Scared of the "Black" Wrestler?

You truly are an absolute mark, arent you?

Also, for the bolded part, I direct you to the fact that the most money WWE has ever made in a single year was during a year that was entirely based around Triple H.

You act like Booker T never won a fuckin title? He in fact, won that very belt from WM19 in 2006. Just becuase your favorite didnt win at WM19 dont belittle racism by pulling the race card. Come the fuck on.

Ok since you wanna name call and all this. Blacks are pretty much superior athletes in just about every sport and Vince knows this. Thats why you never see them get pushed. He's trying to keep his product white. Those wrestlers arent bad as you make them out to be. R-truth won the most prestigous world title in wrestling history. The NWA world title 2wice. Comes to WWE and is a jobber? Wake the fuck up dude. Booker T 5 time wcw world champion and 7 time tag team champ comes to WWE as a jobber. Booker T was in WCW when they were kicking the shit out of WWF in the ratings with that NWO angle. Guess who was world champ and couldnt carry the company at that time? HBK

Dude Triple H aint never sold as much merchandise as you claim. The Rock and Austin sold the most merchandise. The Rock had to beg Austin to let him finally beat him at Mania. Notice no black man has ever won a world title at a Wrestlemania in WWE History? Booker T wouldve been the first but the racist fucks screwed him over. Triple h had everything given to him on a silver platter hes not great, nothing is great about him. He's an OK heel, but thats about it. Theres nothing fancy about taking steroids, getting carried in just about all your matches and coming to the ring just to spit water in the air.
 
Booker-T Is a Six time world champion, and he was himself. The Rock is also very, very popular even though hes not wrestling until the following wrestlemania. they made The Rock HUGE, if you havent noticed. Devon is a Twenty Three time tag team champion! So what if his brothers are white. Maybe all of the wrestlers that you have hand picked are really being themselves. Jay Lethal is also another young guy that is hungry for stardom.
 
HHH is one of the most overrated wrestlers to be given so much of the spot light. He's nothing but a roided out gorilla that fucks the boss's daughter. What was he before Steph started sucking his little dick?

The only reason HHH gets any credit these days is for the wresters HE WRESTLED, not for his ring performances. Booker T > HHH

If you look at HHH without HBK, he's one of the most boring performers ever in and outside the ring. He's a puppet.
 
Yes. Yes. Yes. I've been waiting on this thread for so long. I totally agree with it. WWE Goes against Black Performers and they think we don't notice. Out of curiosity I looked at the list of all WWE Champions right up to the Miz and believe it or not the only guy on the list is the WWE Legend Yokozuna. He's the only WWE Superstar from a different background to win the title, He wasn't exactly black, he was Japanese but still WWE has never had a Black WWE Champion. It made me wonder has WWE Picked up on this and is R-Truth actuaally going to win the WWE Title? WWE is certainly not giving a Black Superstar the chance. Its not fair...

Like I said it is not an anti black thing..there has never been a British WWE Champion either. It just so happens that the majority of black wrestlers are and were just not good enough to become Champion (same with British and many other "minority superstars") Yeah, there have been a few black wrestlers who probably should have been pushed a bit differently and given title runs but it's a very very short list and again I could say the same about British wrestlers.
 
Like I said it is not an anti black thing..there has never been a British WWE Champion either. It just so happens that the majority of black wrestlers are and were just not good enough to become Champion (same with British and many other "minority superstars") Yeah, there have been a few black wrestlers who probably should have been pushed a bit differently and given title runs but it's a very very short list and again I could say the same about British wrestlers.

OK i can name a few that i dont think are that good. Crime Time is horribe, and Kofi is nothing more than a mid carder, but R-Truth, Shelton, and Booker T got the shitty end of the stick. These guys shouldve won the wwe title atleast 2wice. They are very good talents. Only thing i dont like about truth is him coming to the ring rapping, other than that hes pretty good in the ring. People try to blame him for botching his finisher which isnt True. The people hes doing it on arent selling it very well. Its not like theyre making him job to someone of crediblity. Hes losing all his matches to inferior talent. That dont have much experience.
 
