The John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks

I want to say two things before I state my opinion on the Kennel from Hell match. First of all, I want to say that I’m not even going to go into a Damien Demento style rant because then I will probably go on forever about how much the Kennel from Hell sucked and why it was a horrible match. Hey Tenta, maybe you should feature Damien; I probably would have to say a lot about him. Second of all, I don’t want for anyone to think I am disrespecting Ray Traylor (otherwise known as the Big Boss Man in case you didn’t know) because I would never in no way, shape, or form disrespect someone who is dead.

First of all, I want to say something about the storyline before I ever get into the actual match. The storyline wasn’t good to begin with. It was rather obvious that their feud was bound to fail do to the storyline being something that no one in a million years would ever believe. Who actually believes that Boss Man killed a dog and then fed the dog to his rival? Isn’t that illegal anyways?

The Kennel from Hell match was just a big waste. I still to this day don’t understand what the point of the Hell in a Cell being used for this match was. It’s not like the dogs were ever let go by the handlers during the match, so why would they need another Cell to make sure the dogs didn’t do anything. As a matter of fact, the fact that the dogs could attack at any moment would have been more believable without the Hell in a Cell. If they decided to escape from the original cage, then the dogs would have been waiting right there. With the Hell in a Cell added to the equation, it just meant that they could climb the original cage and then jump to the Cell and escape that way. It just meant it was easier for them to escape with the Cell right there, and it made it rather obvious that the dogs weren’t going to get the chance to attack (I’m sure the dogs would have never attack anyway, but I’m also sure a lot of the kids watching would have thought otherwise).

Another reason the match sucked was because of who was involved in it. The two men in the match were not the worst, but they also weren’t the best either. The only thing the two will ever be remembered for was for one of them carrying a head around and the other one for having a Hell in a Cell match with The Undertaker at Wrestlemania and for being hanged from the cell. Anyways, when you have two mediocre wrestlers wrestling each other, you’re not going to have the most entertaining match. That was the case here. They put two wrestlers who weren’t all that good in a match, and it was bound to fail because neither one of them was any good to begin with. They didn’t put on an entertaining match, and that’s what this match will be remembered for. A horrible match that wasn’t entertaining at all.

The only two things that could have made this match work was if it was at the slightest believable that the dogs might attempt to do something to the wrestlers and if they had actually pitted two wrestlers who were at least somewhat entertaining and could put on an entertaining and decent match, or at least someone who could get a decent match out of Al Snow. Since they didn’t do that, it was bound to fail.
 
Great point all around, Savage.

And you know what was more confounding about the situation? The WWE actually gave the BBM a push to the main event after that, going upon his feud with The Big Show, which will probably earn himself a slot here again aoon enough. What does it really show the fans when a guy can't get the win over Al Snow... Yet three months later, he's challenging for The WWE Title? Again, it's just booking you really can't begin to defend.

Savage, you're absolutely right, but I'm not sure exactly how many workers can make this sort of thing work. Remember Earthquake and Jake Roberts? Those two basically did the same thing, and yet when they performed this angle, most people shot that one down, as well. I think when you get to the point when you feed someone their own pet, it come to the point of no return. And thus, I don't care who you are, this gimmick had absolutely no chance of working
 
Ahh, the Kennel in a Cell match. One of the dumbest ideas the WWF ever trotted out on camera, and a match that has supplied me with endless laughter over the last decade.

I think probably the best (or worst) thing about this match is the dogs themselves. Look at them. Some are pissing and shitting, a few others are playing around like they were adorable puppies, and if I'm not mistaken two of the dogs even began fornicating off-camera. Could they not shell out a bit extra money for trained dogs? Hilarious.

That said, the match is entertainment at it's finest, mainly because of just how absurd it is. I absolutely love the entire Snow-Bossman feud from the summer of '99, obviously it was shit, but my god was it entertaining. Pepper was great.

Keep it up here Tentzilla, this is an amazing thread and I applaud you for putting so much work into it. Really entertaining stuff. The only reason I haven't contributed more to it is that the epicness of your posts leaves me not wanting to respond unless I have something really good to contribute. Great stuff man.
 
You know, I never actually understood why they decided to give The Big Bossman a title shot at The Big Show’s WWE title. They had a couple of guys who were considered feasible challengers for the title yet they gave a title shot to The Big Bossman, someone who in my opinion was never a feasible challenge for a World Title in the WWE and in any promotion for that matter. I guess you can say that Bossman was somewhat the real winner in the end because he was the one who moved on to better things. After that match all Al Snow did was team up with Mick Foley and do nothing of importance.

One more thing I want to say is that the circumstances were way different when they did the thing with Earthquake feeding Jake Robert’s snake to Lord Alfred Hayes. Back then a lot of the people watching wrestling were still kids so obviously it was something that had a chance to work, even though it didn’t. When they did the same thing again 8 years later it was bound to fail because a lot of the people watching were also the same people who had seen it happen earlier.
 
Ah, X, I must say, I'm very glad to see you in this thread. I would wish that you always present more opinions in this thread, and who knows, you'll probable be able to add more than I can. Savage has been able to throw quite a few bones into this discussusion that have proved most helpful indeed.

Anyway, I completely agree with the dog notion. Isn't half of the theory that the dogs will be rabid, and Al's going to get his revenge on BBM via these dogs? Isn't that the poetic justice you look for in these matches, and the storylines. I'd like to at least see BBM get bit at least once, yet for the sake of the storyline. Pepper was, indeed, awesome, but then again, he had run his course. Then again, this was a bit too far to do to him.

Savage, I never thought of it, but you're absolutely right. I never considered it that way, but that does have a lot to do with Tenta and Roberts working. But I also feel it has to do with Tenta and Jake being far better workers than either Snow or the Boss Man at this point. I just feel it was poor workers, and the inability to carry out a good match make it extremely difficult to perform
 
Don’t get me wrong, if it had worked in 1991, it would have been because both Tenta and Jake Roberts were good wrestlers too. As a matter of fact they were better than Snow and Bossman. If you watch matches of all 4 of them today and compare them, someone would have thought Roberts and Tenta are as good as Bret Hart and Kurt Angle. I don’t know if you might understand my analogy but what I am trying to say is that compared to Al and Bossman, Tenta and Roberts were far superior wrestlers, like Bret and Angle are to a lot of wrestlers. I feel both Tenta and Roberts are vastly underrated, but I don’t think if the storyline had originally worked it would have been only because they were great wrestlers. I think it would have been majorly because of the time periods and eras, Tenta and Roberts being good wrestlers would have just added more to the whole storyline. Meaning, since Al and Bossman weren’t good wrestlers they obviously couldn’t have made the match work. When you put two bad workers in a ring it’s just bound to be a bad match.

Let’s say Bret Hart would have agreed to a match like that, the match would have at least been decent. Bret could get a good match out of basically anyone. For god’s sake, he probably gave Skinner one of the best matches in his entire career. If he could make Skinner look good in a match, then I reckon he could get a good match out of Al Snow, something Bossman could never do.

Also, one thing I forgot to add in is the fact that by the time the Kennel from Hell match happened, the kids were a small minority of the people watching wrestling. Like I said in my other post, a lot of the people watching were the same people who watched during the early 90’s. Now, a lot of those adults and teenagers would have never believed that one of the wrestlers is actually going to get bit by the dogs. It would have been nice if one of them got bit to add more to the match. But since it didn’t happen, the dogs were basically useless in that match. They were just there to bark, piss, shit, fornicate, e.t.c.
 
Hello, again, friends and spammers alike, and welcome to the barely attempted, easily duplicated, John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, if this was like the History of Cinema, this would be where they kept films like Space Jam, Kazaam, From Justin to Kelly, and The Hottie and the Nottie. For one day, we tried to get The Nostalgia Critic to do reviews for the exhibits you’re about to witness, but he feared that if he had to see any more of the matches in these archives, his head would explode. So, unfortunately, you’re left with me, and all of my infinite knowledge of all that is the shits of wrestling. You would probably rather be locked in a cell with a horny gorilla than have to go through these miscarriages of wrestling history. This has officially been deemed worse than listening to Yanni on loop, while on a date with Kenny G, and having The NorCal take photos of you, to post on forums. Yet once again, we hope that you learn a valuable lesson by risking your sanity to enter these archives, and that lesson is simple; promoters really are the biggest fuck ups you will ever meet in your life. Even a man like Vince McMahon, a guy that most of us consider a genius, and perhaps the best promoter in professional wrestling, is prone to throwing out horrendous ideas, that all just lead to one big huge massive pile of fail. It just goes to show you that, no matter what promotion you’re going to, there will always be a heavy dose of illogical characters, storylines, and other atrocities that, at times, make us feel embarrassed to be a wrestling fan. And thank God for those wrestling fans, because without them, I’d probably have to go out to the other forums, and would probably have to post much more about wrestling. However, I’ve chosen to give my life to examining all that is bad about professional wrestling. And though it seems a fate far worse than torture, I bring these travesties against mankind to your awareness, simply to warn you of the sheer evil that professional wrestling promoters are capable of. And maybe, just maybe, if we can show the true ugly side to wrestling, someone will listen, and we’ll never have to be subjected to this sort of torture again. I mean, Hell, I haven’t seen a really bad WWE gimmick recently, and I haven’t seen a decent wrestler buried by a bad gimmick in the last…

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… Let’s just move on, before I get even more pissed. *Sigh*… God damn it, Vince, you just never learn, do you? Let’s just get this abortion of an induction started. Yester day, we discussed the infamous Kennel from Hell match, and all of the nonsense that went into the feud between the Big Boss Man and Al Snow. And, thankfully, we’re going back to the Hogan Era for this next induction, in which kayfabe asked us to completely suspend our belief, and to accept gimmicks for what they were. Unfortunately, for this next inductee into the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks, there was absolutely no way that we could get on board with this gimmick whatsoever.

