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The Bash; Triple H v Randy Orton WWE title, three stages of hell

One would think Trips takes the traditional match, while Orton takes the Falls Count Anywhere, obviously going the distance to the stretcher match where it's a toss up. One on hand you have a title belt collector and the other hand points to the suggestive ending in favor of the Legend Killer.

This should be entertaining, with the last two having more emphasis on them.
 
see heres the only thing I'm confused about, why exactly is the last match a stretcher match? I mean I know these two have done alot of different specialty matches but the stretcher match seems a bit random. I think they should have had the same combo that HHH/HBK had when they went 2/3 (street/cage/ladder). Either way I still see Orton pulling out of this with some interference but not from a usual suspect
 
u all heard hhh after raw.this isent over orton.not by a long shot.so i doubt this will be the end of the fued.should be alright consider how many times we,ve seen the hhh orton combination.i expect a decent bout with some kind of twist/outside interference. i still suspect a hell in the cell match the put an end to this fued once and for all,ether at night of champions.or summerslam.
 
This, I feel, should have happened a long time ago. I'm actually quite intrigued by the concept of the match, and making it a Three Stages of Hell Match is actually twist on this feud that is becoming extremely stale. I really like that the WWE is offering up this match upon pay per view, and it actually makes a good lick of sense. What doesn't make sense, however, is to only have a week or so to build up the matter. However, these two have been at one another's throats for the past few months, so I suppose I can forgive the short-sighted booking that occurs from having a pay per view merely three weeks ago.

For some strange reason, I have a funny feeling Randy is going to win. And I also get that feeling that Vince will turn on his son in law. I mean, we've already seen a heelish Vince tonight, and it has been more entertaining than any Vince we've seen... Well, for a while, actually. Tonight managed to prove that Vince is best at being a heel, and that he should stay as a heel if he decides to make himself an on screen character again.

If Vince is choosing not to make himself an on screen character, then I would suggest that Triple h goes over here. But at this point, I'm not entirely sure where creative is taking this. But, for the first time in a while with this feud, I'm actually pretty interested.
 
Ok, I'm just pissed off now. After Wrestlemania 25, I was happy because i thought their feud was over. Then Trips returned and im annoyed. They announce a 3 stages of hell match and I'm really happy. The I found out that the 3 stages suck!

A traditional match: BORING!!!

A Falls count anywhere: A Last Man Standing match with less action- BORING!!!

Strecher Match: Woo?
 
Ok, I'm just pissed off now. After Wrestlemania 25, I was happy because i thought their feud was over. Then Trips returned and im annoyed. They announce a 3 stages of hell match and I'm really happy. The I found out that the 3 stages suck!

A traditional match: BORING!!!

A Falls count anywhere: A Last Man Standing match with less action- BORING!!!

Strecher Match: Woo?

Actually I'd say a Falls Count Anywhere match is a Last Man Standing match with MORE action. They won't sit around waiting for a whole bunch of near 10 counts in that match up. It should move faster than a LMS match because of that. And also because they will probably be doing two other falls so each fall will probably be shorter than they originally would anyways.

I too have been tired of this feud, but the 3 stages of hell breathes in some fresh air into it. Hopefully this will be it for the feud, and then both Orton and HHH can move on to someone else. I almost want to say McMachon will cement himself as a heel once again by siding with Orton during this match. Perhaps that whole McMachon backing Legacy swerve we were all looking forward to months ago will finally actually happen.
 
Thank God we finally get back the 3 Stages of Hell match. I said it yesterday, and it's like the WWE is reading my post, or I'm working for the WWE, you decide which one is truth.

As far as the Orton Triple H feud, it has to end here one would assume. Again, It does Orton no good to lose this feud to Triple H at this point. Triple H has been in two of these match types, and both of those matches were pretty damn good, especially the first against Steve Austin.

I'm a bit confused on the final match, but the Stretcher match has been kinda built as the new Last man standing match for the latter part of the decade. The emphasis is on disabiling your opponent until you can get him on a stretcher and out of the arena.

Hopefully it's not overly filled with interference, but it probably will be. I'm more excited about the match type returning as opposed to the two guys that are in it.
 
Hopefully it's not overly filled with interference, but it probably will be. I'm more excited about the match type returning as opposed to the two guys that are in it.

