The WWE HOF

[crossface for ever]

Ok now this is a two part question.

FIrst off in a recent interview as reported by WZ Ricky Steamboat said he predicts Macho Man to be inducted in 2012. Now I am not taking away anything from Savage but I think this would be the worst move ever. The only reason Vince would induct Savage is because of his death, and I think that's bull. It was never a secret these two did not get along and for Vince to try and capitolize on his death for ratings would be a seriously ******** move in my opinion. SO what I want to know is do you agree that they should wait at least a few years so it's not like Savage dying is the only reason he gets in. Or do you think no matter what this does nothing to tarnish his legacy.

The second part is who deserves to be in the HOF but will never get there. For me it has to be Benoit. Yes what the guy did is horrible, however I do not think that what he did in the ring can ignored. He was one of the greatest WRESTLERS of all time and he deserves to be recognized for that. Now I'm not saying he has to be the headlining inductee but a mention of his name wouldn't hurt. IMO WWE is as much to blame for what happened to him as anyone so why not induct Benoit? So the second question who do you think deserves to be in the HOF but will most likely never make it there.

 

[Hart316]

Savage should have been the main HOFamer the year after Hogan, he is in the top 10 of all time no doubt. And its pathetic that he had to die to get in, its pathetic that Koko B Ware got in before savage. And that they begged Ultimate Warrior to join and yet they make a dvd about his self destruction. Every year i waited for savage to be announced, and i thought for sure this was his year, i thought hbk couldve waited a few more since they will put rock in next year and hbk can still go. If koko B Ware made it in, I cant think of any wrestler that wont. They set the bar low with that choice imo

 

[SinCityBlitz]

Savage should have been the main HOFamer the year after Hogan, he is in the top 10 of all time no doubt. And its pathetic that he had to die to get in, its pathetic that Koko B Ware got in before savage. And that they begged Ultimate Warrior to join and yet they make a dvd about his self destruction. Every year i waited for savage to be announced, and i thought for sure this was his year, i thought hbk couldve waited a few more since they will put rock in next year and hbk can still go. If koko B Ware made it in, I cant think of any wrestler that wont. They set the bar low with that choice imo

I do agree that Savage deserved it before Koko but Koko got in because of his WHOLE BODY of work not just his WWE days.

Vince was starting to open up to Savage a bit more so IMO Savage would have made the HOF within the next few years. It just so happened that he died before that could happen.


Saying that the WWE is partly to blame for what Benoit did is the dumbest(sorry not trying to be an ass) thing I have ever heard. Benoit decided to become a wrestler and the WWE never forced him to become one. He wrestled all over the world and in WCW long before he got to WWE. No one is to blame for what Benoit did but Benoit. He should never see the HOF and rightly so.

Bob Backlund deserves to be in the HOF.

 

[crossface for ever]

Saying that the WWE is partly to blame for what Benoit did is the dumbest(sorry not trying to be an ass) thing I have ever heard

I say WWE is partially to blame because as we all know Benoit had dementia of an 80 something year old man when he died. If the WWE took their stars health more seriously they would do scans to make sure this doesnt happen. Look at just a few weeks ago. Randy Orton had a diagnosed concussion, and was still expected to come right out and produce a lengthy promo on Raw. I think this is BS and is a huge reason guys like Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle jumped ship over to TNA. Vince doesnt care about the health of his stars only the money they can generate. That is unless they are Taker or HHH. Its because of this you dont see that many guys have the long runs in the business that they could.

 

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

I do agree that Savage deserved it before Koko but Koko got in because of his WHOLE BODY of work not just his WWE days.

