Sons of Anarchy

[Mailman]

Two-hour season finale tonight. The last season finale of the show that won't be the series finale. I'm pretty excited for it, honestly.

Last week's preview did not show a pretty picture for the future of Juice. However, despite attempting to kill himself unsucessfully a couple times already, I think Juice will manage to survive to Season 7.

How about Nero? We know, based on last week's preview, that he, in one way or another, tells Jax that he knows he ordered Juice to kill the mother of the kid involved in the school shooting. Does Nero make it to Season 7? Will his alliances remain with the club going forward? I'll say.

This brings us down to Tara. Some seem to think she'll end up in prison. Season 6 ended that same way, so I don't see why they'd go down that road again.

I'll more than likely be wrong on all accounts (I most of the time am), but I see Gemma killing Tara to end Season 6.

Anyway... hope everyone enjoys tonight's show and am interested in hearing other people's thoughts prior to and after the finale.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Juice has gone down this path before. He nearly killed himself years ago because he didn't want to lose his patch, and now that script has flipped and he's nearly killed himself for remaining one. On paper, he betrayed the trust of the president of the club. I have no idea what happens there, to be quite honest. It all depends on the mercy of Jax, who hasn't been too merciful since taking on the club presidency. He deals with the vast majority of his problems by killing them. Tara's old boyfriend, Clay, the Chinese, Gaelan, various Irish, various Mayans, various Niners, etc. Does Juice escape that? It's not as though he's never killed a club member before. Well, technically, at least.

The Nero side of it is what I'm much more concerned over. Nero, in a lot of ways, has taken on a father role for Jax, who lost the one he had in place there for years prior (Clay). He betrayed that trust in having what's her face killed, but at the same time, can Nero really afford to walk away? He's in love with his mother, who I think we all would agree won't leave Jax, her grandchildren or the club for that matter. Is he really going to force her to choose?

 

[Danger Burger]

The season finale is tonight? Excellent, I just caught up today. Haven't seen any preview though. Can't say I have a ruddy clue what will happen though. I have to think the real trouble comes with pounder. Tara is in hiding, but the Sons know the DA is the one making the deal. When it comes to saving the club... I can't imagine that line couldn't be crossed. I can't see anyone killing Tara, though her part is draining me lately.

I can't figure out why anyone trusts Gemma at all in any instance. Even though she's relatively clean at the minute, she's screwed over everyone at this point.

The Juice/Jax/Nero stuff should be good. For no apparent reason I really enjoyed their little tussle a few episodes ago. Juice seems to embody the lingering guilt now that Clay is in the dirt. I see him surviving the finale.

 

[Mailman]

Yeah... I see Juice surviving, as well. But where do they go from here with Juice? Does Chibs beat the shit out of him again? That's always fun. Does Juice redeem himself again in some way?

One way or the other, I think tonight's the night when Jax finds out about Gemma's involvement in John Teller's accident. Will Tara tell him in a last ditch effort to save herself? Nero knows.. does he tell him in an effort to sabotage the family?

 

[Danger Burger]

I'm seeing juice as the only one who gets away in the end. He seems a lot like another character in another TV show that was quite popular in the last year. I doubt I need these but screw it, I wouldn't want to wreck somebodies fun:

Spoiler

Jesse in BB.

I forgot entirely about that angle. That could be very good. I don't think Tara will spill those beans... But I'm not sure Nero knows how much Jax knows, does he?

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Also, another interesting angle I've seen talked about dates back to the Hamlet origins of the series. Under that premise, Tara (Ophelia) would take her own life, and Gemma (Gertrude) would die due to something put in motion by Clay, before his death.

The latter seems far less likely. The first I could see happening. She is, after all, painted into a lose-lose corner at this point.

 

[Danger Burger]

Also, another interesting angle I've seen talked about dates back to the Hamlet origins of the series. Under that premise, Tara (Ophelia) would take her own life, and Gemma (Gertrude) would die due to something put in motion by Clay, before his death.

