The Worst Raw of The Past Ten Years?

[ahoyhoy]

So... they throw away a year's worth of storylines in two hours. Punk shakes hands with a guy he doesn't get along with. Johnny Ace is given too much promo time and messes it up, with promises of more each week. VKM's return is wasted. Jomo is squashed yet again. The guys who return to the unsafe environment... do exactly what they walked away from. The main event is booked and then rebooked midmatch. The return of Awesome Truth was rushed. Faketista gets Zach Ryder's spot. JR was fired in his home town for what seemed the 10th time. Michael Cole was even more annoying than usual. The US champ is pinned clean for no reason. Triple H buries damn near everybody.

God damn I think I could go on forever about why this show sucked. If there was any momentum left from the Summer of Punk, it has all been wasted now. I'll guess I'll wikipedia the results to Vengeance. Maybe check Survivor Series, most probably not.

I wanted this to turn into something magical. Instead it was WCW circa Russo.

 

[keehlnate]

similar topic, same post.

Do you guys really expect that every show they put on will be according to your predictions? When Johnny Ace assigned as the GM then you got pissed off? Seriously? Then don't watch WWE anymore. Go watch Teletubbies, Spongebob Square Pants or any other kiddie show where every single episode is a win.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Really? In the past ten years? Seriously? That's a bit of an over exaggeration there isn't it? I mean you've got to really be able to stomach a lot to consider this the worst in ten years. What with Mike Adamle running around as GM, Vince McMahon's limo "exploding" on live television, the Kane/Katie Vick storyline... this Raw... THIS exact episode is the one that sticks out as the worst in the past ten years?

If this is what you consider to be the worst Raw, then I'd hate to see what you think is the best.

If anything, this Raw was one of the most well thought out Raws in recent weeks. WWE has now created the ultimate heel in John Laurinitis for the simple fact that he just took not only Triple H's job but Vince's job as well... and not only that, but he fired JR, brought back Miz and Truth, and completely proved that he was in fact power hungry. Not only that, but they've found a way to finally tie up loose ends and get everything on track for Survivor Series, it seems.

I don't know if you're just bitter, a troll, or if you just are new to wrestling but this Raw is far from being the "worst in 10 years"... I mean for crying out loud, we sat through that horrid Show/Edge/Guerrero love triangle that for some reason had John Cena in it... and we sat through the New Nexus storyline, along with a lot of other bull crap that wasn't really worth the time.

 

[ahoyhoy]

Jesus, yes Teletubbies is the standard WWE are trying to live up to.

I'm asking for something competent. Not even something amazing. Something competent.

Oh and I said I won't be watching WWE anymore, so... how are you trying to zing me with saying I shouldn't? When it finished I signed up and put my money down for a year of ROH tv.

Johnny Ace has BAD HEAT. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near TV. But of course he was going to be Raw GM. I mean just because it could have been Steph, or Nash, or Foley, or Vince again, or JR, or just about anyone with more charisma doesn't mean that the show couldn't have been a 'win'. They could have announced Johnny Ace and still had it be a good show.

But really? Why shouldn't you hope for every episode to be a win? Seriously? Your standards are so low that you don't mind if every episode sucks?

SLS - I'm not new to wrestling, and I've seen many a bad show. Maybe it is because my expectations were lower in 2008 than they are now after the Punk stuff that I think this was worse.

Vince's limo explosion was pretty horrible though.

 

[HorsemenNo4]

similar topic, same post.

Do you guys really expect that every show they put on will be according to your predictions? When Johnny Ace assigned as the GM then you got pissed off? Seriously? Then don't watch WWE anymore. Go watch Teletubbies, Spongebob Square Pants or any other kiddie show where every single episode is a win.

This has nothing to do with predictions. Most people saw this coming even though we all hoped it wouldn't. This isn't a matter of heels or faces, it's a matter of someone who shouldn't be on TV. He sounds like he smoked 100 cigarettes before the show, he can't act, can't work the crowd and has 0 personality.
Besides, there was plenty of other things wrong with RAW too.

P.S. Not everyone on here is a little kid. Keep your trolling and unfunny smartass remarks to yourself.

 

[#hamler]

Last ten years? Fuck that. There have been worse.

