The Eve/Heel-Turn Angle

[D-Man]

Last night, Raw opened with Eve's foot being shoved in her mouth as she was caught in the act of using superstars such as John Cena and Zack Ryder in order to further her career in the WWE.

We've all heard for a while that the WWE was going to take a stab at Eve Torres heel-turn. However considering that she's been a major player in the recent angle involving Kane, Cena, and Ryder, we saw a major Divas angle open the Raw broadcast for the first time in... well... possibly EVER.

Being that Eve's turn is directly associated with the major players of the Raw Supershow, she's instantly been transformed into a heel not only on paper, but she seemed to really tug at the audiences emotional strings last night. For a long time, many other posters like myself felt that involving Divas with major male-players on Raw or Smackdown could do wonders for the division. Finally, the WWE is taking a stab at this.

Even though it's still in its infantile stages, do you think the WWE will continue to involve Eve with Ryder and Cena? Can this lead to more attention being put on the Divas division in the form of using the proven-successful main event card as a conduit for success? Or will the WWE follow their normal stride and toss everything into the shitter?

Let's discuss the angle here. And please, NO SPAMMING!

 

[Nate DaMac]

I didn't see the point. Maybe creative has some plans for her, say, having a Diva go after Eve because she wants Ryder or something. I don't know.


I just see it as a way to switch up the dynamic of the weekly 6 woman tag matches. Now we can put Eve with the Bellas against Kelly Kelly, Alicia Fox, and... whoever else is around. That's inevitably going to be the outcome.

 

[prush80]

I liked it, I thought EVE did a good job. So here is what I see playing out: Eve will will not lose as a heel diva. Kharma will debut on the Smackdown side, getting in a feud with The Glamazon. Then, possibly at Royal Rumble. Kharma and Eve;s paths will cross setting up a match at Mania 29. Simple formula, but proven that it works

 

[HeenanGorilla]

I think this is a move to try to get Eve a movie role. They have zoomed in on her "real tears" several times and for WAY TOO LONG a time on recent shows. Maybe they want her to star in Marine 17 or some other WWE movie. I think she is nice to look at, but her acting is BRUTALLY awful. Or she's a psycho...there were some seeds planted there as well. The aggressive try for a kiss last night and the extended crying....which came from nothing. She is either a psycho or an awful actress. My money is on both.

 

[Trevez]

I really have no clue where Vince/HHH are going with this story. I thought the start of RAW was very weird last night with Eve talking to the Bella's saying that she was using Zack Ryder and John Cena.
I am now more confused than ever! When Zack Ryder comes back will it be like it never happened? Has all the stuff to do with Kane gone to her head and made her crazy? Really no idea but interested in where it is going

 

[RKOrob]

I really don't know where they're going with this. The whole idea of a diva using the male superstars to get to the top is a great storyline but they've blown her cover straight away, so there doesn't seem to be anywhere else for the storyline to go. It's a case of bad timing really, cause they can't throw a Cena/Eve storyline into the works with wrestlemania coming up.

 

[hatehabsforever]

I thought the execution of the angle was a little bit odd. Last night was really the first even hint of a heel turn by Eve. Sure, we had her interaction with Cena last week out by the ambulance, but that wasn't a heel turn. Only tonight, when she started insulting Ryder, talking of using Cena, and just generally acting like a bitch, would I call it a heel turn. And literally 2 minutes later, she gets busted, and called out in the ring by Cena. So I'm not really sure where things go from here. If Ryder in on to her, and Cena is on to her, what's her next move?

It would have made more sense to me had we see the bitch side of her, and heard her scheming, without her getting caught. Then we could watch her interaction with Cena and/or Ryder unfold, resulting in her getting caught down the road. She could continue to dupe Cena, likely distracting him from his program with the Rock (it would distract me for sure), only to get busted later. And even then, I'm not sure how much legs this heel turn would have.

I think Nate likely has it right. This is simply shifting the numbers of faces versus heels within the divas division, without much forethought or planning. Kind of an odd way to begin the show, right on the heels of the PPV, especially with so much else on the go on the road to Wrestlemania.

 

[Commander Batpope]

It was weird the way they started the show. I just felt they could've done better with it, instead of just turning her out of the blue. I'm not sure where they're gonna go with this.

 

[FightOwensFight]

I could certainly see this going the psycho angle. Just throwing herself at Cena and then having a breakdown in the ring kind of points at that. Probably easier for Eve to pull off because she has shown on numerous occasions her inability to display believable emotion. Having her just not in control of her emotions. Lots of crying. Maybe talking to herself. She could probably pull it off and it could at a something interesting to the Divas scene.

 

[Olan]

I think Eve's heel turn is the best thing to happen for her and the Diva's division in a longtime. She already has more heat than many of the heel male wrestlers.
But what does happen next? With the belief they are building towrd Beth/Kharma for WRESTLEMANIA I don't see Eve winning the title. She can start 'hurting' divas yes but no belt.
I think the interesting thing is who does she recruit? If she is going to 'feud' with Ryder and/or Cena which male wrestler doe she use? She will need a midcarder that is ready for a big push so who will that be: mason Ryan? zeke?

