The Doctor's Office

[The Doctor]

The question is who will be bigger? Or better yet, who do you want to be bigger? Barrett or Danielson?

I think they're both awesome, but Danielson being big would be a huge success story. Here's a guy not known for his charisma and mic skills (though he does have both) and he's a smaller guy, making it big in the biggest wrestling company in the world. It would crush all the people who say that Vince only pushes guys he's made himself.

Barrett has the look, the mic skills, and good ring skills, but him being a champion wouldn't be as much of a surprise or success story as Danielson.

Sorry about the late reply, spend the last 3 hours with no Internet -.-

Well saw on 24wrestling that Wrestling Observer Newsletter had the thought of taking the pro and winner of NXT and challenging for the Unified tag team championship at Fatal 4 way as I mentioned, but if Otunga had won they also had plans of putting him in a feud with Truth.

Well I would've actually thought that Barrett would've gone to Smackdown when he said he'd be future world heavyweight champion, it'd make sense to go after the "weaker" champion who is Jack Swagger compared to challenging John Cena.

Makes sense. Unfortunately, heel v. heel and all that.

Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is awesome.

 

[Ferbian]

Heel vs Heel, meh Wade Barrett could probably make a great tweener.

I'm gonna have Chair Shot Reality do some rant with the title "Please Vince, let Barrett rip through the roster(s)"

Ps: congratz on the 3k.

 

[The Doctor]

Goodness, we blew right through the 3K. Amazing. Never would have thought this would take off like it did.

Lulz, chair shot reality.

Barrett would be a good heel-leaning-tweener, as a pay-for-hire guy. "It's just business...don't take it personally."

 

[DirtyJosé]

everything you said makes sense, except for 2 things.

1. Barrett won a PPV title match, why would he choose to go in a Fatal 4-Way, instead of a 1 on 1 match?
2. Barrett can't be expected to compete against the WWE champ, whoever it is, because he's a rookie.
3. Barrett is a heel, and going after DiBiasi (another heel) for the Million $ belt creates a feud that fans can't get into.

I could maybe see Barrett challenging Cena at Money In The Bank, but it would be a 1-off, and then he would feud with R-Truth or something.

1. I don't think Barrett should debut at the Fatal 4-Way; not enough time to build up anything meaningful. Best wait until the next PPV.

2. Sure he can. He's been working for 6+ years, he's not a total rookie. And unlike almost all of the NXT Season 1 cast, he already looks natural in the ring and alongside other top players like Jericho. I can't stand this mentality that all rookies have to toil in the undercard on Raw for 5-8 years before you can make a legitimate main event run. Give him the ball, see if he can run with it. If Swagger and Sheamus can make that jump, Barrett can.

3. It could if they put R-Truth in it as. I haven't seen a good three way angle in a while. Could be because there haven't been very many good three way angles. But the possibility is there.

 

[The Doctor]

What about the Kofi/McIntyre/Hardy feud?

I prefer R-Truth as a US Champion than feuding for the MDC. I think Evan Bourne will be his next feud, maybe, and Miz will move to the Main Event.

Miz to win MITB at the PPV!

 

[The People's Peep]

As much as I want to see it, I dont expect The Miz to be in the ME until maybe next year. Of course its possible for him to win it and you bet I would be marking out incredibly hard, but I dont see that happening.

 

[Stormtrooper]

1. I don't think Barrett should debut at the Fatal 4-Way; not enough time to build up anything meaningful. Best wait until the next PPV.

I think you misunderstood me. I said he SHOULDN'T debut at F4W, because he should try and get a 1 on 1 match, not a 4 way.

2. Sure he can. He's been working for 6+ years, he's not a total rookie. And unlike almost all of the NXT Season 1 cast, he already looks natural in the ring and alongside other top players like Jericho. I can't stand this mentality that all rookies have to toil in the undercard on Raw for 5-8 years before you can make a legitimate main event run. Give him the ball, see if he can run with it. If Swagger and Sheamus can make that jump, Barrett can.

In that case, the WWE fans should believe that Daniel Bryan Danielson should be #1 contender because he has been wrestling for 10 years.... That's asinine. He's a rookie that no one in WWE heard of 4 months ago, and as such fans won't believe him a credible opponent for Cena, or any Worlds Champion.

