Santino Marella Fan-a-Club (SFAC)

[justinsayne]

You know Justin, for a Santino Hater, you sure do spend an awful lot of time in the fan club meeting room! They say the inferior tend to spend time with those better than themselves to associate with greatness, I do not blame you.

Besides, there's a big difference between people like you and the other person. You are constructive, funny, and speak in complete sentences. Like it or not, you ADD more to the fan-a-club than you DETRACT. Sad but true my friend...

Uh huh sure, yeah whatever helps you sleep better at night buddy

I figure somebody has to come in here and speak the truth, so that others will realize how bad Santino really is, hopefully someday Vince will realize that Santino is a waste of space and his roster spot could be given to a much more interesting wrestler, say Colt Cabana, now there's a guy who has both mic and ring skills, and he just so happens to be good buddies with the best champ in WWE, CM Punk

 

[BooCocky]

Why Santino Sucks

1. He is stuck with a Diva as a Valet, always a sign of someone that can't cut it.

2. The IC title did not bring him up, but he brought the IC title down.

3. He must depend on a guy retired for five years to get half a decent reaction.

Santino Sucks, that is all.

Meh, the IC title has been down for ever, it isnt credible being passed around person to person. Santino gets a mad heel reaction.

 

[KyleCobra]

To end the argument...

C.U.M Punk doesnt hold a candle to santino

that is a the end a

 

[The Elijah Express]

Wow never would of thought people actually like Santino. What do you all find so interesting in him? To me he's just a waste of time on TV reminds me of people like Snitsky no talent and completely worthless.

 

[BooCocky]

Wow never would of thought people actually like Santino. What do you all find so interesting in him? To me he's just a waste of time on TV reminds me of people like Snitsky no talent and completely worthless.

yeah but Snitsky doesn't talk, and gets a charlie haas reaction, while Santino gets something. Why do you like Burke, he is just getting buried on ECW?

 

[The Elijah Express]

Honestly I can't tell you the last time we've all seen Santino actually take place in a match. Elijah is a very entertaining superstar and his in ring skills are executed so well like you said he's not used right a bit but at least he still competes.

 

[BooCocky]

Honestly I can't tell you the last time we've all seen Santino actually take place in a match. Elijah is a very entertaining superstar and his in ring skills are executed so well like you said he's not used right a bit but at least he still competes.

Santino defeated val Venis several weeks ago. They are using Santino's strength, while Elijah is getting buried on a C show.

 

[The Elijah Express]

Val Venis rofl His career ended years ago Santino has lost to every real competitor he has faced including the great MVP I'm not going to argue with you I just asked a simple question.

 

[BooCocky]

Val Venis rofl His career ended years ago Santino has lost to every real competitor he has faced including the great MVP I'm not going to argue with you I just asked a simple question.

I asked a Simple Question also. Santino also defeated Umaga in under 3 minutes and defeated the recently released Chris Masters

 

[The Elijah Express]

I asked a Simple Question also. Santino also defeated Umaga in under 3 minutes and defeated the recently released Chris Masters

He did not get much offense in against Umaga at Vengeance and was destroyed after the match. Did he beat Masters recently? No that little fued happened around the beginning of May I don't see what you are trying to prove here.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Why Santino Sucks

1. He is stuck with a Diva as a Valet, always a sign of someone that can't cut it.

2. The IC title did not bring him up, but he brought the IC title down.

3. He must depend on a guy retired for five years to get half a decent reaction.

Santino Sucks, that is all.

1. He is not "stuck" with a diva as a valet. There's nothing wrong with a Diva valet. It's a formula that has worked for a long time. Take a moment and look at TNA right now - 3 of the top 5 heels in the company have Diva valets who work extremely well for their characters. Robert Roode has Ms. Brooks, Kurt Angle has Karen Angle, and James Storm has Jackie Moore.