I'm not saying Raw was a phenomenal show, but you can definitely tell they're going somewhere with this. Triple H didn't bury anyone, John Morrison can go fuck himself, and the superstars walked out because of Triple H and returned when he was forced to step down - not hard to follow. This isn't Russo/WCW shit and if you would take your head out of your ass you'd see that. Yes, Raw could have been better but so could your reasons for this being the worst Raw in the last ten fucking years.

 

[metalbass]

similar topic, same post.

Do you guys really expect that every show they put on will be according to your predictions? When Johnny Ace assigned as the GM then you got pissed off? Seriously? Then don't watch WWE anymore. Go watch Teletubbies, Spongebob Square Pants or any other kiddie show where every single episode is a win.

Sorry but Spongebob sucks and the Teletubbies are a toddler's version of peyote-induced hysteria. Save for the first 20 minutes this show absolutely fell flat.

I'm not too pissed that John Laurinaitis ended up getting the GM role, but the presentation was garbage. Everything was thrown together with no sense. Kayfabe was broken for the sense of changing direction.

While the WWE can pick up the pieces on later shows, they should have known that their storyline over the past few months was a very risky approach and now they are seemingly trying to cover their ass for going too far.

 

[keehlnate]

But really? Why shouldn't you hope for every episode to be a win? Seriously? Your standards are so low that you don't mind if every episode sucks?

Of course not. Who the hell would watch if every episode sucks?

My point is if every episode of RAW is a WIN, the show would just become stale and pretty boring. Much like those kiddie shows. There should be times that they should insert bad episodes to get a pretty good show in the long run.

Johnny Ace is in the TV for quite some time now so it just make sense that he is the main focus of the conspiracy storyline. I don't see a reason why or who he should be replaced with. Although he is labeled as 'interim' RAW GM. Zero personality? That might be the case, but for me he is doing a good job.

 

[metalbass]

Also to add... the worst in 10 years? No. I think that would go to the Mark Henry/Mae Young pregnancy with Mae Young eventually giving birth to a hand.

 

[wrestlingfanusa]

Lol, yes he does sound like he swallowed and choked on a whole bunch of cigarettes or cigars better yet. That guy if he ever got fired from wwe could be the spokesperson for big tobacco. I have to admit though, i loved cm punk doing commentary/timekeeper/everything else. It was kinda amusing for a few minutes there, kinda sad when it stopped.

As for the worst episode of raw, no that one will always be the one where john cena spraypainted jbl is poopy on jbl's limo. That one or the one where he mocked the great khali's voice. I rather watch this raw ten times before i have to watch either one of those again.

 

[HamSwissman]

It sucked, no doubt. I'd put it right up there with the last few weeks as being some of the worst in a long time, but not in the last ten years. The period from pre-MITB through SummerSlam was some really good shit, even though the Punk angle was rushed. Then, in typical "WWE Bubble" fashion, they throw away everything they had going and just say "fuck it, let's make everything about Triple H". Goddammit, I really thought their ******edness was wavering a bit. Was the writer they fired a little while back the only one with any fucking sense?

 

[zephyrs]

The entire idea of the wrestlers "striking" due to having to perform in an unsafe work environment made no sense.

In my opinion it knocked everyone down a peg, save for Punk, Cena, Sheamus, etc.

Vince's return was anti-climactic to say the least. I didn't care, and apparently the crowd didn't either.

There was no surprise to Laurinaitis being announced as the GM.

JR no-selling his firing made no sense. He just got out of the ring, shook Lawler's hand, grabbed his shit, and left.

Bottom line, the entire show felt flat for me, and wasn't worth the time I spent watching it.

 

[Fireball93]

Was I the only one who actually enjoyed this Raw? The intro itself was absolutely awesome. I love it when it has a personal feel and you see less character and more real life person. The matches were quite good and I felt they accomplished a lot. I don't understand how you could feel that they threw out a years worth of storylines. This is a new storyline. Everyone holds on to the past, but this is completely new. This week felt like a new season of a show had started and last week was the cliffhanger to end the season. Yeah I didn't like Morrison losing again but it happens. It's wrestling. That's the way it's supposed to be. You complained about so much happening and things getting rushed, except they only have 2 hours. Less than 2 with commercials. If some people would just accept it's a soap opera for men (that I am damn proud to love) then we wouldn't have annoying comments and persistent complaining. You want a better Raw? Change your sulky attitude and you'll see it was an entertaining show.