The latter seems far less likely. The first I could see happening. She is, after all, painted into a lose-lose corner at this point.

Interesting take. I could definitely see tara taking herself out. To be honest, I had missed the part where we hear the pregnancy was fake, I had no idea what was going on for a while. In that case she was totally capable. I wonder though what could fill Tara's void if she was out of the last season?

 

[justinsayne]

If Tara goes to prison & loses the boys, especially to Gemma, I could absolutely see her taking her own life.

It looks like Juice won't get out alive based on the preview, which means Sutter is probably swerving us, & he somehow does make it out alive.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Tara (Ophelia) would take her own life, and Gemma (Gertrude) would die due to something put in motion by Clay, before his death.

Well, I was close. In a way, Gemma did just die. She may still be breathing, but Gemma is destroyed.

And holy fucking shit for Tara. I honestly need time to process this all.

So much symbolism, too. If you thought this was going to end well, I dunno what to tell you. The opening scene just before the intro said it all with Jax running over the dove.

 

[justinsayne]

Well that happened. Not since Opie has a death on this show had such an affect, the sound of that fork going into Tara's skull is going to stick with me for awhile.

It's weird how over the course of the first 5 season's we saw the torment & hell that the club had on Opie & his family, & now it seems the same shit is happening to Jax & his family.

 

[Danger Burger]

Oh holy jesus christ. I have to take a walk. What the fuck. Tv, my only friend, has betrayed me.

 

[Coco]

The opening scene just before the intro said it all with Jax

Yep. It sure did. Jax talked. And talked. And talked. And oh fuck did he ever talk.

That's part of the problem with SOA and these long episodes. I can take a talky show. I can even take talky shows which are shallow and pseudo-philosophical. But my god does Sutter love the sound of his keyboard. It all blends together for me at this point. All the talk about family, and doing the right thing for the kids, and being a good man, and on and on and on. Sometimes you just need to lay out and let the action do the talking. Other times you need to talk about something else because subtext can be fun. But who gives a fuck about subtext or symbolism and Sutter's alleged love of Hamlet and other pseudo-intellectual horseshit when Sutter literally can't stop his characters from talking. And talking. And talking.

And I haven't even touched the show's abundance of over-long montages.

I have no problem with long episodes of television. But there's not enough show here to justify the run times we've had to endure this season. It's like three hour Raws. Holy fuck.

Tara's death was cool. Monumentally telegraphed. But cool nonetheless. Nero and Gemma had another good scene. Jimmy Smits can do no wrong in my book. Everything else kind of sucked.

 

[Danger Burger]

Have to agree with coco to an extent. I'm a little tired of the ten minute block ends where I have to listen to a song and watch as sweet little happens. Thirty seconds would suffice. Gemma hugs Cancer... I mean, Unser... great. I don't care much for a time filling stare down before it happens. Get back to ripping my heart in half or let me get about my business for the day.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Yep. It sure did. Jax talked. And talked. And talked. And oh fuck did he ever talk.

That's part of the problem with SOA and these long episodes. I can take a talky show. I can even take talky shows which are shallow and pseudo-philosophical. But my god does Sutter love the sound of his keyboard. It all blends together for me at this point. All the talk about family, and doing the right thing for the kids, and being a good man, and on and on and on. Sometimes you just need to lay out and let the action do the talking. Other times you need to talk about something else because subtext can be fun. But who gives a fuck about subtext or symbolism and Sutter's alleged love of Hamlet and other pseudo-intellectual horseshit when Sutter literally can't stop his characters from talking. And talking. And talking.

And I haven't even touched the show's abundance of over-long montages.

I have no problem with long episodes of television. But there's not enough show here to justify the run times we've had to endure this season. It's like three hour Raws. Holy fuck.

Tara's death was cool. Monumentally telegraphed. But cool nonetheless. Nero and Gemma had another good scene. Jimmy Smits can do no wrong in my book. Everything else kind of sucked.