Koko being in the HOF is a joke. It's like the NFL putting Jamarcus Russell in the hall of fame because his body of work in college football. Koko did not make the WWE a dollar. He should not even be in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Trill Co$by]

I say WWE is partially to blame because as we all know Benoit had dementia of an 80 something year old man when he died. If the WWE took their stars health more seriously they would do scans to make sure this doesnt happen. Look at just a few weeks ago. Randy Orton had a diagnosed concussion, and was still expected to come right out and produce a lengthy promo on Raw. I think this is BS and is a huge reason guys like Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle jumped ship over to TNA. Vince doesnt care about the health of his stars only the money they can generate. That is unless they are Taker or HHH. Its because of this you dont see that many guys have the long runs in the business that they could.

You need to do more medical research... for one, concussions aren't entirely serious unless it's diagnosed as a serious concussion. In fact, by definition, every time you get hit in the head you get a concussion. Orton's been medically cleared to work if he wants to and he does.

If Benoit had the pains and everything he did, then he could've easily taken up a different position. Finlay did, as did Jamie Noble... and a lot of veteran talent. It's not that hard to comprehend. Benoit's problems is based solely on Benoit and the sad part is that his bad choices led to two innocent lives being taken away. If Benoit ever makes it to the HOF then the whole thing will become a serious joke.

 

[Lachie Batista]

I say WWE is partially to blame because as we all know Benoit had dementia of an 80 something year old man when he died. If the WWE took their stars health more seriously they would do scans to make sure this doesnt happen. Look at just a few weeks ago. Randy Orton had a diagnosed concussion, and was still expected to come right out and produce a lengthy promo on Raw. I think this is BS and is a huge reason guys like Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle jumped ship over to TNA. Vince doesnt care about the health of his stars only the money they can generate. That is unless they are Taker or HHH. Its because of this you dont see that many guys have the long runs in the business that they could.

1 JEFF WENT OVER BECAUSE HE WAS SCREWED ON DRUGSVINCE DOSE CARE ABOUT HIS STARS WWE BEGGED EDGE TO GET MORE TEST AND HE DID AND FOUND OUT THAT ONE BAD MOVE COULD SERIOUSLY HURT HIM EVERYONE GIVE VINCE A BREAK HE DESERVES ALOT

 

[daddyJ_t]

savage should be a lock no doubt. other then that, i think undertaker will be maybe this year along with arn anderson, and hopefully the tag team of demoltion
sorry reread the op and saw who wont get there my bad. demolition i dont think will due to similair issues between ax and vince that was there between savage and vince. i dont see smash getting in as the repoman and i doubt he would accept as smash unless it was part of demolition with ax

 

[The Rich]

With Wrestlemania 28 being in Miami Florida, I would assume the logical main entry into the HOF would be The Rock. I bet this is what was originally planned, but with Savage's death, they may put him in, i doubt both of them will be inducted as they usually like to have at least one big name every year.

2012 - Macho Man
2013 - The Rock
2014 - Edge
2015 - Undertaker

 

[Azane]

Can you prove he wouldn't be put in to the 2012 HoF if he were still alive?

Everytime anything like that happens, everyone turns into an R-truth and conspiracies about capitalizing on someone's death.

Macho Man is iconic, he and Hulk Hogan are the personification of 80 + 90's wrestling when they used a wrestler's likeness in a cartoon they used one of 3, Hogan, Savage or random luchadore. He was working with vince more and more so we saw him being used on WWE products, who's to say that he wouldn't be in this class if he lived? should his death mean he get's pushed back on the other hand?

Benoit won't be in the HoF because he murdered his family. That's sort of something you're not supposed to do as a role model.

 

[UnhappyFan]

Bruno Sammartino: However he has been asked, but he keeps declining. Other than that Bob Backlund needs to be in the HOF before anyone else. He carried the company after Bruno and before Hogan. Personal problems aside WWWF didn't have anyone else other than him worthy enough to carry the title at the time.

He could of easily gone to the AWA and/or NWA and made just as much money he did with the WWWF. He chose to stick with the company and I think he deserves to be in the HOF because of it.