 

[Headman]

I'll agree with the OP that this was a pretty bad episode of RAW. I'm not going to say the worst in 10 years, but it was IMO a pretty boring show. It got off to an interesting start, but after the first commercial break things just went down hill and never recovered. And the random ass main event had me wondering if the writers never returned from the walk out. It was just a bad, bad show.

 

[BASSER911414]

Firstly the unsafe environment crap made no sense whatsoever. Safe environment. In the WWE really. And 30 wrestlers are afraid of miz and r truth. I get being afraid of mark henry but apparently he was on strike too. That made NO SENSE whatsoever. It would have made more sense if they went on strike simply out of dislike for HHH.

Secondly, this raw sucked. We all knew either johnny ace or vkm would take HHHs position but so bluntly ?? VKMs return was too rushed. I thought he was relieved of duty and now hes out there announcing that laryngitis is the new GM. Then u have zero reaction frm JR for being fired. I liked the fact that miz and truth were rehired but after the ending to raw last week this week fell flat..

Also a shout out to the dumbasses who thought the man behind the scenes and conspiracy was the undertaker. I still cant forget it. Still think that.

 

[The Champ]

These kinds of ridiculous overexaggerations are exactly why wrestling promoters don't take internet fans seriously.

Was Raw a disappointment? Yes. I expected them to try some unorthodox things to fill the two hours with a very limited roster, and it was something that I thought would be incredibly fun to watch. We got off to a great start with the Cena vs. Sheamus match, but then it went downhill when they rushed the resolution and then Raw returned to the status quo for the remaining hour and a half. Basically, they messed up a chance to do something that had literally never been done; put on a show with five wrestlers and no referees or announcers. They were too lazy to put effort into that idea and instead backtracked almost immediately, making all the hype for the walkout over the past week pointless.

Also, don't even get me started on how much of a boring douche Johnny Ace is and how pissed off I was that WWE decided to humiliate Jim Ross for no reason yet again. But with all that said, Raw still had a few good moments and was in no way the worst of the last ten years. There have been MUCH worse episodes. When you find one that did not have one single redeeming quality, you can put that label on it. At the very least, the storyline progressed in a somewhat logical way.

 

[Azane]

I knew Lauranitis was going to take power the 2nd scene he showed up, no surprise, no idea how anyone couldn't of seen it coming.

Awesome Truth are kind of being thrown around, but I give them the benefit of the doubt, they're too mainstream right now to keep off the show for a while.

Mason Ryan is going to be a World Champion. Flame as you want, he's following Batista's path more than just look wise, he's going to be pushed regardless of his experience or skill, simply because he looks like a World Champion.

Michael Cole being annoying is his job, he's supposed to make you hate him, it make's the other announcers look so much more Lawful Good.

Rebooking the Main Event is a normal wrestling device, it's been done 100's of times. Why does it matter so much here? you basically got a 2for1 main even, especially with the run over going deep.

Trips burying people.... You know, 10 years ago, it was called elevating one self. I guess the times changed, where the top superstars can't look good. HHH had 1 match with punk in which he looked incredibly strong in, but if you missed that one match, HHH looks like a useless suit since Wrestlemania, so they need to keep him relevant, and make him look like a badass to setup his feuds.

Worst Raw ever? This Raw was pretty good, it had storyline advancement, major announcements, was a bit overhyped, but they even secretly gave a bump to Occupy Wall Street (please don't take this to a political debate.). You got to see Both World Champions, and Both midcard champions compete, you got to see RKO vs Mark Henry 7.

You've missed some of the go home shows that were basically an hour and half commercial for the ppv with only 1 or 2 matches (Wasn't there a RAW with 0 matches sometime in the past 10 years, or am I thinking of a Smackdown?)

Nevermind, it was the worst RAW ever because the Heels I like because the internet tells me to like them didn't win.

I wanted to see a 2 hour Ironman match between Sheamus and Cena with HHH Ref, and Punk commentating. WWE screwed up my dream.