Great post. I agree with everything you said. To add to it, even though stuff did happen, it kinda felt like nothing really happened in the two hours up until the very end obviously. I love SOA but I do agree about all the talking. I also think that sometimes Sutter should simplify the stories slightly. I think it gets unnecessarily complex at times. The payoff is amazing (and that's what I love about SOA) but getting there sometimes is a little painful.

 

[HellBoundPower]

I'm a little late to the party with this post, but I had to chime in. I'm still in shock and disbelief over the death of Tara. Not so much that she died, but the manner in which it happened. I never expected her to have such a brutal ending. I figured Gemma would shoot her. The half drowning/fork to the back of the head scenario never crossed my mind. As much as I complained about the Gemma/Tara storyline taking up too much of the time in the episodes in my previous posts, with this ending I can see why it happened.

I'm honestly surprised that Juice made is through this season. With all the shit he's gone through, and everything he's done, I figured he would be done by now. I know a lot of people are fans of Juice, but I'm not. Ever since he stole that brick of coke and killed Miles I've been ready to watch him die. In my opinion he's more of a traitor than Clay was. He's a coward, a rat, and an emotional wreck. I was honestly surprised to see him kill Eli and help Gemma out. Gemma has always been nice to him, so I guess he figured saving her would help save him. He got rid of all the evidence in her dirty Tara kill. I see him suffering a painful death at the hands of Jax, along with Gemma once Jax finds out about both her being the one that killed Tara, and her involvement in the death of his father.

Speaking of Jax, it'll be interesting to see how that last scene will play out in the next season. The DA walks in on him with two dead bodies in his kitchen. Obviously the deal will be null and void with Tara gone, but I don't see how Jax can explain what happened, especially not knowing himself. Charlie Hunnam's acting was phenomenal in that scene. I've always thought he was a good actor, despite some people thinking the contrary, and he really showed it in this episode. Jax's life seems to be falling apart as fast as Opie's did. Those two were born into the club together, and both will probably end up dying bloody.

 

[LSN80]

I couldn't find this before, and since it's drawn quite a bit of posting in it already, there's no reason to start over for one last season. Here's the f***ed up opening post I made and somehow merged into one post. Claim your part, (as I'm going to look them up user by user), and re-post if you have the desire to.

LSN

Begins tonight at 10pm(E) with a 90 minute episode, and there are some major questions to be answered by the Series' end. Among them...

How long is Juice for this world? Will protecting Gemma's secret be enough to keep him alive?

Who else in the club dies by the series end, and who are they?

Is Jax capable of killing his own mother(who killed Tara), and conversely, will Gemma be able to kill (or have someone else kill) her own son for reasons of self-preservation?

Who steps in for Roosevelt(who Juice killed) as the legal presence in Charming?

What role will Wendy(Drea de Matteo) have in the life of her son(Abel) along with Jax and Tara's boy(Thomas), being that de Matteo is joining the regular cast as a regular cast member?
Discuss all things related to the final season of Sons of Anarchy here, starting tonight!

IDR

I think I said in this in the other thread a while ago, probably a year or two back, that this ends in one of two ways:

1. The right way. They all die. It's called Sons of Anarchy, and having this show end in a bright light would be doing not just a disservice to it's nature, but to the fact it's based on Hamlet to boot. Know how Hamlet ends? A bloody fuckin' mess.

2. The wrong way. Jax is happy and the club somehow goes legit with minimal losses. Fuck that.

If I had to take a head count (as in the number that will roll), my guess is Gemma, Jax, Juice and Chibbs are all goners. Maybe the better way to look at it is who might actually live? I dunno, I guess Bobby? Someone will have to carry on the SAMCRO name, and he's probably the most passive of the group left.

