Should Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas get pushed?

[Hart>HBK]

I feel that having Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas compete on Heat is a waste of potential main event talent. Shelton Benjamin is arguably the most athletic wrestler in the WWE today and he can do things that no one else can even imagine doing. He's also a great mat wrestler and I feel that WWE is lacking mat technicians. People say that Benjamin has no charisma but I think that he has enough charisma to get over with the fans. Just look at Bobby Lashley, he had no mic skills and he still got over. He may have been a roided up body builder but Benjamin has the skills to be the next main eventer. Another talent that needs a push is Charlie Haas. Haas is another mat technician and his mic skills aren't bad. This guy has one of the best finishing submission holds I've seen (Haas of Pain) and I think that he could have Kurt Angle's ECW gimmick when he was the "Wrestling Machine". Both Haas and Benjamin deserve singles pushes and I think that creating a feud between the two of them on the ECW brand would create great wrestling matches, help the ECW brand become stronger, and it would also give fans a reason to watch ECW rather than watching Big Daddy V win squashes and watch the Miz getting an undeserved push.

 

[MR.SCOTT]

I feel that having Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas compete on Heat is a waste of potential main event talent. Shelton Benjamin is arguably the most athletic wrestler in the WWE today and he can do things that no one else can even imagine doing. He's also a great mat wrestler and I feel that WWE is lacking mat technicians. People say that Benjamin has no charisma but I think that he has enough charisma to get over with the fans. Just look at Bobby Lashley, he had no mic skills and he still got over. He may have been a roided up body builder but Benjamin has the skills to be the next main eventer. Another talent that needs a push is Charlie Haas. Haas is another mat technician and his mic skills aren't bad. This guy has one of the best finishing submission holds I've seen (Haas of Pain) and I think that he could have Kurt Angle's ECW gimmick when he was the "Wrestling Machine". Both Haas and Benjamin deserve singles pushes and I think that creating a feud between the two of them on the ECW brand would create great wrestling matches, help the ECW brand become stronger, and it would also give fans a reason to watch ECW rather than watching Big Daddy V win squashes and watch the Miz getting an undeserved push.

the reason why hass is so undercard, is that the wwe have no faith in him, they call a reaction where no one gets heat the charlie hass pop, its not good but he is a damn fine wrestler, the same goes for benjamin, the guy cant talk but he is superb in the ring and can carry a match with the best wrestlers in the business, they need a mouth piece to make them work as individual champions, i see hass as a midcarder for life but shelton i see as the world champion that has never been crowned, they need to break through that glass ceiling and the only way they can is moving to the ECW brand, get a fresh start and maby making val venis there mouth piece man that would be a huge stable, just leave the porno gimmick behind and make him shawn morly manager of chamions, push these guys correctly and the wwe have the next break out stars, they just need to correct the one thing wrong with them and thats the mic skills, and i hope they get that opportunity

 

[Matisyahu]

I have to agree with you here. Benjamin and Haas while not the most ground breaking duo being the mic are awesome in the ring where it is supposed to matter. All they need is a manager I think.

I dont understand what happened with Benjamin because there for awhile he was riding a great push with victories over even Triple H when he temporarily called himself Mister Benjamin. From my understanding Benjamin began not caring anymore and speaking out too much but I'd be pissed too if I was on the verge of something big only to have the rug pulled out from under me.
But its not to say they didn't try to do things with the guy but I hated to see him become the "I'm being held back cuz I'm a black" character that we've seen played out countless times over the past decade. Benjamin could very well become the future of the business with people such as Orton, Carlito, and Kennedy if he could stay focused.

Haas I see riding his coat tails though because he just isn't interesting enough and doesn't stand out well enough in my opinion but again thats just MY opinion. Haas is a very gifted performer but he is terribly boring to watch sometimes.

Maybe they will get a push eventually but I think it will be awhile before that happens.

 

[MR.SCOTT]

I agree with those comments, the reason hass is boring is that hes too technical and isnt a great story teller, maybe if he was able to work more and more on that he would be at benjamins level, and as for benjamin, jeff isnt good on the mic and gets a world title shot, that to me seems pointless

 

[bigcity]

A manager would help Shelton, but there is nothing that could help Haas. Shelton could World Champion (on ECW), U.S. or I.C.whenever he is needed and would be very passable. Charlie on the other hand will probally be mid carder or a jobber for the rest of his career if it last much longer in WWE. There is nothing you can do for the two of them together. Their best days as a tag team are behind. And its said to say but the best days for WGTT was when they were known as Team Angle and had Kurt Angle and Paul Heyman as mouth pieces. Maybe Angle or Heyman could come back and save this talented dou. NOT!!!!!!!!!

