Should Randy Orton Retire?

[aFTeRLiFe]

*Note- This is a serious thread. I am not trolling or spamming. This isn't an attempt to just bash Randy Orton. And it isn't a thread created to cause problems. I am only giving an opinion and seeing where others stand.

I think for the sake of both the WWE and his own career (which includes his legacy), Randy Orton should walk away from professional wrestling for good. I say this after giving it a whole lot of thought.

The man is 32 and while that should give him a good decade left to go, he already seems to be "over" it. He looks to be phoning it in and appears to be done with the business. His matches have become almost impossible to watch without causing a need to go to sleep (for the viewer). Obviously, his mic work will never improve. He is no longer able to carry feuds or even remotely engage in one that involves any spirit or emotion.

In terms of the physical, he has way too many injuries and concussions and that should come into play as well. He also no longer looks like a wrestler. In other words, it looks as though he is letting himself go and couldn't care less. And I believe the WWE higher ups are taking notice.

They no longer feel the need to place him in big feuds, and they consistently book him to lose (cleanly at that- no protection like they do when they want someone to lose but come out looking strong).

With all of that said, do you guys agree that it is time that he says goodbye for good?

No, he should not say good bye for good. You're a pathetic loser and obviously a hater. It's fine to have your own opinion but when you go and say the guy doesn't care anymore when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about then that's where I come in and call you a moron.

He is very good, I am a Cena fan and I must say Orton is much better than John Cena... Like someone else said - if he was booked to win constantly then we would have everyone calling him stale and need a change like they are doing with Cena. He loses a few and now you bash him for sucking and needs to quit. Always going to be a lose - lose situation because of people like yourself. Take your frustration out on the WWE not Orton's character. He is just doing his job.

 

[whoopin' ass]

I could accept a year without Orton if it means he comes back learning how to (a) talk (b) wrestle (c) build a feud and (d) if he actually looks like he gives a flying hoot about the business.

If retiring is too much to ask for and too unrealistic, then yes, a year off sounds amazing.

he is okay on the mic and in the ring. i personally don`t care for his style on the mic but he is better than a lot of guys out there(Bret Hart wasn`t the greatest on the mic either and I am a Hitman mark). and his standing drop kick is impressive. as for build a feud, that`s creative`s department not his. the give a hoot part, again i think it is boredom. i think a lot of guys there, not just Orton, would benefit from extended time off. think of when Austin was gone for that year. Rock, Mankind and Triple H all had to step it up. Imagine the wwe without Orton and Cena for a year. have guys like Punk and Jericho lead the wrestlers and finally give guys like Kofi, R-Truth and others the ball. They have so many former champs - Miz, Swagger, Del Rio, Christian - that could be used, i bet no one would miss Orton and Cena for that year but when they got back, they would be fresh and people would get excited again.

 

[JJ15776]

Look, don't get me wrong. Randy Orton is bland in the ring(it always amazes me that people criticize Cena without mentioning that he's twice as good a wrestler as Orton) and sleep-inducing on the mic. I mean, I've literally fallen asleep during multiple Randy Orton promos. No joke!

But why would he retire? As distinctly average as he is, he's good at playing his character(giving a guy with a complete inability to act or show emotion a gimmick where he doesn't need to act or show emotion was genius), and he can make a great jobber to the stars for a few more years at least.

 

[RkoMachine]

As a response to those claiming this thread is a direct influence of the match result at Mania tonight- no. This has been something I have thought for quite a while and the reasons I listed go above and beyond a single match tonight on PPV.

And it is cool to see the majority on here agree with me thus far. Perhaps Vince and co. will see it the same way.

with all due respect the majority agreeing with you does not matter my simple minded friend! and i will repeat the words "simple minded" because that is what you are! Bash me all you want! hell im only a random poster anyway! what do i know right?! what i do know is this! Randy Orton is part of WWE's future and he isnt going anywhere anytime soon! you say you are not a "troll" or an "Orton basher" but you have to be one of those! since October that man has been putting people over and losing cleanly! what do you see wrong with that and why should he hang up his boots? Do you even watch wrestling pal? Because i am almost certain that you have missed what Randy has done for the company this past year! He still has a long time left! Deal with it! Or find something else to watch!