 

[RicoLen]

There's a lot of people that deserve to be in the WWE Hall of Fame.
Jake the Snake Roberts
The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith
Owen Hart
Jim the Anvil Neidhart
Edge
The Undertaker (sorry I know most guys are inducted after their career is over, but he's a living legend, and short of him going on a murderous rampage nothing will discredit him)
Mike Rotunda (Irwin R. Shyster)
Earthquake
Terry Taylor
Ray Traylor (The Big Bossman)
Yokozuna
The Ultimate Warrior
Razor Ramon
Diesel

However, no one, not a single one of them deserves it more than The Macho Man Randy Savage.

If you wanna talk about disrespectful, let's talk about the likelihood that Savage gets inducted along side Ms. Elizabeth. Cause let's face it, on the surface that makes perfect sense. Until you realize that Savage has left behind a widow, and seeing her husband inducted to the Hall of Fame with his ex-wife who (allegedly) cheated on him with Hogan is about as disrespectful to her as you can possibly get.

 

[Inittowinit]

With Wrestlemania 28 being in Miami Florida, I would assume the logical main entry into the HOF would be The Rock. I bet this is what was originally planned, but with Savage's death, they may put him in, i doubt both of them will be inducted as they usually like to have at least one big name every year.

2012 - Macho Man
2013 - The Rock
2014 - Edge
2015 - Undertaker

I think 2013 depends on where it is held. If it is held in Toronto like it has been rumored then Edge is a lock. I think 2012 can be both Savage and The Rock. If Savage hadn't passed then he is the headliner alone but since it would be posthumous then the Rock has an excellent shot of going in. While they are at it, induct Angelo Poffo also.

There's a lot of people that deserve to be in the WWE Hall of Fame.
Jake the Snake Roberts
The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith
Owen Hart
Jim the Anvil Neidhart
Edge
The Undertaker (sorry I know most guys are inducted after their career is over, but he's a living legend, and short of him going on a murderous rampage nothing will discredit him)
Mike Rotunda (Irwin R. Shyster)
Earthquake
Terry Taylor
Ray Traylor (The Big Bossman)
Yokozuna
The Ultimate Warrior
Razor Ramon
Diesel

However, no one, not a single one of them deserves it more than The Macho Man Randy Savage.

If you wanna talk about disrespectful, let's talk about the likelihood that Savage gets inducted along side Ms. Elizabeth. Cause let's face it, on the surface that makes perfect sense. Until you realize that Savage has left behind a widow, and seeing her husband inducted to the Hall of Fame with his ex-wife who (allegedly) cheated on him with Hogan is about as disrespectful to her as you can possibly get.

No way on Neidhart. Glorified tag team wrestler.
No way on Taylor unless you are talking the HOF of sexual harassers alledgedly.
They wont put Scott Hall in for the simple fact of his recent behavior. Once he gives himself a proven track record then yes.
The Undertaker will get in when he retires. Be patient.


Not to go on a rant about disrespectful but I think its disrespectful to not induct a guy who died in your ring but put in Eddie right away. Dont give me the Martha Hart angle because there are plenty of ways around that.

 

[Zeedeevel]

Koko being in the HOF is a joke. It's like the NFL putting Jamarcus Russell in the hall of fame because his body of work in college football. Koko did not make the WWE a dollar. He should not even be in the Hall of Fame.

Koko actually made the WWE quite a bit of money in the 80's. He sang the title track of Piledriver. They have much different styles, but as far as money making and being over with the fans Koko could be compared to Kofi Kingston. Now I am not saying Koko deserves to be in, I am just stating that he did make the WWE a lot of money.

On to the topic, we don't even know if Savage will be inducted this year, so for people to say that he had to die to be considered is asinine. Even if he is inducted this year, he and Vince were working together and on good terms before he died. His death was just really bad timing.

Oh and btw as much as I agree that Owen should be in, the only way around Martha Hart would be if she died. As long as she is alive, she has the rights to any way Owen's likeness or name is used.