3. It could if they put R-Truth in it as. I haven't seen a good three way angle in a while. Could be because there haven't been very many good three way angles. But the possibility is there.

Doc said it with Kofi/Drew/Hardy. Plus, what does R-Truth have to do with Ted DiBiasi? Truth's the US champ feuding with Jericho, why would he feud with DiBiasi. That mini-storyline is over already. DiBiasi moved on by hiring Virgil, and Truth moved on winning the US title.

Oh, and congrats Doc on reaching 3000 posts in your thread of pure awesome.

 

[DirtyJosé]

I think you misunderstood me. I said he SHOULDN'T debut at F4W, because he should try and get a 1 on 1 match, not a 4 way.

Not every post breakdown is done to disagree. In this case, I was agreeing with you. I think...

In that case, the WWE fans should believe that Daniel Bryan Danielson should be #1 contender because he has been wrestling for 10 years.... That's asinine. He's a rookie that no one in WWE heard of 4 months ago, and as such fans won't believe him a credible opponent for Cena, or any Worlds Champion.

Like it or not, Sheamus made that jump successfully. Swagger still has some things to prove, but Sheamus took a decent title run, came out of it with some momentum through 2 high profile PPV matches, and is back in the title scene again. Proving credibility isn't solely about how long a star has been known, but whether or not he feels like a fit with those around him. I think Barrett can fit in at the top of the card quite well, if he plays it right and if it is done with patience.

Doc said it with Kofi/Drew/Hardy. Plus, what does R-Truth have to do with Ted DiBiasi? Truth's the US champ feuding with Jericho, why would he feud with DiBiasi. That mini-storyline is over already. DiBiasi moved on by hiring Virgil, and Truth moved on winning the US title.

I had totally forgot about Truth winning the belt when I suggested this, so replace him with any other face with some exposure like John Morrison or something.

Oh, and congrats Doc on reaching 3000 posts in your thread of pure awesome.

Indeed!

 

[The Doctor]

Thanks for the congrats, and also Stormtrooper I was just looking around WWEU, and even all the marks love Danielson. It's crazy how over he's gotten. The WWE played this storyline perfectly.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Not every post breakdown is done to disagree. In this case, I was agreeing with you. I think...

Yeah, there was probably a misunderstanding there. My bad. I thought you were thinking I said he should challenge for the title at F4W. We are in agreement, so my apologies.

Like it or not, Sheamus made that jump successfully. Swagger still has some things to prove, but Sheamus took a decent title run, came out of it with some momentum through 2 high profile PPV matches, and is back in the title scene again. Proving credibility isn't solely about how long a star has been known, but whether or not he feels like a fit with those around him. I think Barrett can fit in at the top of the card quite well, if he plays it right and if it is done with patience.

It's not about whether the guy is comfortable in the Main Event, it's about whether the fans are comfortable with him in the Main Event. Barrett has been on WWE TV for 3 or 4 months, being called a ROOKIE. Hence why the WWE fans won't believe him a credible Main Eventer right out of the gate. Give him a strong showing in a losing effort against Cena and you get yourself a bona-fide upper midcard guy, that has potential for Main Event. Either way, you can't take a rookie and give him the Worlds Championship. Barrett earned a shot, not a title run/main event status.

Sheamus was known well on ECW, then moved to RAW and got pushed for a couple months before being named #1 contender (in a move that no one liked). Then they used the belt to further his push. When he was on TV as WWE Champ, he started getting ZERO heat. It took his Triple H feud (after he lost he belt) to get Sheamus the Main Event heat that he gets now.

I had totally forgot about Truth winning the belt when I suggested this, so replace him with any other face with some exposure like John Morrison or something.

I still don't understand why he should feud with DiBiasi. Why would DiBiasi hire Barrett to be his Man-Servant? Especially considering DiBiasi hired the OG Man-Servant Virgil. And why would Barrett be willing to degrade himself to be a Man-Servant? Yes he may be all about the money, but he's a wrestler, and when a wrestler is given the choice to choose between any title he wants to challenge for, you don't choose some fake prop title, you choose the top prize. That's just logic. More money comes out of wining the world title then winning some prop and selling it back for a 1-time fee.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Thanks for the congrats, and also Stormtrooper I was just looking around WWEU, and even all the marks love Danielson. It's crazy how over he's gotten. The WWE played this storyline perfectly.