Anyway, for today’s induction, we’re talking about Voodoo.

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You know… That song is so fucking epic. If I could, I would be done with this induction right now, and I’d just listen to this song for about a good hour or so. It is really that epic. Anyway, but a concept like Voodoo, in the wrong hands, can be a horrendous thing. There’s just something about the dark arts that we just don’t understand, and somehow, this dark sort of arts have developed almost a cult following amongst some. I suppose when one really considers it, placing curses on your enemies is a somewhat cool concept, and the idea of being able to control people by the mere movement of a doll has a bit of an epic nature to it. And, for that matter, Vince has a pretty decent track record when it comes to basing gimmicks off of mysticism, and magic. Giving wrestlers a supernatural power, though it does not occur often, seems to be a lasting thing for Vince McMahon, and tends to do a decent job at getting a wrestler over. Though we may dislike the idea of magic in our pro wrestling, Vince hands it to the fans, and to the fans credit, they gobble it up. Note the Boogeyman: That gimmick had absolutely no business lasting six months in professional wrestling. Yet the man that created it, Marty Wright, rode that worm infested train for a good four months, even involving himself in feuds with the likes of Booker T, JBL, Finlay, and even got a shot or two at the ECW Championship. Hey, say what you want about that belt, but it was far more than anyone could have assumed he was capable of, especially when one considers that Marty was well into his forties by the time the gimmick started. This was a Tough Enough reject, and Vince gave him a career for about four years with that damn gimmick. For some reason, when Vince crosses that line into the supernatural, we start to enjoy it.

As a matter of fact, any chance that we can have to cross that supernatural line seems fun to us. Consider a ride like The Haunted Mansion at Disney. The ride itself is extremely brittle, it’s antediluvian, and it really isn’t even that fun, when one considers it. Shit, it’s traveling around a dark house for about ten minutes, while some props jump up every now and then, and “ghosts” hover above you. Color me thrill. Still, people flock that ride every day, leaving a line that can last between a good hour or two. And I should know, because… Well, I’ve been in that one hour fucking line way too many times for my own good. I’m just as fascinated as anyone else, and really want to know the understandings of the supernatural. Alas, the supernatural is best discussed in the Cigar Lounge (hmmm…), but there’s no denying that we like crossing the supernatural. We also go absolutely bat shit for magic. There’s no way to explain it, because we all know that its complete bull shit when it’s performed, yet we’re still so fixated when it actually happens. A good magician gets us to suspend our belief, and really make us believe that they have, indeed, conquered all of the dark arts. And if that is the case in our society, to say our next inductee failed to get us to suspend our disbelief is about as ludicrous as saying this gimmick got over. This gimmick would become the grand pappy of gimmicks such as The Boogeyman and Damien Demento (I think he may be coming soon as an exhibit… That is, if Demento won’t do a rant on me on the fucking internet), and was one of the first to also include magic into his actual matches. Filled with dark powers, this sinister man debuted in The WWE with plenty of fanfare. But, when it was all said and done, the gimmick wound up being an absolute bust, and a first ballot inductee into the JTMFTG, to be sure. And alas, here we are tonight, to pay homage to one of the absolute worst gimmicks in the history of the WWE;

Papa Shango

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What Was It: Now, as has become customary here, before we actually begin to go into the gimmick, I feel it's only fair to go into the actual wrestler, just to prove that the man actually had some sort of a career, before the gimmick we're inducting absolutely crippled it. However, actually, what's funny about this wrestler, Charles Wright, was that after this gimmick had played out and completely annoyed the fans, Vince brought this man back on multiple occasions, reinventing him as:

A. A supreme fighting machine
B. A militant black man, part of a militant black group
C. A pimp
D. A reformed pimp, who worked towards censorship of television

That's quite the lifespan to have this man go through, now wasn't it? Yet, all of these gimmicks, with the exception of that damn Godfather, had one thing in common, besides the actual wrestler; absolutely none of them got over. Shit, even The Godfather only got over because of his "Ho's". It wasn't like the man was a great wrestler, or for that matter, even a halfway decent wrestler, and his promo skills were mediocre, at best. So, what, really, gave this man even half of the career that he probably deserved? Well, simply put, the man was a part of the BSK (Backstage Krew), which was headed up by The Undertaker. And any time that you have The Undertaker on your side, you’re probably guaranteed that you’ll have either a job, or a big time promotion. Even now, if you look at the WWE, there are perfect examples of such a thing…

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Right… Because she’s talented… Anyway, no, it wasn’t like The Undertaker actually got Charles a job in the WWE, as he obviously didn’t have the backstage pull then that he currently possesses. Charles actually got a job with the WWE while working in the USWA, under the gimmick, “Soul Taker”. With his limited move set, he really didn’t have much going for him, except for one thing; he was huge. And with that girth came an intimidation factor, which, for some reason, seemed to attract Vince. Of course, Vince actually had The Undertaker on his roster at the time, so Charles was going to have to go through a complete gimmick overhaul. At first, the WWE portrayed the man as “Sir Charles, an obvious play on Charles Barkley, but that ultimately went nowhere. I assure you, though, once WWE had Charles in their clutches, he probably wished they did stick with Sir Charles, as there’s absolutely no way he could have expected what was going to happen to him next.

The WWE portrayed him as “Papa Shango”, which was based off the Bond villain, Baron Samedi. Now, seeing as how I’d never seen the movie “Live and Let Die” myself, I had to make sure that someone else actually thought this was a good idea for a villain, and created a character like Papa Shango, in the hopes that audiences liked it. And yet, it was true, that someone else had actually thought this would be a good idea for a movie character. See, here’s the evidence:

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So, if I can at least take some solace in this case, it’s in the fact that Vince was not the only man that actually believed in this character. Unfortunately, Vince seemed to forget two things:

1. That, again, film makers have the backing of editing and special effects behind them, and in contrast, as seen in the case of Glacier, wrestlers don’t have those same benefits.

2. Just because you saw the gimmick in a movie doesn’t make it any less stupid than it already is. It’s still a stupid gimmick; all it means is that one or two extra people might agree with you that creating this character is a good thing.

And, thus Vince had his basic creation for Papa Shango down; a shaman who was capable of casting spells upon his opponents, and winning his matches via magic. Some of this magic might include lighting his opponent’s fire on feet, or having a black ooze bleed from the wrestlers. He cursed many a wrestler, and was simply a flat out odd sight to see. He would go to convulsions during promos, carried a smoking skull to the ring, painted a skull on his face, and had a fairly bad ass cape added to him as well. Oh, and he also had a top hat, too, just in case you didn’t get that he was a witch doctor. Hell, let’s take a look at this man’s promos, just we can see just how ridiculous (and atrocious) this character really was.

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And that utter silence you heard, folks, was the sound of fans not giving a shit whatsoever. Still, Vince thought this would work, giving the man ample promo time, and placing him, in his big angle, against one of the biggest names in the WWE, The Ultimate Warrior. Hell, the plan for Shango was to have him interfere in the main event at Wrestlemania VIII, Hulk Hogan and Sid Justice. This would have been a tremendous splash for Papa, and would have probably shot him right into the main event. His first major act in the WWE was interfering in the biggest match at the biggest card of the year, and he was actually going to get heat on Hulk Hogan.

The only problem was, his first major act in the WWE happened to be botched, as well. In what can only be described as an utterly bone headed move, Shango missed his cue, and was late for his run in. It caused for a huge faux pas in the Hogan- Sid match, and even forced something that had never been seen to this time in the WWE; Sid Justice actually kicked out of the Hulk Hogan leg drop.

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Oh, how I love that gopher indeed. Anyway, yeah, Sid had to stall out more time for Papa to make it down the ring, and to do so, he had to kick out of the Hogan leg drop. What could only be described as a complete clusterfuck ensued. Everyone was confused as to where the fuck Papa was, so they decided to just wing it, and have Harvey disqualify Sid. And then, after about a good minute of confusion, Papa finally came out, and The Warrior came to help his good friend, Hulk Hogan. It might have made for the worst ending of Wrestlemania this side of Triple H- Randy Orton, and left a lot of people just really confused.

And that would go on to be how people felt about Papa Shango; utterly confused. His gimmick was one complete cluster fuck of magic, with no one knowing what was going on, nor anyone taking the man seriously. Hell, one time he made the Warrior puke, and no one knew how to take it. I mean, sure, it was the Warrior, but absolutely no one took it seriously, nor should they have.

And speaking of that Shango-Warrior feud, let’s now go to the Match of Ineptitude. First, let’s go to the aforementioned puking incident, to show how remarkably unbelievable this shit actually was. Then, we’ll take you directly between the match between Papa Shango, and The Ultimate Warrior. This should tell you just how far this feud went; these two went from being involved in the Wrestlemania main event, to having been placed on Coliseum Home Video.






