The Final Poll

[Slyfox696]

THIS IS NOT THE BAR ROOM! I SUGGEST YOU REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU POST. PLEASE FOLLOW FORUM RULES!


With that being said, are people still complaining that Dagger did exactly what I said in the very beginning he was allowed to do?

 

[BK Styles]

50% of votes to Dagger. I may have voted for him, but didn't see that coming either. Fair play to him.

 

[SalvIsWin]

What moderating even needs to be done on Wrestlezone forums? The most active sections are the spam sections, and there are rarely times in my own experience in the non-spam, non-wrestling subforum where I thought a moderator needed to change something. This forum, as far as I can tell, seemingly runs itself without much need for a lot of moderators. In fact, from what I have seen, the moderators function more as important characters in the community rather than having a structural function.

My point:

• Anyone receiving a moderator position at this point ultimately means nothing.
• There's no reason to believe that any change would have resulted from this election.
• This election has served as a time-sink and distraction from the general happenings around the forum.

Ultimately, I'm happy Dagger won because it's put a thorn in the side of so many vocal community personas and that's somewhat entertaining. I don't understand the talk about this election as if it had any actual purpose other than whatever ensued from it.

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

>Serious discussion long over
>Still mad
>Still mis-using the word "reactionary"
>Deteriorated own argument
>Implying this is for "cool people"
>Implying everyone doesn't recognize green-text

 

[The Crock]

>Serious discussion long over
>Still mad
>Still mis-using the word "reactionary"
>Deteriorated own argument
>Implying this is for "cool people"
>Implying everyone doesn't recognize green-text

I still have no idea what this means.

 

[The Champ]

What moderating even needs to be done on Wrestlezone forums? The most active sections are the spam sections, and there are rarely times in my own experience in the non-spam, non-wrestling subforum where I thought a moderator needed to change something. This forum, as far as I can tell, seemingly runs itself without much need for a lot of moderators. In fact, from what I have seen, the moderators function more as important characters in the community rather than having a structural function.

My point:

• Anyone receiving a moderator position at this point ultimately means nothing.
• There's no reason to believe that any change would have resulted from this election.
• This election has served as a time-sink and distraction from the general happenings around the forum.

Ultimately, I'm happy Dagger won because it's put a thorn in the side of so many vocal community personas and that's somewhat entertaining. I don't understand the talk about this election as if it had any actual purpose other than whatever ensued from it.

This is a point of view I can get behind.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

With that being said, are people still complaining that Dagger did exactly what I said in the very beginning he was allowed to do?

Translation:

"Crap! Now I either need to deny Dagger the mod position after all of this election nonsense or even worse - work with him. F this job."

 

[The Champ]

Even if it wasn't a prank to start, they should claim it was a prank now as an easy cop out.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

What moderating even needs to be done on Wrestlezone forums? The most active sections are the spam sections, and there are rarely times in my own experience in the non-spam, non-wrestling subforum where I thought a moderator needed to change something. This forum, as far as I can tell, seemingly runs itself without much need for a lot of moderators. In fact, from what I have seen, the moderators function more as important characters in the community rather than having a structural function.

My point:

• Anyone receiving a moderator position at this point ultimately means nothing.
• There's no reason to believe that any change would have resulted from this election.
• This election has served as a time-sink and distraction from the general happenings around the forum.

Ultimately, I'm happy Dagger won because it's put a thorn in the side of so many vocal community personas and that's somewhat entertaining. I don't understand the talk about this election as if it had any actual purpose other than whatever ensued from it.

Did you ever think that they don't appear to need to be moderated because they are already so well moderated?

Did you ever give your two cents regarding Dagger's opinions on having a homosexual child? I would like to hear your thoughts so I can compare them to your thoughts on NorCal's opinions.

Just curious, thanks.

 

[Paralyzer Z]

What moderating even needs to be done on Wrestlezone forums? The most active sections are the spam sections, and there are rarely times in my own experience in the non-spam, non-wrestling subforum where I thought a moderator needed to change something. This forum, as far as I can tell, seemingly runs itself without much need for a lot of moderators. In fact, from what I have seen, the moderators function more as important characters in the community rather than having a structural function.

My point:

• Anyone receiving a moderator position at this point ultimately means nothing.
• There's no reason to believe that any change would have resulted from this election.
• This election has served as a time-sink and distraction from the general happenings around the forum.

Ultimately, I'm happy Dagger won because it's put a thorn in the side of so many vocal community personas and that's somewhat entertaining. I don't understand the talk about this election as if it had any actual purpose other than whatever ensued from it.