Jam

Man I can't wait till Season 7 airs tonight. On my list of greatest modern day TV shows, Breaking Bad is number one. Can you guess who is inches behind it at el numero dos? That's right, Sons of Anarchy. And I have a feeling that it's really going to give Breaking Bad a fight in it's last season. This show is just awesome, and honestly I have no idea what is going to happen. It's so unpredictable. One of the only shows out there where I can hardly ever see where it's going. Jax always has some big plan up his sleeve that the audience never fully finds out about until the end. Season 3 was a perfect example of this.

I was actually a little late to the party. I binge watched the whole series last Summer, just in time for Season 6 to start. So this last offseason was really the only time I had to wait for Sons...and it sucked. I feel bad for those who had to wait every January through August counting down the days, I only had to do it once.

But my counting is over, and I am freaking pumped.

Akhilleus

How long is Juice for this world?

I really don't know. He could be offed this episode. I bet though he doesn't make it past episode five.

Who else in the club dies by the series end, and who are they?

Again, I can't even make a guess. There's going to be a lot. It's almost going to be a slasher film where only the virgin makes it out alive I think. Really though there's two possible endings, put vaguely. Jax survives and makes it out with his kids, or Jax dies and I don't know what happens to Abel and Thomas. Possibly they get left with Gemma, who I don't think is going to survive anyway, child services and they grow up in nice home, or someone in the club like Bobby and they grow up as bikers. Oh and there's Wendy too, but I think she'll be dead by the end too.

But this story is based off of Hamlet, and I'm pretty sure he died at the end. So I can definitely see Jax having the same fate.

Is Jax capable of killing his own mother(who killed Tara), and conversely, will Gemma be able to kill (or have someone else kill) her own son for reasons of self-preservation?

Jax will kill Gemma, but I don't think Gemma will kill Jax. Most definitely though all the things Gemma has done. Especially if he finds out her part in his father's death was much more than he knows.

Who steps in for Roosevelt(who Juice killed) as the legal presence in Charming?

That's an easy one. It will likely just be that freaking DA. I don't think any knew authority figure will pop up.

What role will Wendy(Drea de Matteo) have in the life of her son(Abel) along with Jax and Tara's boy(Thomas), being that de Matteo is joining the regular cast as a regular cast member?

Like I said earlier I think she'll be dead by the end of the series. She may end up being the guardian of both of them when it's all said and done, but I hope not.


Either way it's going to be a good season. Right off the bat we have this thing going on with Tara's death and Jax's revenge. I doubt the DA is going to let up on going after Jax for the school shooting either, so there's that. Then there's the feud with Nero and the Mayans, and also the One Niners and the Irish. There's going to be quite a lot of crossfire, and I don't know how it's all going to end. I think there's a good chance the entire club could be dismantled by the season's end.

IDR

By the way, LSN, they cast Annabeth Gish to replace Roosevelt. This was confirmed a couple months ago. She'll be the new Sheriff, as last nights' episode alluded to during the discussion between D.A. Patterson and Unser explained.

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FX confirms that The Bridge‘s Annabeth Gish will play new sheriff Althea Jarry. The veteran of Stockton’s Organized Crime Unit will be tasked with solving the murders of Sheriff Eli Roosevelt and Tara Knowles. TVLine was the first to report the casting.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/29/so...annabeth-gish/

Ackhilleus

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By the way, LSN, they cast Annabeth Gish to replace Roosevelt. This was confirmed a couple months ago. She'll be the new Sheriff, as last nights' episode alluded to during the discussion between D.A. Patterson and Unser explained.



http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/29/so...annabeth-gish/
Ugh, I never saw her live, but I just googled her and she has a face that just screams bitch. I think she's going to get real nasty this season with the club.

Although by the way Patterson was talking with Unser, it almost seems like she's telling him that they need to go back to just letting the club do their thing, because it seems it was much better that way in the past.

So who knows what she's going to do.

I don't think that's what she was saying, but I do think it's along the same lines. I think she was basically admitting that everything that had been tried in Charming since Unser left/was removed from office just made things worse, and that he seemed to have the best grip/relationship with the Club and the town.

