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The Dark Knight Rises - SPOILERS... That's right, I said SPOILERS.
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Big Nick Dudley
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Wank means shit, right? I don't speak English-English.
I think what did it was the space of time the film was supposed to encompass. I mean it covered many weeks. It's no wonder what we saw was full of details.-I noticed something bigger the second time around - the entire thing felt a bit rushed (odd for a near three hour film, I know). The dialogue more than anything. The conversations were very quick and conveniently provided too much information. The Dark Knight didn't have that problem.
Yeah, it's not good.Wank means shit, right? I don't speak English-English.
I went to the Thurday/Friday midnight premiere. At the end of the movie the entire theater cheered and gave the movie a standing ovation and applause. I'd say it went over well.
I think this was the best film of the series, but it wasn't without it's flaws. It cut down on some of the stuff that hurt TDK, primarily an overabundance or reliance on dialogue to convey messages and sub-text that should have been done through acting rather than long drawn out speeches. With that here are the things that hurt the movie for me.
* Bane's Voice. I'm sorry, but when the villain sounds like a mix between Sean Connery and Darth Vader, there's a problem. Direct example, the line where Bane says "The day is mine Batman", sounds just like Connery, and that took a little bit away from the villain at times.
* Apparently Bane was the spokesperson for Occupy Wall St. This movie had very political overtones/undertones (which ever you prefer to use to describe it). However it did show both sides of that argument and both sides of that reality. I didn't care for it at times because I don't care to mix my politics and my movies so much, and I don't think Batman should really be used as a vehicle for one sides agenda or the other.
* Regardless of some peoples sentiments, Anne Hathaway was useless, needless, took away from the film, it could have been the same or better without her, she was NOT good as Catwoman, her fight scenes were incredibly unbelievable, and she clearly couldn't determine how to portray the character in any definitive way, constantly slipping into more of a Michelle Pfeiffer/Batman Returns Catwoman in a movie where that character simply doesn't fit or belong. I don't care if she inspired a little pup tent in your pants because she's hot, she was horrible and arguably the worst thing in this movie. The just wanted to fit more Batman characters in the movie which is why she was there, her inclusion was unnecessary as it existed and took away from the movie, end of story there.
* BATMAN DOESN'T QUIT!!! That's the biggest flaw in this whole movie, Batman doesn't quit!!! All through the comics it's quite clear that until he is no longer able, or is dead, Bruce Wayne will always be Batman, and he will never stop being Batman for any reason.
* How does Bruce Wayne get back to Gotham for one, and two how did he have enough time to make the big Batman symbol out of fire in the building??? Those things just didn't add up.
On the flip side, this movie was amazing minus some of those nit-picking flaws.
* Bane was far better than the Joker, as a villain, as a character, and as a threat to Batman. Bane would make the Joker shit his pants, because he'd know this guy doesn't fuck around! He doesn't have time for games, he's just here to break you, impose his will, and bring about pain and horror. He is a true super villain. He doesn't want to have talks about the psychology of society, he isn't concerned with anarchy and chaos. He has a plan, a plan for destruction and he's going to execute that plan flawlessly and tactfully. He's got the resources to bring the city to it's knees, and he's got the wits, the influence, and the physical tools to stand against anyone. He's not running around with a bunch of rag-tag misfits who want to stir up some shit to make some kind of point. He's pure fucking evil who simply wants to make people suffer. The Joker simply doesn't stand to that, even if the guy who played him died tragically, or if the charater has become very popular.
* In this movie we get to see Bruce Wayne go through so much more, overcome so much more, and ultimately BE so much more than in the previous films. His struggle is greater, his conflict is greater, the stakes are higher, the villain is seemingly unstoppable, and his hopes slimmer. They just get into a lot more depth here than ever before, which is necessary for the hero to prevail.
* This movie was much more emotional and moving than the last two. Through the conflict, through the struggle, this movie simply has more heart than the others mustered up. We see it from all sides, Bruce Wayne, Selena Kyle, Bane, Commissioner Gordon, John Blake, Talia al Ghul, etc....