I second this.

Spot on post, excellent.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

I'd love to here somebody make an argument as to why the new to the forum users who actually just want to post wrestling instead of messing around in the spam section should vote for Coco.

 

[DirtyJosé]

>Serious discussion long over
>Still mad
>Still mis-using the word "reactionary"
>Deteriorated own argument
>Implying this is for "cool people"
>Implying everyone doesn't recognize green-text

Nah, I'm not mad champ. I'm not the one who's resorted to posting pictures of special needs children.

And no, it's not incorrect. You are reactionary. If someone mentions you, get react with the same fervor Stormtrooper does. If someone says something you don't like, you jump on it. You prefer to dwell silently until something irks you and then all of a sudden you pounce. You prefer reaction. Sorry if you don't understand it; like I said, maybe you should get back to class.

My argument still stands; the attitude you and others like you have shown in this thread have contributed to Dagger's lead. This has been proven in many places here and in other threads. I do play a part in the "ganging up" on Dagger in JGlass's thread. I've never denied that. Come time in this thread though, I've dropped it. You, however, have only looked for fights and insulted others for voting a way you disagree with, which only helps Dagger out in the long run. Again, my point stands just fine.

And yes, we get it; you frequent 4chan and other crap sites like that. Cool man. Good for you. Many people don't know what green text is though. Do you just rip off everything from them?

Still, if anything, this is proving amusing in how you just can't let anything go without having the last word. Please, keep it up.

 

[The Doctor]

>Using lime green to greentext
>not using the much more pleasing to the eye green
>2012

ISHYG DDT OUTTA NOWHERE!!

 

[SalvIsWin]

Did you ever think that they don't appear to need to be moderated because they are already so well moderated?

Two possibilities:

• 1. They don't appear to be in need of moderation because they are so well moderated.
• 2. They don't appear to be in need of moderation because the forum simply doesn't need moderation very often.

You may feel option #1 is more likely, but I don't agree. I would think if that were the case that I would sometimes see threads or posts that are in need of moderation, and I rarely ever do - I really don't think there's enough posting visitors to this site to warrant much moderation.

However, even if option #1 were the case, my original point would still be valid. If the forums are so well moderated that it appears to be running itself, then why is there a need to bring in more moderators? Because the other moderators are working themselves to the bone keeping everything immaculate that they need someone to take some work off their hands? I can't see the argument that a forum which has the vast majority of its posts inside two sections (GSD - spam section; Bar Room - spam section with no need for almost any kind of moderation) has much work for moderators.

Did you ever give your two cents regarding Dagger's opinions on having a homosexual child?

Can't remember. I think I may have just read the thread about it and decided not to post because it was already ten pages long and didn't need further comment. Obviously I think what Dagger said was stupid and homophobic.

My views on homosexuality are pretty clear illustrated here: http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=200742

 

[Miko]

I'd love to here somebody make an argument as to why the new to the forum users who actually just want to post wrestling instead of messing around in the spam section should vote for Coco.

Thats okay, I am still yet to hear an argument as to why Dagger would make a good mod.

New posters are just as welcome to post spam as non spam, but if they'd rather rather contribute to the humdrum of their preffered but already well looked after sections then what can you do.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Thats okay, I am still yet to hear an argument as to why Dagger would make a good mod.

New posters are just as welcome to post spam as non spam, but if they'd rather rather contribute to the humdrum of their preffered but already well looked after sections then what can you do.

Let's be honest here, most new users come into the spam sections and make a fool of themselves and then longtime users begin to punish them for their mistake's. Something Coco/everyone else has done nothing but do, why should that be encouraged by making the man the king of the section?

 

[Miko]

Let's be honest here, most new users come into the spam sections and make a fool of themselves and then longtime users begin to punish them for their mistake's. Something Coco/everyone else has done nothing but do, why should that be encouraged by making the man the king of the section?

No, Coco punishes everyone thats stupid. No problem there. Your only thinking of the people that come in and make threads with titles like "Bring it bitch!" Because they get noticed more. Many act normal and get on fine, most have turned into regulars such as your truly. That argument holds no water.

Why vote Coco king of spam? Well, one theme I've noticed here is people saying "whats going to change around here?" You dont know until you give the only person with a different agenda a chance, do you? That was an opportunity this thing provided.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I'd love to here somebody make an argument as to why the new to the forum users who actually just want to post wrestling instead of messing around in the spam section should vote for Coco.