Why it Failed: First, let’s discuss the obvious of the ridiculous nature of the gimmick. And, believe it or not, I don’t blame the actual gimmick of Papa Shango. Wrestlers have used magic in the past to get over, and the supernatural is often placed in the wrestling world. Just look at wrestlers such as The Undertaker and Kane. Sure, for every Undertaker, you have a Gangrel (Hmm…. Gangrel? Sounds like an interesting topic to me.), but it’s surely not a new occurrence to watch magic work in professional wrestling. The Undertaker has surely done things far more ridiculous in his long and storied career, and while some things have been completely ridiculous, some have definitely had us marking the fuck out. Now, I’ll be the first to say Papa’s gimmick had some instances that were completely cartoony, and things that were completely unbelievable. But let’s be honest, it’s not like the man was reinventing the wheel by doing something cartoony. As a matter of fact, if Papa Shango ever was going to succeed, this would have been the era it would have worked in, and probably only this era. At this time, there were cartoon caricatures making names for themselves, and who’s not to say that Shango didn’t fit any more than any other bad gimmick at this period. There were certainly far worse gimmicks thrown around (Cough… Nailz… Bezerker), and I feel that if Shango had done nearly as many bad gimmicky things, he might have had a chance. Having said that, the amount of gimmick that he relied on was completely unwarranted. He based any ability to get over on these gimmicks, and when people stopped buying into them, we simply stopped caring.

But, then again, it’s not like Shango had much else to go by. The fact that he was a mediocre worker at best, and a poor promo man, at worst. Now, I know what I might hear you say,

“But, Tenta, you had a promo on here not but a couple paragraphs ago, and that wasn’t too poorly done.”

Well, then… Let’s take a look at this promo, done by Bezerker, Shango, Warrior, and The Undertaker. My lord, your brain might explode from the utter crap that is this promo. But maybe, by beholding this promo, you will be consumed, and infested, by all that is mighty and powerful, by the great gods of the sky, and the flowing power of the Warrior!!!!... Ahem, or some shit like that.



You notice something there? Why, yes, he did repeat almost exactly what he said in his promo with Mean Gene. Don’t believe me? Watch the two back to back, and you’ll see I’m correct. Just take a good look there. I understand repeating a catch phrase here and there, but not a whole promo written and scripted at once. I’ve heard some pretty lame attempts at getting away with repetition, but anyone that repeats a promo, word for word, can’t really be that good, at all. Plus, coupled with the fact that he was a piss poor worker, and you have just a bad hand. I mean, have you ever noticed how many rest holds go into a Charles Wright match? I’m not saying that every match has to be a five star classic. But for Christ sakes, for someone that’s been in the ring for twelve years, you’d think he had some semblance of being able to put together a match. His matches were flat out tedious, at best, and when he wasn’t allowed to use his magic, absolutely nobody cared about his matches. As long as he didn’t have tricks and tips to pull out of his butt, he amounted to pretty much a big fat pile of nothing on the mic, or in the ring. In short, Vince put all of that gimmick around him, for a reason; because he knew that without all that dark magic, Charles Wright amounted to a pretty uninteresting guy in the ring.

But then again, there does seem to be something that added to Shango’s fall… Namely, this man;

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Simply put, this man was in creative control, and decided a lot of what Shango did. To say Warrior's plans were half brained... Well, it would insinuate Warrior had half a brain to begin with. The fact is that this was a lot of Warrior's failed ideas, and his feeling that anyone that had to put into a feud with him needed magic powers and shit. Thus, Papa Shango severely suffered, and was placed with a ton of shit that I do not envy for having been placed on him. Which, to some extent leads us to
The Moment of Saving Grace: People realized just how far out Warrior’s ideas were, and his ideas were completely thrown out by creative. Sure, he would have a bit more say from then on, such as nixing a heel turn. However, for the most part, Warrior’s creativity was placed heavily under question, and the WWE realized that this man was probably on drugs, and far too many drugs to count. Either than that, I really do struggle to find a positive thing amongst this. If you can name me something good about Papa Shango, I’d love to hear it. To me, all it did was place a below average worker into the ranks of WWE, and because of his friendship with the Undertaker, he was kept around for some gimmicks that he probably shouldn’t have. I utterly hated The Godfather (I know I’m in the minority, there. So what. It was tasteless to me, and I hated the idea of him bringing “ho’s” to the ring. That, I feel, was just completely degrading, and actually made me feel a bit dirty for having watched it.) and I disliked all that Charles Wright “brought” to the WWE. In the meantime, though, we see fit to induct Papa Shango, the worst of his gimmicks into the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. Please, join me tomorrow, as we go into detail on the next failed gimmick:

The New Blood: May the Bleeding Hearts Die

See ya.
 
I honestly don’t know where to start with Papa Shango. There are many negatives about the gimmick but I also have to admit that there are also some positives that the gimmick had.

I guess I’ll just start with the positives Papa Shango had. For one, they chose the perfect time to start the character. It was still around the time when cartoonish characters were being utilized. If the gimmick had been used at any other time other than the time cartoonish characters were used, then it would have epically failed.

Many kids were still watching the WWF and by putting on a character like Papa Shango, it had a chance to work. Whether he was making wrestlers vomit and convulse, controlling the arena lights, or “casting spells”, kids were always scared of him. I don’t think someone who was a kid watching back then can say that they weren’t scared. I also don’t think someone can say they didn’t hate him. People hated him for doing things like the ones I listed to the babyfaces. The best example of people wanting to hate him would be when he was feuding with The Ultimate Warrior. He made the second biggest babyface the company had at the time vomit and convulse. Whether you loved or hated the wrestler, you have to admit that Warrior was truly one of the biggest faces they had and every single kid wanted to hate Shango for doing the things he did to him. Now, that’s probably the biggest positive the character had and I currently can’t think of any other positive the character had.

Now, the only positive that Papa Shango had that I can think of is that it scared the kids watching. Nevertheless, it also had its negatives.

The first negative that comes to mind I can think of is the fact that Charles Wright (Papa Shango) wasn’t that good of a wrestler. He never put on any memorable matches that people went on to talk about for years. He never put on a match that people would talk about a week later. He had solid matches but nothing more. I think that was a big problem with him using the voodoo type gimmick, Papa Shango was more about the gimmick than it was about the wrestling. Everyone remembers Papa Shango for doing strange things to people, but never about the actual performance in the ring. In my opinion that is a problem if you cannot put out good matches that people might talk about for a couple of weeks. Take Bret Hart for example. He was a very good wrestler and he said that he was "The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be". People remember him for saying that but they also remember his matches, something Papa just couldn’t do. For now that’s the only negative I have but I’m sure I’ll be able to find another. I just know it.

Overall, Papa Shango was one of the original scary characters of the WWF/E. He was what the Boogeyman was supposed to be to the WWE a couple of years ago, a scary character meant to scare people. Papa Shango will be remembered for two things and two things only. The first one being the voodoo stuff he did and the second one is feuding with The Ultimate Warrior.
 
All excellent points around, Savage. Now then, I'll pose this question to you, or to anyone who wants it, actually. You see, as you described, this gimmick was horrendous for so many reasons, and it was fairly evident that it would not work. So, my question is this; Why did Vince place this almost exact same gimmick into another era, by including the Boogeyman?

I have my reasoning. I just feel as if there was nothing else Vince could do with either of these men, and needed to give them as much gimmick as possible to shade their flaws. Hell, look at Charles; they placed him in so many extravagent gimmicks (I've already stated my hate for The Godfather), and it was because he amounted to nothing on the stick or the mic. So with this in mind; Savage, why do you feel Vince went to this well once more, with the Boogeyman?
 
I firmly believe that Vince was trying to give the gimmick another shot. Obviously the Boogeyman wasn’t the exact same thing as what Papa Shango was, but it had the same fundamentals. Vince just tweaked the gimmick to fit the time it was in. No one, not even a 6 year old, would believe that someone could do some of the things that Shango did then. So he decided to not make Boogeyman exactly like Shango was, instead he made him do things that Shango didn’t do (like the eating of the worms). I think it’s quite obvious that the Boogeyman and Shango were basically the same gimmick, they just different things. They had a lot of comparison. Three of the comparisons they had were, they both carried the stick thing around, the face paint, and they were both meant to be scary.

So Vince was obviously trying to re-create the gimmick. This is one of those times when he showed that he is a stubborn man. The gimmick didn’t work then and it wasn’t going to work now. It failed both times and I hope Vince doesn’t continue to be persistent and give it another shot in a few years from now.
 