Of course, something to remember here is that she's only partially right. The reason for this was Unser's relationship with Clay, who was still President of the Club at the time. That relationship ended up burning out right along side the chaos that Clay and Gemma produced from the onset, so all this anarchy was inevitable, Unser in charge or not. The internal conflict was still going to happen. The death was still going to happen.

Nate

That fucking cover of Bohemian Rhapsody at the end of the episode was a crime against humanity and the performers should be beheaded. I could barely focus on the scene going on I was so angry.

Decent season premiere. Jax is a fucking fool. How did he not figure out that Gemma was lying the second he told her about the "Chinese" guy that she saw leaving the house?

 

[Akhilleus]

How long is Juice for this world?

I really don't know. He could be offed this episode. I bet though he doesn't make it past episode five.

Who else in the club dies by the series end, and who are they?

Again, I can't even make a guess. There's going to be a lot. It's almost going to be a slasher film where only the virgin makes it out alive I think. Really though there's two possible endings, put vaguely. Jax survives and makes it out with his kids, or Jax dies and I don't know what happens to Abel and Thomas. Possibly they get left with Gemma, who I don't think is going to survive anyway, child services and they grow up in nice home, or someone in the club like Bobby and they grow up as bikers. Oh and there's Wendy too, but I think she'll be dead by the end too.

But this story is based off of Hamlet, and I'm pretty sure he died at the end. So I can definitely see Jax having the same fate.

Is Jax capable of killing his own mother(who killed Tara), and conversely, will Gemma be able to kill (or have someone else kill) her own son for reasons of self-preservation?

Jax will kill Gemma, but I don't think Gemma will kill Jax. Most definitely though all the things Gemma has done. Especially if he finds out her part in his father's death was much more than he knows.

Who steps in for Roosevelt(who Juice killed) as the legal presence in Charming?

That's an easy one. It will likely just be that freaking DA. I don't think any knew authority figure will pop up.

What role will Wendy(Drea de Matteo) have in the life of her son(Abel) along with Jax and Tara's boy(Thomas), being that de Matteo is joining the regular cast as a regular cast member?

Like I said earlier I think she'll be dead by the end of the series. She may end up being the guardian of both of them when it's all said and done, but I hope not.


Either way it's going to be a good season. Right off the bat we have this thing going on with Tara's death and Jax's revenge. I doubt the DA is going to let up on going after Jax for the school shooting either, so there's that. Then there's the feud with Nero and the Mayans, and also the One Niners and the Irish. There's going to be quite a lot of crossfire, and I don't know how it's all going to end. I think there's a good chance the entire club could be dismantled by the season's end.

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Originally Posted by It's Damn Real! View Post
By the way, LSN, they cast Annabeth Gish to replace Roosevelt. This was confirmed a couple months ago. She'll be the new Sheriff, as last nights' episode alluded to during the discussion between D.A. Patterson and Unser explained.


http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/29/so...annabeth-gish/

Ugh, I never saw her live, but I just googled her and she has a face that just screams bitch. I think she's going to get real nasty this season with the club.

Although by the way Patterson was talking with Unser, it almost seems like she's telling him that they need to go back to just letting the club do their thing, because it seems it was much better that way in the past.

 

[justinsayne]

FX needs to tell Sutter to chill out on the looooooooooong drawn out musical endings of the show, this one seemed to just never end, & could have easily been edited down, I get why the wanted to use Bohemian Rhapsody, but they should have just got the original version, would it have cost them a bunch of money, probably but it would've been much better than what we got at the end of this episode. I tend to agree with Nate, Jax is being a fucking idiot right now, he's clearly blinded by rage & his desire to get revenge. Gemma is a fucking twat, & only seems to just make things worse for herself & the club with each lie, in pinning the blame for Tara's death on the Chinese guy it's pretty clear it'll lead to a war between the Sons & the Chinese, which will undoubtedly lead to the death of more club members. Jax will eventually find out Gemma is lying, & that not only did she kill Tara, but she's helping Juice, which will likely lead to bloody scene in which he kills Gemma, & then him & Juice get into a final showdown in which they likely kill each other.

