Speculation Regarding the Death of Chris Benoit

[X]

Thats great that you quoted it, but it doesn't change the fact that you quoted something so mind-bogglingly ******ed, it warrants this kind of reaction from me. Did you even read what that guy said before quoting it here? And what parts of it "make sense" in the slightest when I just shot that theory to death three posts ago?

I'm not on a "high horse", I'm on a "smart horse" and a "logical thinking horse". Maybe you should join me. It'd be the same as if I was coming up with theories like "Hey, but yeah, what if Hitler didn't do that holocaust thing? What if he was held hostage and forced to do it? Or what if his mistress Eva Braun did it all?" theres just as much evidence with that hairbrained theory as the one you're quoting.

I'm not trying to offend you buddy, I'm trying to appeal to your sense of logic and reason. Because while it's great to speculate on all possibilities, there ought to be atleast a shred of evidence supporting those possibilities. The one you listed has none. It's simply dangerous and ignorant to pretend that Benoit didn't do this, or to even assert that he didn't when all evidence points directly to him and no one else.

 

[Napalm Death]

A simple, "well, thats kind of far-fetched" would have done. Instead of flaming someone for bringing a WHOLE different angle to the discussion, even if its far out. The whole thing is far out.

 

[cuzican]

Medical examiners take body temps in every case and weight against normal body temp, thus figuring how many hours they have been dead, along with how stiff and possible decay of the body. This is routine for any case like this.Before they determined for sure, authorities believed it may have been Sat, Sun, Mon that the deaths took place. Once they had more specific results, it was determined more like Fri, Sat, Sun. Regardless, They did determine by body temp, etc, whether they state it or not, that she died first. There are many Joe Schmo's that kill their families nad themselves unfortunately. In this case, it is just so hard to swallow, because its someone we respected, and it all came all of a sudden. he was never known to miss a show before. He did it. No conspiracy. Sorry.

 

[artoor24]

I have several questions in regards to the text message, oh and also one about Chavo's tribute.
1. Why did Chris Benoit send a separate text from his wife's cell phone after sending several messages from his phone?
2. Why did he keep sending the same messages over and over letting them know his physical address? I mean, that text message just seemed so computerized.. but then again, I guess it depends on whom he was texting.
3. Have the police proven without a doubt the dates of the murders?
Somewhere I read it started Friday, somewhere else I read Saturday.

And as for Chavo's words during the tribute, does anyone remember what he said? I was trying to figure out when he was telling the story was he speaking about this past weekend when the murders occured or the week before that?

Ok the first question is just stupid...maybe his battery went out...for christ sakes

for real guys think about the text message...i mean...wudnt even vince mcmahon know where he lives??...and he sents a message to chavo saying where he lives...to chavo?...CHAVO GUERRERO?....they were like brothers man...and chavo shudnt know where chris lived???...i donno something doesnt add up here

 

[wanda jester]

This is wedsday and I'm still have truoble with all of this.It just does not seem real. I having a hard time believing Chris did this. My heart does go out to everyone who loved and knew them.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

Ok the first question is just stupid...maybe his battery went out...for christ sakes

for real guys think about the text message...i mean...wudnt even vince mcmahon know where he lives??...and he sents a message to chavo saying where he lives...to chavo?...CHAVO GUERRERO?....they were like brothers man...and chavo shudnt know where chris lived???...i donno something doesnt add up here

What doesn't add up is the fact that people are still trying to spin it so Chris Benoit didn't do it. That's what doesn't add up.

 

[JayAvarice]

Chavo stayed at his house recently so if he forgot that quickly then we should evaluate Chavo for mental ******ation.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

Has it been said somewhere that Chavo is the person he was talking too? I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere.

 

[mrchrisaschrader]

The more I read the less and less I am inclined to go on my own instincts. I've tried to think it wasn't Chris that did this and that some he knew and trusted did it hence the reason for no forced entry.

I just can't comprehend why he would go this far?

 

[DerylMorley]

I guess I'll chime in here.