Welcome again, ladies and gentleman, children of all ages. I’m proud to present to you, once again, the rarely attempted, easily duplicated, John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. Yes sir, this memorial brings to you all of the pain and anguish found in a mrstlouis post, wrapped up tightly within the confines of a TheOneBigWill post. This, folks, describes all of the torment and agony that befalls us, the wrestling fan, and makes us all grind our teeth in frustration of how bad the business can truly be. This is the layer of Hell in which Dante forgot to write about; however, should he have existed in this time, he probably would have no interest in actually writing about the schlock you’re about to witness in this Memorial. Rather, he would probably rather grab the nearest knives, stick them in his eyes, and then proceed to bring those knives into his chest, in an attempt to end the misery in which he has had to endure. Surely, Hell would be a far better fate than having to endure this horrendous excuse for “entertainment”. Sure enough, doing this kind of thread gets taxing, and at times, I question my own sanity for having attempted to actually continue this thread on a daily basis. However, it’s necessary, and only for one reason; to give warnings to all promoters of all the evils of the past. Yes, while promoters have relatively great ideas, and have risen to power off said ideas; well, sometimes they throw out absolute clunkers. Sometimes, what may seem like the promoters as the next incarnation of the Four Horsemen really is, instead, a brand new Dungeon of Doom, and unless someone calls them out on these past transgressions, they will only continue to throw out crap that absolutely nobody wants. As a matter of fact, most people would rather stick their respective reproductive organs in a fire ant hill before having to relive these abominations. No matter how you spell it, wrestling fans have all had to go through some serious crap in their day. No matter when one would consider his “heyday”, it’s pretty factual to say that wrestling fans, all alike, have had to go through some painful and embarrassing moments as a fan. Not many people would ever want to subject themselves to this kind of anguish. However, I’ve chosen to give my life to examining all that is bad about professional wrestling. And though it seems a fate far worse than torture, I bring these travesties against mankind to your awareness, simply to warn you of the sheer evil that professional wrestling promoters are capable of. And maybe, just maybe, if we can show the true ugly side to wrestling, someone will listen, and we’ll never have to be subjected to this sort of torture again. These are the kinds of things that give men like Mark Madden jobs, and give them the ammunition to fire against wrestling, in general. And though we may not personally care too much for Madden, some of what he says has some sense of validity. There are plenty of terrible things in wrestling. And trust me, while we’ve gone through some pretty horrendous things already, now we’re going to go into a realm that even I’m not sure exactly how I’m going to stomach. So, with that in mind, let’s begin this little induction of ours.

And you know, in professional wrestling, it’s really not that often that either of the following things actually does happen.

1. That gimmicks that are distinct rip offs actually perform better than the gimmick they are ripping off of.
2. That TNA actually does something… Well, good. And for that matter, better than the predecessors in which they are distinctly copying.

And yet, in one fell swoop, TNA actually managed to do something halfway… Well, at least something that didn’t look completely ******ed. For the first time, perhaps in their history, they actually got something right, and were able to portray a storyline that was fairly compelling, and by some stretch of the means, was a bit of a success. Then again, one really has to remember that when we’re talking about gimmicks of TNA, that either:

1. Most of them are rip offs of other gimmicks.
2. That most of what they do is fairly inept, anyway.

And yet, here was TNA, providing something that didn’t look completely half ass, in the feud between the Main Event Mafia and the Frontline; A war between TNA loyalists, and the main event wrestler who moved into TNA, and claimed all of the spots in the main event, believing that the young guys had no respect for the business, whatsoever. Admittedly, this gimmick has been done before, but while no wrestling fan will ever say that the feud is an outstanding one, and worthy of feud of the decade accolades, one should definitely concur that this storyline is actually running far better than its predecessor, and will probably wind up attracting more fans to its product, which is more than the ancestor of this gimmick could possibly say.

Then again, when the predecessor is a massive wad of sewage, garbage, and a little bit of sprinkled raw ass, just to give a tiny hint of flavor to the steaming cesspool of shit, one truly does realize there was nowhere else for the inheritor of this lousy storyline to actually go, rather than up. Simply put, if TNA actually managed to do a worse version of this feud, TNA would have closed its doors much earlier than it may, and Vince Russo would have been dragged to a Bald Eagle’s nest, hopefully to have his eyes gouged and insides torn apart by the ferocious bird. Simply put, today’s feud completely rewrote the book on how to book a terrible feud. If this feud is not the worst of all time, it’s definitely close to it. It may not have been the reason for WCW’s doors shutting, but it certainly didn’t help matters. And by “didn’t help matters”, I meant that it opened up the casket to WCW one last time, urinating on the decaying body, *********ing on it, pulling it out of its coffin to defile it a little more, and then shoving the corpse, ass first, into the coffin. This was supposed to be the absolute last hope for WCW. Instead, it wound up kicking WCW right into the grave, with no chance of reviving it whatsoever.

Say what you want about Vince Russo, but there’s no way to deny that this was an atrocious feud. And that is why, today, we have no choice but to induct this sorry piece of monkey poop into the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. So, without further ado, allow us to introduce you to;

The New Blood

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What Was It: Well, again, as have become customary in our tours of the JTMFTH, it’s only fair to give a bit of a background into what made this festering pile of shit… You know, before we actually do study the shit, itself. You see, ever since WCW had become extremely popular, somewhere in the late 1990s, it’s always had some sort of “problem”. The talent always felt, for years, that they were being held down, and that they were not given their chance to shine by WCW. They felt that WCW’s stars had not given the chance to shine that they deserved, and that they were extremely unhappy with the raw deals that they were getting. They demanded change, and god damn it, they were going to get it… You know, when they actually grew a pair, and brought it up with the wrestlers themselves. To this day, I wonder just how many times Billy Kidman came up to Hulk Hogan before this whole New Blood thing, and actually told him exactly what he thought. Still, there were some wrestlers that had a legitimate gripe with how the “good ol’ boy system” worked. They knew they had the talent, but felt that they were getting nowhere near the chance they should. These wrestlers had the talent to headline pay per views, and with the right push, these men could possibly become the new stars of WCW.

There’s just one teensy, tiny little problem here, though… By the time WCW ran the New Blood angle, those wrestlers had told WCW to kiss their grits, and had gone on to greener pastures. By the summer of 1999, the WWE had already snatched up talent such as Chris Jericho and The Big Show, two young superstars that were upset with how they were being treated, and decided it was time to move on. They knew that their talent would speak for itself in WWE, and Vince McMahon, ever the shrewd businessman, pounced on the obvious, and signed both of these men to long term deals. Soon, men like Raven, who admittedly at this time was completely out of shape, and getting fucked up on a constant basis, had moved on, as well. While he didn’t go to WCW immediately, he went back home to ECW, and was still able to portray the tortured soul that got him over so well in ECW. And, soon enough, WCW would lose four more names that would prove costly, in Eddie Guerrero, Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko, and some other guy. Weird… I don’t remember that guy one bit. Probably made nothing of himself anyway, and pretty much just disappeared from pro wrestling. It’s crazy how some guys pan out and some guys just-

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… Humph… I forgot he went to WWE with those four guys… Oh well, yeah, Chris Benoit was the fourth guy completely fed up with WCW’s politics. As a matter of fact, he left the day after WCW decided to give him the Heavyweight Title. And with good reason… This man was going to be booked into oblivion, as one of the men who was coming into power was Kevin Sullivan, a man who used to be married to Chris’ wife, Nancy. But even then, it would seem that all these men were pissed, and that they were not going to take it anymore. So, this basically left WCW with a couple of extremely old stars, and some guys that never really had done anything of true significance for the business.

I’m going to repeat that line again, and hopefully, this will not fall under deaf ears, as some people tend to forget this about the New Blood;

The New Blood consisted of guys who had done absolutely nothing for the business.

Ahem… Now remember that… That’ll probably become very important later… I’m just sayin…

Anyway, speaking of power, the WCW also had quite the revolving door of folks taking over the reins of WCW. First, the fired Eric Bischoff, because… Well, let’s face it, Eric had gone bonkers by this point. The man was throwing away half a million dollars every night, and was having people like Kiss and Master P on his television program. Granted, he was throwing around money earlier… But, well, WCW was doing great then. And as long as they were doing great, no one cared. It wasn’t until he actually started losing money that people started getting pissed. And when they got pissed, Eric was gonzo. And with that, they were kind of screwed from a creative side on who to put in there. And that’s when these men showed up, to make matters that much worse;

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Good looking boys, now ain’t they? So yeah, they came in, ruined whatever sense of kayfabe was actually in WCW, mercilessly drove it into the ground, and even did an extremely tasteless character based off of a man with Bell’s Palsy. You’ll hear much more of rant on this gimmick when the time is right. So yeah, they came and putzed around, and threw around some inside jokes that only us smarks would know. And even then, us smarks didn’t find them funny whatsoever, and so we hated it. So, after about three months, they decided to go another route with Creative, having Bill Busch leading the way for WCW. Then, those four Radicals left WCW, and moved on to WWE, where their careers got much better…

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… Well, relatively speaking, anyway. So, these four leave, and the upper brass at WCW is all like, “Wassupwitdat?”, and Bill Busch was all like, “Aw, shit, shawty.”, and WCW brass is all like “Ah, heel naw. Yo ass is fihed!” And general hilarity ensued… Except for the fans of WCW. They got some shit for about three months.

That is, until Vince Russo was brought back, and he was supposed to be the savior of WCW! Not only that, but they’d managed to bring along Eric Bischoff, and he was going to help out! And all the WCW fans was like “Ah, it’s on now!” And Russo and Eric were like, “Yeah! This our house, now! What’s up, homies?” And WCW was all like “Hell to the yeah, my nizzle!”

Anyway, I think that’s what all the kids say now. But on to more important matters, they brought these two in to book, and their first goal was to try and get over this new talent that they had in WCW.

Except, you know, someone forgot to send these two a memo, to tell them that Jericho, Big Show, and all of the Radicals were gone. And, as I said so early ago;

The New Blood consisted of guys who had done absolutely nothing for the business.

I feel like I’ll be saying that a lot today. But anyway, yeah, they wanted to get these guys over, so they decided to have these guys go over established stars, for absolutely no reason. You know, like 85% of the IWC wanted when The Miz wrestled John Cena. But, anyway, they were on a mission to bury their only stars, and would do so at any cost. Even if that cost happened to be their jobs… Which, ironically enough, just so happened to be the case!

