Should Randy Orton Retire?

[The Dragon Saga]

Randy Orton should in no way, shape or form consider retiring. He has one of the most credible and consistently building legacies in the WWE. Randy has a character and he plays it very well, a quiet, callous person who it portrayed as a "predator", I don't think people really get this but it means more than you'd initially assume. Not only this, but for those who bring up how he is "boring" and "dull", congratulations on giving the reaction the guy is attempting to get. You think he doesn't know his character is "boring", go watch his documentary DVD and you'll see very clearly that Randy has a great personality, it is a simple fact he grew out of that as a character on television because so many people act the same way.

From an in-ring perspective, right now in the WWE very few touch the smooth level on-which Randy Orton performs. The guy is a natural and constantly showcases some of the best matches, you can see this near constantly. The dude matches with Christian were exceptional and Orton showed that he is a very good wrestler to the odd few who attempt to discourage his abilities. Not only this but Orton has the guts to perform at the speed and intensity in-which he does despite having hypermobile shoulders, which is a credit to the guy himself.

Best way to describe Randy Orton as a Superstar, is take a look at Wade Barrett. Barrett gained more off of "putting Orton on the shelf" than we'll ever no, considering it was a widely known fact Money in the Bank was supposed to happen last night, but due to Barrett's injury it didn't, because WWE wanted to give him the briefcase. Orton can be used to get people over so easily because he has such an intimidating aura surrounding him and in-truth it is a pretty unique one.

In closing, Randy Orton doesn't need nor shouldn't retire. The guy could perform at half the level he does now and he'd still be putting on good matches. No, he isn't a guy who plays a character bursting with charisma, but that isn't what he wants to do or is supposed to do, he plays a different character because so many portray a cocky, generic one, Orton portrays a cold, callous individual who can become downright sadistic when need be and still be seen as a face.

Orton doesn't need to retire in any sense of the word, that is all.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Are you sure this is supposed to be a serious thread?

I can't think of 1 good reason why Orton should retire. The guy still has a decade of full time work left in him, is one of the best workers in WWE (if not the best), is probably the most over guy in WWE next to Cena, does well with anyone he feuds and still looks good. I think you and I are watching 2 completely different Orton's.

I don't see how he's phoning it in or that he's over it. Sure he's had some injuries but he doesn't seem to be in any kind of shape that would suggest he should retire. Sure he's had concussions and some other injuries but he is always ready to go when he's healthy and last night he put on a good match with Kane (once again we must be watching different Orton's).

Although I understand what you said I don't agree with one word of it, Orton is gonna stay a top guy for years to come and he should be a top guy for years to come, the guy is fantastic and has a great look, definitely has all the tools to be something extraordinary if he isn't already there. Orton's the man and unless he doesn't want to wrestle anymore I would stick with it.

 

[#hamler]

Moron.

Randy Orton is beyond one of the single best talents within the WWE's currently active roster; top three at least. He possesses the ability to make just about every other guy on the roster look good in any match type involving any stipulation. He's over and has remained consistently over for the last three years. When there's someone within the WWE who you want to get over, you pair them up in a feud with Randy Orton in hoping to get that Superstar over. Randy Orton for that period of time, gets that superstar over. There are very few others who are capable of doing that.

Earlier in the thread, I read that he needs an extended break so other new stars can be built - total bullshit. Reason being, you cannot build new stars without having them go over someone like Orton. Orton is Smackdown's measuring stick and the only wrestler that's come even close to touching him is the current World Champion, Sheamus. Orton’s year last year proves how well he works when he's not being constantly over shadowed by John Cena. He's managed to put over a handful of talent which includes Christian, Wade Barrett, Cody Rhodes and will likely do wonders for Kane once their feud ends. Each one of these superstars are lucky to be in a feud with such a high profile Superstar like Orton.

There is no reason Orton should hang up his boots; especially given that there are still a substantial amount of talent that could use him as a stepping stone. Ask anyone on the roster. Ask them what top star they would love to feud with; someone who'll make them look great in the process. If their answer isn't John Cena, it'll likely be Randy Orton. Why, because he's consistent in everything he does and probably the most well rounded athlete the WWE has to offer. He's over. Once others can get to that level and get 100% into their characters enough to get over like Randy, then we'll talk retirement. Until then, he’s welcomed to be featured prominently on my television screen.

 

[newteenforbb]

Moron.

Randy Orton is beyond one of the single best talents within the WWE's currently active roster; top three at least. He possesses the ability to make just about every other guy on the roster look good in any match type involving any stipulation. He's over and has remained consistently over for the last three years. When there's someone within the WWE who you want to get over, you pair them up in a feud with Randy Orton in hoping to get that Superstar over. Randy Orton for that period of time, gets that superstar over. There are very few others who are capable of doing that.