 

[keegamer80]

I don't think Randy should retire. I have been a loyal wwe fan since 1984. So this is hard for me to say. Perhaps a tna run would be good for him? Or even an extended break. I have tried to get behind him. I started to get behind him during the end of his heel run. Then he became face. Hey even a heel turn might be the next step.

 

[newteenforbb]

Look, don't get me wrong. Randy Orton is bland in the ring(it always amazes me that people criticize Cena without mentioning that he's twice as good a wrestler as Orton) and sleep-inducing on the mic. I mean, I've literally fallen asleep during multiple Randy Orton promos. No joke!

But why would he retire? As distinctly average as he is, he's good at playing his character(giving a guy with a complete inability to act or show emotion a gimmick where he doesn't need to act or show emotion was genius), and he can make a great jobber to the stars for a few more years at least.

That's a pretty great idea. Since the WWE Universe for some odd reason still cheers him, WWE should capitalize on that by having him job to both veterans and young guys and just put them over. And once the audience catches on hat he sucks and the cheers die down, then you can basically put him out to pasture. That way, you get the good use out of him while the audience is still feeling him. Not a bad suggestion at all.

 

[Azane]

I guess it's time for the IWC's annonymous poster to stop making Cena should retire threads and bash Orton now.

sorry, Orton draws more in a night than you make in your lifetime, he's still entertaining, he's still got "IT" and he's still one of the top dogs.

His moveset is getting stale, but he'll evolve soon enough, wrestlers tend to do that when they get stale. He's not a cruiserweight, and he's not a super heavyweight, so you won't see him doing moonsaults or powerbombing Paul Wight, but the style he has, the psychology and the story telling that he does during a match are masterful. You're missing a lot of his ring work if you're judging heavily based on simply moves.

Also;
If you have to put a disclaimer that you're not trolling in your post, your unpopular opinion is probably going to be weak.

 

[Riddler]

Orton gets more concussions then Sidney Crosby and Eric Lindros combined. I am scared for his health, heaven help him if he pulls a Benoit. On the topic of scary health situations in the WWE has anyone noticed how much weight Bre Bella has dropped lately?

 

[drobs85]

I wouldn't necessarily say retire, but he does need to take a while off. He seems really bored with it. He's also been botching/ no selling moves for a good while now. He's stale. He just needs to re invent himself.

 

[Attitude Era Junkie]

*Note- This is a serious thread. I am not trolling or spamming. This isn't an attempt to just bash Randy Orton. And it isn't a thread created to cause problems. I am only giving an opinion and seeing where others stand.

I think for the sake of both the WWE and his own career (which includes his legacy), Randy Orton should walk away from professional wrestling for good. I say this after giving it a whole lot of thought.

The man is 32 and while that should give him a good decade left to go, he already seems to be "over" it. He looks to be phoning it in and appears to be done with the business. His matches have become almost impossible to watch without causing a need to go to sleep (for the viewer). Obviously, his mic work will never improve. He is no longer able to carry feuds or even remotely engage in one that involves any spirit or emotion.

In terms of the physical, he has way too many injuries and concussions and that should come into play as well. He also no longer looks like a wrestler. In other words, it looks as though he is letting himself go and couldn't care less. And I believe the WWE higher ups are taking notice.

They no longer feel the need to place him in big feuds, and they consistently book him to lose (cleanly at that- no protection like they do when they want someone to lose but come out looking strong).

With all of that said, do you guys agree that it is time that he says goodbye for good?

I will get a message sent to me telling me that I am breaking the rules...again since i am not adding anything but I just want to say how stupid this thread is. If you have a problem with Orton then stop watching wrestling. Quit complaining and just leave. Quit overthinking things. Orton may not be great on the mic but he is still fun to watch in the ring. Quit being a Debbie Downer and just be happy wrestling is still around. Quit bitching and enjoy.