So, now guys like Billy Kidman had the balls to call out Hulk Hogan… On live TV… and no one cared one damn bit. And how could you expect them to? It was utterly ridiculous, and there’s absolutely no way it was going to work. Still, The WCW brass pushed it, and so went the burial of the main event wrestlers, along with WCW, as we knew it.

And this brings us to The Match of Ineptitude. And granted, there are so many matches to choose from here, and so much ineptitude all around. However, for this one, we’ll go right to the first Nitro of the new era, first starting with a scathing promo on the main event stars, and then the actual match, between Billy Kidman and Hulk Hogan.








Why it Failed: Do I really have to say it again? I do? Damn it. *Sigh*

The New Blood consisted of guys who had done absolutely nothing for the business.

Seriously, was I expected that these men stood a legitimate shot against the Millionaires Club? Are you trying to say I’m stupid for believing Billy Kidman has no chance in Hell against Hulk Hogan? None of these guys had done anything of significance for the business, and were destined to be mid-carders, at best. And yes, that does include Jeff Jarrett. Think, can you say anything of relevance Jeff did before Vince came to power in WCW? His biggest contribution to wrestling was getting beat by Chyna, and dropping the IC Strap to the first woman’s IC Champ. That’s the guy you’re making the face of your feud? That’s the guy? Hell, Steve Austin refused to do a feud with him. You know why?

Because… *Sigh*

Jeff Jarrett had done absolutely nothing for the business.

I mean, really, it’s Jeff Jarrett. You think he did anything to help the business at this point, then you are dead wrong. And that goes for just about every guy you can find in that New Blood club, including;

Shane Douglas
Buff Bagwell
Billy Kidman

Need I go on? There were only three stars that got made out of this and;
A. One didn’t deserve it (Jarrett)
B. One was the only thing they had (Steiner)
C. One… Well, he earned it (We’ll hear more on him later)

But, you can’t completely blame these men… Vince Russo is just as much to blame. You see, they tried to get these guys over as faces. And Vince, being the prick he is, wanted to add himself, because he’s such a mark for his own face.

There’s just one problem; no one likes Vince, and because of that, everyone took the New Blood as heels. At least, I did. It was just terrible booking all around, and as a wrestling fan, it seemed to me that Vince was too selfish to keep himself off TV, and in the writer’s room, where he was needed.

Moment of Saving Grace: And yes, this moment does actually have a saving grace, unlike the other two editions of the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. That saving grace is Booker T. For years, the man couldn’t get a break, and this finally gave him the chance in the main event. Simply put, he was the best they had, and he became their top face, perhaps the most marketable wrestler they had. Booker T was instantly a member of the main event after Bash at the Beach, whereas before that, he was struggling in matches over keeping his last initial, and sinking himself down to being G.I. Bro. I kid you not, it was really that bad. Yet, Booker was finally given his shot, and he wouldn’t look back, becoming a multiple time world champion, and the most dignified WCW Champion they had to offer. Booker T saved this New Blood gimmick, on all his own. Still, he could not save WCW, which is a tragic shame, though not unexpected. The New Blood gimmick crippled WCW so much, and all it did was really prolong the agony. And that is why it gets a great little spot in the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. Thanks for joining us, and come back tomorrow, as we discuss

Damien Demento: Demented indeed

See ya
 
By the time that WCW started their new initiative to try and get younger talent over, it was way too late. Barely anyone cared about WCW anymore. Everyone was bored of the product that WCW was putting out and thought it was stale. Once they saw they needed a major overhaul, no one could have cared less. But they still gave it a shot and failed.

Here’s one of the reasons why I think the whole New Blood failed. The main event talent that WCW had been using for many years were still involved. The main reason why people started switching over to the WWF was because they were sick and tired of seeing the same old people on top of the mountain.

Once they started the whole overhauling, people quickly dismissed the whole feud between The Millionaire’s Club and The New Blood because the people that forced many fans to switch over to the competition were still being involved. Everyone wanted to see new talent in the main event and once they saw that the older wrestlers were still being involved, many people thought they were just going to see what they previously saw, the older guys at the top while the younger guys were getting buried. I honestly do not blame those people who immediately thought that, what else could you have expected from a company that had been using that formula for many years.

Another of the reasons I felt that the whole overhaul failed was because of the way they went about it. They just kind of threw the guys together and hoped for the best. There was no hype or anything at all. Look at stables like the NWO and the incarnation of DX a few years ago. They had hype. Everyone knew that something was going to happen or that someone was going to reunite. Everyone knew that something was going to happen do to Scott Hall and Kevin Nash showing up on Nitro. No one knew that Hulk Hogan was going to be the third member of the stable, but people knew that there was a mystery partner because it had been hyped. Then you look at the re-incarnation from DX a few years ago and once again people knew that something was going to happen once they saw that Shawn Michaels and Triple H were feuding with the McMahons and the Spirit Squad at different times. Everyone just knew something was going to happen. Then when you look at the New Blood, they were thrown together with no hype at all like it had been done with stables like the NWO.

I have two more reasons why I think the stable failed. One of those reasons because they had way too many people. I actually counted how many people they had in the stable according to Wikipedia: They had 35 wrestlers (34 if you exclude David Arquette), 10 managers, and 2 leaders in Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo. So that brings us to a total of 46 or 47 members. To make things even more complicated, The New Blood stable was compromised of 3 different stables, but get this: They were all in one stable. I don’t think anyone can think of a bigger clusterfuck stable than this one. I don’t think that not even the NWO had that many members. It was just too many guys in that stable and it was just bound to fail with so many of them involved. And you know what the real sad part is? Out of 34 wrestlers, 12 people went on to hold a championship and one of the leaders held a title. Want to know what’s even sadder? One of the guys that held the World Title wasn’t even a wrestler; he was a fucking actor from Hollywood. Want to know what’s even sadder than that? Out of 34 wrestlers, only one wrestler held the World Title, and that man was Jeff Jarrett. They had 34 wrestlers and only one of them was “allowed” to hold a World Title. Mind you, it was a title that lost most if not all of any prestige it might have had, but it was still the top title in WCW and they only gave one guy a break. It was just plain and simply sad that only one guy came out looking better than he did when he was coming in.

My last and final reason why the stable failed was because they had too many wrestlers that no one could have cared less about. From the list of wrestlers, there were probably less than 10 wrestlers that anyone cared somewhat about. By having so many wrestlers associated with some wrestlers that people somewhat cared about, it brought down the quality of the stable. You just cannot have someone like Goldberg (even though I dislike him, I will not deny he was a top guy in WCW) associated with someone like Juventud Guerrera. A main eventer mixed with someone who couldn’t even dream about main eventing in America does not equal a recipe for success.

Those are my reasons for why I feel the New Blood stable failed and failed miserably. The stable could have worked but with the Bookers WCW had, it was just bound to fail.
 
Welcome, once again, friends and spammers, all alike, to the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. I hope that, for your sake, you decided to leave the women and children at home. For you see, if you ever brought your spouse, or your children to such a place, they would realize all of the utter failure that is prevalent in the world of wrestling. Our crack staff (basically, of myself and SavageTaker) have combed the annals of wrestling history, mainly because we no longer see a purpose to this life. After all, how could one possibly rationalize exploring the inner asshole of the wrestling world, shit and all, without, to some extent, no longer caring much for the life we lead now. Entering what is to be deemed the Underworld of Pro Wrestling comes at a price, and every time you step foot in these hallowed halls, you may just find a small part of yourself decay and die by the second. This, again, is not your average memorial. While most memorials honor the great and dignified, this memorial stands as a warning to all of just how terrible the wrestling world can be. Admittedly, your sanity will be questioned, and your heart will be pierced by the exhibits you witness today. Instead of watching these matches and reliving these gimmicks, I’d rather take a golden spear, shove it up my butt, and try to bounce on the spear like a spring, as if it were a tail and I were Tigger of “Winnie the Pooh”. This is the absolute most horrifying, and indeed, tears inducing, building our crack group of scientists could create, and that didn’t defy the decency of humanity. And believe me; such a task was extremely difficult. If you were to take your family on a road trip, I’d recommend taking your children to the Gates of Hell before bringing your children to the terrifying, and insane, exhibits that you will witness for the day. Yet, one can only hope that by entering these dark hallways, you will learn of the fault of bookers and p****ters alike, and that we may never fall into the same trap that is horrendous booking. This building was founded upon one hope, and one hope only; to remind us of the horrible deeds of p****ters past and present, with a hope that they may learn for the future, before Professional Wrestling does, indeed, go the way of Poor Tiny Tim. And now, let’s move away from Dickens, and prepare to explore what truly has become, for the wrestling world, The Heart of Darkness. Yesterday, I left you all for the day to sit with the festering exhibit that is The New Blood. Today, I bring you someone I’ve been meaning to call to the carpet this entire time, and quite frankly, this man really does deserve it. He is quite the jackass, and given the chance, I would have placed him first into this here J**FTG. Still, he has managed to elude the all knowing beings that are our scientists… Until now. Today, I plan on you bringing you a scathing piece, indeed.