Earlier in the thread, I read that he needs an extended break so other new stars can be built - total bullshit. Reason being, you cannot build new stars without having them go over someone like Orton. Orton is Smackdown's measuring stick and the only wrestler that's come even close to touching him is the current World Champion, Sheamus. Orton’s year last year proves how well he works when he's not being constantly over shadowed by John Cena. He's managed to put over a handful of talent which includes Christian, Wade Barrett, Cody Rhodes and will likely do wonders for Kane once their feud ends. Each one of these superstars are lucky to be in a feud with such a high profile Superstar like Orton.

There is no reason Orton should hang up his boots; especially given that there are still a substantial amount of talent that could use him as a stepping stone. Ask anyone on the roster. Ask them what top star they would love to feud with; someone who'll make them look great in the process. If their answer isn't John Cena, it'll likely be Randy Orton. Why, because he's consistent in everything he does and probably the most well rounded athlete the WWE has to offer. He's over. Once others can get to that level and get 100% into their characters enough to get over like Randy, then we'll talk retirement. Until then, he’s welcomed to be featured prominently on my television screen.

So, you basically agree that he should be used as a stepping stone for younger talent? In so many words that you used, you echoed the poster who said he should be a "jobber to the stars." I mean, you took the long way to get there but that's pretty much what you are saying. And I agree.

 

[#hamler]

So, you basically agree that he should be used as a stepping stone for younger talent? In so many words that you used, you echoed the poster who said he should be a "jobber to the stars." I mean, you took the long way to get there but that's pretty much what you are saying. And I agree.

When you have someone as credible and over as Orton, you should definitely use them to get others over. But why, in anyway, does that mean he needs to retire? Or never win another World Championship? Because in my book, if you're over and credible at the same time, you should definitely be used; used in the single best way possible. If that means he ends up becoming a fifteen time World Champion to help get some younger guys over, so be it. But why retire?

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

*Note- This is a serious thread. I am not trolling or spamming. This isn't an attempt to just bash Randy Orton. And it isn't a thread created to cause problems. I am only giving an opinion and seeing where others stand.

I think for the sake of both the WWE and his own career (which includes his legacy), Randy Orton should walk away from professional wrestling for good. I say this after giving it a whole lot of thought.

The man is 32 and while that should give him a good decade left to go, he already seems to be "over" it. He looks to be phoning it in and appears to be done with the business. His matches have become almost impossible to watch without causing a need to go to sleep (for the viewer). Obviously, his mic work will never improve. He is no longer able to carry feuds or even remotely engage in one that involves any spirit or emotion.

In terms of the physical, he has way too many injuries and concussions and that should come into play as well. He also no longer looks like a wrestler. In other words, it looks as though he is letting himself go and couldn't care less. And I believe the WWE higher ups are taking notice.

They no longer feel the need to place him in big feuds, and they consistently book him to lose (cleanly at that- no protection like they do when they want someone to lose but come out looking strong).

With all of that said, do you guys agree that it is time that he says goodbye for good?

Here's a thought rather than retiring, turn him back heel. He's always been a better heel than face. And with Sheamus's star rising so far so quickly there's no time like the present to turn Orton. Have him embrace the hate.

If the rumors of Cena's neck are true (it being in the same condition as Edge and Austins) prior to them leaving, then Cena's only got a couple of years left in his tank. Orton is 2nd in line in the WWE, he's also currently signed on the longest contract in the company (ending sometime in 2017 or 2019) As long as he can stay healthy he will continue to entertain.

The issue with Orton now is that he's a main event level star, without a main event level feud. Kane is just filler. Rhodes was filler. The other issue is that Orton isn't in the title picture, and if he was all of you would be bitching about that. He's already a 9 time World Champion. So if he was still involved in a main event feud for the title you would all be bitching that he's had the title too many times. With another 7 or so years left on his contract wrestling full time Orton could win the title dozens of times, and you would all bitch about that.

I wont go into deep details about how hes a better wrestler than 95% of the roster, or how even though his mic work isn't the best, its still better than 95% of the rest of the roster. Or how when he's given the right person to feud with, his feuds are great. Rhodes, Triple H, Cena, Barrett, Christian, ya know just to name a few....

Orton's not going anywhere anytime soon

 

[JR's Cliches]

Originally Posted by newteenforbb
*Note- This is a serious thread. I am not trolling or spamming. This isn't an attempt to just bash Randy Orton. And it isn't a thread created to cause problems. I am only giving an opinion and seeing where others stand.

You started off acting like somebody who had a relevant point, however all of your subsequent posts have shown you to be nothing more than a dumpy, little troll. Move on fanboy, I'm sure there is plenty of good you can do in CenaNation.

 

[MissLeigh80]

No there is no reason why Randy Orton will be retiring anytime soon; he is one of my absolute favorite wrestlers right now in the WWE and I wouldn't be a happy girl if he left but I don't see him going anywhere.