* The fight scenes between Bane and Batman were very very powerful, and this goes into the previous point about this movie being much more emotional and moving. The lack of music during the first fight really put you there and put an exclamation point on it. You could feel the gravity of what was going on, and knowing what was going to happen and watching it unfold really created a stir inside. What transpired was as much visual and physical as it was mental and emotional, and you could feel that. The second fight scene was no less great, watching the tables and how they had turned after Bruce Wayne goes through everything he does to stay alive and come back. You really see everything come full circle both physically and visually as well as mentally and emotionally as well.
* I certainly did not see the swerve at the end coming and that really tied everything together well. It was very unexpected and just intensified everything that transpired leading up to it, putting a greater emphasis on the whole plot.
* Even though I maintain that Batman doesn't quit, I did like the ending. Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle going off together, Alfred realizing his dream of Bruce moving on and having a real life, and John Blake going on to be the next Batman. It seemed like it could have left everything open for a continuation, even though we know it's the last Christopher Nolan film and the last to feature Christian Bale, the next movie could pick up where this one left off technically, with a new Batman coming to keep Gotham safe.
I think this was the best film of the series, but it wasn't without it's flaws. It cut down on some of the stuff that hurt TDK, primarily an overabundance or reliance on dialogue to convey messages and sub-text that should have been done through acting rather than long drawn out speeches. With that here are the things that hurt the movie for me.
* Bane's Voice. I'm sorry, but when the villain sounds like a mix between Sean Connery and Darth Vader, there's a problem. Direct example, the line where Bane says "The day is mine Batman", sounds just like Connery, and that took a little bit away from the villain at times.
* Apparently Bane was the spokesperson for Occupy Wall St. This movie had very political overtones/undertones (which ever you prefer to use to describe it). However it did show both sides of that argument and both sides of that reality. I didn't care for it at times because I don't care to mix my politics and my movies so much, and I don't think Batman should really be used as a vehicle for one sides agenda or the other.
* Regardless of some peoples sentiments, Anne Hathaway was useless, needless, took away from the film, it could have been the same or better without her, she was NOT good as Catwoman, her fight scenes were incredibly unbelievable, and she clearly couldn't determine how to portray the character in any definitive way, constantly slipping into more of a Michelle Pfeiffer/Batman Returns Catwoman in a movie where that character simply doesn't fit or belong. I don't care if she inspired a little pup tent in your pants because she's hot, she was horrible and arguably the worst thing in this movie. The just wanted to fit more Batman characters in the movie which is why she was there, her inclusion was unnecessary as it existed and took away from the movie, end of story there.
* BATMAN DOESN'T QUIT!!! That's the biggest flaw in this whole movie, Batman doesn't quit!!! All through the comics it's quite clear that until he is no longer able, or is dead, Bruce Wayne will always be Batman, and he will never stop being Batman for any reason.
* How does Bruce Wayne get back to Gotham for one, and two how did he have enough time to make the big Batman symbol out of fire in the building??? Those things just didn't add up.
On the flip side, this movie was amazing minus some of those nit-picking flaws.
* Bane was far better than the Joker, as a villain, as a character, and as a threat to Batman. Bane would make the Joker shit his pants, because he'd know this guy doesn't fuck around! He doesn't have time for games, he's just here to break you, impose his will, and bring about pain and horror. He is a true super villain. He doesn't want to have talks about the psychology of society, he isn't concerned with anarchy and chaos. He has a plan, a plan for destruction and he's going to execute that plan flawlessly and tactfully. He's got the resources to bring the city to it's knees, and he's got the wits, the influence, and the physical tools to stand against anyone. He's not running around with a bunch of rag-tag misfits who want to stir up some shit to make some kind of point. He's pure fucking evil who simply wants to make people suffer. The Joker simply doesn't stand to that, even if the guy who played him died tragically, or if the charater has become very popular.