HHH is one of the most overrated wrestlers to be given so much of the spot light. He's nothing but a roided out gorilla that fucks the boss's daughter. What was he before Steph started sucking his little dick?

The only reason HHH gets any credit these days is for the wresters HE WRESTLED, not for his ring performances. Booker T > HHH

If you look at HHH without HBK, he's one of the most boring performers ever in and outside the ring. He's a puppet.

Amen. Preach it man. I was just about to say the same thing. Im still wondering how in the hell did he win the belt more times than Austin and The Rock? That in itself is proof this dude has had everything handed to him. I mean he comes out to the ring spewing out water and flexing the little muscles he has left since he quit the steroids. HOw do i know Triple H took steroids? Look at how big he used to be, look at him now.
 
Amen. Preach it man. I was just about to say the same thing. Im still wondering how in the hell did he win the belt more times than Austin and The Rock? That in itself is proof this dude has had everything handed to him. I mean he comes out to the ring spewing out water and flexing the little muscles he has left since he quit the steroids. HOw do i know Triple H took steroids? Look at how big he used to be, look at him now.

it could have something to do with age also. Yes Triple-H is married to Stephanie Mcmahon, and yes maybe it helped but he is still a good wrestler. Remember he started wrestling in WWE in 1994-95 and is still there to this day, there is no way that if the WWE didn't think he was good he would still be in the WWE.

Anyways on tho the topic, maybe WWE does discriminate against black wrestlers but if the guy/girl isn't good anyways why should he get pushed before another guy/girl whatever his/her ethnicity that has more talent. By the way, R-Truth is getting the same treatment as Christian i.e both are former NWA World Heavyweight Champions and both are getting a chance at a championship reign in WWE at Extream Rules.
 
Bottomline and this sucks. We still live in a racist world. I am a "white boy" from Philly that grew up in a prodominately black neighborhood. Facts are facts. Racism is here and it isnt going anywhere. WWE's product is pushed towards white america more than anything. Don't believe me? Look at the live crowds. You tell me what color folk you see more in the crowd. Now, a lot of that has to do with the fact that maybe there is more white fans than black fans? Maybe. BUT if you have a black wrestler come out and wrestler a white wrestler in an arena filled with black fans, who is going to be the face and who will be the heel? Its just life. The Rock, he is just a special entertainer. Booker T, he was good but white america wasnt gonna make him John Cena. This is a sore subject for me. Mike Vick kills dogs and does two years prison but Big Ben can rape women and not get anything.

Want the real answer? There it is. I am white but I am not oblivious.
Youre absolutely right, they did discriminate against the Rock a little bit. They never let him beat Austin at a wrestlemania until the Rock basically had to beg Austin himself to let him win. WWE doesnt want a black beating a white in a world title match at a wrestlemania.

Booker wouldve been the first African American to win a world title at a Wrestlemania, But Triple H stole his moment. They let triple H say a ton of racist shit to Booker during the build up to that match also. If they were gonna do that, they shouldve atleast let Booker win after Triple H tried to Bury the guy. Also youre right about Michael Vick. Thats definitely racism. Check this, the same people that are hating on Michael Vick support Charlie Sheen and buy tickets to his tour. Charlie Sheen is far worse than Michael Vick. He shot Kelly Preston in 1990 and didnt serve a day in prison. He is also a known drug addict and woman beater/shooter.
 
it could have something to do with age also. Yes Triple-H is married to Stephanie Mcmahon, and yes maybe it helped but he is still a good wrestler. Remember he started wrestling in WWE in 1994-95 and is still there to this day, there is no way that if the WWE didn't think he was good he would still be in the WWE.

Anyways on tho the topic, maybe WWE does discriminate against black wrestlers but if the guy/girl isn't good anyways why should he get pushed before another guy/girl whatever his/her ethnicity that has more talent. By the way, R-Truth is getting the same treatment as Christian i.e both are former NWA World Heavyweight Champions and both are getting a chance at a championship reign in WWE at Extream Rules.

In all fairness Christian is not that good in the ring. Hes excellent on the mic, however he is better than the miz now that i think about it. R-truth is good on the mic when he can be himself. R-truth is really a heel, thats what alot of people dont know. Hes a brilliant one at that. WWE needs to make him heel and let the guy work his magic.
 