 

[goukuma]

i actually enjoyed this episode of RAW immensely and i have been for for awhile. im just not a cynical jaded prick like some of you seem to be. worst RAW of 10 years? not even conceivably close. that title clearly goes to the whole KANE/LITA/SNITSKY storyline. that was the only time i ever questioned watching RAW again.

 

[The_Sharpshooter]

Worse episode? Nah. One episode I can think of that was worse was CM Punk's "Faith" episode with the new Nexus. Spends the day making his lackies beat each other up, then acts like he was gonna throw himself off the TitanTron. What was I supposed to take from this?

But an extremely disappointing episode. 2 things I enjoyed from this episode:
1. Opening Segment: Triple H looked like a man struggling to hold onto his company until 3 of his top workers decided to have his back(wasnt Orton & Big Show supposed to support him as well?)

2. Jack Swagger gut wrenching JoMo & powerbombing Bourne. Even looked really hurt, hope he's ok. But Swagger is primetime, more than Ziggler to me. They let him show out in his homestate, even let his music play after the Morrison beatdown. Good shit

But the show came to end with the cliffhanger from last week solved & forgotten, & we get the tag team of Punk/Levesque vs. Miz/Truth at Vengeance? Sounds like a random tag match that happens on Raw the day after the PPV. Nash better bring Michaels, DDP, Buff Bagwell, & Scott Norton to interfer if they think they're get another 50 out of me.

 

[iamthegame]

This has nothing to do with predictions. Most people saw this coming even though we all hoped it wouldn't. This isn't a matter of heels or faces, it's a matter of someone who shouldn't be on TV. He sounds like he smoked 100 cigarettes before the show, he can't act, can't work the crowd and has 0 personality.
Besides, there was plenty of other things wrong with RAW too.

P.S. Not everyone on here is a little kid. Keep your trolling and unfunny smartass remarks to yourself.

Can't work the crowd? I may be going deaf but Ace has been getting the absolute shit boo'd out of him everytime he goes out to ring or is in a promo. From my understanding of wrestling, that would make him a good 'heel', correct?

As for the topic, dude if u could have written it any better then you would be on the WWE payroll as a writer. If you don't want to watch it anymore because you're a little upset about RAW then don't. All this crap I read about fans slowly boycotting WWE or 'WWPGE' as they call it is absolute rubbish. Stop posting WWE related things if you hate it so much, go and watch TNA and enjoy getting your tits and ass there because you obviously don't get it in real life if it means that much to you.

 

[prestonluv]

I just think the OP feels let down. Thats how i kind of feel. After the ending to Raw last week i was really excited about this weeks Raw. The first 30 minutes were great and it kept me very interested thinking how this will keep going.

Even when Vince came out i thought it still might be good...but then it faded into your typical Raw. I was expecting something new and quite frankly was left with a somewhat bitter taste.

Its an ongoing problem with WWE programming the last few years. They build a potentially great angle only to lack the depth in storywriting to follow up. This comes from a lack of quality competition. Until this happens you will continue to see this false front of greatness.

I mean the best long term angle this year has been the Rock vs Cena. This is ridiculous as the only reason this angle was not rushed is that the Rock is a part timer at best.

Bottom line is that storywriting lacks depth because of the lack of competition. From the Nexus to CM Punk to this Boycott the writers have failed us. Sad really...i would pipe more money into PPVs if they developed some more long term emotional feuds.

 

[Mercer the Ruthless]

So... they throw away a year's worth of storylines in two hours. Punk shakes hands with a guy he doesn't get along with.

First of all, a years worth of storylines? You realize that this storyline didn't really come to a head til SummerSlam right? Granted it technically started after MitB.

Johnny Ace is given too much promo time and messes it up, with promises of more each week. VKM's return is wasted.

Yeah Ace was given too much time he's basically lifeless on the mic and robotic a T-800 has more life than he does. Was VKM's return wasted? Are you 100 percent sure it's over with?

Jomo is squashed yet again.

It's a shame but it would seem that way.

The guys who return to the unsafe environment... do exactly what they walked away from.

That was the point of their hypocrisy and their farce "solidarity movement" amongst other things, whats' your point?

The main event is booked and then rebooked midmatch. The return of Awesome Truth was rushed. Faketista gets Zach Ryder's spot.