 

[MR.SCOTT]

they can be saved, they dont need either heyman or angle just something fresh, the raw roster is overflowing with main eventers and has a small mid card, shelton is so passed that, maybe if he went to ecw he would get a run and show the rest of the wwe brands that he can main event

 

[simplejt1985]

There was a reason they were proclaimed the World's Greatest Tag Team. They were a great team to watch and they can perform. I think they could have fought with some of the best tag teams in the past. Rockers, Road Warriors, Steiners, Outsiders, New Age Outlaws, they could have beaten all those teams. Maybe not on a regular basis but they are talented enough. Benjamin needs to get that damn blonde out of his hair. He making us black people look bad lol. But he sure can wrestle.

If they going to keep him on Raw then they should turn him face again and have him fuel with Umaga, Kennedy and even get an upset over Orton. And they need to give him the IC title once more just to re-establish his position. That would be a start to reviving him. But he's so good I don't think people are going to get tire of him anytime soon. (As you noticed, I didn't mention Haas)

 

[Shadowmancer]

This is where I think the WWE should have some kind of Exchange program with a Japanese Promotion as Haas could get over in an instant with his style of Wrestling. They both need to work on their mic skills and then you have a team that is ready to be split up in a good way to propel one or both to the top level.

The Charlie Haas Pop has become so famous that people know of it and they think it is funny not to respond because of the existence of the knowledge of the Charlie Haas pop. So it is a really bad circle that has occured as people cannot look past the Charlie Haas Pop for the actual talent he is showing in the ring.

 

[king booker]

i dont want 2 c hass and benjamin return although they have a great tag team record and benjamin has wins over hhh i think the next bug tag team on raw that should bet the push is london and kendric (how ever u spell it)

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Any push would do. While they might not be the most charismatic of tag teams, there certainly up there with wrestling ability. But no WWE decides to push The Highlanders instead. It's a shame. I fully expect Shelton to get a decnt main event push one day. But as soon as the combo splits I think it's a matter of when Haas get's released.

Personally I can't see them ever getting a decent push as a team, for some reason. I expect the next time they challenge for a title then WWE will start the split.

 

[Shocky]

It's shocking that two guys with limitless in ring ability are strangled by the WWE creative team so badly. These guys can wrestle circles around anyone on the current roster, yet, they get nothing.

The Charlie Haas pop is a blessing and a curse. Haas is known for something, but that something like Shadow said, is going to end up getting him fired.

Benjamin has more athleticism and ability in his pinky then probably 90% of the current WWE Roster. The WWE keeps trying to shove horrible stereotypical black gimmicks on him, and it simply won't work.

These guys were so over as Team Angle with Angle as the mouth piece. People took them seriously right away, and they didn't need all of the flashy shit. This shows how much the WWE has devolved in the last 4 years in terms of crappy 80's gimmick wrestling.

Benjamin and Haas will get main event pushes one day, but unfortunately for them, it won't be in the WWE.

 

[kieran_devlin]

I hope they dont get split as they are a good team but im not hopefull as with most great wwe talent they just misuse them because they rely to much on the guys that sell, like meat head batista and Lashley.

When people give guys like Benjamin, Hass, Chavo, helmz, Noble, Brian Kendrick and Paul london no reaction they decide not to push them but its WWEs fault because its them that by not taking a chance and using them better for example pushes and letting them do moves giving them promos ect thats makinmg them get no reaction

Its a circle of doom and unless WWE decides to try and do something these guys will get doomed, look at it now there is no actual tag division in the wwe but yet there is anough teams to start a small division.

And they burrry the cruiser division

Both Hass and Benjamin have the skills in ring all they need is the time to develope promo skills and give them feuds that can work for them and showcase their talents, they would certainly make good WWE tag and World Tag champs.

Its a matter of time that WWE will decide to either use the talent they have, let them do all the moves and showcase their talents or sack them and job them!

 

[jback]

I think they probably should get the push. Both are so talented in the ring that it seems like a waste to throw them away. They don't have loads or charisma or mic talent but could be solved with a manger or with a leader in a stable. They were over when Angle was their leader so y not put them with a good stronger like Randy Orton. They could be a great heel stable along with maybe Carlito. They are to talented to be thrown away. Another idea would be to ship Shelton to Smackdown giving him a better chance at making main event status and have Haas go to ECW to try and get him over.

 

[E C Dub]

I wish they would get a push.. Turn them into big heels and have them screw over a bunch of faces or something.. Doesn't look good after jobbing to Hacksaw and super crazy in a monday dark match

 

[Dgenerationx528]

I feel that the World's Greatest Tag Team are the second best tag team on the Raw roster behind Paul London and Brian Kendrick so yes, I think they should get a tag team championship push. Possibly at Cyber Sunday, Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch will defend against the fans choice of London/Kendrick, the Highlanders or the WGTT.