 

[LSN80]

FX needs to tell Sutter to chill out on the looooooooooong drawn out musical endings of the show, this one seemed to just never end, & could have easily been edited down,I get why the wanted to use Bohemian Rhapsody, but they should have just got the original version, would it have cost them a bunch of money, probably but it would've been much better than what we got at the end of this episode.

The same could be said for the episode lengths in general. From the last half of season 6 until now, the episodes have been far too long, which lessens the tension. Not every moment needs to be monumental, but there's so much wasted time, something that shouldn't be in the final season where stakes are so high.

I tend to agree with Nate, Jax is being a fucking idiot right now, he's clearly blinded by rage & his desire to get revenge.

That, and by the fact that Gemma's his mother and all. His relationship with her has always been up and down, but she's always been as close to as part of the club as an outsider can be, her and Unser. There's very little compassion or love left in Jax, but what little he has, he's seemingly saved for Gemma. At least, until he finds out she killed Tara.

Jax will eventually find out Gemma is lying, & that not only did she kill Tara, but she's helping Juice, which will likely lead to bloody scene in which he kills Gemma, & then him & Juice get into a final showdown in which they likely kill each other.

God, I hope not. Jax has always been an anti-hero, but the murder of the pastor and his three parishioners along with the torture and murder of the (mostly)innocent Chinese man has seen him cross a line he can't come back from. Further, Juice makes for a poor final adversary, especially after we've seen him face off with the White Supremacists in Season 2, Jimmy O in Season 3(amongst others), and Clay in Season 4 and beyond.

The only thing that would work is Gemma aligning herself with unknown foes to go after Jax, sacrificing information she knows about him to former enemies in exchange for protection. With regards to Jax, there's no turning back now, he's crossed the line from anti-hero into monster, and the only way he can truly redeem himself at this point is in two ways.

1. Setting up a way for someone(Wendy???) to get his sons out of Charming and away from the life...and...

2. Dying to save the lives of his children, sacrificing his life. Either a.) directly, in a showdown with a larger, yet unseen threat, or b.) Indirectly, trading himself to be tortured and killed to say, the Chinese, in some form of poetic justice, after what he did to the Chinese man in the first episode. So his kids are kidnapped, and he trades his life for theirs.

But Juice as his final adversary, even alongside Gemma? Juice has always been both the biggest screw-up and least emotionally stable member of SAMCRO, and I don't care how many push-ups the kid can do, he shouldn't be of threat to Jax.

No matter how desperate he is.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Boy, this thread really fell off, eh?

At this point, based on the report from earlier this year about only two Sons members dying in the last finale (the first being Bobby, obviously), my second guess is now firm on Juice, who IMO is going to kill himself.

At the end of the day, he's in prison right now for firing shots at cops. Not a light sentence if and when he's convicted. I don't remember if they covered it specifically, as to how long he'd be in, but you'd imagine a career criminal will end up with a multi-year sentence. He's in county right now, which would mean once sentenced he'd be moved to an actual prison, but he'd be housed in County indefinitely until that point.

Factor in the bomb Abel finally dropped on Jax and the fact this will all unravel that the war with the Chinese was over nothing... unless Juice manages to get to Lin ASAP, the trickle-down effect will reach the county jail, and his "mission" is now defunct. What use is a rat-traitor without a task to get back into the clubs' good graces? Unless he manages to get to Lin as soon as possible, he's going to be living out the rest of his time in county (at least) as Tully's prison bitch. And even if he does kill Lin, what does that actually solve now that Jax knows this has all been orchestrated by the actions of his own mother, and that the Chinese actually had nothing to do with it? Unless Jax chalks it up to another lie from Abel, I just don't see how Juice comes out of this alive.