* In this movie we get to see Bruce Wayne go through so much more, overcome so much more, and ultimately BE so much more than in the previous films. His struggle is greater, his conflict is greater, the stakes are higher, the villain is seemingly unstoppable, and his hopes slimmer. They just get into a lot more depth here than ever before, which is necessary for the hero to prevail.
* This movie was much more emotional and moving than the last two. Through the conflict, through the struggle, this movie simply has more heart than the others mustered up. We see it from all sides, Bruce Wayne, Selena Kyle, Bane, Commissioner Gordon, John Blake, Talia al Ghul, etc....
* The fight scenes between Bane and Batman were very very powerful, and this goes into the previous point about this movie being much more emotional and moving. The lack of music during the first fight really put you there and put an exclamation point on it. You could feel the gravity of what was going on, and knowing what was going to happen and watching it unfold really created a stir inside. What transpired was as much visual and physical as it was mental and emotional, and you could feel that. The second fight scene was no less great, watching the tables and how they had turned after Bruce Wayne goes through everything he does to stay alive and come back. You really see everything come full circle both physically and visually as well as mentally and emotionally as well.
* I certainly did not see the swerve at the end coming and that really tied everything together well. It was very unexpected and just intensified everything that transpired leading up to it, putting a greater emphasis on the whole plot.
* Even though I maintain that Batman doesn't quit, I did like the ending. Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle going off together, Alfred realizing his dream of Bruce moving on and having a real life, and John Blake going on to be the next Batman. It seemed like it could have left everything open for a continuation, even though we know it's the last Christopher Nolan film and the last to feature Christian Bale, the next movie could pick up where this one left off technically, with a new Batman coming to keep Gotham safe.
I just have one question. Was Bane using the League of Shadows as his henchmen?
He based the accent off of a famous Irish Traveller(No point in explaining the travelling community in Ireland) named Bartley Gorman who was an undefeated bare knuckle fighter and his intellect & Caribbean heritage. I liked it but i can see where people can hate it.
"There are more than one way to immortality Mr. Wayne"
* Bane's Voice. I'm sorry, but when the villain sounds like a mix between Sean Connery and Darth Vader, there's a problem. Direct example, the line where Bane says "The day is mine Batman", sounds just like Connery, and that took a little bit away from the villain at times.
He based the accent off of a famous Irish Traveller(No point in explaining the travelling community in Ireland) named Bartley Gorman who was an undefeated bare knuckle fighter and his intellect & Caribbean heritage. I liked it but i can see where people can hate it.
WAS RA'S AL GHUL A HALLUCINATION OR NOT?1
"There are more than one way to immortality Mr. Wayne"
Serious Mozzarella
Special Victims Unit
I went to the
I stopped reading there, because length, Ba-Bomb. Jesus fucking Christ, why do you do that?
* Regardless of some peoples sentiments, Anne Hathaway was useless, needless, took away from the film, it could have been the same or better without her, she was NOT good as Catwoman, her fight scenes were incredibly unbelievable, and she clearly couldn't determine how to portray the character in any definitive way, constantly slipping into more of a Michelle Pfeiffer/Batman Returns Catwoman in a movie where that character simply doesn't fit or belong. I don't care if she inspired a little pup tent in your pants because she's hot, she was horrible and arguably the worst thing in this movie. The just wanted to fit more Batman characters in the movie which is why she was there, her inclusion was unnecessary as it existed and took away from the movie, end of story there.
Just wanted to say Selina Kyle was not useless. She went from fighting for herself and her own survival to someone who went back to save Batman when she had a chance to abandon him and escape. Her change from distrusting the society that rejected her to learning from Batman that doing the right thing is not merely to be accepted is a powerful message. Also, she was the lone bright spark in a long and quite depressing film. After Alfred disappeared from the show, she was the only one that wasn't as involved as the other characters to provide a lighter touch.
Talia to me was the worse thing in the movie and was not needed at all. Bane could just as easily be explained away as the son. It made all the crap Bane said about wanting Batman to suffer felt empty because someone else had a bigger motivation to burn down Gotham, and fulfil the legacy of Ras' Al Ghul.