The term "bi-polar" has yet to be used in the news, but going on recent events and other tragedies, it will likely come up. As a person that has Bi-polar disorder (I am currently under doctor's care and medication to combat the symptoms, but the disorder has no cure yet) I can tell you that Chris Benoit displayed symptoms of a downward slide related POSSIBLY to Bi-Polar disorder.

Not that long ago his wife filed for divorce and a restraining order, she later dropped those requests. Something that is VERY common in couples where one person has advanced BPD (Bi-Polar Disorder). My first wife and I almost split several times before I finally filed for divorce from her.

A person with BPD can often be a lot like a child. We are EXTREMELY sensitive at times and we require a special type of person to be close to us (Remember, Benoit wasn't really close with a lot of people, he was a "loner" in the locker room). I have a select group of online friends and only about 10 people outside of my family that I even talk to on a regular basis. Fortunately for me, I have an amazing wife and family and I get a lot of time with my wife and kids, Benoit had almost no time with his family and there is no way to tell how understanding Nancy was.

His son was "small". In fact one report put him as a "borderline dwarf". Normally that's no big deal, but apparently to Benoit it was a MAJOR deal, he was giving his son growth hormones to help him grow faster. When a person with BPD has the opportunity to blame ANYTHING on themselves, they will likely do it, wether it happens to be in the open to other people or just to ourselves quietly.

His career wasn't exactly at it's high point. His time was winding down and he had just been moved to ECW with a title run in his future, but it was the ECW title, a strap that doesn't exactly mean a whole hell of a lot in the business. Granted Lashley did a lot for that title, but it wasn't anywhere near the other two straps. Whenever professional life clashes or starts to faulter it effects some people with BPD in a very harsh way. This is the reason that I am not allowed to work any jobs that may give me a hopeless feeling. I cannot work at McDonalds, in a factory, or as a day laborer in any capacity. Any work that I do has to be rewarding emotionally. he may have loved wrestling, but it was on a downcycle for him at that point in time in my opinion (granted, I don't KNOW how he felt, but this is the speculation thread).

Now take into account his age. 40 years old. That's a nice round number isn't it? In fact, 40 is a time that a lot of people have a hard time with. I had a hard time with 30. My wife is not Bi-Polar and she's upset about turning 30 this year. Throw BPD into the mix at 40 and you have another log on the fire.

I'm not saying that Chris Benoit had BPD, but if he did, all of those medications will tell us if he was at least being TREATED for BPD. If he wasn't being treated and HAD BPD, he was a ticking time bomb. Toss in the potential steriods and pain meds, and you have a nasty situation.

I think it's important to state that not all people with BPD are dangerous to others. Most of us are more of a danger to ourselves than anyone else. IF Chris Benoit is found to have been Bi-Polar, it could explain some of the behavior.

When in a depressed state, there is no time for a suicide note, nobody would care anyway (that's the thought quite often).

As for the text messages, I believe they were either sent in a mentally tormented state, or they were intended to be strange and send up "red flags" to the people that he sent them to.

His cell phone could have died, or he could have switched to her phone to make the messages even more noticable.

Just my two cents on the matter.

 

[X]

A simple, "well, thats kind of far-fetched" would have done. Instead of flaming someone for bringing a WHOLE different angle to the discussion, even if its far out. The whole thing is far out.

I never flamed you once. I flamed your idea.

 

[deepplum]

"BPD (Bi-Polar Disorder)."

FYI, BPD is "borderline personality disorder", bi-polar disorder is known as BD.


Just wanted to let you know

 

[Napalm Death]

Same difference? It doesn't matter really. I read what I had added to the board, sure it was out there, but I still dont think its in the realm of "impossible". As I have stated probably 3 times now, I am more than sure he did it - that was just for conversation purposes and a whole different outlook that has been talked about yet.

 

[Shocky]

I guess my big concern is, and I don't have a background in autopsy's or anything, but if they haven't found any bruising to suggest that Daniel was strangled, isn't it a bit far fetched for the coroners to assume that Benoit "Choked" his son, simply because of process of elimination. Really, that doesn't add up.

Look, all logic says that Benoit did it, but with cops jumping to conclusions, it does raise ground for speculation.

District Attorney Scott Ballard said the autopsy indicated that there were no bruise marks on his neck, so authorities are now assuming he could have been killed using a choke hold. "It's a process of elimination," he said.