Yes. Yes. Yes. I've been waiting on this thread for so long. I totally agree with it. WWE Goes against Black Performers and they think we don't notice. Out of curiosity I looked at the list of all WWE Champions right up to the Miz and believe it or not the only guy on the list is the WWE Legend Yokozuna. He's the only WWE Superstar from a different background to win the title, He wasn't exactly black, he was Japanese but still WWE has never had a Black WWE Champion. It made me wonder has WWE Picked up on this and is R-Truth actuaally going to win the WWE Title? WWE is certainly not giving a Black Superstar the chance. Its not fair...

Yokozuna was Samoan, not Japanese. The dude is The Rock's cousin.
 
Booker-T Is a Six time world champion, and he was himself. The Rock is also very, very popular even though hes not wrestling until the following wrestlemania. they made The Rock HUGE, if you havent noticed. Devon is a Twenty Three time tag team champion! So what if his brothers are white. Maybe all of the wrestlers that you have hand picked are really being themselves. Jay Lethal is also another young guy that is hungry for stardom.

Booker T was a 5 time world champion in WCW NOT THE WWE. He had to become a British man to win the world title in wwe. And it was well overdue for him to win that belt. They even let fucking Rey mysterio, who IMO is nothing more than a cruiser weight win the belt b4 Booker. Im saying they discriminate against blacks. Im talking about blacks only, so keep that in mind. Secondly the Rock is not fully black. He actually looks more Samoan if anything. Which makes it easier for the racist Vince not to be worried about having a black champ and what the crowd will think.
 
Well i don't know if i can say that since my source is wikipedia, and we all know that wikipedia.com isn't really a reliable source. The thing is that i was reading about Ron Simmons a.k.a Farooq this afternoon and it says that WWE recognizes him ,the rock, Alicia Fox and Lashley booker-t as African Americans that have won World champions in the company.

source :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Simmons
 
Um, beacuase he isnt?

Your last statement shows that YOU are CLEARLY a racist buffon yourself. I surely hope you dont expect anyone to take you opinion seriously after that. Booker T is nowere even remotely close to the same fucking planet as Triple H. Please.

I would rather watch Booker's worst match than HHH's best. Because I know that Triple H will make his opponent look like shit while Booker knows how to get a guy over. Look at his interview before Wrestlemania where he buried the whole locker room. The Undertaker wins and comes out of it looking weak. But that's vintage Triple H.

The only reason HHH gets any credit these days is for the wresters HE WRESTLED, not for his ring performances. Booker T > HHH

If you look at HHH without HBK, he's one of the most boring performers ever in and outside the ring. He's a puppet.

This post is dead on. The only thing I give him credit for is that he's good on the mic. In the ring he's mediocre at best.

As far as Vince goes he's not a racist, he's just ignorant. I don't think the black man is being held down. The Rock never had to beg Austin to win anything. He will tell you that himself.

If you have the look and the attitude you will go far no matter your color. Unless somebody has it out for you and they have pull.
 
A few points:

1) Booker T was only the second black heavyweight champion in WCW as well. Does that mean that WCW, throughout it's entire run, under multiple bookers and levels of management, was racist too?

2) Booker T only became WCW champ once everyone else had more or less vacated the company, and they were on their last legs. He was nowhere near the title during it's run of beating WWE.

3) Why was Booker T a British man? Because they gave him the angle after becoming the King of the Ring. A prestigious victory followed by a title run is hardly a bad thing.

This honestly isn't all that complicated. There is no racist conspiracy. Guys like R-Truth or Kofi Kingston aren't main event fixtures simply because they haven't proven themselves to be good enough, Neither man gets a pop anywhere near what other main event guys get, neither man has demonstrated the ability to be massive merchandise sellers, and neither man has shown that they can sell pay per views. That's all there is to it. Vince McMahon is in the business of making money. When one of these guys, or some other black superstar, steps up and shows that they can draw, that person will be put into a top position.

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. It has everything to do with being able to draw.
 
A few points:

1) Booker T was only the second black heavyweight champion in WCW as well. Does that mean that WCW, throughout it's entire run, under multiple bookers and levels of management, was racist too?