* Bane's Voice. I'm sorry, but when the villain sounds like a mix between Sean Connery and Darth Vader, there's a problem. Direct example, the line where Bane says "The day is mine Batman", sounds just like Connery, and that took a little bit away from the villain at times.
Doesn't make any sense. Darth Vader is one of the greatest villains of all-time. Iconic, right down to the voice. I fail to see how sounding like him (or Sean Connery for that matter) would be a hindrance to any villain. Especially when the point of Bane's voice is to create a contradiction between appearance and sound, thus messing with the audience's collective mind.
He based the accent off of a famous Irish Traveller(No point in explaining the travelling community in Ireland) named Bartley Gorman who was an undefeated bare knuckle fighter and his intellect & Caribbean heritage. I liked it but i can see where people can hate it.
Interesting factoid I was not aware of. I didn't really hate it, but it seemed just as ridiculous as Bales' Batman voice.
I stopped reading there, because length, Ba-Bomb. Jesus fucking Christ, why do you do that?
LOL, sorry. Detail, depth, and substance. I try to give people something to read rather than a short quip or simple statement. People do still like to be able to actually sit down and read something with all the above stated elements don't they?
Just wanted to say Selina Kyle was not useless. She went from fighting for herself and her own survival to someone who went back to save Batman when she had a chance to abandon him and escape. Her change from distrusting the society that rejected her to learning from Batman that doing the right thing is not merely to be accepted is a powerful message. Also, she was the lone bright spark in a long and quite depressing film. After Alfred disappeared from the show, she was the only one that wasn't as involved as the other characters to provide a lighter touch.
Uhhh, yeah they worked all that in there for her but as I personally saw it, that was all unnecessary and my issues are more along the lines of Anne Hathaway's portrayal. I appreciate that you found her inclusion to be light and refreshing but giving my own review of the movie, I felt Hathaway did the character no justice, or the movie for that matter. You could have pulled her entire role from the movie and it wouldn't have made a difference besides taking out an unneeded additive so you could focus more on the main plot.
Talia to me was the worse thing in the movie and was not needed at all. Bane could just as easily be explained away as the son. It made all the crap Bane said about wanting Batman to suffer felt empty because someone else had a bigger motivation to burn down Gotham, and fulfil the legacy of Ras' Al Ghul.
I do agree that Talia was also a shitty additive. The whole subplot about Wayne losing his money and thus needing her in turn, which was also linked to the Selena Kyle subplot about the computer device to wipe her slate clean, all could have been struck from the plot and the movie would have lost nothing. I will admit though that was one hell of a plot twist with her at the end and I did feel THAT added to the movie overall. I agree it would have worked fine with it just being Bane that was the son of Ras al Ghul but that was one hell of a mind fucker that I don't think too many people really saw coming.
Doesn't make any sense. Darth Vader is one of the greatest villains of all-time. Iconic, right down to the voice. I fail to see how sounding like him (or Sean Connery for that matter) would be a hindrance to any villain. Especially when the point of Bane's voice is to create a contradiction between appearance and sound, thus messing with the audience's collective mind.
Was the point of Bane's voice to create a contradiction between appearance and sound? That may be questionable. It was just ridiculous that's all, just the same as how Bales' Batman voice is ridiculous. It took away from the characters menace a little bit if you ask me, and made it difficult to take him seriously in dialogue because it was such a distraction. Sure, Darth Vaders' voice is iconic, as is Sean Connerys' voice, individually. Putting the two sounds together doesn't necessarily make one great sound though. I like rap and rock too but I'm also still face-palming over Limp Bizkit, just sayin'.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Was the point of Bane's voice to create a contradiction between appearance and sound? That may be questionable. It was just ridiculous that's all, just the same as how Bales' Batman voice is ridiculous. It took away from the characters menace a little bit if you ask me, and made it difficult to take him seriously in dialogue because it was such a distraction. Sure, Darth Vaders' voice is iconic, as is Sean Connerys' voice, individually. Putting the two sounds together doesn't necessarily make one great sound though. I like rap and rock too but I'm also still face-palming over Limp Bizkit, just sayin'.