 

[Rated R Superstar95]

I think WWE should fire Haas, and give Shelton the push for the Intercontinental Belt. That would make the belt alot more intresting than no one.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Right now, and within the next few weeks, our tag team title picture on Raw will be:

Faces - Londrick, Rhodes/Holly
Heels - Highlanders, Cade/Murdoch, WGTT

Now, there are a few factors here...
1. When Kennedy moves up to the WWE title picture, that opens a spot for Carlito to fill, feuding with Jeff Hardy.
2. With Carlito as the main IC heel, that will probably take Shelton's spot.

So, if you aren't planning on giving Shelton a push, give WGTT the titles to feud with Londrick & Holly/Rodes. Since Cade and Murdoch aren't over and nobody really likes them, AND we can all agree that Cade is leagues ahead of Murdoch, why not use the Highlanders as the secondary heel tag team and split up Cade/Murdoch? Cade can be placed in the middle of the midcard reign for IC, whereas Murdoch will hopefully be fired, moved down to jobber, or moved over to ECW/Smackdown.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

Shelton and charlie are the best in the business in regards to skill, they need to step up on the mic work, but charlie himself needs to work more on telling a story, push shelton and send charlie back to ovw

 

[Xtreme Impact]

Im not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet, but Super Crazy and Jim Duggan beat WGTT on Heat this week. I think its a shame that WWE put fun babyfaces over pure athletes, so they should either turn WGTT face and push them or move them to Smackdown.

 

[Snake]

Ive always looked at the WGTT as a top team but have felt Haas was 2nd fiddle to Shelton.

Shelton has the potential to be the high middle carder, or even title material for things like the Royal Rumble, when most of the top people are in the Rumble.

Haas could do with another team potentially. Or just get rid.

 

[hbk&triple h]

I think it is pretty oathetic how they havent gotten a huge push as single's wrestlers or a tag team.

Shetlon and Haas have more wrestling talent than most of the roster. I would say they can outwrestle anyone.

Shelton has proved his ablities time and time again.He has proven he has the skills in both wrestling matches and gimmick matches.Haas has proved that he is a great technical wrestler.

The WWE just sees this as they don't have the top superstar look.

Personally, as a huge fan I think more people would buy into great wrestlers rather that John Cena type of wrestlers as their champion.

They should definelty get a push.

 

[Player_1]

I agree. I am a fan of Benjamin all the way through. The guy has the skills, the talent, and the charisma if he is booked right. I am not too big on Haas, but you never know. I hope Benjamin gets a push sometime soon.

By the way

Nice signature

 

[Eternal Dragon]

I think it is pretty oathetic how they havent gotten a huge push as single's wrestlers or a tag team.

Shetlon and Haas have more wrestling talent than most of the roster. I would say they can outwrestle anyone.

Shelton has proved his ablities time and time again.He has proven he has the skills in both wrestling matches and gimmick matches.Haas has proved that he is a great technical wrestler.

The WWE just sees this as they don't have the top superstar look.

Personally, as a huge fan I think more people would buy into great wrestlers rather that John Cena type of wrestlers as their champion.

They should definelty get a push.

Shelton and Haas have in-ring wrestling talent, but that's not the only thing that can make a wrestler. And seeing as they're both heels, I doubt more people would buy into them than John Cena.

I don't think we can blame the WWE on this. Haas just doesn't really have "it" in my opinion. He's very dull. And Shelton- he's gotten monster pushes in the past. There has to be something missing for them to be not as successful as everyone wants them to be.

Flames Out
Dragon

 

[hbk&triple h]

By the way

Nice signature

Thank you.

The WWE seems to put the most talented and entertaining wrestlers to waste. It is like they don't want us to get what we want.

Shelton is in my honest opinion the most talented person on the roster as of now. No arguements needed. His ladder matches are exceptional. And his match with Shawn Michaels on Raw is probably one of the best T.V. matches I've ever watched.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=809358

 

[KyleCobra]

I see Benjamin being able to get over on talent alone without a ''im being buried cuz im black'' gimmick. His in ring work spoke for itself and he was way over with his first couple months on Raw, so i know it can be done.

Hass on the other hand is a different story. The best idea i have heard so far is to give him something along the lines of Angles gimmick in ECW as the wrestling machine. He would however need to learn the trait of aggression or tit would fall flat on its ass. With a gimmick like this, he would actually be able to generate heat and stil be alloweed to show of his in ring talent.