2) Booker T only became WCW champ once everyone else had more or less vacated the company, and they were on their last legs. He was nowhere near the title during it's run of beating WWE.

3) Why was Booker T a British man? Because they gave him the angle after becoming the King of the Ring. A prestigious victory followed by a title run is hardly a bad thing.

This honestly isn't all that complicated. There is no racist conspiracy. Guys like R-Truth or Kofi Kingston aren't main event fixtures simply because they haven't proven themselves to be good enough, Neither man gets a pop anywhere near what other main event guys get, neither man has demonstrated the ability to be massive merchandise sellers, and neither man has shown that they can sell pay per views. That's all there is to it. Vince McMahon is in the business of making money. When one of these guys, or some other black superstar, steps up and shows that they can draw, that person will be put into a top position.

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. It has everything to do with being able to draw.

Every since R-truth has been in WWE when has he been given a fair shot? Honestly? So for you to say that man isnt a world champ material is bullshit and you know it. He wasnt a 2 time world champ in TNa for no reason. All the people R-truth had to be jobber to werent even credible wrestlers at least make him lose to veterans and not rookies i mean seriously dude. R-truth has not been giving a chance or any kind of push since hes been in the WWE. So lets get that straight. However,Kofi isnt a main eventer nor do i think he ever will be.
 
Every since R-truth has been in WWE when has he been given a fair shot? Honestly?

He's in the main event at Extreme Rules, and he's shit. That's a more than fair shot imo.

So for you to say that man isnt a world champ material is bullshit and you know it.

Nope. He's just shit.

He wasnt a 2 time world champ in TNA for no reason.

YOu're right. The reason was that he was in a bigger company so they pushed him. They did the same thing with Christian too.

All the people R-truth had to be jobber to werent even credible wrestlers at least make him lose to veterans and not rookies i mean seriously dude. R-truth has not been giving a chance or any kind of push since hes been in the WWE.

See: the fact that R-Truth is dogshit in the ring, almost 40 (he's old) and in the main event of Extreme Rules.

pquote]So lets get that straight. However,Kofi isnt a main eventer nor do i think he ever will be.[/QUOTE]

Kofi's been on the big shows for all of three years. It took Benoit and Triple H longer than that to win their first WWE titles. Be patient. Not every problem that black wrestlers have is because of racism.
 
Uh, becuase he is half black??! NO SHIT :lmao:

Please, get the fuck off the race card. It is not fault of the WWE that most black wrestlers are shit. Hello.

I'll tell you one thing most blacks are better athletes than whites, and that is a fact not fiction. Vince knows this, so he does his best to keep them down, hardly ever giving them pushes, and makes them jobbers to wrestlers that arent even credible. This ruins how the fans look at them. He makes it seem as if they suck when in fact they never even get pushes or a fair chance. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Vince feels threatened by black talent, notice he even lets the latinos win world titles now, but Shelton couldnt win one? He was the best wrestler on that whole fucking roster and you know it.

Vince wants to keep his product white. He figures it will help sell more tickets and merchandise. Triple H couldnt hold Booker T's jock strap. Booker even as a Jobber is better than triple h. Booker makes weak talent look better than they really are. Triple H isnt any good putting guys over. BOOKER T is the most underrated superstar up all time.

I bet you didnt know Booker T's first World Title match in WCW was improvised. Hogan broke Kayfabe with Russo and walked out on WCW after his match with Jarret. The very same night Hogan won , after his antics he had to fork over that belt. And Booker was asked to face Jarrett for that same belt and history was made. Notice it always takes someone to cause backstage heat and lose their spot for a black guy to become champion? Similarities with how booker got his shot are very similiar to Rtruth getting his. Heres Booker Ts first world title win. This entire match wasnt planned, but improvised, you tell me if triple h ever had to do something like this.
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I'll tell you one thing most blacks are better athletes than whites, and that is a fact not fiction. Vince knows this, so he does his best to keep them down, hardly ever giving them pushes, and makes them jobbers to wrestlers that arent even credible. This ruins how the fans look at them. He makes it seem as if they suck when in fact they never even get pushes or a fair chance. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Vince feels threatened by black talent, notice he even lets the latinos win world titles now, but Shelton couldnt win one? He was the best wrestler on that whole fucking roster and you know it.