I agree that was very sloppy by WWE and quite embarrassing from an execution standpoint. I also agree they should have booked overtime while they were making so changes, however, I think that had to do with booking as much as it did with timing. The Mason Ryan/Ryder debacle is the one thing I am up-in-arms over WWE cannot seem to stay focused on promoting Ryder, he pinned the US Champ twice and yes Ryan had something to do with that but WHY ALLOW HIM TO TAKE WHAT SHOULD OBVIOUSLY BE RYDER'S PLACE? It's stupid, no other way to say it.

JR was fired in his home town for what seemed the 10th time. Michael Cole was even more annoying than usual.

Cheap heat easy, it worked People already Hate Laurenitis because of what Punk said in his shoot Promo so now he has more heat because of what he did to JR and because he's boring.

The US champ is pinned clean for no reason. Triple H buries damn near everybody.

Didn't actually see that, for no reason? I don't get that. Triple H can bury people by stating crap that the IWC and others had been saying? Come on... learn and burnish the meaning of term "bury" and/or "buried" into your head; he buried no one in that case no one will be on RAW again next week everyone will lose in a draw.

God damn I think I could go on forever about why this show sucked. If there was any momentum left from the Summer of Punk, it has all been wasted now. I'll guess I'll wikipedia the results to Vengeance. Maybe check Survivor Series, most probably not.

Useless whining, we don't come here for that do it in the comment section of Wrestlezone.

I wanted this to turn into something magical. Instead it was WCW circa Russo.

Exaggeration, at it's lowest moment it wasn't that bad.

Okay, I agree with some of what you said but the other part just sounds like whinny mumbo-jumbo I've been hearing in the IWC as of late. Definitely this show could have been better, if they had done certain things different; took out the BS segments, added a few more matches (maybe two) and asked USA for an additional 15 or 20 minutes since they did it with The Rock (I know that was The Rock but it's best to get what you want done in the show done with out sacrificing or rushing anything) RAW would have been better.

 

[Deardro]

Ok. Fist

this RAW was awful. After the first 20 mins, I went and had a smoke. Came back and the cena/sheamus match was already over and they were letting everyone back in who said they wouldn't 'compete' because it was unsafe. Here is were I turned and said 'seriously, WTF'.


Second

Those same guys come out and attack JoMo after christian already beat him in what seemed to be a 'divas' style match. I saw a couple botched moves and it seemed like everything was just thrown in there at last minute and they were doing whatever they wanted. really? JoMo going for his knee strick right away, Christian botching a 'roll up' then being thrown to the apron where he is superplexed and then spears john. totally bad. THEN swagger, dolph and cody attack Morrison and hit their finishers.

Third

The Henry/orton match. i really am getting tired of seeing both these guys wrestle eachother. every single smackdown or Raw, there is Orton vs Henry. they are killing their feud more then ever. have one or both of them face a different guy each week up until the ppv and the one before it have them beat each other up. and the whole' cody rhoades attacking orton thing'? i saw it coming WAy before it happened. WWE is getting lazy with their shit. Just throwing any old thing in there to make it 'shocking'.

forth

Divas match. Everything was botched. I i mean EVERYTHING, and kelly screaming during the whole freaking thing made it unbearable to watch. Did anyone else see when kelly went for the handspring elbow? She hit rosa with her feet first, THEN stopped, looked and hit her with her elbow. But what do you expect when WWE picks Divas with GIANT 'puppies' instead of haveing skills.

Fifth

The backstage segments were crap. Though i have to saw, for what i saw of it, I liked the six person tag match. It's really good to see then using Mason Ryan for a couple weeks in a row instead of sticking with the regular old guys. And I like Ryans new finisher. it seems to suit him well.

and finally

The 'MAIN EVENT'

Ugg, where do i start? Punk vs Rio for the first like 10 minutes, then comes out John and tells everyone it's a tag match. And then POOF miz and truth come back. They are so boring to watch, Miz can't take a hit for crap and truth tries to make everything go so fast. its like watching the killers bees vs demolition. All the killer bees did was beat on one member of demolition at a time and when they got hit, didn't even show a thing. Anyway, then del rio has a 'fake' injury and leaves Punk to defend himself against both miz and truth. if WWE didn't have such a sucky writing staff tonight, they could have booked this match better. like, instead of having the main event be a singles THEN a tag match, have it as punk and rio vs a mystery team and return truth/miz that way. because EVERYONE saw it coming. OHH and the 'best part' triple h making the save. Running off miz and truth. really WWE, THATS a GREAT way to give two guys who have 'returned' momentum. 'lets have HHH come out and beat the returning team up and make them look weak as hell'. They could of had them win over punk and rio by pinning rio after a 'heel' move or something. THEN have HHH attack them from behind then have punk and rio beat them up. Would still make them look strong by having a win over the champ by pinfal, and not look bad for being over powered by three guys.