I agree, it's nice to see this match back. As you say it's a great feud ender and hopefully it will totally end this HHH/Orton thing once and for all. In fairness to them though, I thought their last man standing match was entertaining enough and so I'm not dreading their match at the Bash. I think WWE had to give us something like 3 stages of hell though becasue another straight singles match between these two would have been total overkill...
 
I think WWE had to give us something like 3 stages of hell though becasue another straight singles match between these two would have been total overkill...

Ok, you think a singles match would have been overkill, yet you think 3 matches in one night is not overkill, that is definitely faulty logic especially since one of them IS a straight singles match.......

I have already stated that these two should not be feuding anymore and now i would like to add that a three stages of hell match at a tri- branded ppv is a very bad idea because it simply occupies too much of the card, midcarders and up and coming stars don't get ppv time as it is and adding a three stages of hell makes things even worse in that regard. Also i don't think using three stages of hell in an already overused feud is a good idea because we have to watch THREE MORE MATCHES with the same two guys fighting for the belt. They should have restarted this feud going into summerslam and simply and the final blowoff match in a Hell in a Cell like we all know they are going to do anyways.
 
I am picking Orton to win the last 2 and retain the belt.

I was hoping they would end this damned feud with a Hell in A Cell match and not have them fight each other ever again. lol
 
Ok, you think a singles match would have been overkill, yet you think 3 matches in one night is not overkill, that is definitely faulty logic especially since one of them IS a straight singles match.......

What I meant was WWE needed to give us something other than just a singles match at the Bash in order to make Orton/HHH appealing, if at all possible. We have seen countless singles bouts between these two and yes while one of the matches this Sunday is a singles, we are going to see a falls count anywhere match and I assume a stretcher match as well. So i'll say again, if we were to be treated to JUST a singles match between these two this Sunday, I think that would be a bore because we have seen that many times but because there are other match stipulations there is now more appeal...at least to me anyway. I know what you're saying in that 3 matches in a row, especially between these two could be too much but in the very least we are getting a bit of variety as opposed to just one singles match. As you say though, a Hell in the Cell at Summerslam may have been the perfect way to end it rather than going through all this. I hope I've been clearer here...
 
What I meant was WWE needed to give us something other than just a singles match at the Bash in order to make Orton/HHH appealing, if at all possible. We have seen countless singles bouts between these two and yes while one of the matches this Sunday is a singles, we are going to see a falls count anywhere match and I assume a stretcher match as well. So i'll say again, if we were to be treated to JUST a singles match between these two this Sunday, I think that would be a bore because we have seen that many times but because there are other match stipulations there is now more appeal...at least to me anyway. I know what you're saying in that 3 matches in a row, especially between these two could be too much but in the very least we are getting a bit of variety as opposed to just one singles match. As you say though, a Hell in the Cell at Summerslam may have been the perfect way to end it rather than going through all this. I hope I've been clearer here...

Great way to put it. I am only buying The Bash for the ECW Scramble and the Stretcher match. If the match would have been singles, I would not be buying the PPV this Sunday.
 
The interesting thing that comes out of this is the direction this goes after this, assumingly feud ender, is over. NoC is next, and you only see title matches. Barring a terrible Triple Threat idea, which wouldn't fit anyways, you'll see either Orton, Cena, or HHH off of this card. The best direction, IMO, would be an Orton vs Cena feud done properly for your Summerslam main event. But at the same token HHH isn't going to skip 2 of 3 PPVs, and nor should he. He should have no involvement with Orton after this, and we seen HHH vs Cena at NoC last year.

Be interesting to see the direction this takes.
 
I was very angry when i saw hhh vs orton again at the bash. this will be the 11th time that hhh vs orton has main evented a ppv. I am sick lof watching the same thing happen again and again. HHH is in the main event becasue he is Stephanie "McMahon" wife. MVP or Matt hardy would have been great to verse a guy like cena at the bash. Matt hardy deserves a title AND so does MVP. Hardys push at Wrestlemania was pointless because now he is losing matches to guys like Regal and Kingston. Pointless!!!!!!! HHH and orton needs to stop!!!!!!!
 
My Final Thoughts



Why HHH Should Win?

