Taker VS Lesnar build up....

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Ohh this is going to be a great build up for Summerslam right ? What a crazy , entertaining , GOD-LIKE brawl on RAW between Lesnar and Undertaker. It took 40 men to hold both men back, and it wasn't enough because they are god-like humans...lol. It was pretty funny and I liked the chaos !

Now here comes the little hater part of my brain.... the match is going to be flat at best. Taker is old and will be only half the wrestler he was only a few years ago, Lesnar can only suplex and F5. I can expect a better match than the lame match he had with Rollins but... they can build the hell out of this match and I'm 100% sure the build will be fun and entertaining....

...but the build will be way better than the match itself.

 

[BigDaddyKewl]

I was skeptical at first about another Lesnar vs Undertaker match. But after tonight's Raw I'm sold. There was a couple good promos from Undertaker and Heyman and of course the brawl between Taker and Lesnar was awesome. It's an easy feud to book and the ground been layed with the streak and The Undertaker wanting redemption. I expect Taker to go over and have a feel good moment and then the two will probably be off tv soon after Summerslam until Wrestlemania season. Hopefully the two can have a safe and entertaining match.

 

[Prince Vee]

Lesnar can only suplex and F5. I can expect a better match than the lame match he had with Rollins but... they can build the hell out of this match and I'm 100% sure the build will be fun and entertaining....

...but the build will be way better than the match itself.

Well, I disagree with you completely. First of all, Brock Lesnar is a pure professional wrestler. He can nail relentless moves and unleash recklessness. But in this context, he has been booked in the way he uses only F5 and German Suplexes.

Secondly, The Undertaker looks in very good shape than how he looked during the Wrestlemania XXX match against Brock Lesnar. I do agree that he's old, older than Kane isn't he? But in the recent times have yous seen Kane move faster that The Undertaker? Absolutely not! And when Kane couldn't even lift Lesnar for a Chokeslam, Undertaker nailed it right to the hell last night. So I'm expecting a good decent brawl here at Summerslam.

Cheers!!

 

[The Last Outlaw]

Tonight actually faired pretty well. Taker's promo was good, I just wish Kane was at least mentioned but eh, I won't complain as I thought the show was good. There's just a couple things I wanted to know. Last night Taker looked like he turned heel, (which I had hoped he didn't) and tonight, he acted like a face. So, I'm guessing the kick to the groin may have been an accident? Lol, leather pants will do that to ya. I would also hope that for Taker's sake, after this match with Lesnar at SS, the two never cross paths again. So, my question for you guys is, do you guys think Taker is a heel, or a face, and do you guys think that after SS, they're feud will come to a close? Personally, after tonight, I see Taker as a face. I also don't see why Taker and Lesnar would need another match if he gets his retribution at SS, they're would be no point.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Tonight actually faired pretty well. Taker's promo was good, I just wish Kane was at least mentioned but eh, I won't complain as I thought the show was good. There's just a couple things I wanted to know. Last night Taker looked like he turned heel, (which I had hoped he didn't) and tonight, he acted like a face. So, I'm guessing the kick to the groin may have been an accident? Lol, leather pants will do that to ya. I would also hope that for Taker's sake, after this match with Lesnar at SS, the two never cross paths again. So, my question for you guys is, do you guys think Taker is a heel, or a face, and do you guys think that after SS, they're feud will come to a close? Personally, after tonight, I see Taker as a face. I also don't see why Taker and Lesnar would need another match if he gets his retribution at SS, they're would be no point.

I really have no idea who is face or who is heel now. It's really unclear isn't it ? Lesnar was gradually turning face with his build up to Rollins, crowds got behind him..... but last nights crazy RAW...Paul Heymen's promo was status quo and it seemed kind of face-like , Taker's promo wasn't what I was expecting either...it didn't answer whether he's a bad guy or what....then the god-like brawl happened.

BONUS : Next time you see the footage of the brawl...and you will if you watch any episode of wrestling between now and Summerslam, look at Undertakers face when Brock escapes the mob outside of the ring and jumps up on the apron...it looks like Taker is laughing uncontrollably and I've never seen the man smile ever, with all the goofy faces Taker made, this one is great !

