with the ratings argument is simple: advertisers and sponsors aren't going to pay for shows drawing .5 or .6s. Spike could put old UFC fights on and draw higher than that. If people don't watch, they don't see the advertisements. If that happens, companies won't pay and there's no TV time. See what I mean about going out of business now? Staying in their current time slot gives them a chance to grow more and have a steady base. Once they do that in another 5 years or so, THEN make the jump. Until then it's suicide and throwing away all of the work they've done.

TNA isn't pulling in .5's and .6's though. They are pulling in 1.0's and 1.1's. Moving to Monday's won't kill TNA because TNA fans will still stay loyal to TNA. Casual fans in America don't know about TNA so they don't watch thus TNA won't lose any fans. Moving to Mondays will cause the TNA fans that watch Raw out of habit on Mondays will now have to pick whether or not to watch the first hour of raw or the second hour of Impact every monday. If TNA builds up the second hour by promoting matches in the first hour then I see no reason to believe why at least the TNA fans will finish watching Impact over turning to Raw. Thus TNA's ratings can only improve from a switch to Monday Nights.

 

[brethart4life]

I agree with watching both but a Monday night war would actually have to make Vince acknowledge TNA and put on his A game to take them down and he's not going to do it with a midget wearing DX merchandise and hotshoting the title between Cena, HHH, and Orton every few weeks

This may make Vince acknowledge TNA, but that is not my point. People are saying that they have to choose between the two and we do not. we can watch both.

 

[Christian Battlez]

This may make Vince acknowledge TNA, but that is not my point. People are saying that they have to choose between the two and we do not. we can watch both.

People should choose though. Maybe watching Impact instead of Raw will make Vince realize he needs to step up. I'm all for the idea if TNA gets enough steam to tuning out Raw and watching Impact live and encouraging other people to do so. We the fans have the power. If were not watching he doesn't get his precious ratings and his sponsors he worked so hard to aquire get angry. Then his PG era he brought in will be for nothing because the sponsors want ratings. Pick one or the other and give us a legit war.

 

[RicSpade]

Man I have been messing with all the news sites and rumors running around and I must say there are some things that definitely need to be addressed about RAW VS TNA on Mondays.

First TNA is going to have to go live, which except for their weekly ppv concept and monthly ppvs they have only went live once. Otherwise what is going to stop Vince from pulling an Easy-E and go well Chris Sabin whoever the hell that is will beat WWE reject Kurt Angle tonight in the main event, granted it could swerve to TNA's favor but this is how Eric stole the ratings for all those straight weeks, it has to be live even if your airing an hour earlier than Raw.

As for having all the old WWE guys on TNA you say the formula failed, but there is a key difference now to then. Eric got thrown off the mountain by Billionaire Ted and they put Ferrera and Russo in charge and by then Eric couldn't fix things when they wanted to bring him back. The new insight is and every guy in TNA knows this if you can't push your new guys your product has no future you just can't let certain major stars use their weight to get what they want.

I garuntee you if TNA were to put the title on Hogan at all he wouldn't be going up against guys like Styles and Daniels he'll be taking on bigger guys like Joe, Morgan, Abyss.

The real benefit here is you finally get to see matches people always wanted to see in the WWE but never happened, especially if any other wrestlers get involved in TNA's new package with BHE entertainment. I won't lie I wanted to see Foley and Hogan go at it, I could see Hogan and Sting taking the TNA tag titles which would be awesome cause they hadn't teamed up in such a long time.

The other thing is BHE and Dixie carter, they may not have Billionaire Ted money, but they realize that their combined forces and wrestling knowledge they can add whatever star power they need, and still have the ability to put on the WWE alternative and while I can't believe we won't see the numbers we saw in the past, if TNA buys time on enough networks you will see Ratings for Raw and TNA hit 5-6 maybe even 7 on the ratings.

Will Vince pull the pg rating? Not at first, cause he is going to see how much people crave the change from being kid friendly is compared to seeing an edgy product, if he has to he knows showing half naked chicks won't work like it use to he is going to have to have blood and innovation and ppv like main events like Cena and Triple H had two weeks ago on Raw. And to be honest I think we already began seeing the edge coming back to RAW I mean you had Kofi tearing up Randys car it reminded me of Austin destroying the offices at Titan Towers when he became co-owner.

The last thing that TNA and WWE is are this:
TNA - If you want people to get into your product you have to show them why TNA is better than WWE, I'd mock the WWE like WWF did with WCW (remember Nacho Man and the Huckster?) maybe something to the effect of how John Cena has five moves and doesn't sell injuries or how nothing is high flying anymore but TNA has the X- Division, Ultimate X, Elevation X, and most importantly The Six Sided Ring, this isn't your grandparents wrestling, this is TNA!

WWE - Honestly I would challenge the average fan to tune into TNA for that first hour they are on and then tune into RAW where you see all the big stars of today, will it hurt your ratings if they are into it? Absolutely but, this again makes you sit there and go what are they doing that we should be, and gets the gears going. Secondly If you merge the brand you have to reunify the titles or put ECW in a 2 hour slot and put one of the secondary titles on there or your going to have 52 wrestlers wrestling on three shows in 2 hours and not have time to prominently do something with 8 titles, you won't need a womans and divas champ, or two heavyweight champs, so keep that in mind.