Naturally, we all like the internet. We all admit that the internet has done great things for us, and that it has connected the world in ways we possibly never have imagined. Without the minds of which have put together the internet, none of us would be here, and I’d probably have to put up the money to actually create this place in real life. Although… Maybe one day, if I ever have enough money…

Actually, the more I talk about the idea

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… Hate it that much, huh? Well, I guess you’re right. The idea of this place is pretty farfetched anyway. Regardless, the internetz rulez for reals. I believe we can all agree to such a thing, and at this point, we’re only getting stronger with technology. Naturally, professional wrestling has caught onto the internet band wagon, and now we can stream TV shows and pay per views, all from our lap tops.

Except, of course, you still have to pay. And, you know, if you got a TV, you might as well use it and shit. And, of course, if you try to stream it for free, the WWE will shut you down, and whatever account you have for streaming these shows will be banned. Anyway, though, they offer the ability to do many things on the web, and perhaps someday, we’ll be able to more great things on the internet. Maybe, even, we’ll be able to solve all of the world’s problems, just by using the technology of the internet.

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Yeah, I guess we are all really dicks, at heart. It’d be great to think that we could, but we probably can’t. Anyway, there are some wrestlers that have found that they can actually put themselves over on the internet. Many wrestlers have went to the internet, providing shoot interviews for certain sites, and reporting to the dirt sheets about every little thing that’s going on in the business. Some have even taken the time to blog out their feelings on the internet, and through that, we can track the career of all of favorite wrestlers, even by not watching the actually wrestling matches, or having firsthand knowledge of the actual backstage. Only problem, though, is sometimes we get pricks that happen to have an extremely biased nature towards the business, and are very bitter soul will try to give his opinion on life and liberty.

And most of the time, that wrestler is doing it... Well...

Because that guy couldn't get over, and now he's extremely pissed.

And, usually, that wrestler blames the entire free world for this inability to get over, not acknowledging what we all know about the man, and what we know, at heart, is the reason this man did not get over. Because, and I'm not sure how many times I'll be saying this throughout the induction today, the wrestler sucks, and is not a captivating man, whatsoever. Thus, this is the case for today, as we induct what may just be the strangest member of the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks

Damien Demento

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What Was It: And normally, I’d have an extensive background on the guy, who he is, and who else he was in the wrestling business, before I go into the actual gimmick. But, you see, there’s really nothing to report about Demento, because he did absolutely nothing of worth before he entered the WWE. We know how much *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha likes big guys, and I can only assume that this guy looked good for being a big guy, and that the WWE signed him… Well, just because of that. Nothing else signified that this guy was going to pan out at all. He was trained by Johnny Rodz, who was responsible for guys like Tommy Dreamer, The Dudleys, and Taz, and to the best of my knowledge, this was the first of Johnny Rodriguez’ guys that *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha took to begin his career. And boy, did *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha make a mistake for taking this guy as his first pupil. I can just imagine the conversation that goes on between *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha and anyone that wants to hire a Johnny Rodz guy;

*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha: Ok, who do we have here?

Executive: Well, he’s a bit green, but he was trained by Johnny Rodz.

*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha: Johnny Rodz? Do you remember how things went when we took Damien Demento?

Executive: Well, yeah, but-

*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha: But nothing, let him go off to TNA, or some shit like that. For the love of God, I’m not going to have another Damien Demento!

At least, that’s basically how I envisioned this going down. On a lighter note, though, have you ever noticed that Damien Demento and Tyson Tomko bear a striking resemblance. No, seriously, if you don’t believe me, I’ll show you. First, let’s take another look at Demento;

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And here we got one of Tomko, as well;

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No wonder *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha had second thoughts of bringing back Tomko for a second time. If I were *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha, I would have thought I was bringing back to Demento, and been scared shitless. But, anyway, *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha signed Demento, and boy did he have a gimmick to blow us away. His gimmick was going to be that he heard voices in his head, and that he was just generally… Well, he was strange. And at the time, it made no sense, but when one really does think about it, the gimmick makes perfect sense for the man playing it, in Phil Theis.

So, the gimmick was a psychopath, who wore what I can only assume was a costume created by the love child of Liberace and Fred Flintstone. It was really that bad. He was from “The Outer Reaches of Your Mind”, and boy was that assessment correct. The man was the living embodiment of a mind fuck, with one talent in particular. Namely, he couldn’t work a good match to save his life, whatsoever, and his gimmick was utterly ridiculous.

So, like all bad gimmicks, *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha put him out to pasture, and hopefully we’d never have to see this crazy son of a bitch ever again.

Err…

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Yes, this man has managed to keep himself relatively relevant by being on the fucking internet. This man has felt that his wrestling mind is so great, and that he should be a leading authority on all things wrestling. Then, not only that, but he’s felt that he’s a leading expert in life, really, and has felt the need to express all his views on the media. Well, that’s another jobber that’s trying to make himself relevant in the fans eyes, but the problem is that he was never relevant to begin with. Like, at all.

Alas, I’m going into my rant, which hopefully I can save for my Why It Failed: But as for now, this is going into our Match of Ineptitude:, in which we look at a match from that wrestler’s past, and take part in the historical shame that was Damien’s career. And for this one, I feel bad, but we do have another *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha match, mainly because… Well, it’s pretty much the only match people remember him for. It was the first Raw ever, and he did the job for The *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha on Raw’s first main event. And that concludes the obvious trivia segment, in which everyone already probably was aware of the answer. Anyway, let’s go on out to Damien Demento and The *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha:



And if you’re wondering who that other announcer was… Well, who gives a shit? He fucking sucked anyway… His name was Rob Bartlett

Why It Failed: Well, this is going to refer more or less to him after his wrestling career. If you want to know why he failed, it’s because he was one massive botch in the ring. No matter how you look at it, the guy had nothing to contribute in the ring, and the only thing that differentiated him from any other jobber was that *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha actually decided to give this man a gimmick. And, if I may say, that gimmick was really that damn bad. Any time that you have a wrestler that hails from “The Outer Reaches of Your Mind”, it’s really not going to work well. You could have strapped *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha with that gimmick, and no one would have taken him seriously, whatsoever. This was the point in which you could tell *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha was really struggling to put gimmicks together, and that this was the last shreds of what *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha could offer to fans. However, I’d feel far more sympathetic for Damien’s case if he was able to get the crowd involved in his matches. And it’s not only that people didn’t care; people couldn’t get away from the television in enough time to actually care. Simply put, this man couldn’t draw worth a lick, and the only thing he really had to him, honestly, was being really tall, and looking really strange. And read: Damien Demento did not look intimidating, he just looked really, really, really fucking strange. And aside from all that, Damien just never caught onto the fans.

Now, with that all out of the way, I have a little something personal for Demento himself. You see, to the best of my knowledge he scours these forums, looking for things to talk about, and things to make himself relevant. Damien, I want you to learn something

To have an opinion that’s relevant, it would have to insinuate that you were a relevant man to begin with. And you, sir, were anything but. I cannot describe just how much of a massive black hole of fail you embody. There is nothing about you as a person I find appealing, and wouldn’t mind one bit if you rotted in Hell.

Wait, no, I’m not done yet.

You are a pathetic scumbag. Your parents were scum and you're doing a most glorious job of following the tradition. You're a bottom-feeder loser who feeds off the scraps that the roaches won't even touch. You are a puss-filled cyst in the colon of society. Here's an idea: Go impale yourself on a sharp stick and die gurgling blood in a pool of your own inadvertently released urine and feces. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meat slapper. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, a ferment, and the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

Frankly, if you sucked anymore you would inhale your own dick. I wish you a painful and vile death of choking upon your own tears, from the loneliness I wish upon you until the gloom filled, depressing last days of your life.

Ahem…. Now opinions on the internet aren’t fun anymore, are they? Good… Learn your boundaries, and realize that if you were relevant, you’d be in a whole new world of shit right now with the entire world. But as it stands, you mean nothing to the world, and I pray to God no one ever has to be saddled to your crazy ass for life. In short, you are a failure, and you should really go throw yourself into a well.

The Moment of Saving Grace: You know, there really is none. It’s one thing to be a jobber, but to go out and bitch about it is another thing. I know wrestlers have to keep themselves relevant, but seriously, Damien went about it in the worst way. I can’t really think at all of someone who has burnt more bridges than Damien Demento. And the funny thing is, most of those bridges were people he never knew. There was a time in which he ripped on RVD, and to the best of my knowledge, never met the man. This is exactly what the internet; it allows for morons like this man to become a little more relevant. And that’s really the last thing we need in society.

Anyway, that’s about it from this session of the John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. Join us Saturday, as we discuss The one, the only, and perhaps the greatest;

The Shockmaster

See ya.
 
I honestly don’t know where to start with Damien Demento. There’s so little I can say about him because his career was so short. I will only stick to his wrestling career, because if I decided to talk about his rants on YouTube I will be forced to write a novel about him. I honestly don’t think he is worth getting a novel especially after his latest rant, so I will keep my thoughts about his wrestling career only.

Demento’s gimmick was someone who was demented. Was this really the best they could possibly come up with? When you give someone a gimmick where they can hear and speak to voices, it is just bound to fail no matter what. What really bewilders me is the fact that they actually allowed for this gimmick to continue on for an entire year. I suppose they didn’t notice that Damien wasn’t going to get anywhere with such a gimmick. It really, really was a horrible gimmick and what is more baffling is the fact that *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha attempted to do very similar gimmicks later on, even though it had already failed once. It’s not like someone else could have made the gimmick work, unless they were really, really good, which none of the people were.