I agree, he has gotten over, and I'm happy, because I like Daniel Bryan Danielson. I just think Barrett has potential to be a super-duper-star almost on Cena/Orton levels. DBD is more likely a Chris Jericho (pre return) type with less talking ability, an all around awesome guy in the ring who isn't the face of the company, but get a couple title runs.

Also, my point was more to say that the experience these guys have outside of WWE is not looked at as experience to the casual WWE fans. Barrett is a rookie, regardless of his time spent in wrestling. DBD is a rookie too, albeit with a lot of work in the indies. It's just like in sports with minor leagues. Regardless of how long a player spends in the minors, his first year in the big leagues he is considered a rookie. Ichiro Suzuki of the Seattle Mariners won Rookie of the Year after spending something like 10 years in Japan. It's the same type of thing with all these WWE rookies. Experience outside the WWE doesn't amount to anything once you hit the big-time.

Plus they like DBD not because he's an internet darling/indy guy, they like him because of how WWE is booking him (awesomely picking on Michael Cole).

 

[The Doctor]

So the NXT Season 2 profiles are up, and Kaval has the shortest bio. Eli Cottonwood's and Percy Watson's ones are really long. And it seems every rookie has some kind of background in football.

Someone should make some marching band music and add electric guitars to it. Heavy metal marching band!

 

[Stormtrooper]

So the NXT Season 2 profiles are up, and Kaval has the shortest bio. Eli Cottonwood's and Percy Watson's ones are really long. And it seems every rookie has some kind of background in football.

I'm surprised Michael Cole actually praised Kaval when he spoke about him. I still would put an over/under of 143.5 for the number of times MC makes a bad joke about Kaval having 1 name like Madonna.

Someone should make some marching band music and add electric guitars to it. Heavy metal marching band!

HEAVY METAL MARCHING BAND FTMFW! That would have made my years playing football games with the band tolerable. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some Heavy metal songs that made their way into Marching band programs. No guitars though likely, since they wouldn't work well with marching bands.

 

[The Doctor]

I was just trying to think of a good theme for Alex Riley, and the Spirit Squad song would be great but only if it were heavier and had some guitars added.

 

[DirtyJosé]

I still don't understand why he should feud with DiBiasi. Why would DiBiasi hire Barrett to be his Man-Servant? Especially considering DiBiasi hired the OG Man-Servant Virgil. And why would Barrett be willing to degrade himself to be a Man-Servant? Yes he may be all about the money, but he's a wrestler, and when a wrestler is given the choice to choose between any title he wants to challenge for, you don't choose some fake prop title, you choose the top prize. That's just logic. More money comes out of wining the world title then winning some prop and selling it back for a 1-time fee.

You do if said fake prop title has immense value that is stated every time it appears (it's part of the name) that he could easily sell back to DiBiase for a profit.

Stormtrooper85, I don't see enough of you outside of this thread. That's probably my fault more than yours. Just wanted to say it's fun bs'ing with you.

 

[The Doctor]

Exactly. Barrett could win it, sell it, and make the cash from the PPV ME and the cash from selling DiBiase his own title back.

 

[Remix]

That was my theory, wasn't it Doctor?

 

[The Doctor]

Yes, yes. I stole it from you.

 

[Remix]

You're welcome to it. Share and share alike.

 

[Stormtrooper]

1. I would rather get the worlds title, and the subsequent paychecks that come after that, then get a 1 time payment of 1,000,000 (what you can assume the Million Dollar Title is worth). If he gets the belt, Ted can get a new belt worth more then that, making it obsolete.
2. The Million Dollar belt is a fake prop title. WWE does not recognize it as an official championship, hence it's a fake title, and a prop title.
3. Apparently I'm an idiot. I have always misspelled Ted DiBiase's name. My bad.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

So like

What Digger Class do you usually play on, Dawc?

 

[The Doctor]

All of them.


So how HILARIOUS was that Kozlov dance? I was legit loling.

 

[DirtyJosé]

Doc, I owe you green rep for a variety of different posts in the last hour, but I'm out at the moment.

 

[The Doctor]

Tis fine, tis fine.

 

[Dave]

Kozlov's dance was amazing.

Simply amazing.