They don't. People who are active in those sections and seasoned members would have a reason to vote for him, and there are many of them as you well know. Would you say the same if Dagger was to ultimately be running for VG mod, or can you answer me honestly the proportion of people you think join a wrestling forum to discuss video games and what there would be on offer to that phenomenally insignificant of minorities?

Besides that, there are the benefits of the wrestling spam sections. I swear if every new user was immediately aware of them, people would barely touch the non-spam wrestlings and save having to abide by rules half of them don't fully comprehend.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Two possibilities:

• 1. They don't appear to be in need of moderation because they are so well moderated.
• 2. They don't appear to be in need of moderation because the forum simply doesn't need moderation very often.

You may feel option #1 is more likely, but I don't agree. I would think if that were the case that I would sometimes see threads or posts that are in need of moderation, and I rarely ever do - I really don't think there's enough posting visitors to this site to warrant much moderation.

However, even if option #1 were the case, my original point would still be valid. If the forums are so well moderated that it appears to be running itself, then why is there a need to bring in more moderators? Because the other moderators are working themselves to the bone keeping everything immaculate that they need someone to take some work off their hands? I can't see the argument that a forum which has the vast majority of its posts inside two sections (GSD - spam section; Bar Room - spam section with no need for almost any kind of moderation) has much work for moderators.

Congrats on your original point that most people agree with including me. I don't think the Admins set this up under the premise of need. When most were having discussions regarding "need" they were comparing the "need" for a Spam mod compared to other sections or namely a WWE Mod.

Can't remember. I think I may have just read the thread about it and decided not to post because it was already ten pages long and didn't need further comment. Obviously I think what Dagger said was stupid and homophobic.

And yet you voted for him and are celebrating his victory. When we have another election and NorCal throws his hat in the ring to mod again I am happy to hear he has your support.

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

You may feel option #1 is more likely, but I don't agree. I would think if that were the case that I would sometimes see threads or posts that are in need of moderation, and I rarely ever do - I really don't think there's enough posting visitors to this site to warrant much moderation.

This guy really has no idea.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Two possibilities:

• 1. They don't appear to be in need of moderation because they are so well moderated.
• 2. They don't appear to be in need of moderation because the forum simply doesn't need moderation very often.

You may feel option #1 is more likely, but I don't agree. I would think if that were the case that I would sometimes see threads or posts that are in need of moderation, and I rarely ever do - I really don't think there's enough posting visitors to this site to warrant much moderation.

However, even if option #1 were the case, my original point would still be valid. If the forums are so well moderated that it appears to be running itself, then why is there a need to bring in more moderators? Because the other moderators are working themselves to the bone keeping everything immaculate that they need someone to take some work off their hands? I can't see the argument that a forum which has the vast majority of its posts inside two sections (GSD - spam section; Bar Room - spam section with no need for almost any kind of moderation) has much work for moderators.

Yeah dude, I take that as an insult. Do you know how much effort Nick and I put into cleaning the WWE Section? I know that I delete upwards of 24 posts a day on good days and I know Nick is right there with me. Not to mention the thread merging, putting threads in the correct section, doling out warnings/infractions, and checking IPs for potential alts. You have no idea what goes on and I'd appreciate it if you didn't shortchange the workload we have.

 

[Lee]

You may feel option #1 is more likely, but I don't agree. I would think if that were the case that I would sometimes see threads or posts that are in need of moderation, and I rarely ever do - I really don't think there's enough posting visitors to this site to warrant much moderation.

Don't be so stupid.

 

[SalvIsWin]

This guy really has no idea.

Let's hear your argument. You feel like you do a lot of work?

And yet you voted for him and are celebrating his victory. When we have another election and NorCal throws his hat in the ring to mod again I am happy to hear he has your support.

The implication here is that Dagger's homophobia is equivalent to NorCal's racism & bigotry, and I don't think it is. The sheer belligerency of NorCal's comments in the sexual racism thread would hesitate me to vote for him far more than Dagger's homophobia did. However, if it was the best choice, I would vote for NorCal, sure.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Let's hear your argument. You feel like you do a lot of work?




The implication here is that Dagger's homophobia is equivalent to NorCal's racism & bigotry, and I don't think it is. The sheer belligerency of NorCal's comments in the sexual racism thread would hesitate me to vote for him far more than Dagger's homophobia did. However, if it was the best choice, I would vote for NorCal, sure.

It would be. Norcal was an excellent mod.

 

[Xemmy]

Dagger.