 

[Riddler]

I have never understood the people that hate Orton's mic work. I am a successful writer, and have a modest career as an actor. I LOVE Ortons mic work in a lot of his better feuds. You don't have to talk fast, joke around or lace it with profanity, what he dose is subtle and realistic, his character is not a comic book super hero, her is a villain who is smart calculating and crafty. he is easily one of the best CHARACTERS they have ever had. Less is more.

 

[Attitude Era Junkie]

He's not a villain, he is the Cena of Smackdown and his promo's aren't like by fans because they don't seem real. Punk can make a promo seem real. Orton can't.

 

[sjdigitall]

Randy Retire? Hell no , he is a massive draw. But he definitely needs a major storyline and a major character change. His viper gimmick has led to a catch 22 situation in his career right now. It has helped him to become really over as a face, but it has made his feuds, storylines and matches boring. Orton needs to evolve his character, change it up. Im probably gona get alot of crap for even suggesting it but having Orton & Cena turn heel, start a group with maybe one more up and comer (Ziggler, Miz) would be a cool idea for a group with Orton channelling alot of the cockiness during his early years. Would be a cool way for both of them to try something new while simultaneously getting a young guy more over.

 

[OrtonFanSRK]

Eh, Randy Orton does not 'suck' in the ring. He has one of the most interesting move sets out of all the Superstars, and yes, his voice may seem a little 'monotonous' but that is why he rarely comes out to speak. He only ever does when he is annoyed about something going on! Have you heard the cheer he gets? It's certainly louder than John Cena's! I for one have no disrespect for John, but all this ^ utter nonsense about Randy Orton and should he retire is just a plain NO! Why should he retire? because he did not beat Kane last night at Wrestlemania? big whoop! You win or you lose, the script writers for the WWE have something planned for him behind his loss. That's like saying John Cena should retire after all the hype he has given about him 'beating the Rock' and looked what happened! Ass got kicked!

I mean, you don't necessarily HAVE to be a fan of The Apex Predator, it's not a 'must-be' trend, but have a little respect for the many people that are fans of him.. They surely don't want to see him retire just yet, and I certainly don't. I find him interesting, breath-taking to watch, and I absolutely adore him!
As I said before, I do not disrespect John Cena, and it was not mature for me to say about him losing to The Rock, but it was just a mere example. So I am done here.

Have a nice day!

 

[a7xfan93]

You think The Apex Predator, The Viper Randy Orton should retire? One question, WHY? He is doing amazing in the ring, and he is still in his prime. He is one of the best we have in the company, and one of the only few good people on smackdown. I bet you this is what happened. You watched the Orton vs. Kane match last night at Wrestlemania. You saw him lose, and said to your self "it's time for orton to hang up the boots". Newsflash: Everyone loses, but that doesn't mean they need to retire.

 

[Miz_Mark]

As a response to those claiming this thread is a direct influence of the match result at Mania tonight- no. This has been something I have thought for quite a while and the reasons I listed go above and beyond a single match tonight on PPV.

And it is cool to see the majority on here agree with me thus far. Perhaps Vince and co. will see it the same way.

At the time of this comment, 6 of the 9 replies to your OP adamantly DISagreed with you. So it appears your math skills are on par with your reasoning abilities.

Randy Orton retire? Absurd. He's in the prime of his career, he's young, he's healthy, he can and does put on great matches on a regular basis, he's hugely over with the fans. Patently absurd to suggest he retire

 

[mdj2010]

Yet another thread that proves that people just don't get 'it'.

Randy is an exceptional in ring talent and a genjuine draw. Don;t bring his moveset into it or particular feuds. The guy is money and continues to be so.

The wrestling industry moves too fast nowadays and guys like Orton get old before they have even begun (in the minds of today's wrestling fanbase, anyway) - however, he is asteady hand and already an in-ring general at a tender age.

The fact that you don;t enjoy him means next to nothing. He continues to get fantastic pops at live shows every damn night and just becauuse he is next on the hit list of the IWC bandwagon, doesn;t mean a thing in the eyes of those who understand what the business is now and has always been about - MONEY!

 

[Infinity]

I think it's time you retire from making threads.