Moving on, Damien Demento is not a good wrestler. I have seen some of his matches on YouTube and I hated them. There was absolutely nothing that I liked about his matches. They were just horrible, everything about them. To add insult to injury, he never once had a memorable match. Never. Even some of the worst gimmicks have had a match that is memorable, whether it was because the match was so horrible that people couldn’t help but to remember it or because they got carried to a good match by way superior workers.

Demento only had one thing that everyone will remember him for. That would be main eventing the first ever Raw with The *Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha*Ha. Now, I did mention that he never had a memorable match; I do want to make it clear that the first main event of Raw was not a memorable match. What was memorable was the fact that he was in the first ever main event of Raw, but no one actually remembers if the match was good or bad. So, I guess that will be his only claim to fame, main eventing the first ever episode of Raw.

Damien Demento had a truly horrendous gimmick and he was not a good wrestler. After all, what can you expect from someone who was trained by someone who had been a jobber for basically their whole career? I honestly I’m glad that he decided to retire and just leave pro-wrestling all together, can you imagine what could have happened had he stayed longer? I certainly don’t even want to imagine it.
 
I couldn't agree more Savage. The idea of hearing voices is something you never want to get too involved with in pro wrestling. All it makes is for characters in which you can't relate to at all. And Damien was as difficult to relate to as any character I've ever seen. He was truly bizarre, and perhaps the most bizarre character that WWE ever came up with. How this man could really attempt to bring this character to how he was is a mystery?

Which brings me to this question, Savage; we;'ve obviously heard the rants, and they're bizarre to say the least. The question is this: Did Damien actually have mental problems? Because I find it hard to believe he did not?

My other question is this, Savage... Do you feel like taking over for me tomorrow? I'm sorry to spring you with this, but something came up for me tomorrow. How would you feel taking the reins of this project with The Shockmaster?
 
Did Damien Demento really have mental problems?

I think it’s very understandable how someone can think he had mental problems. It’s very easy to see that he was and still is a very bizarre man.

But I honestly don’t think he had mental problems. I think that he is one of those wrestlers that become “marks” for themselves. It is something we have seen many times in pro-wrestling. Some wrestlers just believe that everything they say and do is like a gospel. They really do buy into themselves as if they were something big in wrestling, when in reality they weren’t. I think this is the case with Demento. Just because he was on the first ever main event of Raw he suddenly thinks he is one of the best.

What actually bothers me the most about Demento is the fact that he was only in the wrestling business for a few years and then decided to retire but he seems to think he is a veteran. He thinks he knows everything about pro-wrestling. Now, I obviously don’t know everything about wrestling, but Demento speaks like he is some god when it comes to wrestling, and he isn’t. He wasn’t there long enough to actually say some of the things he likes to say about today’s wrestlers.

I think it was truly a blessing that he decided to retire early. Like I said earlier, I just cannot imagine how things would be had he decided to stay.

In closing to answer your question Tenta, I don’t think he has mental problems (I understand why someone would think that), but I do think he is a bizarre man and has become a “mark” for himself.


And yes Ladies and Gentleman I will be taking over for tomorrow. I do hope that a lot of you come in and post your opinions.
 
I want to go back to the kennel from hell match for just one minute if I can.

Someone pitched the idea for this match. Someone said, "Hey boss....what if we take a Cell, put it around a cage, fill it with dogs, and then put a hardcore match in the middle of it." And he said, "That's a great idea. You see, hardcore matches aren't that easy to to understand. Maybe if we put one inside of two cages, people will understand that they happen at random."

So, they put The Big Boss Man, who was either on his way to, or from, a WWF Title match. (I can't remember the timing) Nothing says legitimacy like a match with Al Snow, barking dogs, and a broken belt.

Wow...just wow.
 
WWE Booking at the time.... Not really that logical was it? And I'm not sure what's more baffling.... the fact that they did that, or the fact that they still had Trips, and The Rock, to work with the champion of The Big Show, yet for some reason, they went with the oh so talented worker of The Big Boss Man. Really is quite baffling. Vinnie Mac had to deal with Trips, I'm sure, but maybe they could have used this time to create a new star. They'd lost both Stone Cold and Taker by this point, so why not give a young star a chance at The Big Show.

Ant this brings me to my ultimate point... Vince, for whatever reason, just didn't trust in The Big Show as champion. Which makes it preposterous that he got the belt in the first place, but that's the only way I could make sense of them giving him BBM to work with. In my estimation, a feud between Show and Y2J could have done really well at this point, and could have made stars out of both men.

Which brings me to this question... Did BBM get his spot because Vince did not believe in The Big Show?
 
I do not think Bossman was given a shot because Vinnie didn’t believe in Big Show. I think this is just one of those cases where no one will ever know what the true reason was other than Vinnie himself. My best guess is that Vinnie was just trying to build up a go to guy in case someone went out because of an injury or something else. He might have been nervous since Stone Cold and ‘Taker were out that he wouldn’t have someone else to fill in the void left if someone else was to go out. Apparently Bossman was the best choice (NOT REALLY) if building up a go to guy were his intentions.
 
First off, I would just like to say that this is one of if not my favorite thread on the forums. It's feels nice to relive some of the ugliest, horrible, gruesome, and lowest moments in pro wrestling history.

Well with that being said, I want to go back to the New Breed topic. I feel it was a year overdue. When you look at the concept, I think it's a pretty good idea. Its had moderate success in TNA and in the WWE to some extent with the ECW Originals vs the New Breed. Anyway, the New Blood should have came in 1999 back when WCW still had the Radicals, Jericho, and Bret Hart was still active. Benoit could have replaced Jarrett as the main leader of the stable along with Hart, Goldberg, Booker, and Steiner in the main event fueding with Flair, Hogan, Nash, DDP, and Sting, meanwhile you could have Jarrett, Eddie,and Jericho in the U.S. title picture against Hall, Henning, and Sid Vicious. In the T.V. title, picture you'll have Saturn, Kanyon, and Bagwell against Funk and Duggan.

Overtime, guys like Jarrett, Booker, Steiner, Eddie, and Jericho could have build up to become credible main enventers and carry WCW when the old guys left. Also, you could've build up guys like O'Haire, Chuck Palumbo, and Mark Jindrak to be mid-carders. And it could've avoided that abomination of Arquette winning the title. But that's just my opinion, what do you think?
 
This is my first time posting in this thread, but not the first time reading it. I have been keeping up with it, but I haven't had much to say until you talked about Papa Shango. Now, I'm not going to lie, when I was a kid Papa Shango legitimately scared the hell out of me. I never thought of him as a stupid gimmick or a worthless wrestler. Apparently when I went to a wrestling show, Shango came out and I started crying because I was so freaked out. This came from my brother as I don't remember this, but if it did happen then this gimmick, to me, was a success. To be honest, he was one of the more memorable gimmicks to me and I thought that a lot of people just didn't remember him.

Anyway to the point. I can kind of see now how Papa Shango fits into the JTMFTG from what was presented in this thread. It was over the wall, outrageous, and hardly believable. But damn it, when I was first watching him it was compelling stuff. I guess I must of been the only one to think such things, but I am a secret fan of the Papa Shango gimmick, I guess it's all perspective really. Some people didn't connect to the gimmick and completely got turned off, while other, like me, were taken in by it. For sure it was because of my age, but it was still part of my wrestling memory and I will remember Papa Shango from how I experienced him, but I can respect your opinion on him and why he was put into the memorial.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen I would like to officially welcome you to this very special edition of The John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. I will be your guest host for this edition. So without further ado let’s get this show on the road.

Today we will be discussing the man who was involved in one of the most embarrassing moments in the history of professional wrestling. That man is none other than:

The Shockmaster


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Who it Was: In case you don’t know who he was I’ll tell you. He originally worked for the WWF from 1990 to 1992. He worked under the name Tugboat at first and he was a babyface. He later turned heel and re-named himself Typhoon. He started a tag team with John Tenta who was going by the name of Earthquake and they were managed by Jimmy Hart. Together they would be known as The Natural Disasters. During their time as a tag team, they only accomplished winning the WWF World Tag Team Championships by defeating Money Inc. Later on they would lose the titles back to Money Inc. and a couple of months later Tugboat/Typhoon departed and went to the competition: WCW.



The Shockmaster debuted in WCW in 1993. His debut was set to take place at Clash of the Champions XXIV on "A Flair for the Gold" interview segment. However, things didn’t go as planned. Just take a look for yourself:


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Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen what you just saw is what really happened. Many people consider this incident to be one of the most if not the most embarrassing and humiliating moment in the history professional wrestling.

According to Dusty Rhodes, there was a piece of lumber set on the stage which caused The Shockmaster to trip over it. Dusty says that it wasn&#8217;t there previously during a practice run and that David Crockett put it there without informing The Shockmaster. He obviously didn&#8217;t know it was there so he ended up tripping.

After all of this occurred WCW decided to continue on with The Shockmaster&#8217;s in-ring debut at Fall Brawl despite the fact that no one could take The Shockmaster serious and everyone basically laughed at the guy.


The storyline leading up to the Fall Brawl pay per view was that The Shockmaster would be teaming up with Sting, Dustin Rhodes, and Davey Boy Smith who were going to be facing the heel team of Sid Vicious, Big Van Vader, and the Harlem Heat in a War Games match. Here is that match:



Later on, WCW attempted to save the gimmick and redeem it by introducing the "Super Shockmaster." Because you know, it really couldn&#8217;t get any worse. Eventually and thankfully the gimmick was completely abandoned. Shockmaster decided to retire from wrestling once WCW folded in 2001 and moved on to other things.