 

[newteenforbb]

You know what, this thread has a few people who seem to be pro-Orton and share a different opinion than me but please try and look at the WWE today and see where I am coming from.

WWE fans are moving towards the like of Ryder, Sheamus, Bryan, etc.. The younger initiative the WWE has tried to pull off for a while now is finally working. The fans are approving. And then you have the big guns like Cena, Rock, Brock and they represent the veterans that the fans still love.

Point blank- Orton doesn't fit anymore. He doesn't fit with the younger crew even though he is 32. And he doesn't fit with the veterans because he isn't as over as them. Come on. There is a reason WWE creative has booked Orton in 3 crap feuds for the last 3 Manias. It is because he doesn't draw. Not when it counts.

So, if the dude can't draw with the younger crowd and he definitely can't with the veterans, what's left?

His time is over. WWE is forging ahead and Orton is, and deserving so, left in the dust.

WWE in 2012-2013 IS going to be all about the younger talent PLUS the really OVER veteran superstars. It will be a phenomenal year with Rock, Brock, Cena, Punk, Jericho, Sheamus, Del Rio, Ryder, Miz... heck, even Cody, Ted, Drew, Wade... I could go on.

Orton doesn't fit anymore. His time- over.

 

[destruct-o-tron]

You are out of your mind.

Orton is easily one of the most bankable superstars in the WWE.

The last couple months may have been sort of lackluster, but that's because of other people's injuries, and is not at all indicative of his future.

As of about a month ago, he didn't have a match for Wrestlemania. Cue a random attack from Kane. Instant rivalry. That's not much to work with. But they made it entertaining. That tells me 2 things: Both of the entertainers involved are great at what they do; and the WWE has tremendous faith in both of them.

I mean, if Orton got drafted to "Team Teddy" or "Team Laurenitis" or something, then I'd be concerned. But since they went out of their way to cobble together a rivalry, just to give the guy a match at Wrestlemania, he's got nothing to worry about.

Furthermore, considering the WWE seems to be getting the message, and respecting that the fans are getting kind of tired of seeing so much Cena, this may be "his time". It appears the WWE wants to spotlight other superstars, and this appears to be exactly what the fans want to see. You'd be crazy if you didn't see how this would mean guys like Orton and Punk get a lot more attention.

 

[WF_APEX]

Newteenforbb I'm sorry but your thread topic is idiotic (I will get to why in a minute), anyone who agrees with you is obviously an Orton hater and how you can think the majority of people agree with you is puzzling...have you not read all of the replies?

Orton SHOULD NOT RETIRE, he could do with a kayfabe hiatus for 2-3 months but be back in time for Summerslam to possibly build up for a mega WM29 feud.
Orton is far too young to retire, he is also far too good also.
How you can think he looks like he doesn't care is beyond Me and how people can say he always does the same 5 moves, then YES his 5 moves of doom could do with a mix-up - bring back the methodical hellish stamps onto various body parts - but he's also added a couple of new moves such as the top rope superplex we've witnessed a fair bit recently and the powerbomb drop move.

Please think carefully before you start any future threads.

 

[BigC]

They need to take Orton away from the old "Good Guy, Baby face" image and return him to what he does best, Heel. Kicking ass and showing no remorse for it. The current run he is on is stale, boring and going nowhere at all, at anytime.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Yes. A man in the absolute prime of his career should retire. He should immediately stop being the second or third most over wrestler on the planet. He should stop making money. He should go home because some IWC idiot thinks he isn't any good.

This easily makes the top five in terms of dumbest threads I've seen.

I'd go in a long rant on why he should stay, but that's unnecessary. Why is that unnecessary? Because any normal human being with a shred of common sense can understand why Randy Orton belongs in the wrestling business right now.

 

[newteenforbb]

Those of you who disagree are clearly not seeing the general shift away from Orton that the WWE has been working on for quite a while now. It would be wise to just accept the fact that his time has come and gone.

The company has too many guys right now who are over and who the fans are demanding to see. And I'm talking both veterans and newer guys.

It is NO coincidence that Orton wasn't used at all on RAW last night. I mean, he competed in a dark match post-RAW, yet wasn't used at all on the live telecast. That says a lot. You have a "TOP GUY" and yet he only appears once the cameras stop rolling. LOL.

And now, he has been fired from the film he was scheduled to be in. WWE is smart. They see the shift in business and Orton is old news.

 

[Davi323]

Those of you who disagree are clearly not seeing the general shift away from Orton that the WWE has been working on for quite a while now. It would be wise to just accept the fact that his time has come and gone.

The company has too many guys right now who are over and who the fans are demanding to see. And I'm talking both veterans and newer guys.