Ever since the Royal Rumble, Randy Orton has been terrorizing the McMahon family and those HHH loves. He has punted Vince McMahon, Shane McMahon, Batista, and HHH himself being put out of action for several months. This is an act of revenge for HHH and him winning the title from Orton, brutalizing him in the process makes it all the more sweeter.


Why Randy Orton Should Win?

Ever since Orton was kicked out of Evolution in the summer of 2004, he has not pinned HHH in an one-on-one matchup. He does hold victories over HHH in a Survivor Series matchup and a Last Man Standing match. It's still safe to say that HHH owns him with three victories since Wrestlemania 24. Orton just won the title June 15 in a Fatal Four-Way and it seems illogical that he would lose the title so quickly. Orton needs to prove that he can beat Triple H one-on-one to prove that he is a worthy champion and that he can get rid of those Evolution demons.

Who Should Win?

There's no reason for HHH to win right now. If he was the champion heading into the Bash, I would differ my opinion but as it stands right now Orton should come out victorious. He should do this without Rhodes and DiBiase but I believe they will interfere during the Stretcher Match. This should lead to a feud against Cena through Night of Champions and Summerslam.

Who Will Win?
The first match which is a regular wrestling match will go to Randy Orton with a RKO. The second match which is Fall Count Anywhere will go to HHH after a pedigree. The third match which is a Stretcher Match will go back-and-forth and HHH will put Randy on the stretcher. Just when he is about to win, Rhodes and DiBiase will come out and interfere and help Randy put HHH on the stretcher and cross the line giving Orton the victory.​
 
I absolutely hate this feud so much. And the fact that annoys me so much is the fact that it is most likely going to go until Summerslam. I mean, the Main Event was supposed to be saved for Cena Vs Orton. But it seems kinda illogical to me how they would end it here.

1. The Bash is not a Big-Pay-Per-View (ala Summerslam, Mania, Survivor Series, Rumble). I really don't a Wrestlemania Level Feud ending here.

2. If you really think about AFTER The Bash, how would they manage NOC. I can't even picture Triple H missing a Pay-Per-View, or challenging Kofi Kingston for the US Title (could you imagine that). So for Triple H to lose this match, it wouldn't make much sense for afterwards. Unless he pulled a Cena and threatened to leave Raw (thank God if that happens). And if Triple H wins here, their going to face off at Summerslam, because im pretty sure if they got them that far, they wouldn't stop there at NOC.


So what i'm looking at for NOC will be Triple H vs Cena vs Randy Orton with Triple H as champion. Have we seen it before? Think Wrestlemania 24, and that match wasn't terrible so this can't be really bad. Plus, feuds never end in Triple Threats so this is definily going to Summerslam. Only reason I believe that this is a Triple Threat is the fact that they can't leave Cena with nothing to do at Pay-Per-View. Miz will most likely be competing for the US Title in a fatal four way with MVP, Big Slow, and Kofi. And they'll use that for the base for the Miz Vs Cena at Summerslam (rather that then Cena Vs Slow). Really I can't find any logical way of Triple H losing.

Now many people are talking about a swerve, or a Mcmahon Betrayal. I'm going to say the same thing I said about Wrestlemania. Vince doesn't need to do it. He needs to pass on his management duties on to someone else. When Donald Trump was owner, I thought the whole idea was to introduce someone else, not Trump, but i thought he was going to sell it to someone were all familiar with......Stephanie McMahon. Now that they've oviously put Vince's idea of stepping down as the Main Owner of Raw. They can use this match as start to side with Orton. If they let Vince side with Triple H giving him another title match, and Stephanie side with Orton. This could livin up the feud again, and thus bring the McMahon element that made this feud interesting.

If there no betrayals at all. Then this match is all Triple H.
 
This will probably close the show. I am glad they brought back the three stages of hell match.... but couldn't they have picked better "stages" instead of what they did? Come on. Still.... should be good. HHH or Orton could win the first stage. The one who loses the first stage will win the second stage. Orton will win the third stage and retain the wwe title to close the ppv. Think about it. HHH winning would probably end the feud (unless he finally puts Orton over, unlikely, yet).... and I agree with what just about everyone else has said on here. It will end at with a hell in a cell (oh wait, wwe is PG now.... Rage in a Cage?) match at Summerslam. For this match right here though, Orton's gonna win.