Vince wants to keep his product white. He figures it will help sell more tickets and merchandise. Triple H couldnt hold Booker T's jock strap. Booker even as a Jobber is better than triple h. Booker makes weak talent look better than they really are. Triple H isnt any good putting guys over. BOOKER T is the most underrated superstar up all time.

I bet you didnt know Booker T's first World Title match in WCW was improvised. Hogan broke Kayfabe with Russo and walked out on WCW after his match with Jarret. The very same night Hogan won , after his antics he had to fork over that belt. And Booker was asked to face Jarrett for that same belt and history was made. Notice it always takes someone to cause backstage heat and lose their spot for a black guy to become champion? Similarities with how booker got his shot are very similiar to Rtruth getting his. Heres Booker Ts first world title win. This entire match wasnt planned, but improvised, you tell me if triple h ever had to do something like this.

Uh, super athlete does NOT = great wrestler, never has, never will.

Shelton Benjamin isnt ON the roster, dumbass. Why? becuase he is fucking awful, and no one cares about him.

Im not even going to BEGIN to list all of the wrestlers that Triple H has put over, as it would be a complete waste of time. Its clear you dont have the first fucking clue how wrestling actually works, or you would understand that Triple H has made more stars than ANYONE On that roster.

Its called "calling it in the ring" and most of the old school guys do it every fucking match they have. It isnt that impressive, nor is it that unusual. Once again, you show yourself to actually have very little knowledge of wrestling.

What IS impressive and unusual is getting a GOOD match out of The Great Khali, which is exactly what Triple H did at SummerSlam 2008.

R-Truth is going for a world title in two weeks, and he is fucking atrocious. Mark Henry was ECW champion for the better part of a year. The Rock is half black. Faarooq was booked to win a world title before he was injured back in the late 90s.

You dont know shit, and you like an absolute fucking moron. The WWE is about buisness, and nothing else.
 
I'll tell you one thing most blacks are better athletes than whites, and that is a fact not fiction. Vince knows this, so he does his best to keep them down, hardly ever giving them pushes, and makes them jobbers to wrestlers that arent even credible. This ruins how the fans look at them. He makes it seem as if they suck when in fact they never even get pushes or a fair chance. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Vince feels threatened by black talent, notice he even lets the latinos win world titles now, but Shelton couldnt win one? He was the best wrestler on that whole fucking roster and you know it.

Seriously, you're going there? You're using real sports where tallent is all that matters and comparing that to Pro-Wrestling where athleticism is pretty damn low on the list of things a successful wrestler needs? You are a complete and utter racist moron. Being athletic doesn't matter if you can't make anybody give a shit about you.

Vince wants to keep his product white. He figures it will help sell more tickets and merchandise.

Yes. The fact that these white guys selling tickets and making WWE money couldn't possibly be BETTER at their jobs than the superior race. I mean it's impossible for a white guy to earn his spot and deserve it over a black guy. I mean Blacks are better at running, so how could they be worse at wrestling?

Triple H couldnt hold Booker T's jock strap. Booker even as a Jobber is better than triple h. Booker makes weak talent look better than they really are. Triple H isnt any good putting guys over. BOOKER T is the most underrated superstar up all time.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No.

I bet you didnt know Booker T's first World Title match in WCW was improvised.

I bet you didn't know that it wasn't.

Hogan broke Kayfabe with Russo and walked out on WCW after his match with Jarret. The very same night Hogan won , after his antics he had to fork over that belt.

Id this referring to the shoot that wasn't a shoot at Bash at the Beach and the failed New Blood vs the Millionaire's club angle? Because that wasn't improved. It was preplanned.

And Booker was asked to face Jarrett for that same belt and history was made. Notice it always takes someone to cause backstage heat and lose their spot for a black guy to become champion?

...If you wanted to make an actually relavent point you could have gone with Ron Simmons winning the title because a white guy got injured and he won a lottery. But you had to go with untrue bullshit.

Oh, and thanks for proving NorCal's point about you being a mark by the way.

