The Abortion Thread

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

People like to say that this is a difficult topic but it's not at all its real simple actually let a women have a right to her own body.

Just like gay marriage I have yet to come up or hear anyone with one legit reason why abortion is wrong or people make such a big deal out of it. If you are against abortion then you are against women. Who are these priest and politicians think they are to say women shouldn't get an abortion; women shouldn't get birth control? They’re not the ones who are going to be pregnant for 9 months and have a kid to take care of. People like Rick Santorum make me sick to my stomach when he speaks listening to his anti-women garbage. How can you think even if a woman gets raped she should still have the baby. Rick Santorum says its God gift you know typical nonsense you hear from anti-abortion people. Bad enough the women was raped so now for nine months she has to deal with all the problems that occur when you’re pregnant and then have the kid. I'm sure she will like it if the baby has his father's eyes. That's the other thing too so now the girl was got raped has to care for a child now by herself.
In any condition no matter what if a women wants to get an abortion then she should. That is taking our freedom away by saying a women can't get an abortion. What about the man that's his seed that she is carrying don't you think he should have some say too? What I don't get is that religious people say everything happens for a reason and there are many good reasons why someone who doesn't want to have a kid shouldn't have a baby. It's not murder because a fetus can't live at all outside the mother's womb. Don't say that she can just put it up for adoption if she doesn't want the baby. So that means she has to take 9 months out of her life for a bay she doesn't want just to make another foster home even more crowded. The world is already over populated we don't need any more accidental kids on our planet. It seems like today so many girls are now getting pregnant before the age of 18 those girls should not be able to have a kid they a have a live they did to live even if they are just ****eing themselves around. When I graduated high school 5 years ago and when I was in school more than 10 girls had a kid before they even graduated. Even in Africa they should start building abortion clinics everywhere there. That would prevent so many children from dying of hunger. Pro-life people are against freedom and they are against women. There’s no other way to put it.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

 

[Big Sexy]

So you are against the killing of animals but are pro abortion? I don't really give shit either way on the subject, I'm just making sure I've got your opinions down.

 

[Lee]

Now don't use the rape argument as that is very very very slim in the western world, less than 1% of abortions are due to being raped yet 90% of argument for abortion mention this.

The baby is formed pretty quickly after conception to me abortion is murder, Simple really. If you think that being against murder is me being against women and freedom let it be.

Random fact here but in the UK it's legal for the woman to have an abortion without the fathers consultation. Could you imagine being excited about being a dad and then "oh yeah i aborted it".

Abortion should be legal but the causes should be worked on, it was at a lower rate under Clinton (pro abortion but good on welfare) than Bush (anti abortion terrible on welfare).

Also, like homosexuality, I've argued this to death. Religious wise there's no mention of this in the Bible and the closest to it is the eye for an eye passage. The debate comes down to when you believe a person is a person but I'd like to see you tell a woman who's miscarried before 3 months that what she was carrying was anything BUT a person.

 

[Lee]

Though you did get the thread title right.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

So they have a type of thread that will abort a baby? My wife took a sewing class and this was not mentioned. Science, what will they think of next?

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Big Sexy
Abortion and killing a animal are two completely different things

Lee
First off I never said what you wrote as your signature you just make yourself look dumb with that quote but that’s Ok

Like I said before a fetus can't live outside the womb so right there doesn't make it a murder

I'm not a selfish person so if I got a girl pregnant and wanted the kid yet she decided to get an abortion I would respect her decision because obviously she’s not ready.

You seemed to not make much sense with the last thing you said but in most cases when a woman has a miss carry she wants the baby a abortion is for someone who isn't ready or just doesn't want a kid. So don't even bring up miscarriage because those are two completely different things too.

 

[Coco]

I'm not a selfish person so if I got a girl pregnant and wanted the kid yet she decided to get an abortion I would respect her decision because obviously she’s not ready.

So it's okay for women to be selfish but not men?

Fucking feminism has brain washed you.

 

[CH David]

Big Sexy
Abortion and killing a animal are two completely different things

You're right. Abortion is killing what would be a human. Killing an animal can provide for a family.

 

[Coco]

Killing an animal can provide for a family.

If we lived in a more open-minded society, so could killing a human.

 

[Shocky]

Well hell, looks like Todd has the answers to all of the big questions. So we know pot is good and beer is bad. we know that killing babies is cool, but killing Bambi is bad.

 

[Lee]

You seemed to not make much sense with the last thing you said but in most cases when a woman has a miss carry she wants the baby a abortion is for someone who isn't ready or just doesn't want a kid. So don't even bring up miscarriage because those are two completely different things too.

I'll spell it out:

My argument: The fetus is alive as it's developed pretty quickly after conception.

Your argument: It's not as the baby can't live outside the womb.

FACT: In the UK you can have an abortion up to week 24.

FACT the earliest a baby has been born and survived is week 20, that's a MONTH after you're still legally allowed an abortion.

My point is simple: If you don't believe that the fetus is alive tell that to someone who's miscarried, they'll gladly tell you otherwise.

EDIT: Shocky, I need to spread rep.

 

[.]

Well hell, looks like Todd has the answers to all of the big questions. So we know pot is good and beer is bad. we know that killing babies is cool, but killing Bambi is bad.

Wow I'm contemplating sigging that.

 

[CH David]

Well hell, looks like Todd has the answers to all of the big questions. So we know pot is good and beer is bad. we know that killing babies is cool, but killing Bambi is bad.

I have no words.

 

[Lee]

I have no words.

But it takes away our FREEDOM man.

Wow I'm contemplating sigging that.