 

[Philly88]

I do not really see a point considering the divas matches last about 1-2 minutes long anyways. I do not really see them continuing the angle with Cena and Ryder. Thinking about it more though maybe it is good since it seems like the divas matches on raw have the same people every week. Might be good to change up I guess.

 

[covieo81]

maybe theyre just setting up a cena/eve match for summerslam. who else does he have to face really?? lol. if eve was a better actress i think it might have looked mor believable over the last few weeks but imo she is horrible. albeit fuckin hot. not really sure where wwe is goin with the diva storylines. natalya farts as much as i do. karma hasnt been seen in a few weeks. beth phoenix has nothin else to do. other than eye candy i dont think they have any direction with the divas whatsoever. its just a way of changing eves character i think thats all this is gonna be. it will be forgotten and over by WM.

 

[thisiskevin32]

I don't think this is as much of a heel turn as it is a way to save face with Cena.

The whole embrace the hate storyline is over and it left a weird taste in everyones mouth because of the misdirection with Cena. His character was left in the middle between Heel and Face and creative wanted a way to influence the audience back to the Face side.

Next thing you know, Eve is the evil one, Cena is making fun of her, using clever taglines to get the audience into him (hoeski[sp?]) and saying how he lost a great friend in Ryder. The audience ate it up, and what do you know, Cena is back to babyface.

Let me clarify I am not saying that Eve ISN'T turning heel, I just think they used that angle to get Cena back to face.

 

[IHW]

I haven't been into the divas division for a long, long time. I feel they are put into to many quick matches, normally being multiple person tag team matches.
Eve is now a character, not just another pretty face.
Natalya is becoming a character as well.

The Eve heel turn is adding a little interest to the once great divas division. Not much, bit still some.

 

[oldschool4ever]

i think they should pair her with kane. explain her behavior by having her embrace the hate. she is good to look at but maybe if they disfigured her a bit to have her suite kanes look. have we ever seen a female wrestler with a mask. or if that sounds stupid just have her paired with kane but go around breaking up diva friendships with male superstars to set up a fued with kane. to start i would have her fool zack upon his return that she does have feelings for him and once he falls for it she can start laughing psychotic like. queue a face female diva. i dont know put one of the nxt divas with him. i know ive proposed quite a mess of ideas here. let me know if any of them are worthy of storyline.

 

[Deadlysyns]

its obvious they did this so that Zack Ryder and Cena could both stay face end of story lol you look to much into it sure it may go somewhere but with Cena winning the Ambulance match they had to find a way to keep it from being completely dropped they don't want to turn Cena or Ryder heel so turn the person no one cares about Heel. Cena and Ryder remain friends and they can close the Kane/Cena feud without problems

 

[schaeffershawn]

Throughout the annals of wrestling history a few things have been true. First women wrestlers don't draw. Not in meaniningful ways anyway. Second the surefire way to get one over in a managers role is to turn them into an oppertunistic ****. Think Baby Doll, Lorri Fulington (the sandmans wife), Lady Bloosem, Stephanie McMahon, Vickie Guerror, Lita and oh so many others. That is clearly what they are going for with this. Does it work? Who knows? Most of those women were more convincing then Eve.

 

[RD_21]

Just like the second poster said all I could think was WHY?

I don't really care that she turned heel as it may help Ryder when he comes back if she has a new protege, but I think they should have let her be a bitch for a while without the manipulated players being informed.

That way you would have look forward to her getting catched and finally exposed for what she was.

To me it was done like that because they wanted to break the tie between Cena and her so Cena could focus on The Rock. I think it would have been better if she was with Kane all along (not like in a couple together, because it's the last thing Kane need).

I don't know it just seem weird because they did it out of the blue with no prior clues and it felt rushed.

 

[jrichardson25]

I have to agree with everyone. The start was really odd last night. Not entirely sure what to think of it. I feel as though it could be a way to elevate the division and bring the divas to the forefront (well as much as they possibly could be) and do some restructuring.

I don't feel like Eve was the best choice for this stab to be honest. Beth Phoenix is at the top of the division. To elevate you really have to start at the top. So as long as Beth isn't part of the elevation it won't work ultimately. That's like putting random jobber A in the main event as a way to bring up the midcard... doesn't work so well...

Do I hope it works? Yes. It would help build more and tie the divisions together better.

 

[That Don Guy]

I don't think this is as much of a heel turn as it is a way to save face with Cena.

The whole embrace the hate storyline is over and it left a weird taste in everyones mouth because of the misdirection with Cena. His character was left in the middle between Heel and Face and creative wanted a way to influence the audience back to the Face side.

Next thing you know, Eve is the evil one, Cena is making fun of her, using clever taglines to get the audience into him (hoeski[sp?]) and saying how he lost a great friend in Ryder. The audience ate it up, and what do you know, Cena is back to babyface.

Let me clarify I am not saying that Eve ISN'T turning heel, I just think they used that angle to get Cena back to face.

