Swagger to Legacy

[matth71]

After seeing Jack Swagger in the gauntlet match, it left me with the impression that he was giong to join legacy. He could potentially be Ted Jr's replacement. I wont be a bit surprised to see this go down next with with The million dollar man guest hosting raw.

any thoughts, predictions?

 

[sTyLnK]

As soon as he shook Orton's hand that popped into my head as well. I like Swagger, he has a ton of potential and could really fit in well with Legacy.

 

[Paradox]

I really think that it's going to happen next week, I see the million dollar man coming in, and giving Teddy a match against Randy for the title.. Then Swagger helps Orton win the match...

 

[matth71]

It did mine too, he could be the muscle guy that legacy desperately needs. Ted leaving legacy is inevitable and instead of ending the whole stable, Swagger could just step in and imo actually make Legacy better.

The way i see it is Legacy is better with Swagger than Dibiase, and Dibiase would be better without Legacy.

 

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

Ya Swagger would be good in Legacy, except for the fact that he is not a 2nd or 3rd generation superstar, so it would be stupid if he were to join Legacy.He can still be friends with Orton and not be in his stable.

 

[matth71]

Im not sure if it would matter b/c didnt Orton offer Batista a spot in Legacy. At the end of the day i'm sure there would be some explanation as to why Swagger is part of the group. I just have a feeling that this is where the whole thing is headed. Why else would he just let himself get counted out and then shake Orton's hand.

 

[Mr. Truth]

While I would like to see Swagga in Legacy, it wouldn't fit. He isn't a 2nd/3rd/10th generation wrestler. I think the whole him coming out and not wrestling thing was just to set up the Mark Henry face turn.

 

[Randy2.0]

As the guy above you posted, it doesnt matter as he offered Batista a chance to join. Does it really matter anyways? They could make something up like he is a distance cousin of a wrestler.

 

[RendarSelin]

Swagger in Legacy? It would be hard to believe without a kayfabe explanation of Swagger's heritage (perhaps state Swagger's father was an accomplished amateur wrestler?). The only think I dislike of the idea of Swagger in Legacy is the fact that Legacy has become a joke in recent weeks. We would need Legacy to actually establish themselves as a true dominant heel stable, much like Evolution in the end of 04 (HHH as champ, Flair/Batista as tag champs, Orton as IC Champ). We would need Orton as champ, Rhodes/DiBiase (or replacement) as tag champs, and Swagger as US Champ (the All-American American as US Champ...can you imagine the announcement: "Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the United States Champion, the All-American American...Jack Swagger!")

 

[matth71]

That is exactly what i'm predicting. But we all know that DiBiase will be turning face sooner than later. He has a movie to promote and how well would a movie sell with a heel henchman as the leading roll. There will be some sort of explanation i'm sure, and imo the addition of Swagger would help establish Legacy as dominate. He has hled the ECW title and also put on a good match with Cena. He would help stop the countless jobbing that Legaacy has been doing lately. As i see it, Swagger joining Legacy is the best solution for all of this

 

[JJYanks121]

I think Swagger joining Legacy would be a mistake. Swagger has been established as a character who's ego is bigger than the arena, so putting him with someone who thinks that much of himself and more is a mistake. A clash of egos won't work and neither of those guys should have to make a turn for an inevitable fued. Keep them both heels in their own regard and Swagger will be main eventing in no time on his own.

I was actually hoping for Jesse to get drafted to join legacy (son of Terry Gordy). Doing that would give them 4 members and open up one guy to go for the US, presumably Cody. I know a lot of you might say Ted, but until I hear him speak one line without messing up, I will forever see him as a walking joke. As to the poster who said he has to turn face to promote his movie.......good luck. Ted needs the group right now a lot more than they need him. If they were to put him on his own, he would sink right now. Cena couldn't sell a WWE film, why would Ted be able to anyway, that movie is set up for failure.

Something to think about though, with Ted's father hosting the show, perhaps Ted's brother Brett debuts and joins Legacy, which would do the same job as Jesse. Then you have the DiBiase tag team, could be interesting.

 

[RikRaines]

I pretty much have to agree with JJYanks121.

Ted DiBiase isn't ready for a singles career yet. Honestly, leaving Legacy will accomplish what for him right now? Nothing.

Night of Champions is coming up and that's either HHH or Cena; unless Orton drops the belt here, which I think would be a big mistake. So then we have SummerSlam and I can't picture an Orton vs DiBiase SummerSlam Co-Main Event. I don't think DiBiase is ready for more then a mid card singles match right now.

Now by staying with Legacy, DiBiase has constent exposure to the camera. In Ring, Backstage, Matches, Interference. He's seen a HELL of a lot more on camera right now then he ever would or will for a while as a Singles superstar. With one exception. If Ted Sr. either decided he was going to manage Ted Jr. and/or he introduces Brett then proceed to kick Orton out of Legacy.