Similarities with how booker got his shot are very similiar to Rtruth getting his. Heres Booker Ts first world title win. This entire match wasnt planned, but improvised, you tell me if triple h ever had to do something like this.

He's led improvised matches before. All vetrain wrestlers have, because sometimes, shit goes wrong and you have to improvise to get to get an actual result.
 
I really do believe it is down to a lack of main event talent amongst the black wrestlers signed to the WWE than it is down to racism. I do not for a second believe the WWE is racist. Yeah they play on stereotypes a lot but that goes for black wrestlers, british wrestlers, redneck wrestlers, mexican wrestlers, irish wrestlers, asian wrestlers...the list is endless.

It really is as simple as apart from Booker T who did become Heavyweight Champion, King of The Ring and held many other belts..well apart from him and maybe a couple of others I can't name many black wrestlers who deserved to be pushed further than they were.. can you name more than 5? not including Booker T

Kofi and R truth in my eyes are not main eventers. I really do not care if the main eventers are black, white or purple..aslong as they are entertaining and believable in that role or get the belt through a good storyline. I personally would have liked to see Mark Henry as WWF Champion way back when but personally I would have also liked to see Goldust with the top belt way back when so that's just me. Also at the time there were far better wrestlers fighting over the WWF Title to allow that..although if Vince could be champ.... who knows.

William Regal for WWE Champion???
 
Dude so im a moron now? thats typical. You know its against the rules to call someone names because you disagree with them and everything i said was right and i proved it. You cant get mad at me for telling the truth.[

We're just waiting for you to tell us something resembling truth since you haven't done so yet.

Truth is Triple H aint as good as you make him out to be. Booker is better than Triple H at putting people over when was the last time Triple h put someone over and looked good doing? I rest my case.

How about Sheamus at Extreme Rules last year?

Let me ask you something, brutha. Who has Booker T ever put over in the WWE? Give me three names and and those three instances so I can tell you why you are wrong?

Are you saying Triple H is better than the Rock, Stonecold, Taker and HBK? He had no business winning the world title 14 times and anyone with common sense would agree. Ric Flair is a 16 times champion deservingly so, but Triple h had everything handed to him dude. Taking Steroids, flexing your muscles, spewing out water, and banging the bosses daughter doesnt make you a good champion.

So what you're saying is that Flair deserved every one of those titles? You know that truth thing you're talking to us about. I don't think you know what the word means.
 
I've read through some of this and the idiocy astounds me. Let's take a look at some of the names on this list. Screw it let's look at all of them.

Shelton Benjamin

Stole the show at just about every MITB match he was in, had an excellent match vs. Shawn on Raw, beat HHH two or three times in a row on Raw.....and did nothing with it. Shelton never stepped up his game and got so lazy it was unreal.

Mark Henry

He's been in the WWF nearly 15 years now and has the same moveset since the day he debuted. When he's healthy he has that same moveset I mean. I guess we'll ignore his main eventing a Royal Rumble too right? And his run as ECW Champion. And when he couldn't stop laughing when Lawler was making fun of Roberts and Henry looked like an idiot.

2-Cold Scorpio

Around for about 3 years and was given multiple gimmicks to get over which never worked. Requested time off and they released him instead, probably due to cost cutting. This has happened to how many people over the years? Hundreds? Thousands?

Big Daddy V

King of the Ring in 1995, top heel in the company for the second half of 1995, main event of Summerslam 1995, all of which bombed and had WWF doing some of the worst numbers they've ever done. BUt if he was a big fat worthless out of shape man-boob having WHITE guy, it would be ok right?


You....you can't be serious right? Debuts in the main event of a PPV World Title match as a world champion, main events Summerslam 3 months after said debut in a world title match against The Rock, 5 time world champion in WCW (constantly reminded of this in WWE), world title shot at Mania, main evented Survivor Series 2002, beat the superhero known as Rey Mysterio for the world title in 2007 in a king gimmick, making him probably the most successful ever to use such a gimmick? Yeah he was wasted wasn't he?

The Boogeyman

Here we have a man in his 40s that lied about his age and was given a job anyway, and yet you're complaining that he was given a bad gimmick? He was ridiculously popular with kids, but hey let's blast the company for him lying about his age and getting cut from Tough Enough right?