 

[The Last Outlaw]

I really have no idea who is face or who is heel now. It's really unclear isn't it ? Lesnar was gradually turning face with his build up to Rollins, crowds got behind him..... but last nights crazy RAW...Paul Heymen's promo was status quo and it seemed kind of face-like , Taker's promo wasn't what I was expecting either...it didn't answer whether he's a bad guy or what....then the god-like brawl happened.

BONUS : Next time you see the footage of the brawl...and you will if you watch any episode of wrestling between now and Summerslam, look at Undertakers face when Brock escapes the mob outside of the ring and jumps up on the apron...it looks like Taker is laughing uncontrollably and I've never seen the man smile ever, with all the goofy faces Taker made, this one is great !

I rewatched it and I'm not sure if Taker was smiling or what but it sure looked like it. Either way, that brawl was epic. I wish Raw was like that more often. I just hope Taker stays a face as it's better off that way especially at this stage in his career. I can't wait for SummerSlam and I hope the match is as good as the build. I know that will be hard to pull off but you never know.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Ohh this is going to be a great build up for Summerslam right ?

How so? What could top tonight? How much more does UT have to say and how much violence are we going to see from them?

But more importantly, how often will they show up?

What a crazy , entertaining , GOD-LIKE brawl on RAW between Lesnar and Undertaker. It took 40 men to hold both men back, and it wasn't enough because they are god-like humans...lol. It was pretty funny and I liked the chaos !

Me too.

Now here comes the little hater part of my brain.... the match is going to be flat at best. Taker is old and will be only half the wrestler he was only a few years ago, Lesnar can only suplex and F5. I can expect a better match than the lame match he had with Rollins but... they can build the hell out of this match and I'm 100% sure the build will be fun and entertaining....

I'm not sure, Lesnar can't be a suplex machine with the old man but he isn't that limited. Both guys are pros and they will figure out a way to work. It should be fine, not great because eventually Taker's age will show but fine all the same.

...but the build will be way better than the match itself.

Other than Heyman's promos (which he could make awesome in almost any feud) and emotional video packages, there is little guarantee this build will deliver.

 

[Aquaman6686]

The match will almost certainly fall flat in the ring. Since his return in 2002, Brock Lesnar can't deliver a great one-on-one match unless he's with a talent who is better than him in the ring, like Triple H or CM Punk. As great as Undertaker is, he's not in good enough shape to carry Lesnar to a great match. I see the feud and buildup being great, but the match itself will be mediocre. Hopefully it won't be AS bad as Lesnar/Reigns, but it may be. But either way, in the long run it doesn't even matter who wins. The match taking place anywhere but WrestleMania renders it irrelevant. If Lesnar wins, it's irrelevant because he already destroyed Undertaker's legacy by breaking the Streak. If Undertaker wins, it's irrelevant because he still couldn't beat Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. The only thing that will change is that he finally would have a one-on-one victory over Brock Lesnar. But without it being at WrestleMania, it doesn't matter.

 

[King502]

I don't see undertaker going to suplex city he is fifty wwe won't jeopardize his health they should of done sting vs taker instead

 

[Navi]

It was a great start to hopefully what will be somewhat of a good match. I wasn't too high on this from the outset, but after that clusterfuck on RAW tonight, which should have continued through the whole show, I'm okay with it.

After the last fiasco I'm sure they will find a way to make both guys look good, without what happened last time. They must already have discussed this otherwise it wouldn't be going forward.

 

[Chicago1989]

I don't get the logic to this storyline. Undertaker looking to get revenge on Brock because he ended The Streak and bragged about it for months makes 'Taker look like a sore loser. He lost the match fair and square.

Secondly, Brock and Paul haven't been bragging about ending The Streak as much as they were like in '14-early 2015.

Does WWE also believe that a 50 year old 'Taker can beat Brock Lesnar? Why wait this long for revenge?

How does this make sense?

 

[TheBadGuy92]

I'm all for the rematch, just for god sake, PROTECT THE UNDERTAKER, I know it's pro wrestling and we like the idea of the undertaker wrestling more than actually seeing it. He looks fragile and Lesnar is a beast. We're gonna need weapons, interference, and other gimmicks to help make the undertaker look strong over Lesnar, and one thing that bothered me. If everyone is calling this the undertakers farewell run, why not let Lesnar beat Rollins for the title undertaker challenges Lesnar for the title at SummerSlam and just run with it one more time. UT beats Rollins, Wyatt maybe Sting. Then defends the title at mania against Cena?? UT wins, shows up on Raw, retires. Drops the title, WWE has a tournament for Lesnar or Reings to win?! (The whole last section was a ramble, sorry not sorry!)