I couldn't have said it better. I think WWE feels it needs to stuff "Cena is a face, dammit!" down everybody's throats now that there are no more PPVs before The Cena-Rock Show (which, as far as every non-wrestling show like Entertainment Tonight is concerned, is what WrestleMania is this year), and having it look like Cena was "stealing" Eve from Zack wasn't exactly moving things in that direction. (Plus, "the version I heard was," at Elimination Chamber, WWE Security was removing all camera-facing Cena-hating signs.)

Unless there's some sort of Rock heel turn (which I doubt, as it might affect his Hollywood marketability), here's how I see the main event at WM going down:
"STF! Rock inches his way towards the ropes...and makes it!
People's Elbow! Rock Bottom! One...two...Cena kicks out with authority (trademark WWE)!
Attitude Adjustment! One...two...ONLY a two!
Cena with a schoolboy rollup...one...two...three! Cena wins! Rock raises Cena's hand in victory! Yet another WrestleMania Happy Ending! Wait - what's this? Here comes Stone Cold Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels (this would work so much better with Hogan, if TNA didn't have him), and they're raising Cena in tribute! The torch is "officially" passed - all hail the Cena Era! BUY CENA STUFF!"

 

[drummerboy144]

I don't think this is as much of a heel turn as it is a way to save face with Cena.

The whole embrace the hate storyline is over and it left a weird taste in everyones mouth because of the misdirection with Cena. His character was left in the middle between Heel and Face and creative wanted a way to influence the audience back to the Face side.

Next thing you know, Eve is the evil one, Cena is making fun of her, using clever taglines to get the audience into him (hoeski[sp?]) and saying how he lost a great friend in Ryder. The audience ate it up, and what do you know, Cena is back to babyface.

Let me clarify I am not saying that Eve ISN'T turning heel, I just think they used that angle to get Cena back to face.

It wasnt weird for me because i think the same thing, eve turns, cena caught her, cena is the good guy, i dont think eve is the important factor in this angle is cena being the good guy like always, we'll see in the coming weeks but i dont think much will happen between cena and eve with the rock coming back to raw in the next few weeks.

 

[Notorious718]

I was a little caught off guard with her heel turn last night. Sure there have been reports that WWE was possibly going to turn Eve heel but for those who don't follow internet dirtsheets, this might seem odd considering there's been little to no build up for her heel turn. Add to the fact that she already got busted by Cena for scheming and what we've got is an angle taking a path I'm not sure of. Habs nailed it and I agree... I would've preferred that Eve wasn't busted this early. Still, I am somewhat curious to see where they go with her next. I'm not sure if she'll be involved with Cena anymore and but quite frankly, with Wrestlemania coming soon, I don't think I'll have much interest in that happening. I guess we'll see.

 

[TheJujuMan]

I was in shock... but ONLY at RAW opening with something different!

Eve turning heel needed to happen as Ryder is "out" for a while and the Kane/Cena fued appears to have run it's course. I agree with some people that Cena should turn heel ASAP - and maybe his pushing Eve away is just a work? I mean how much heat could Cena get if he sided with Eve during the next segment Ryder is in?? That would be Vickie Guererro-type heat!

The bottom line is that RAW needed another Michele McCool or Maryese type heel. Eve can easily slide into that model and be a pretty decent foil against Kellyx2. She might even side with the Glamazon and kick Natalia out of that partnership. Let's face it, Naddie needs a new direction. Her heel turn isn't working and she needs to be relevant again soon... sans fart noises!

 

[RKOx7]

I've got mixed feelings about what went down on RAW. I thought the heel turn was pretty great, up until Eve's foot got shoved into her mouth with John Cena overhearing everything. It made her go from a powerful, manipulative, heel to a pathetic one in seconds. When John Cena insults Divas, it just makes things go bad. It happened when John Cena spent months insulting Lita, and now he's doing the same to Eve.

The thing about the heel turn and Eve standing with the major players that intrigues me though is that it reminds me of heel Trish Stratus. Eve as a heel Diva can do wonders for the division. They just need to give Divas a few extra minutes in their matches and allow them to turn up the aggression.

It isn't hard to make a Diva who can't wrestle, at least know how to fight. Eve knows how to wrestle, but all you really need to do is now allow Eve to have some angles with some superstars, while carrying the Divas Championship, or feuding with the Divas Champion and it will send waves through the division... much like Y2J/Christian/Trish... or Edge/Kane/Lita - Edge/Matt/Lita.

It just seems to me the more promiscuous, devious heel Divas of the past have always been the ones to REALLY have memorable moments. Trish w/ Christian, Lita w/ Edge... the time Melina and Batista had a quickie in the locker room while MNM was feuding with Tista and someone else for the tag titles, and more.

 

[The Brain]

I think WWE may have dropped the ball on this one. I was starting to think about Ryder vs. Kane at mania. That match doesn't do much for me but throw in some drama with Eve and it could have been something. I pictured Kane destroying Ryder throughout the match as a tearful Eve came to ringside begging Kane to stop. Kane would then turn his attention to Eve and she would need Ryder to collect the strength and courage to overcome the monster and rescue her. After an unlikely victory Ryder and Eve embrace and finally they are more than just friends. Could have been a nice moment.