This. ^


Orton and Kane did a good job last night especially considering they had to draw the crowd back in since they were upset with the World Title Match, Bryan vs Sheamus. For the time they were given for the match, they did a really good job.

& Orton is the unspoken glue that is keeping Smackdown together. He has had two great feuds in the past year that spanned months and did a good job putting his opponents owner. Unfortunately, and ironically, both wrestlers suffered serious injuries soon after the feud ending; Christian & Wade Barrett.

Randy Orton finally made Christian a credible Main Eventer and then gave Wade Barrett the most legitimacy as a Main Event caliber heel than anybody else had. They protected Daniel Bryan by not making Orton feud with him... and in turn they protected Randy Orton as well. They'd rather let Daniel Bryan go over Big Show and Mark Henry than Randy Orton.

Obviously the WWE and Vince understands the importance of Orton to that brand. You can put the strap on him at any point without a problem, but he's so good that he doesn't need the strap to be over.... & he's probably the only person on SD! you can say that about.

 

[Yesiamaduck]

Not retire, but considering his recent injuries and lack of a place in the WWE's main event at the moment I think he should hang low for a few months until the building months of Summerslam so he can resume his feud with Wade Barrett. Give Barrett some steam when Orton isn't around letting him get some convincing wins then reintroduce Orton after a lengthy break.

 

[WolfNyte]

You know some people just dont get his character the character of Randy Orton is methodical tactical searching for your weakness and then striking with evil intent.

Lets look at his monotone delivery...its perfect its direct its calculated its done for a reason. It helps to build to the time when he "snaps" in the ring.

in the ring he is calculating every move stalking waiting but then something makes him "snap" and it becomes full on evil intent brutal and full of rage the opposite of Prior to the privious way.

Ortorns character is very very deep sad thing is most dont see it they say oh he is boring on the mic and sluggish in the ring. its all part of the character has no one seen his interviews out of the WWE?

 

[kapone21]

Randal Keith Orton should not retire. Wont retire for more than a decade. He is top 3 in the company He loves his work, grew up in it. VKM and the WWE have a very valuable asset in The Viper, he is in his prime and puts people over. I hear people talking crap about his move set, well the WWE is known for limiting peoples move set,(see Cena as the "Prototype", and Hogan in japan), just a few examples. Orton adapts his whole gimmick, from the move set he uses to the intensity of everything to suit and advance the feud his is currently in.
I do however, feel like he needs time off to recharge. With it being announced the he is starring in "The Marine 3" maybe that time is coming. I see an injury at the hands of Kane in the next PPV or maybe a returning A-Train or Brock. Would set up a good return for the refreshed Viper!

 

[theBec2101]

Dont really understand why you say he should retire. I mean its not his fault for having a rush storline/feud that was boring and really didnt make sense. They just wanted him on the card. The Kane and Orton match wasnt that bad. I've seen way worse. I mean are just mad because Orton lost. I mean he cant wrestle Kane the same as if he would like a swagger, ziggler, Kofi. The match itself will be at a slower pace. I dont know why you would say that he should retire.

 

[keegamer80]

I don't think Randy should retire. I have been a loyal wwe fan since 1984. So this is hard for me to say. Perhaps a tna run would be good for him? Or even an extended break. I have tried to get behind him. I started to get behind him during the end of his heel run. Then he became face. Hey even a heel turn might be the next step.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I almost died laughing when I saw the title of thread. Are you really serious?

Orton is still pretty young and has a lot left in the tank. He's won the Rumble, main evented WM, won multiple titles. He's suffered some injuries that have really held him back but retire now? That's pure insanity.

The main is a bonafide main eventer and will be back in the title picture in no time.


It would have been a good April Fools Day prank for Randy to turn in his retirement papers to the WWE Headquarters, though.

 

[Davi323]

This can be disproved with one simple question. If this week on either Raw or Smackdown, Randy Orton starts up a feud with Sheamus for the World Heavyweight title, would you fully accept Randy Orton as a main event/title challenger or not?

Basically, if Orton would still be seen as a credible threat for the WHC, which I think 99.9% of people would, then clearly he shouldn't retire.