Basically for DiBiase to stay a float right now on RAW, he NEEDS Legacy. Whether he is Orton's "Henchman" or possible even leader (Ted Sr as mouth piece OR some other "Important Role" on RAW? IT COULD WORK!), Without Legacy, he'll get a push for a month or two TOPS, drop down to the US Title and either never win it before heading to ECW OR he'll have several short US Title reigns and then made into a tag-team again.

 

[Legendarius]

Hmm, I was thinking that Swagger got counted out on purpose in order to call in a "favor" somewhere down the road in the form of a title shot. I suppose that wouldn't work right now with the heel/heel dynamic but it would make sense as Swagger tries to catapult his way in to the title picture.

Swagger in Legacy would also fit since the group hasn't had a guy behind Orton to make it feel like a force not to be reckoned with. Swagger would booked to hang around and maybe win against the guys Rhodes and Dibiase have been struggling against. Should be interesting.

 

[MikeKillam]

Ya Swagger would be good in Legacy, except for the fact that he is not a 2nd or 3rd generation superstar, so it would be stupid if he were to join Legacy.He can still be friends with Orton and not be in his stable.

Yeah, cuz Orton has a lot of friends...he's a real buddy-buddy kind of guy...

 

[Ben-Phillips]

Um... I like Jack Swagger, but hear me when I say FUCK NO!

Here's why: The Legacy was intended for Randy Orton to take younger MULTI-GENERATIONAL could-be's and turn them into tomorrow's WWE Champions. Jack Swagger doesn't need help from Randy Orton.. He needs help from FCW. He's talented, but he's still really green and shouldn't even be on RAW, let alone joining The Legacy... He should have stayed on ECW to polish his skills a bit more, because he REALLY needs to work. He still blows spots, botches, and isn't very believable in the ring..

Not to mention, he doesn't have a real gimmick... Just a nickname. He's basically a ground/mat wrestling based Shelton Benjamin... His gimmick is that he's a legitimate athlete.. That won't take you anywhere... Many have come up with that gimmick: Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle.. And they turned their roles into something as simple as a dominating monster heel, and "An American Hero." Angle could do so much because he had a very simple gimmick and carry it into outrageous angles and continue to elevate himself and others...

Now let's look at Jack Swagger... All he's got is "I was an All-American! And I'm American!" For the most part.. Yeah? Same with 50% of the boys in the back. He needs to branch his gimmick out.. He's basically the next Kofi Kingston. Sky is the limit, talent wise... Yet, the gimmicks or lack there of will hold them back and subsequently run their careers into the ground. Look at Kofi Kingston, he needs to be repackaged, rebranded and retooled in general SO badly... His gimmick is "I'm Jamaican!" And, he's not even from Jamaica. WWE should force a gimmick down Swagger's throat, like Dusty Rhodes did with Shelton Benjamin (The Gold Standard) or send him down to FCW again.

If they don't... He'll end up just like Shelton Benjamin! Going from a main event contender, to a jobber... Gets a good gimmick, makes it work for six months, burn out and not know where to go with it, then back to the drawing board.. Thus, why he's been moved BACK to ECW.

I'll probably get some heat for this response, but let me clear it up right now.. Despite looking like Gary Busey and Julia Robert's secret horse-faced lovechild, I love Jack Swagger.. (QUOTE THAT! Lmfao) He's just being over-pushed and thrown to the big time waaaay to quickly, and at this rate, destined to crash and burn.

 

[DRAGO!!!!]

my only argument with this is that Swagger has already proved himself to be a main event talent guy. Ted hasn't really done anything as yet. I figured he and Cody would get the Tag belts again. And then they start in singles. Swagger is better then Ted. But i dont think Ted is ready to go on him own. If Swagger joins legacy which i first thought aswell. I dont think Ted will be leaving i think they are gonna own every belt. I dont see them bumping Ted up yet.

 

[Black Snow]

Like others have said, Swagger doesn't need Legacy and thus shouldn't join. Cody and Ted are right to be in the group because they have yet to establish their own individual personalities. Maybe Ted will eventually leave the group with a face turn but that doesn't seem like something that will happen anytime soon. Maybe if he wouldn't have helped Orton last night I'd buy that he's leaning towards leaving the group but now? Nah. No way.

Swagger could challenge for the U.S. or WWE title right now and he wouldn't seem out of place in the least. So why chop his legs out from underneath him by having him join Legacy? I just see him as a guy that will enter into a "I scratch your back and you scratch mine" relationship with Orton that doesn't go any further than the fact that they're both heels.

Carlito and Primo argued after their match. Might I suggest one of them as the fourth member of the group?