DAGGER DIAS prediction: Orton
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So. they figured out a way to get FOUR more matches out of this fucking thing. You know whats funny?

I dare not speak this diabolical sentance....

this might not be it. this may not be the end. could they not BOTH fall onto the stretcher as it rolls across the line? Oh, but they could. Could they ever.

No idea how to call this one. Orton JUST got the belt back. but. Triple H JUST came back. I do know, they set this up really fucking dumb. So wait, the first match is just a regular match? the fuck is the point of that? how is that "three stages of HELL" ? Werent the other two three gimmick matches in one, or am I dumb?

If they had real smartyness, they wouldve made one of the matches a first blood. just sayin. Also, falls count anywere? well lets hope they dont have the fall out in the parking lot, and then one man has to carry the other all the way out to the stretcher.

I dont know. plain ol dont know bout this one guys.
 
My prediction for the match tonight is that Randy Orton is going to successfully defend his championship against Triple H. Randy is another guy who since Wrestlemania is on a different tier than most of the lockeroom and has proved to be an elite athlete within the business and I think he has the tool's needed to walk out of The Bash as a World Champion. He is going to have to avoid power moves from Triple H and he is going to have to keep it in the ring as well, if Triple H gets him outside then he takes Randy out of his element and the match shifts to "The Games" favor, this is important. Triple H could definatly win tonight, but he is going to have to keep a keen eye out for Legacy members and work the match in a pace that favors him instead of allowing Randy to be all over the place, if HHH can do this than he has a good shot, but I think Randy has what it takes to defend his World Championship tonight and maybe set something up with Triple H at SummerSlam 09.
 
I say at first Randy Orton is going to win this match, but then again, something tells me that the WWE is going to try and push the hell out of Cena vs. Triple H 3 for Night of Champions next month.

As I said going in and around Wrestlemania time, it serves no purpose for Triple H to win this feud, especially if Randy Orton is going to be THE guy for the WWE. The man has to win a feud with Triple H at some point (particularly a one on one match for a change), and I don't see why these two can't do something special in this match. However, as Sly said in another thread, I dno't think I can ever remember watching two guys that have such piss poor chemistry with each other in the ring.

I'm more excited at the possibility of 3 Stages of Hell making a comeback then I am the match in particular.
 
This feud is set up for a HHH win to end the reign of terror from Orton, only problem is Orton's had the belt back for five minutes. I agree with an earlier post, they'll find a way to make this a draw or to prolong it to end at Summerslam.

This has to go all three falls, shame the last one is a stretcher, I have never been a fan of these matches. It is set up for Legacy to interfere with only Vince to help HHH (but he's turning heel, so he can't help HHH). So the use of Legacy will give HHH an out for losing and looking credible. and prolonging the feud. Job done. This will main event , just hope the use of weapons will let them have a better match than WM (Orton said in an interview with the Sun the lack of weapons hurt the Mania Main Event).
 
I really was suprised at this match tonight. It was actually an excellent contest between two excellent wrestlers.

HHH got himself DQ in the first match by hitting Orton with a chair. Then, Orton pulled off the win in the FCA match. Then, in the strecher match, Legacy came out at the end and made sure that Orton pulled out the victory.

Now, let's never have these two former partners go at it ever again.
 
The match itself was cool, but the interference by Legacy caused me to groan in displeasure, why couldn't Orton just prove he was the better and win the title bout? Well, Orton wins regardless and looks like he is on course for a nice long title reign (hopefully). This match had a good feel to it but the first two falls happened way too quickly, but they paced it better for the finish. Triple H will get the title back eventually, but Randy deserves his run and I wish him luck as a World's Champion.
 
Well well well, looks like its STILL not over. The most interesting part of this match was that beforehand they teased the break-up of Legacy and showed some friction between Orton and DiBiase. Once again, Orton cannot go over in a legitimate way. First fall triple h gets himself DQ'd. Second fall, orton loses. Third fall, 2 guys needs to interfere to help Orton and afterwards Orton still gets his ass beat and cannot stand tall. This is going to be ended at Summerslam, and since there is still ANOTHER ppv between now and summerslam we may have to sit through this yet again before the conclusion. In the Hell in a Cell that these 2 will end up having Orton better win, if Orton isn't put over in that match i will be appalled and disgusted.
 

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