2. The Intercontinental Title absolutely brought him up. It made everyone take notice of him. The fact that he also held the title for a little while helped. It wasn't about the credibility of the Intercontinental belt, it was about making a loud noise and creating a new star, as well as solidifying the WWE in an international market. If I am not mistaken, the last WWE wrestler to win a championship in their debut was some Light-Heavyweight named Christian. He did ok.

3. From the looks of the segment Monday night, I think that Austin had to depend on Santino to get the reaction. Why? Because people actually CARED to watch Austin do his old, tired routine to Santino due to the heel aura Santino has. It never mattered that EVERYONE in the known world agrees with Santino about Austin's movie, or that The Milan Miracle carried Monday night's segment - Santino made us WANT to see Austin do what he does best, and did th ebest job of anyone in a long time and making it worth it.

It's about time we had a half-decent debate about Santino in the fan club room. Bearer, I thank you. Keep it coming if you want...

 

[The Elijah Express]

If I am not mistaken, the last WWE wrestler to win a championship in their debut was some Light-Heavyweight named Christian. He did ok.

Actually Carlito and Santino are the most recent to do this.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Actually Carlito and Santino are the most recent to do this.

I meant the last wrestler SINCE Christian was Santino. Thought I'd been clear, but I had not.

Did Carlito win the US title in his debut?

 

[BooCocky]

I meant the last wrestler SINCE Christian was Santino. Thought I'd been clear, but I had not.

Did Carlito win the US title in his debut?

didn't he beat Cena? I also thought that happened on SD?

 

[IrishCanadian25]

I just checked title history, nice point Elijah. Carlito won the US Title in his debut match. Carlito started off like a ball of fire and has seen some success - I sure hope Santino doesn't develop Carlito's attitude and wind up driving himself into the ground.

 

[The Elijah Express]

I just checked title history, nice point Elijah. Carlito won the US Title in his debut match. Carlito started off like a ball of fire and has seen some success - I sure hope Santino doesn't develop Carlito's attitude and wind up driving himself into the ground.

Yea I'd say in about within the next 2 weeks we'll be seeing Carlito's release. =(

 

[BooCocky]

Carlito is terrible, i for one would be happy. Maybe then they'd bring up Burchill.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Yea I'd say in about within the next 2 weeks we'll be seeing Carlito's release. =(

Damn shame too. Carlito and Masters, I felt, were a tag team with promise. No reason to force them as singles stars.

I don't think you'll see Marella go the way of Carlito. While Carlito seems to have a touch more raw talent (being objective) and replete with far more experience, I see Marella as more of a "student of the business" which Vince and management will enjoy.

So 3 debut champs so far...Christian, Carlito, Santino...

 

[justinsayne]

Damn shame too. Carlito and Masters, I felt, were a tag team with promise. No reason to force them as singles stars.

I don't think you'll see Marella go the way of Carlito. While Carlito seems to have a touch more raw talent (being objective) and replete with far more experience, I see Marella as more of a "student of the business" which Vince and management will enjoy.

So 3 debut champs so far...Christian, Carlito, Santino...

There are four, you forgot Gail Kim, when she debuted in WWE she won the Women's title in a Diva's battle royal

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Santino should feud with Lashley. That way he can call him Boobie. That will never get old.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Santino should feud with Lashley. That way he can call him Boobie. That will never get old.

That's awesome. Print it!

Equally as fun would be Lashley claiming to be "The man of 10 holds" only for Marella to call himself "The man of 14 holds." Sadly I don't think the Armbar will be one of the them, but "The Mongolian School Boy" may show up.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Santino's gimmick should be that he constantly bickers with people. He always has to get the last word in. Always has to be better.

C.M. Punk ''I dated Maria for about 18 months''

Santino'' Well I a fucka her 14 timas over 18 and half month period''

 

[Shocky]

1. He is not "stuck" with a diva as a valet. There's nothing wrong with a Diva valet. It's a formula that has worked for a long time. Take a moment and look at TNA right now - 3 of the top 5 heels in the company have Diva valets who work extremely well for their characters. Robert Roode has Ms. Brooks, Kurt Angle has Karen Angle, and James Storm has Jackie Moore.