Brother Devon

Half of the hottest tag team on the planet in late 99/early 2000 and won how many tag titles? Two dozen or so? Give me a break.

Elijah Burke

This guy suffered from a lack of talent. Not WWE's fault that he's one of the most overrated guys in recent memory.

Ernest Miller

When in the world was this guy ever worth anything? He was AWFUL in WCW and yet he got a job in WWF....somehow. No idea why and don't care otherwise.


Let's see. WCW World Champion, longest reigning tag champion in WCW history, head of a major stable when he was in his late 30s, multiple tag titles when in his 40s, main event of KOTR 97, helped Rock get over the hump, part of a very popular tag team, got another job after retiring to say a total of one word a week. Think about that for a minute.

The Godfather

Multiple gimmicks, the guy that got to run in on Hulk Hogan's possible retirement match in the main event of Wrestlemania 8, got the first feud with the Warrior after his shocking return, won the IC Title and the tag titles and was ridiculously popular for a long time. he left to pursue a different career. Hardly WWE's fault.

Montel Vontavious Porter

Overrated beyond belief. Show me one great match he had. One. Also, longest WWE US Champion ever, but I guess we can ignore that for the sake of you trying to keep this weak argument of your's up.

Norman Smiley

Wait, I can use stuff that didn't happen in WWE? Blast it. Now I have to go back and change things. he was a comedy character. Like Santino, Hornswoggle, Big Dick Johnson, Kwee Wee and Rico, all of whom are white. But again, they're white so it's different......right?

Jay Lethal

You complain about a lack of seriousness with him. When in the world did he ever do anything as Jay Lethal? Now what did he do as Black Machismo? How many X-Division Titles did he get?

Orlando Jordan

Perhaps the least talented guy I can remember holding a title ever. The guy simply isn't any good.


You wouldn't work as a silent slave character who wore awesome suit-like clothes and wrestled like once a year for a full WWF salary? Really? Also he had a featured match at Mania 7 and then had nothing to offer.

and of course my two current favorites..


Every generation has jobbers. He was how popular in Cryme Tyme? Oh yes: ridiculously popular.


So now you're complaining because a guy that sings a song he wrote and owns the copyright to is singing a song that he wrote and owns the copyright to? In other words, IT'S HIS SONG. WWE isn't putting him in this (or in the WWE Title match main event of a PPV for that matter. Or the main event of last year's Summerslam) because they stuck him with a rapper gimmick. He's a rapper himself. It's the same as Savage being insane, Angle being a "wrestler" or Austin being a redneck. That's who they are.

In short (too late), you're incredibly biased, have no sense of what is reality, and aren't very intelligent.
 
Seriously, you're going there? You're using real sports where tallent is all that matters and comparing that to Pro-Wrestling where athleticism is pretty damn low on the list of things a successful wrestler needs? You are a complete and utter racist moron. Being athletic doesn't matter if you can't make anybody give a shit about you.



Yes. The fact that these white guys selling tickets and making WWE money couldn't possibly be BETTER at their jobs than the superior race. I mean it's impossible for a white guy to earn his spot and deserve it over a black guy. I mean Blacks are better at running, so how could they be worse at wrestling?



Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No.



I bet you didn't know that it wasn't.



Id this referring to the shoot that wasn't a shoot at Bash at the Beach and the failed New Blood vs the Millionaire's club angle? Because that wasn't improved. It was preplanned.



...If you wanted to make an actually relavent point you could have gone with Ron Simmons winning the title because a white guy got injured and he won a lottery. But you had to go with untrue bullshit.

Oh, and thanks for proving NorCal's point about you being a mark by the way.



He's led improvised matches before. All vetrain wrestlers have, because sometimes, shit goes wrong and you have to improvise to get to get an actual result.

Im talking about improvising and entire match thats what Booker T and Jeff Jarret had to do. Fact of the matter Triple H is not as good as you want him to be its sad how offensive you get at the truth. That you have to result to name calling. Did i ever call you out of your name? The guys that are selling tickets and making WWE MONEY. Is because theyre actually given a shot and dont have to be the jobber all the time like Shelton and Rtruth
 

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