That voice was the most menacing thing about Bane, outside of him being pure evil. The voice was different from most human beings, and that's the point. That's the point of Bane - a human being who has nothing in common with other human beings. Being human doesn't come natural to the guy, so why should his voice be any different?
The voice worked, and worked very well.
Ah..so you are more against the actress than the role. Before watching the show, I was also dubious in casting Anne Hathaway as Catwoman but her first playful 'oops' to Bruce Wayne sold her casting to me. By your logic we can pull everybody outside of Batman, Bane, and perhaps Gordon from the movie and the main plot would still be the same.Uhhh, yeah they worked all that in there for her but as I personally saw it, that was all unnecessary and my issues are more along the lines of Anne Hathaway's portrayal. I appreciate that you found her inclusion to be light and refreshing but giving my own review of the movie, I felt Hathaway did the character no justice, or the movie for that matter. You could have pulled her entire role from the movie and it wouldn't have made a difference besides taking out an unneeded additive so you could focus more on the main plot.
It was a mind fuck beyond a mind fuck and made little sense since nobody knew about a nuclear device within the city besides Bruce and Fox. The revelation also reduced Bane from the awesome and fierce fighter with the intellect to match into a lovesick puppy.I do agree that Talia was also a shitty additive. The whole subplot about Wayne losing his money and thus needing her in turn, which was also linked to the Selena Kyle subplot about the computer device to wipe her slate clean, all could have been struck from the plot and the movie would have lost nothing. I will admit though that was one hell of a plot twist with her at the end and I did feel THAT added to the movie overall. I agree it would have worked fine with it just being Bane that was the son of Ras al Ghul but that was one hell of a mind fucker that I don't think too many people really saw coming
Because Coco seemed to give half a shit as to why I disliked it, and I do like hits: http://squarescircle.com/2012/07/25/batman-working-class-hero/
In retrospect, I think I was too kind about Michael Caine, but I've always liked him more than I should.
In retrospect, I think I was too kind about Michael Caine, but I've always liked him more than I should.
Because Coco seemed to give half a shit as to why I disliked it, and I do like hits: http://squarescircle.com/2012/07/25/batman-working-class-hero/
In retrospect, I think I was too kind about Michael Caine, but I've always liked him more than I should.
I didn't know you had a blog. Or maybe I did and conveniently forgot. Either way, I gave your review a read.
I think you may have been a little too harsh on the film, but overall I agree that it left something to be desired, but I found it enjoyable enough. Definitely the weakest of the three, though.
I can finally post in this thread...
1) I liked Bane's voice. The only problem was that it was clear as day which scenes had to be re-dubbed due to either the noisiness of the IMAX cameras or the muffling of Tom Hardy's voice because of the mask.
2) Selina Kyle was redundant in that film. I liked how they handled her story, and enjoyed the many shots of Anne Hathaway's derriere on a motorcycle, but overall the character was little more to the overall plot than someone for Bruce to run away into the sunset with. Which brings me on to...
3) The ending. Despite the trillions of dollars worth of damage that will no doubt cripple Gotham financially for decades to come, Alfred got his fantasy fulfilled, Bruce returned to being a happy recluse, Gordon knows that Bruce is still alive, and it hints that Gotham will have a new masked protector in Robin. Overall, the main characters get a happily ever after.
4) Bane's death is on par with Boba Fett's; where was the send-off? Everything invested in Bane was wasted by a fleeting deus ex machina moment (of which there were far too many). Something more to do with the mask, or a symbolic sending back into hell would have been more appropriate, especially since Blake was getting more screen time than necessary towards the end of the movie (we get it, you care about the kids!).
5) That said, the fight scenes were incredible, and Batman echoing Bane's earlier words made my arm hairs stand on end. Batman is best when he's angry.
6) I laughed louder than I should have done at the Killer Croc reference.