The Shockmaster will forever be remembered for the incident at Clash of the Champions and he will forever hold a spot in The John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks.

Overall, The Shockmaster was one of the silliest gimmicks I have ever seen. Who in the blue hell is suppose to take someone serious when they are wearing a Star Wars Storm trooper helmet painted silver and covered in glitter. I can answer that, no one. It honestly was ridiculous that WCW actually went through with the gimmick considering how silly it was.

What makes me more baffled is the fact that they decided to try and salvage the gimmick by introducing &#8220;The Super Shockmaster&#8221;. Because, you know, things couldn&#8217;t get any worse. To be honest, The Shockmaster became a laughing stock. No one could take it serious anymore; it&#8217;s not as if anyone took the gimmick serious to begin with. I don&#8217;t think anything that WCW tried would salvage the gimmick. And nothing did save the gimmick.

Now, I do want to say something about the wrestler that played the gimmick. He was considered a &#8220;big man&#8221;, but I honestly don&#8217;t consider him to be a good &#8220;big man&#8221; wrestler. He was decent but nothing impressive. He definitely isn&#8217;t as good as other big men are. He is nowhere close to the ability of Vader, John Tenta, Bam Bam, and others. But I will admit he was decent.

With all of this in mind we wrap up this edition of The John Tenta Memorial for Terrible Gimmicks. I hope to read what your opinions are.
 
First of all, I hadn't seen that SavageTaker had posted The Shockmaster entry already. Good job Savage, and it was nice to see that horrible gimmick finally inducted where it belonged!

But what I was going to show was what Phil Theis aka Damien Demento said at the end of his attack on Rob Van Dam. People need to check this shit out, it is crazy to hear someone this crazy.

&#8220;Let me tell you somthin&#8217; you little midget. If you think, that maybe one day, you&#8217;re gonna, I&#8217;m gonna run into you, you little dwarf, and you&#8217;re gonna intimidate me, let me tell you somthin&#8217; you little creep! You little creep, I&#8217;m 6&#8221;3&#8217;, 270 pounds, I&#8217;m probably a little older than you, but I&#8217;ll squash you like a little freakin&#8217; roach! And a stupid roach at that! A stupid irresponsible roach, you moron! Young kids are watching this! Like I says that have more respect for you, you stupid idiot! If you would have said, &#8216;Yeah, I made some mistakes in the past, but I know, because I&#8217;m a professional wrestler, that young kids are gonna be watchin&#8217; this, and it&#8217;s not good for you to be doing that!&#8217; You moron, there&#8217;s a lot of things adults can do, but you don&#8217;t do it in front of kids you moron! Again, for your own selfish reasons, you go out there pontificating acting like you&#8217;re some ethereal, intelligent guy. And you&#8217;re calling a war hero, calling him a LIAR! You&#8217;re a little, putrid, coward bitch! That&#8217;s what you are Rob Van Dam! And don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re gonna intimidate me! Because you&#8217;re a MIDGET! A MENTAL MIDGET!&#8221;

Take the time to check this out. I got the quote almost fully right, but to hear it is way more shocking.

When I watched that video that Mastadon Tentazord originally posted about Theis' feelings about the Michael Jackson tragedy, it made me so angry. I'm a very easy going guy, and the whole Michael Jackson situation didn't impact me greatly, although I did find it very sad. But the way this guy spoke about shit he has no idea about, including the Jackson situation, and some of the wrestlers mentioned really helped to show how stupid this motherfucker really is. Can someone please get this guy off the fucking internet?
 
The Shockmaster was one of the most terrible gimmicks I have to agree, it just wasn´t meant to succeed even if he didn´t fall on his face.

The Shockmaster himself was Frederick Wayne Ottman a.k.a Typhoon or Tugboat but he was voiced by Ole Anderson.
Now the combination of Tugboat and Ole Anderson doesn´t sound that great and it really wasn´t. Ole never was great on the mic and Tugboat was never good in the ring so on the long run it had to fail.

Even though someone in the creative team must´ve thought it would be a great Idea to have someone debut with a stormtrooper helmet, it looked beyond ridicolous, so his looks wouldn´t have got him over and his in ring work wouldn´t have done it either.

The combination of two average workers doesn´t make a good worker, and sooner or later the Shockmaster would´ve ended as a jobber or the gimmick would´ve been canceled anyway.

So I think that even if he hadn´t fell, he wouldn´t have made a bigger impact than he did.

He even had matches which were ridicoulusly bad and his only promo would´ve sucked this way or the other.

He had no chance of succes to begin with.
 
Well I have a lot to catch up on. I'll edit in the rest as I get to them so I don't put up 10 posts in a row.

Dungeon of Doom: this was a good idea in theory, but only in theory. The problem was that at the end of the day, there just wasn't enough talent in there to make the thing work. For one thing, the War Games match was horrid because it was a WCW all star team (the man with the least success on it was arguably Randy Savage) against a team whose most accomplished member was Meng. How in the world is that possibly an interesting match? The problem was that it was just Hogan against a bunch of monsters. That worked for awhile, but eventually it was just the same thing that we'd seen for years and it got flat out boring.

Giant Gonzalez: if there's ever been a horrible Taker feud, this was it. He was a novelty act and nothing more. he had very limited skills and was only dominating and intimidating because of his awesome size and look. As far as in the ring, he was horrid. That was the problem at the end of the day: he just wasn't a good in ring worker and it caught up with him. Due to his ridiculous size, no one could do anything with him. The gimmick, whatever it was, made no sense and the work made it even worse. It was just all around a bad idea.

Glacier: I actually loved this. I wasn't a fan of MK so I didn't get that it was a rip off of the game. This was actually kind of cool, but the problem was it took FOREVER for him to debut. What was it, 5 months or something like that of promo videos? That's just overkill. I get that they wanted him away from the NWO, but be reasonable. One guy isn't going to make that big of an impact, trust me. Anyway, the idea at least was good, but eventually the story just made NO sense. Glacier against Mortis and Wrath was solid enough I guess, but I wanted wrestling, not karate fights. The back story was too vague, it was overshadowed by the NWO (like WCW in general) and it took too long to debut. There was no way this was going to work.

Saba Simba: Oh boy where to begin? This is the epitome of a stereotype and it wasn't that good. The idea of a savage is fine, but don't make it someone that we might recognize. Simba was an ok idea I suppose, but at the end of the day it was too off the wall. For the WWF, that's saying something. he was too similar to guys like the Islanders or someone like that and there just wasn't enough room on the roster for all of that. He was forgotten in the perils of jobber land and the gimmick got stupider and stupider. An ok idea, but just too generic.

Kennel From Hell: this to me comes down to one issue: the combatants. Did ANYONE think we were going to get a competitive match here? It's AL FREAKING SNOW! When was he ever taken seriously in WWE? Never, that's when. Bossman was just horrid in the HIAC at Mania 15, so why would he be good here? The dogs were just a bad idea as well. Anyone with half a brain could tell you that the wrestlers weren't going to be placed in physical contact with vicious dogs. That simply wasn't going to happen. The idea I guess was ok, but it would have been better suited with something more basic, like barbwire or something like that for them to be worried about. The match was just WAY too over the top and it simply failed as a result.

Papa Shango: I love this character. It's the epitome of something that could be legitimately scary and is a great idea for a heel. Think about it: a wrestler that controls magic. That's mystical yet at the same time believable. However, they just fucked it up with one big problem: he never beat anyone. Tell me, who did Papa Shango ever beat in a non-squash match? Name one person. He was gone after one real feud and other than that just random matches that no one cared about. He was fine in theory, but working an angle like that with Warrior simply wasn't a good idea. He was a great concept, but just handled all wrong. Another big issue that I rant about in my Summerslam review: what kind of voodoo master uses a shoulder breaker? Serioulsy, think about that for a bit. A damn shoulderbreaker? I feel sorry for Charles Wright. The guy seems like he tries so hard yet he just couuldn't get anything to work well until his last character. The guy had some good work, but overall he just never could get it right.

New Blood: this was a GREAT idea in theory. You have all the old guys taking on all the new guys, as the new guys claim they get no respect. That's simply brilliant. However, at the end of the day, it was NWO vs. WCW II. That's all it was with just some different dressing. The company was dead at this time anyway, and on top of that, the leaders of the New Blood, Jarrett and Steiner, weren't new. That's what never worked for me in this. The new blood wasn't new. The old guys did put them over, but it was all faces vs. all heels. Who do you think is going to win out in the end?

Damien Demento: what in the hell was he supposed to be? Some kind of demon thing I guess? I never figured this one out, but mainly because I didn't have time to. he's famous for losing to the Undertaker in the main event of the first Raw and that's it. Seriously, name one other moment in his entire career. I don't htink he ever had another of note. He made no sense, he got no camera time, and he wasn't any good. He was cool because of where he was from: the outer reaches of your mind. Had it not been the comedy era, there could have been some excellent promos from him had he not been such a nutjob.

Shockmaster: this was just always going to fail, and for one simple reason: the whole idea is just stupid. What was he supposed to be anyway, an alien or something? The whole thing was just a bad idea and they had an even worse wrestler in Fred Ottman doing it. The whole thing just was awful and no one, I repeat no one, cared after the initial debut. When Sting, the undisputed biggest face in WCW's history, can't save you, no one can.
 

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