Tiger Chaos Theory
You ain't drawin' shit!
Not a good Slyfox debate if you aren't calling him arrogant.
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- Thread starter Uncle Sam
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Glad to see you have me all figured out. Let's just ignore the fact that more often than not I make no mention of Orton and post plenty of places where Orton isn't in the conversation at all.
DirtyJosé;2901111 said:
It's almost as if it doesn't exist if I'm not insulting people's intelligence and getting called arrogant in return.
And who says the IWC isn't predictable?
Tiger Chaos Theory
You ain't drawin' shit!
Personally I think anyone entering a debate with you should just attack the quote in your sig.
And no one says that. Or maybe I'm just ignoring those post.
One thing I like about the WrestleZone Tournament is that it brings out the best in some of the more veteran posters here. Guys like Sly, D-Man, IC, and Sam make some truly awesome posts in the Tournament, especially when we get to the gimmick match stages. I normally read what these guys write anyway, but they're posts in the Tournament are particularly insightful and entertaining.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
I think I would have to go with Orton. He has been booked much stronger than Punk for like, 95% of his career.
DirtyJosé
Best angle of all: retirement
I have no shame in taking it on the chin when I'm wrong.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Good point.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Yeah, you post in other threads. Never said you didn't. However, you seem to be on some sort of crusade, and I find that strange. I feel the same way about John Cena as you do Randy Orton, but I don't go into every Cena thread, every LD, and non-stop bitch about the guy.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
This is a tough one. I like both of these guys, but it's too hot of a debate to just sit around and say nothing.
If I'm on a crusade I'm doing a pretty shitty job. It's not like I've ever started a thread complaining about the guy and pointing out his weak spots, and I don't go around looking to pick fights with Orton marks. In fact, I think you're the only Orton fan I've ever debated with regarding Randall and his professional wrestling ability. Sure, I voice my displeasure with him in LDs, but I have every right to. Furthermore, I don't shy away from admitting when he does something good. Hell, just earlier today I said that he and CM Punk are doing a good job with their feud.
Ever since you and I had one debate where I voiced extreme contempt for Orton's abilities (or lack their of) you seem to have boiled me down to nothing more than an Orton hater. We have discussed Orton a few times since, but I haven't been as critical as Orton in any of our discussions since then. So please, kindly stop acting like you know me.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Who said you didn't? The flip side of that coin would be me calling a dead horse, a dead horse. You beat that thing daily. Plenty of people throw criticism his way, and it doesn't bother me. But you're so aggressive, hateful and rude about it, that it actually does bother me. That's right, I just admitted something on a wrestling forum actually bothers me. I feel like such a trailblazer (it's all this Charlie Sheen press, I suppose).
Hulk Hogan's Brother
Stop asking me what I'm gonna do!!!
So when is the next round going up?
Hulk Hogan's Brother
Stop asking me what I'm gonna do!!!
BTW, has Hogan ever beaten Sting? I cannot seem to remember.
Not in a one on one match. Of course Sting obviously never faced a prime WWF Hogan
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
What? You're the guy who hates this wrestler so much, you can't admit his face turn was a result of being loved by the fans. You think he was so terrible at his job that the fans began to cheer when they were supposed to boo
That's the kind of smarky shit I'm talking about.Also, I know this is coming off like I dislike you, but I really don't.
His job was to be a heel and people started to cheer. You yourself said the cheers started before the face turn in question came to fruition. When a heel starts getting cheered it either means he's so good at what he does that the fans ignore their impulse to boo the bad guys and cheer for good guys (Austin) or they're doing a shitty job at getting heat.
And I'm still failing to see where I'm rude and especially aggressive. It's not as if I stalk Orton supporters from thread to thread waiting to pounce on them. Or do you think I do that?
And I'm still failing to see where I'm rude and especially aggressive. It's not as if I stalk Orton supporters from thread to thread waiting to pounce on them. Or do you think I do that?
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
The face turn started because of the cheers. Jesus, we're not having this debate again, are we?
Once again, you fail to realize the obvious. If his face reactions were a result of being terrible at what he was doing, WHY are they STILL cheering?
Do you look for individual posters to pounce on? No. But after reading each weeks LD, your name sticks out like a sore thumb. I don't care if you hate him, I'm just pointing out how often you feel the need to make that more than clear.
DirtyJosé
Best angle of all: retirement
So it went from a crusade to his LD posts? I'm not seeing it.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
DirtyJosé;2901801 said:
I'm not seeing what you're point is. In the context of what I'm saying, they're the same thing.
What I'm saying is he was bad at being a heel as evidenced by the fact he was getting cheers. Getting a face reaction as a heel is surely an undesirable outcome.
Oh, you were just pointing out that I don't like Orton? And here I thought you were calling me rude, aggressive, and hateful. I don't think you pointed out anything most people didn't already know, but thanks anyway.
So when it happened to Austin it was because he was that good but when it happens to Orton it's because he sucks? Orton was a top heel just a few years ago and didn't really change anything about the way he acted. He didn't forget how to be a heel, the crowd just decided they liked him.