 

[Xemmy]

As far as Raw went last night, Undertaker's promo was a little too old school gimmick. He mentioned why it was so personal, and Paul Heyman did a good job of selling the rest. But I think we could have used a little less talk of souls, reapers, and all that this time around. If shit's personal enough to kick a guy in the junk, you should probably focus more on that. The brawl was good too. Looked excellent.

I don't know. I guess I'm just not up for seeing Undertaker wrestle again. I'm sure it'll be a decent match, and I'm sure he could still go, but Undertaker really showed his age at Battleground. I just don't want Undertaker hurting himself over a Summerslam match with Brock. And honestly, it's a match I don't care to see again. I feel like they'd have to make it really violent for it to be any good. I'd rather he wrestle against a guy that can go and at the same time, protect him in the ring.

 

[MoRtAnDaD]

Raw's speech and attitude and what taker did on sunday night, screams heel.

The problem is, its too big of a fan fav, but it would be cool to see him as a heel one last time, redeeming himself at WM next year, leaving face and in peace.

I didnt see the point for this on sunday, actually as much wow factor it was, it really struck the wrong strings for me. After what happened on raw, things got way better, yet again, dont see the point to jeopardize a face lesnar so fast and put him against probably the biggest face of wwe in the last decade.

These are professionals, make no mistake, Lesnar wont hurt taker (what happened on wm30 was an accident and lesnar carried the rest of the match and kept safe taker by not putting him on any kind of dangerous situation). And taker is a tough guy who knows his limitations and his body.

We wont get an amazing match from in ring performance, like owens cena...or last year triple threat cena/lesnar/rollins. But im confident they will tell a great story and at the end of the day, thats whats all about.

Lets hope, that WWE dont play safe on this one, and give the match to Lesnar, which i highly doubt at this point.

 

[AustinHartLesnarHBKTaz80]

I loved the chaotic scene from Raw. It reminded me of the great Austin/Bret Hart scuffles from Raw '96-'97. (When the hell are these Raws gonna be added to the network by the way???) Anyway, should be a great build to the match, with great hype and great promo work from Heyman and Taker.

Too bad the actual match is gonna tank. Ain't no way Taker goes to suplex city and take multiple suplexes from Lesnar. He's too old and banged up for that s***. This will be an ugly slugfest and brawl at best.

I would much rather see Rollins added to the mix and make it a triple threat main event for the WWE championship.

 

[Wald]

The match will almost certainly fall flat in the ring. Since his return in 2002, Brock Lesnar can't deliver a great one-on-one match unless he's with a talent who is better than him in the ring, like Triple H or CM Punk.

Are you kidding me? Brock v Roman was one of the all time great Wrestlemania title matches and please don't come back and say that that was because of Rollins. That match told a story a hundred times better than most you've seen on WWE TV & PPV since the Attitude Era hit. I'm not saying that was all down to Brock, as Roman was fantastic in it and I hate it when people dismiss anyone in the ring like you just did, but he certainly led the match.

 

[Dream]

I'm not quite sure why I keep seeing people bring up the fact that Taker got a concussion at WM and how it's likely to happen again.

1. Concussion likelihood doesn't increase with age.
2. A 6 year old can get a concussion.
3. The spot at which Taker got a concussion was simply a bad bump. If Taker had taken it 15 years ago, he would have likely have been concussed.
4. Taker has dramatically oversold the last~8 years of his career (I find this annoying as hell)


That being said, I doubt we are going to see Taker chokeslam Lesnar off the turnbuckle into the announcers table. The real issue I have with this match is, who benefits?

If Taker wins, that kills any momuntem Brock's gained. (Although, I'm assuming Taker will win and Lesnar will be kept off TV until Royal Rumble or at least Survivor Series.)

If Lesnar wins, why bother bringing Taker back for this?

I'd love to see some Santanic Taker shit. I want SS to end with Lesnar on a cross 50 ft above the arena. There are reports saying Taker is working a few days in Mexico in October, so he may be planning to stick around a bit. If that's the case, Taker will certainly win this match as Lesnar takes his scheduled breaks.