After i saw this whole episode. i wanted to cry, seriously. I thought it was awful other then the first match and the six person tag. But everything else felt like it was just go as you want. Overall a D+ rated show, not F worthy because they at least tried to make it seem good. And to be honost, I would have sat and watched a 1 hour Cena vs Sheamus iron man match and then a Punk vs HHH iron man match. Because even that, would have been MUCh better then what they did. i mean, in the old AWA and WWWF days, they would hold those types of matches all the time and people would still sit and watch because its.............WRESTLING. Not cry baby crap. Soo, with all this being said, i shall watch more RAW to see what happens from here on, but another night like this and I'll most likely just read the results on here.

 

[HBK_EDGE]

So much exaggeration going on in this thread it is ridiculous. Now I didn't love Raw and sure they kind of dropped the ball on what started off with a lot of potential but it was still an O.K. episode

What I liked:

Opening was great up until VKM came out that is one of the best segments that has been on Raw in years. I will go as far as to say the best segment to open Raw in at least the last 5 years. (sure Im forgetting some good ones)

Laranitus getting the job. For a temporary time it could be a good short fix to help push across certain SLs

The seeds being planted for the group with Christian leading and Ziggler, Swagger and a few others being in a stable with Vickie.

The set up of a Cody Rhodes Orton feud. The whole Henry Orton match and the aftermath was all well done.

The fact that there will be a Miz/Truth vs Cm Punk HHH tag team match.


What I didn't like:

Vince's return making no impact. Anytime Vince comes in he should make a huge impact on the show. The fact that he is an errand boy for the board of directors is just silly and hard to believe. Vince with no power does nothing for me personally. Power is what has always made him a good on screen character.

Divas match. Kelly Kelly has to over sale everything and it just looks bad.

Not giving the idea of the doing the whole show with 4 guys a little more time. I know they didn't want to put Cena over Shameus or the other way around and having a DQ would be next to impossible so they brought Vince out, but the idea was so damn promising. I believe it would of fell flat after a while and would of been hard to keep going for 2 hours but it deserved a little more than it got.

WWE always plugging twitter. I love twitter and follow a lot of wrestlers and tweet a lot. But WWE refers to twitter just entirely too much. Stop making it so obvious you are trying to make things trend and always talking about it after it happens. Just put on a good show and everything else will take care of itself.

The entire Main Event was poorly executed. First off changing the main event mid match was just dumb to me.Sure it has been done before I just don't like it.
Del Rio taking himself out of the match. I know he is suppose to be a chicken shit heel but these guys just beat the ever living shit out of him 8 days ago and he doesn't want a little bit of revenge?

Lastly my biggest problem and haven't seen anyone mention it kind of goes with what I was saying about the Main Event above.The way they brought back Miz and Truth (glad their back just hate how it was done) Why not bring them back in a dramatic way. Have Punk and Del Rio continue their one on one match. Del Rio pulls the same scam and Punk is in the ring alone when Miz and Truth hit the ring and attack him with HHH coming in and everyone fighting except have Miz and Truth brutally beat both Punk and HHH. Then next week have them be reinstated and the tag match setup. I just think it is more dramatic and sets up next week better doing it this way.

I will give the WWE credit I believe they are going to get to a great place and set up a great Survivor Series the road was just a bit bumpy tonight.

 

[klipz.nbd]

I agree the show kinda sucked. They had some good idea's and segments but it was all delivered horribly rushed. The impact of Vince returning, J.L. getting GM, and heck even Miz/Truth returning all didn't have the surprise and shock effect they should have.

While I don't think it was the worst in 10 years, it was really bad and definitely one of the worst since MITB.