I may sig the one where he says he's never voted, though my made up quote works well.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Big Sexy
Abortion and killing a animal are two completely different things

Lee
First off I never said what you wrote as your signature you just make yourself look dumb with that quote but that’s Ok

Like I said before a fetus can't live outside the womb so right there doesn't make it a murder

I'm not a selfish person so if I got a girl pregnant and wanted the kid yet she decided to get an abortion I would respect her decision because obviously she’s not ready.

You seemed to not make much sense with the last thing you said but in most cases when a woman has a miss carry she wants the baby a abortion is for someone who isn't ready or just doesn't want a kid. So don't even bring up miscarriage because those are two completely different things too.

This entire post is wrong in pretty much every way.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Shocky to answer your idiotic statement

When you actually look into things, or just have an understanding of common sense you will find many answers
Pot has never killed anyone ever also it helps millions of people across the world and how many people each year are killed due to alcohol and you tell me which one is better
I never mentioned anything about killing babies I said if a women chooses for whatever reason to get abortion then she should have every right to have one

Lee once again a miscarriage and abortion are two completely different things like I said before with most miscarriages the mother wants to have the baby unlike a abortion
and whats the big deal if I never voted before and fake quote is 100%wrong

and can someone explain for me why I'm wrong

 

[CH David]

Lee once again a miscarriage and abortion are two completely different things like I said before with most miscarriages the mother wants to have the baby unlike a abortion
and whats the big deal if I never voted before and fake quote is 100%wrong

and can someone explain for me why I'm wrong

Lee brought up miscarriages because of how women feel losing their baby. You tell that mother that the baby isn't alive, you're a moron.

You missed that because you want to fight for pro-abortion.

 

[gd]

I agree with Todd the number of people who have died because of weed is literally zero

 

[Lee]

Lee brought up miscarriages because of how women feel losing their baby. You tell that mother that the baby isn't alive, you're a moron.

You missed that because you want to fight for pro-abortion.

^^

That's my point.

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

This looks promising.

 

[Remix]

I agree with Todd the number of people who have died because of weed is literally zero

New research indicates that smoking weed before driving doubles your risk of dying in a car crash, so not quite. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16961112

And yeah, I'm pro-choice. There are changes that need to be made to abortion law (like it not being legal to terminate after it's possible to keep the foetus alive outside the mother but that's something that takes time to legally change and changes frequently so I'm not that fussed about the 24 week limit), but ultimately women should have the right to choose whether or not to bring a foetus to term. Whether or not the father should have any input to the matter is a grey area to me, because I suspect that in a significant number of cases the father shouldn't have any input (e.g. rape (yes, I know that in the vast majority of cases there's no forcibly taken carnal knowledge involved), the relationship with the father breaking down - leaving her in a bad position to have a baby, an affair (in which case the biological father wouldn't be too involved, and having the baby could result in the relationship going down the shitter), or it was a one night stand and thus the father doesn't know). There does need to be a provision for the mother alone to make the decision, but it's always going to be possible for the mother to "go behind the back" of the father and get one without him agreeing that it's for the best because of that.

Yay for morally ambiguous actions!

 

[Shocky]

Shocky to answer your idiotic statement

When you actually look into things, or just have an understanding of common sense you will find many answers
Pot has never killed anyone ever also it helps millions of people across the world and how many people each year are killed due to alcohol and you tell me which one is better
I never mentioned anything about killing babies I said if a women chooses for whatever reason to get abortion then she should have every right to have one

Common sense, as in pot is completely harmless with zero side effects. If you chose to believe that myth, go ahead. THC may not have directly killed anyone, but accidental fatalities after smoking pot are out there. It's no different then being a jackass while drunk. The alcohol didn't kill you, but it was a side effect of drinking too much.

There is more then enough evidence out there to support the positives of drinking a controlled amount of alcohol daily. It's when people abuse it being dipshits where the problem occurs. Alcohol is good for you.

As far as your little "never said anything about killing babies" crap.

You

Just like gay marriage I have yet to come up or hear anyone with one legit reason why abortion is wrong or people make such a big deal out of it. If you are against abortion then you are against women. Who are these priest and politicians think they are to say women shouldn't get an abortion; women shouldn't get birth control?

Abortion = Killing Babies. Now I'm pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. It isn't my place to tell someone, but there's enough contraceptives out there for someone to take some damn personal responsibility at some point. If you wait until the midterm to have an abortion, then it should be too late, but who the hell am I?

As far as common sense, how about ask a Catholic or a Christian why they think abortion is bad. Those priest, they believe they are doing God's work by fighting it. You may not like it, but who the hell are you to think your opinion means more then theirs?

Now, I'm going to get back to drinking my Chokolat Bomber while enjoying my big meaty Philly Cheese Steak.

 

[ScreaminNormanSmiley]

Lee brought up miscarriages because of how women feel losing their baby. You tell that mother that the baby isn't alive, you're a moron.

You missed that because you want to fight for pro-abortion.

If you tell a woman that her miscarried baby is alive, you are even more of a moron.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

if you want to talk about pot than I'll gladly talk about it in the thread I made on legalizing marijuana The study still says that alcohol still causes more and they have to lied to us before about their marijuana research so I can't put my full trust into this article yet but I'm just getting off topic now

being pro-choice but not pro-abortion makes no sense at the same time the women may think she is doing God's work by no having a baby when she either doesn't want a kid or just isn't ready. Why have a kid if you never planned on having kids or aren’t ready yet that can potentially cause more damage to the kid. And why should a priest opinion mean more than mine I thought God said we are all equals these priest aren’t women and either am I so what makes them have the right to say a women can’t do what she wants to her body. She is not hurting anyone. Nobody has a problem with eating eggs



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