Either way I love both companies and as long as I see something different on wrestling I am happy.

 

[Doubleo13]

it will be good for TNA to be on Monday Vince will have competition and he will have to give us a better product then what he has been giving us, i believe TNA will get alot of the wwe fans.

and it will let TNA show case the wrestling and the x- Division and the knockouts.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

This is nuts! Crazy day of announcements for TNA. I agree with Mark Madden:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/mark-madden-discusses-tnas-proposed-monday-night-show-89031

who said that the biggest acquisition is not really Hogan but really Eric Bischoff. Hogan is the spotlight name value that may garner attention from those that want to see TNA, but Bischoff is the minds that may get the deals done. and he's also the brains

I hope Ez-E and Hogan are serious about wanting to put TNA over and are not here for ulterior motives. Eric has been more serious in this decade compared to his young, brass smiling cocky personality he used to have on and off camera.

I'm excited. This is something nobody expected would ever happen. Dixie has invested and turned a company that started at a time wrestling was going down and made it profitable. In addition, the fans have won throughout the past 5-6 years.

I hope they can tour, give this new show a new fresh look (to compliment the impact look and style). Taping 4 hours a week will be a lot, so here's hoping they have a different location than the Impact Zone.

"This is TNA" the Monday Night 9-11pm show that aired unopposed to Raw did a 1.2 - as nobody around the world knew of TNA and knew that it was airing that night. If TNA is going head to head, it may take some time for the viewers to catch on.. "did you know there was this other wrestling show on at the same time as Raw? CHECK IT OUT!"

- Dixie believes in Russo which is why his longtime friend and partner Ferrara was brought in recently - so I doubt any major creative changes are in the works if Dixie is smart
- Jeff, Dutch AND Cornette ( a thorn in the product's potential IMO ) are OUT - which I'm happy about

- Now Hogan, Bischoff and a new TV show?

TNA is on top of the fucking world!

 

[GameOver]

Gee i don't remember saying from the getgo that TNA was just WCW without the money.
took a few years, but they've just proved my point.

bye bye TNA

 

[AzLunchbox]

I'm actually sensing something big coming. I didn't even think of it at first.....but now that it's all sunk in......Hogan Being Signed........Then the bigger thing here, Bischoff being signed. Rumors of going head to head.

I don't think we're going to see Impact moved to Monday Nights.

Nope,

I think we're going to see TNA debut it's brand new show LIVE on Monday Nights......TNA NITRO! Brought to you by Eric Bishoff!

I mean it might not happen but it's possible. Eric may have finally found a way to get Nitro back on the air to compete with Raw. How huge would that be?

Especially if they could sign up a few free agents like: RVD, Ken Kennedy, Umaga, Ric Flair, Jeff Hardy, and maybe a few others, then they'd be set and would just need to get their name out there enough. And noone better to get them publicity then Hulk Hogan!

 

[Freddy4190]

TNA does have the power to go head to head with the WWE, they certainly have the young talent. But they insist on pushing these old heads who they know can get the job done, who they know can consistently work a good match, etcetc. They need to just take a chance, start going balls out and just throw the rookies out there, give them that monster push and see where it goes. That's what Vince did with Stone Cold and The Rock, shitty gimmicks at first.. then just flung them out there to fend for themselves. They're on the right track, I give 'em that. They need to just finalize it though. The crowd doesn't wanna see Scott Steiner or Kevin Nash in a match anymore. I think this whole thing with McGuinness coming over is wonderful, I can't wait to see how they use this gentleman. TNA cannot compete with WWE RIGHT NOW but it's not impossible.

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

Hold on...Let me ask a simple yet complex question here: I thought Flair hated, despised Eric Bishoff. The way he's ripped him in his books, on DVDs, etc etc, really made everyone believe he hated the man's guts. But NOW all of a sudden he's probably going to be with Bishoff doing the promotional tour along with possibly signing with TNA? That's not the exact question, rather how long will this relationship last? Furthermore, doesn't it seem as if for everything the WWE (i.e. Vince, HHH, Shawn, etc) did for Flair during his seemingly "fake" retirement, that Flair has signed his death warrant with Vince & Co.? I have lost almost all respect for Flair, or what little bit I had left, and alliging himself with Bishoff, the man whom he swore (well, maybe not swore, but you get the point) almost ruined his career, well that just seems like it's a project destined to fail miserably.

 

[NSL]

TNA Impact is not going anywhere. A show appearing on Mondays would be a 2nd show for TNA, not their only show. With Impact remaining as their "A" show, it could do well with a Monday night show, especially in the proposed 8p-10p timeslot. They get a full hour without going head-to-head with RAW, and if they treat it as a "B" show, then there won't be a major worry over ratings right away, because Impact should reap the larger rewards anyway.