I have a degree in archaeology/anthropology, and I'm tell you right now, in my form of scientific research, that quote doesn't mean shit. Process of Elimination is laymen terms for, we have no fucking clue yet, and we're assuming that a 240 pound man that was a wrestler, used a sleeper hold on his kid.

Like I said, I'm 99.9 percent sure Benoit did this, but these Hick cops aren't exactly blowing me away with their detective work.

 

[Loveless Chulita]

First off, No, I wasn't trying to flip the story so that Chris Benoit would come off innocent, I think he did it, but since this is the thread for speculation I wanted to throw that out there because it's been on my mind.
No one is saying that it's not feasible that his phone went dead but either way the text messages were weird as hell.

Now back to my question about the tribute show I kept walking in and out the room so I didn't catch everything that Chavo said.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

Like I said, I'm 99.9 percent sure Benoit did this, but these Hick cops aren't exactly blowing me away with their detective work.

Yeah,like the big city boys always get it right. Smothered,choked isn't it basically the same thing?

 

[JayAvarice]

Like I said, I'm 99.9 percent sure Benoit did this, but these Hick cops aren't exactly blowing me away with their detective work.

Yeah,like the big city boys always get it right. Smothered,choked isn't it basically the same thing?

Yeah talk about getting the biggest country bumpkins on the one of the most important events in wrestling history.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

First off, No, I wasn't trying to flip the story so that Chris Benoit would come off innocent, I think he did it, but since this is the thread for speculation I wanted to throw that out there because it's been on my mind.
No one is saying that it's not feasible that his phone went dead but either way the text messages were weird as hell.

Now back to my question about the tribute show I kept walking in and out the room so I didn't catch everything that Chavo said.

go see it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8bbTFGZ9UE

here is William Regal's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mv0u-nhv5o

 

[Loveless Chulita]

Thanks! I didn't hear William Regal talk either, that was interesting.

Oh, and thanks for posting up Chavo's comments, I just wanted to be clear he said last week.

 

[cuzican]

Enough of the choke hold talk, please. Authorities stated Daniel was suffocated with a bag.

 

[RageAgainstTheCenaMachine]

i dont know if this is off topic or not, but what if benoit came home a found his wife and son dead, then hung himself. That could of been it, but then again im pretty sure im wrong, i just dont want it to be true. Right now people are turning toward that he killed his family and others are in denial that their herio would do something as tragic as this, well right now we are THINKING that he did it, but they could be wrong, so you never know.

 

[DerylMorley]

FYI, BPD is "borderline personality disorder", bi-polar disorder is known as BD.


Just wanted to let you know

Thanks. I guess having it doesn't make one an expert on the shortened version of that name

Either way, I'd be willing to bet that the term comes up in the next week or two

 

[summernomore33]

the more you look at it the more it seems he did it!! he was in a bad place and took his family with him. Not one police officer or anyone involved in the case thinks anyone besides benoit could have and did do this.

 

[deepplum]

Thanks. I guess having it doesn't make one an expert on the shortened version of that name

Either way, I'd be willing to bet that the term comes up in the next week or two

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if both of them came up. Borderline is known for angry outbursts and uncontrollable emotions. I almost hope that there's something like that, because nothing really makes sense.

 

[Loveless Chulita]

i dont know if this is off topic or not, but what if benoit came home a found his wife and son dead, then hung himself. That could of been it, but then again im pretty sure im wrong, i just dont want it to be true. Right now people are turning toward that he killed his family and others are in denial that their herio would do something as tragic as this, well right now we are THINKING that he did it, but they could be wrong, so you never know.

But if that was to be true, why would he call WWE and tell them that his family has food posioning (don't quote on me on the exact words that were said). If he was too walk into his home and find his family dead, I don't think the first instinct is to just kill yourself or to call your job and tell them that he's taking his family to the hospital.

I do agree with you and maybe people are thinking of what could have happened in so many different ways because A LOT of people looked up to Chris Benoit, and who wants to hear that someone they admire could do something so horrific. I was never a big fan of him but I did respect his wrestling talents.