7) Marion Cotillard's boobies. Also, while the twist with her being Talia was very good, how she portrayed the child of Ra's al Ghul was almost identical to how she played Mol in Inception, and that irked me a little bit.
8) Cannot fault how it looked or sounded. IMAX truly is amazing.
9) It was good seeing Dr. Crane turn up again, but it made me wonder why they couldn't at least refer to the Joker just once, even if it was in passing.
10) Owen from Torchwood and Teal'c from Stargate SG-1!
11) Marked out for Liam Neeson. (Can you mark out at things other than wrestling? Oh well, it was the same feeling.)
It's probably sounding more critical than how I actually feel. I thoroughly enjoyed it; certainly the most tense and emotional Nolan Batman film of the three, though it was admittedly less straight-forward than the previous two.
1) I liked Bane's voice. The only problem was that it was clear as day which scenes had to be re-dubbed due to either the noisiness of the IMAX cameras or the muffling of Tom Hardy's voice because of the mask.
2) Selina Kyle was redundant in that film. I liked how they handled her story, and enjoyed the many shots of Anne Hathaway's derriere on a motorcycle, but overall the character was little more to the overall plot than someone for Bruce to run away into the sunset with. Which brings me on to...
3) The ending. Despite the trillions of dollars worth of damage that will no doubt cripple Gotham financially for decades to come, Alfred got his fantasy fulfilled, Bruce returned to being a happy recluse, Gordon knows that Bruce is still alive, and it hints that Gotham will have a new masked protector in Robin. Overall, the main characters get a happily ever after.
4) Bane's death is on par with Boba Fett's; where was the send-off? Everything invested in Bane was wasted by a fleeting deus ex machina moment (of which there were far too many). Something more to do with the mask, or a symbolic sending back into hell would have been more appropriate, especially since Blake was getting more screen time than necessary towards the end of the movie (we get it, you care about the kids!).
5) That said, the fight scenes were incredible, and Batman echoing Bane's earlier words made my arm hairs stand on end. Batman is best when he's angry.
6) I laughed louder than I should have done at the Killer Croc reference.
7) Marion Cotillard's boobies. Also, while the twist with her being Talia was very good, how she portrayed the child of Ra's al Ghul was almost identical to how she played Mol in Inception, and that irked me a little bit.
8) Cannot fault how it looked or sounded. IMAX truly is amazing.
9) It was good seeing Dr. Crane turn up again, but it made me wonder why they couldn't at least refer to the Joker just once, even if it was in passing.
10) Owen from Torchwood and Teal'c from Stargate SG-1!
11) Marked out for Liam Neeson. (Can you mark out at things other than wrestling? Oh well, it was the same feeling.)
It's probably sounding more critical than how I actually feel. I thoroughly enjoyed it; certainly the most tense and emotional Nolan Batman film of the three, though it was admittedly less straight-forward than the previous two.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Oh, a few more thoughts....
-What qualifies John Blake to be Batman? Bruce had to go through a lot to become the Batman - training, mainly. What training does Blake have? He didn't seem like a tough guy, nor did he give me any reason to believe he's all that smart. I just didn't see it in him.
-Bane should have been the only villain. I enjoyed Catwoman and didn't mind Talia, but they were totally unnecessary. Bane is a solid enough character to carry this film, the others weren't needed. A Liam Neeson and Scarecrow cameo were plenty to go along with Hardy.
-What qualifies John Blake to be Batman? Bruce had to go through a lot to become the Batman - training, mainly. What training does Blake have? He didn't seem like a tough guy, nor did he give me any reason to believe he's all that smart. I just didn't see it in him.
-Bane should have been the only villain. I enjoyed Catwoman and didn't mind Talia, but they were totally unnecessary. Bane is a solid enough character to carry this film, the others weren't needed. A Liam Neeson and Scarecrow cameo were plenty to go along with Hardy.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
This thread is just getting ridiculous. It's a fucking Batman movie people, are you all really going to sit here and analyze every little fucking detail of the movie?
This thread is just getting ridiculous. It's a fucking Batman movie people, are you all really going to sit here and analyze every little fucking detail of the movie?