 

[LCShazardous]

1st off jack swagger is not 2nd gen like Cody or ted but they could work something out like he's better that all his past generations put together or something. "he doesn't have to be 2nd gen he's next gen" something like that

i however do not want to see that happen i mean it could be a good push for swagger but because of the way legacy works it probably won't. he'll just end up like Cody and Ted, getting there asses handed to them by the likes of HHH and Cena for the sake of randy bore-tons livelihood

i personally hope swagger does not join legacy for it will most likely fuck up his career lie it is with Cody and Teds.

he could do something more meaningful like going for the US championship think about it

THE 2 TIME 2 TIME ALL AMERICAN AMERICAN JACK SWAGGER THE UNITED STATES CHAMPION

sounds like a good fit eh?

 

[beefthelegend]

Yeah....no.

Swagger got called up to the Majors from Triple A Ball. Falling into a group of flunkies would NOT be good for him.

I would like to see him in a feud with Cena. Their match killed at the draft special (I think it was the Draft...). If Swagger does indeed replace Ted then better days are behind for him.

I think they need to have Priceless turn on Orton, then, and only then, would Swagger fit. Of course, i think they work better as heels...and Orton can't hold a face swing down. So that is out of the question.

It comes down to Ted vs. Swagger, who should get the main light first? And i think Swagger should. I like Ted, and see big things for him (including the WWE title that eluded his father), but I gotta give the edge to Swagger.

 

[AgeOfOrton]

this is kind of like what TNA are doing with Matt Morgan wanting to be in the MEM as MEM wont let Morgan in because he hasnt won a world title i dont see Swagger joining Legacy because of the fact that hes not continuing a legacy from any past ancestors of his

 

[GSM]

Swagger in Legacy huh ?

Hey that sounds ... stupid.

1. He´s not 2nd or 3rd generation.
2. His character is more likely to be a loner.
3. He doesn´t fit in.
4. If you´re in Legacy and your name is not Randy Orton you will get squashed.
5. HE DOESN`T FIT IN !

Seriously if they make Swagger a part of Legacy he will be a jobber like Rhodes and Dibiase and yes, Dibiase is the future but right now his membership in Legacy doesm´t seem to be any big push.

Swagger has talent and he can carry a match very well, make him a part of Legacy and he´ll get jobbed to HHH every week in 5:00 minute matches.

 

[RH23]

I think Swagger joining Legacy is inevitable. WWE is big plans for both DiBiase and Swagger. I like the idea of him winning the U.S. title while DiBiase and Rhodes are in the tag division but I just don't see that happening. I think DiBiase is going to get kicked out of Legacy similar to when Orton was kicked out of Evolution(but I doub't he'll win the title like Orton did). I think he'll be kicked out because when his father is on Raw next week, he'll give him the option of a title shot and Orton doesn't want him to challenge him. So when he accepts Orton will kick him out of Legacy by having Swagger and Rhodes come out and kick the shit out of him.

 

[y2empleh]

When I saw the counted out ending to Swagger/Orton, I figured it was that Million Dollar Man simply bought swagger off. Then the same could be said for Henry but he wanted to pin the champion instead of taking the cash.

As for Swagger joining Legacy, I don't think it's necessary. People keep wanting to compare Legacy to Evolution, so let's do that. Evolution worked in 3 functions, it served as a means for Flair to "pass the torch" to HHH, it served to help 2 basically unknown talents at the time, Orton and Batista, to get the rub from HHH and Flair, and it served to eventually push those 2 unknown talents to main event status by eventually having separate singles feuds with HHH for the world title once they split. The point I want to make is Swagger is far from an unknown Talent, he has carried a major title with the company, and carried that title well. I wouldn't say that Swagger couldn't benefit from joining legacy, but I think that there are others who could benefit way more. I've always felt that Dustin Rhodes should drop the golddust gimmick tag team with Cody in a western/country tag team. Keep in mind, Orton's father was COWBOY Bob Orton.

The other topic that seems to keep popping up in this thread is Dibiase Jr leaving Legacy to promote the new movie. I don't think that's necessary, Have Dibiase make a few plugs for the movie and Orton basically brush him off. They have a good thing going in the slow tension b/w Orton and Dibiase but I think having that split anytime soon would be a huge mistake. Slowly build up Dibiase so he could be considered a main event guy then have him split with Orton.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Jack Swagger is NOT going to be joining Legacy. It was more of a statement that hes not their to be their enemy, he's there to be his own person - separate, and out of Legacy's eye-sight.

Swagger.. the All American American is the perfect opponent to go up against the United States Champion. I mean, hasn't anyone put this together yet? Swagger, the All American American.. as your United States Champion.

Think of the promos Swagger could have, as America's Champion. It could be epic beyond levels of anything I've ever seen before.

 

[Uncle Sam]

You stole that from NorCal, Will.

I don't really see Swagger joining Legacy though. It'd be alright to see him as a sometime ally of theirs, but as a full-time member, it isn't going to happen.

He isn't even second generation. Probably.