It is NO coincidence that Orton wasn't used at all on RAW last night. I mean, he competed in a dark match post-RAW, yet wasn't used at all on the live telecast. That says a lot. You have a "TOP GUY" and yet he only appears once the cameras stop rolling. LOL.

And now, he has been fired from the film he was scheduled to be in. WWE is smart. They see the shift in business and Orton is old news.

Randy Orton is a member of Smackdown. As such, while he does appear on Raw occasionally, it's not a weekly guarantee. Further, for however the hell long Smackdown has been on, the Undertaker didn't appear on Raw very often...because he was a Smackdown wrestler. Does that mean he wasn't one of their top guys?

Sorry, but you are just being idiotic. Other ridiculous retirement logic:

-John Cena just got destroyed by a guy that hasn't been a professional wrestler in years, a day after losing to another guy that hasn't been a professional wrestler in years. He should retire.

-Daniel Bryan, who was the WHC 2 days ago, was only shown briefly. He should retire.

-Cody Rhodes was embarrassed by the Big Show again. He should retire.

-Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger lost to Santino. They should both retire.

-Sheamus is too pale. He should retire.

-Zack Ryder isn't over enough with the fans. He should retire.

-Mark Henry's eyebrows disturb me. He should retire.

-CM Punk got drunk on tea that was in a sugar bottle that broke prematurely. He should retire.

-Chris Jericho isn't smart enough to not break a sugar bottle when he is supposed to. He should retire.

 

[HEELKris]

''Every superstar has an evolution'' - Randy Orton

That's funny because I haven't seen any ''evolution'' in Randy Orton. He SUCKS on the mic and when it comes to in-ring work, he's average at best. He's not a draw, that's for sure. Maybe OP is right, maybe Orton should just go away.

 

[#1Dobz92]

Absolutely not. Orton imo is the best wrestler WWE has. He's the best guy to wrestle big guys as well as small guys while managing to maintain his style. At 32 he also has a ton of time left in him. Right now he's putting people over, doing the right thing for business. And as a result he will help create a good few future main event stars. I will say though he could afford to take a few months (maybe a year or 2) out of WWE if he feels the schedule's getting to him. That's a hell of a luxury to have tbh.

 

[newteenforbb]

''Every superstar has an evolution'' - Randy Orton

That's funny because I haven't seen any ''evolution'' in Randy Orton. He SUCKS on the mic and when it comes to in-ring work, he's average at best. He's not a draw, that's for sure. Maybe OP is right, maybe Orton should just go away.

Haha, right? That quote is pretty funny. So, his evolution has basically gone from... being a below average newcomer to jerk behind the scenes to still below average main eventer to a bigger jerk behind the scenes to stale and still below average.

Great evolution there!

 

[newteenforbb]

All I can say is Ortan's a bad technical wrestler.

Almost as bad as Batista.

Should he retire? No. WWE can still work with him.

Batista is actually solid as compared. He moves so well for a big man. Orton is just a disaster in the ring.

I dare anyone who reads this to come up with 6 ...no, 5 actually... 5 Orton matches that they would consider "high quality"...

And by quality, I mean universally regarded as close to ***** matches.

 

[Maximus9000]

Orton needs to go back to being a heel, which he excelled at, so much so that I put him up there with HHH. He is far more use as a heel - at the very least, he can put guys over and generate lots of heat.

 

[WF_APEX]

All is banging on about Orton being a jerk backstage is old hat and happened a long time ago.
Cena even says in the Orton DVD that Randy has changed for the better. Punk said so in a radio interview. HHH,Sheamus, Cody & Ted all said how much they respect him and how he's a backstage go to guy.

The original thread starter is just an antagonist trying to wind up Orton fans.

Watch The Evolution of a Predator and then start a new thread about how wrong you were.

 

[HEELKris]

Cena even says in the Orton DVD that Randy has changed for the better. Punk said so in a radio interview. HHH,Sheamus, Cody & Ted all said how much they respect him and how he's a backstage go to guy.

Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase and Randy Orton are close friends in real life.
HHH is a huge backstage politician, he wants to make Orton look like a good guy or something. As for Sheamus, well, he's HHH's buddy... Nuff said, lmao.
Punk? Who cares about Punk? LOL
Cena is the face of RAW (and the whole WWE) while Orton is supposed to be the face of SmackDown... The Orton DVD was a WWE DVD. See my point? The WWE made their biggest superstar praise Orton in order to make him look good.

No offense, but you are very gullible.

Randy Orton was, is and always will be an a**hole.

 

[Defekt]

Unless he is seriously tired of the traveling and the wrestler lifestyle, Randy Orton would be a complete idiot to walk away from a multi-million dollar contract to retire at 32.

 

[flawd101]

I think orton losing recently means their will be a change to his character. he is so over with the crowd it wont change much but i think they are knocking him down to build him back up. this is the kind of thread wwe would post on their website before giving him a push.