Oh -- and anyone who says Lesnar can't wrestle is a fucking moron. Dude is the best technical wrestler on the roster. (Maybe not pro wrestler, but real wrestling. Also obviously the most talented figher on the roster in general)

P.S. Taker is only 5 years older than HHH and 2 years older than Kane. Dude will be fine.

 

[Mustang Sally]

...but the build will be way better than the match itself.

Possibly, but the match might be better than we think. When you get a guy who knows how to work the way Mark Calaway does, you can be pretty sure he's not getting in the ring unless he knows he can bring it.....and 'bring it' has as much to do with ring psychology as it does actual wrestling maneuvers. He can tell a story....he can work a match.

I thought his WM matches with Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Brock Lesnar were excellent, especially given 'Taker's age and physical condition. Yes, many fans claim to have hated those contests, but if you like the spectacle of two old pros of legendary status making it look as if they're destroying each other while actually not doing major harm, I would think you'd enjoy Undertaker-Lesnar II.

On the other hand, if you're a fan who goes to arena shows but likes only matches that last 45 seconds and contain only leaps off the top rope and people being thrown onto the collapsible announcer's table......and is too busy texting to watch the match going on in the ring..... 'Taker-Brock II probably isn't for you.

 

[OYDK]

1. There is no heel and face here people... have you never seen a feud where both guys are just enormous fan favorites? Rock/Austin anyone? There does not need to be a heel in this program, plain and simple. If Taker Tombstones Lesnar the fans will cheer. If Lesnar F5's Taker the fans will cheer. Last night should have shown you that much.

2. The match probably won't be a 5 star match, that's no secret. But really, who cares at this point? This will be a spectacle and it will be remembered strictly because its Taker and Lesnar. I'm really only interested in the ending for this match as I'm intrigued to see who walks out the winner. Surely WWE won't give us a no finish in the main event at Summerslam, right?

3. I don't see Taker getting destroyed like everybody else who's faced Lesnar has. I think it will be Lesnar's "toughest" match since his last match with Taker, but he'll ultimately walk out the winner again. There's just more ways to go forward with a Taker loss at this point.

 

[wrestler36]

I think you're going into wrestling geekdom a little too much. Wrestling nerds are looking for a hot feud to turn into the matches Cena and Owens are having and it will be nothing like that. Think Hogan/Rock at Wrestlemania. The match was very meat and potatoes. But the wrestler's followed the emotion of the crowd and vice versa. These guys aren't selling a five star match. They're selling retribution and 'I'm badder than you.'

 

[SSJPhenom]

I believe 'Taker and Lesnar are fully capable of having a great match. You can't use their Wrestlemania 30 match as a point of reference to what their next match might be. Why? Because 'Taker suffered a concussion fairly early on in that match and it severely impaired him for the remainder of the match. The fact that he continued to work for as long as he did after the injury is a testament to his toughness and professionalism.

As for the current build up, its definitely started off with a bang. I'm a 'Taker mark through and through and anytime I get to see him in action is a good time. Hopefully they continue on this hot start and make it even better. Also, hopefully they show up on the majority of Raws between now and Summer Slam besides just the go home Raw.

 

[The Warlord]

IMO its an unfinished story and the match needs to happen. Summerslam is the perfect ppv for it. A big enough show but not another Wrestlemania rematch.

If the booking is done right...they will shock us again with another Lesnar victory. The druids can come out and carry the Undertaker away...while Lesnars heat isnt affected...and only builds his character further.

They can write off Taker...saying its the end of his career. Somehow they need to involve his Wrestlemania opponent around Royal Rumble time...to bring the deadman back one last time for his farewell match at WM32.

OR...Id be ok if it ended in a false finish if that means protecting both guys and building towards Mania. Sting can appear and attack Taker...but they need to put their thinking caps on (pulling head out of ass) and find a good reason.


To me...that makes the most sense. But its pro wrestling..,so who the hell knows.

 

[chicagokmc]

My favorite part was Triple H/Steph ordering the boys in the back to get in there and break them up! Normally when everyone is assembled like that it turns into a big melee but this stayed focus with no one getting licks in but instead just trying to keep them apart.