It's exactly that reason I think he's going to just kill himself, rather than hold out hope that there's any way out for him, or more specifically, any way back into the Club. Who the fuck wants to live out their days being repeatedly raped in prison? I'd find a way to rip my own throat out too.

 

[nightmare]

Yeah, I dont see Juice making it. Killing Lin wont mean shit when Jax finds out he helped Gemma. He will either have Tully dispose of him after he is done playing house or Juice finally takes his own life. Considering he has tried before, no-one would really raise an eyebrow.


I really hated to see Bobby go, but at this point we knew a few favorites would go down. I hope Happy & Chibs make it. I also am starting to wonder if Nero steps in to save Gemma or will he ride off leaving all this bullshit behind?


I have to admit, that line Abel shot back to Gemma confirmed to me that he would be the one to tip Jax off about Tara. "Do you know what an accident is?" Damn, kid gotcha there huh?

 

[Akhilleus]

I thought for a good while that Abel was actually going to keep it to himself and then shoot Gemma with a gun Jax left lying around or something.

Guess that's not happening now, but that was a damn good episode. Seeing Mark's bitch finally get what was coming to him was great. And I love what they did with Bobby's death. After they left him alive that first episode he was captured, I was like aw man they aren't going to kill him (I'm not a Bobby fan), but then right when they make it seem like the club is going to get him back the old usual way, they pop him right in the head. Great writing there, I never saw that one coming.

Right now I think Venus is going to kill herself. As far as the club goes, I'm thinking most of them are going to die. I definitely think Tig will. I'm thinking Jerry is going to die, and I'm thinking Nero...with them dangling that dream of getting to the farm and what not and getting out, having it right in front of him, he's not making it.

Not sure about the rest. I do hope Chibs makes it. If Nero doesn't die I can see him taking care of the kids, either him or Wendy. Wendy is more likely.

The chances of Jax making it out though are looking slim. In a way I'd like to see it, but I think I'd also be disappointed because he almost needs to die to make the ending mean something. If they just write it off the easy way and let Jax walk away in the sunset then I'm going to be upset. Maybe back when Tara was still alive and it would've had them go and live a different life I would've been alright with that, but now Jax needs to die. I just hope he goes out poetically.

 

[ServantofTwilight]

The chances of Jax making it out though are looking slim. In a way I'd like to see it, but I think I'd also be disappointed because he almost needs to die to make the ending mean something. If they just write it off the easy way and let Jax walk away in the sunset then I'm going to be upset. Maybe back when Tara was still alive and it would've had them go and live a different life I would've been alright with that, but now Jax needs to die. I just hope he goes out poetically.

Talking about this with my daughter I think Jax is going to meet Mr. Mayhem.

Once the club finds out that the war with the Chinese was based on a lie I think they will do some hard thinking. this war brought the death of Bobby, the member guarding the guns who I cannot remember, and Uncle Jury, a charter Pres who Jax gunned down.

I think they vote in secret, take Jax out to the desert where his 'brothers' will shoot him down.

I also think the show ends with a scene of Abel putting on his fathers cut, showing that the circle will be complete and the process will start again.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Sutter mentioned specifically prior to the start of this season that two Sons would die. If Jax is not the second, and final (first was Bobby), I don't see how Juice gets out of this alive. I just don't.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Talking about this with my daughter I think Jax is going to meet Mr. Mayhem.

Once the club finds out that the war with the Chinese was based on a lie I think they will do some hard thinking. this war brought the death of Bobby, the member guarding the guns who I cannot remember, and Uncle Jury, a charter Pres who Jax gunned down.

I think they vote in secret, take Jax out to the desert where his 'brothers' will shoot him down.

I also think the show ends with a scene of Abel putting on his fathers cut, showing that the circle will be complete and the process will start again.

Not a chance in hell this happens. Not to this group, and least of all to Jax. If it didn't happen with Clay, who was far worse a leader and President than Jax, then how could you justify it occurring with the latter? There's simply too much love for him as a person for that to happen.