Summer holidays, nothing else to do.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Oh, a few more thoughts....
-What qualifies John Blake to be Batman? Bruce had to go through a lot to become the Batman - training, mainly. What training does Blake have? He didn't seem like a tough guy, nor did he give me any reason to believe he's all that smart. I just didn't see it in him.
He does have years of police training, & he grew up on the mean streets of Gotham, plus they never said he becomes Batman. The entire world saw (or at least thinks they saw) Batman get nuked, so perhaps Blake uses all the tools, gadgets & resources Bruce left behind to create a new hero for Gotham, Nightwing, Red Robin, etc. Also he was smart enough to figure Bruce Wayne was Batman when the rest of Gotham couldn't, & there was all that other shit with Banes plan he figured out, which prompted his promotion to detective.
-Bane should have been the only villain. I enjoyed Catwoman and didn't mind Talia, but they were totally unnecessary. Bane is a solid enough character to carry this film, the others weren't needed. A Liam Neeson and Scarecrow cameo were plenty to go along with Hardy.
Lets be fair, Catwoman is not really a full fledged villain, she's more of an anti-heroine.
I didn't know you had a blog. Or maybe I did and conveniently forgot.
There are two other writers, so let's pretend the more embarrassing stuff on there isn't mine.
Well I'm not logging in every day to read another scintillating justification of KB's political views.Because Coco seemed to give half a shit as to why I disliked it
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
Finally saw it today and it was actually better than I thought it would be. Foolishly I feared the trilogy curse may strike.
What I really liked was how fitting a finalé it was to Nolan's Batman trilogy as it featured his theme of being unable to escape and having to confront your past.
The 'death' of batman was something I was prepared for, but as had been said at least once in each of the films, batman is a symbol. Even though he is perceived as dead, the raising of a monument to him maintains him as a symbol but also allowed Bruce Wayne to live on.
Michael Caine's performance is comparable with Anthony Hopkins' in Silence of the Lambs; he had very little screen time in total but was a big factor in the direction of the main character.
Bane's voice/accent was a little queer sounding at the very start but the way it altered every now and then was quite cool. His fisticuffs with Batman were dam good too. Batman not figuring out the mask was somewhat important to Bane to begin with was a bit... dumb?
Hathaway was brilliant.
What I really liked was how fitting a finalé it was to Nolan's Batman trilogy as it featured his theme of being unable to escape and having to confront your past.
The 'death' of batman was something I was prepared for, but as had been said at least once in each of the films, batman is a symbol. Even though he is perceived as dead, the raising of a monument to him maintains him as a symbol but also allowed Bruce Wayne to live on.
Michael Caine's performance is comparable with Anthony Hopkins' in Silence of the Lambs; he had very little screen time in total but was a big factor in the direction of the main character.
Bane's voice/accent was a little queer sounding at the very start but the way it altered every now and then was quite cool. His fisticuffs with Batman were dam good too. Batman not figuring out the mask was somewhat important to Bane to begin with was a bit... dumb?
Hathaway was brilliant.
Brilliant Human Being
Hello
Didn't really listen to the first scene, was concentrating on figuring out whether the American bloke was Littlefinger from Game of Thrones. Turns out it was. Quite apart from that though, it was definitely the weakest of the trilogy. Not that that means it's a bad film, the first two just set a very high standard.
Was very impressed by how good Tom Hardy's performance was. Considering basically he was acting with his arms and eyes, it was amazing how good he was. Bit disappointed that all effort into his character seemed to evaporate once the revelation about Miss Tate happened.
All in all though, very good. Not up to the standard of the first two, but still very good.
Was very impressed by how good Tom Hardy's performance was. Considering basically he was acting with his arms and eyes, it was amazing how good he was. Bit disappointed that all effort into his character seemed to evaporate once the revelation about Miss Tate happened.
All in all though, very good. Not up to the standard of the first two, but still very good.
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
I forgot to ask earlier, did anyone actually see The Pope (Dinero that is) in the film?
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