2. The Intercontinental Title absolutely brought him up. It made everyone take notice of him. The fact that he also held the title for a little while helped. It wasn't about the credibility of the Intercontinental belt, it was about making a loud noise and creating a new star, as well as solidifying the WWE in an international market. If I am not mistaken, the last WWE wrestler to win a championship in their debut was some Light-Heavyweight named Christian. He did ok.

3. From the looks of the segment Monday night, I think that Austin had to depend on Santino to get the reaction. Why? Because people actually CARED to watch Austin do his old, tired routine to Santino due to the heel aura Santino has. It never mattered that EVERYONE in the known world agrees with Santino about Austin's movie, or that The Milan Miracle carried Monday night's segment - Santino made us WANT to see Austin do what he does best, and did th ebest job of anyone in a long time and making it worth it.

It's about time we had a half-decent debate about Santino in the fan club room. Bearer, I thank you. Keep it coming if you want...

1. Your comparing apples and oranges when comparing TNA and the WWE. The WWE hasn't had a proper women's manager since Sensational Sherri. The WWE puts guys with women, because the women usually get a bigger pop then the guys, much like Maria and Santino. Without Maria there as eye candy, no one would give a shit.

2. Nope, Santino's value went down during this title reign. Did he win a match at all. What was his pay per view record. The guy did nothing with the IC Title, and amazingly enough, managed to devalue the thing more then the Jeff Hardy Johnny Nitro feud, and that's saying a lot.

3. Come on now, the only reason people have cared about Santino is because he included Austin in his rants. Everyone knew the eventual beatdown was coming. That's why the WWE had Santino do this, because they want him to get recognized somehow. What better way then to get his ass kicked by the biggest star in the company. And yes, he's still the biggest star in the company even though he's been retired for five years, kinda sad when you think about it.

 

[Lil Wes]

And yes, he's still the biggest star in the company even though he's been retired for five years, kinda sad when you think about it.

Agreed.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

1. Your comparing apples and oranges when comparing TNA and the WWE. The WWE hasn't had a proper women's manager since Sensational Sherri. The WWE puts guys with women, because the women usually get a bigger pop then the guys, much like Maria and Santino. Without Maria there as eye candy, no one would give a shit.

2. Nope, Santino's value went down during this title reign. Did he win a match at all. What was his pay per view record. The guy did nothing with the IC Title, and amazingly enough, managed to devalue the thing more then the Jeff Hardy Johnny Nitro feud, and that's saying a lot.

3. Come on now, the only reason people have cared about Santino is because he included Austin in his rants. Everyone knew the eventual beatdown was coming. That's why the WWE had Santino do this, because they want him to get recognized somehow. What better way then to get his ass kicked by the biggest star in the company. And yes, he's still the biggest star in the company even though he's been retired for five years, kinda sad when you think about it.

I didn't compare apples to oranges at all. The days of great female managers are long gone. I compared TNA female valets to WWE female valets. Almost no difference. And yes, I realize that Maria elevates Santino's character for now. I am fine with that, because everyone starts somewhere. Steve Austin was once "The Ringmaster" and nobody gave a crap about him. Sometimes it takes time - there are no "instant stars."

And the early IC Title win elevated Santino because it made fans resent him. It made his heel heat seemless, talking about himself like a legendary, seasoned vet after a flukey title win. It made the heel Santino that much more effective.

Of course he got a lot of his heat by focusing on Austin, and yes we all knew the beat down was coming. But damn he did a great job on it in the process, and probably spoke the truth and represented 90% of movie-going fans in the process. Mark my words, Santino's performance on RAW with Austin last week was ALL SANTINO and a little of the Austin mystique. Austin on Monday was a shell of his former self, but we popped for the connection to the old Austin. That'll fun out, just like it has for Mick Foley. But Santino will emerge a bona fide mid-card heel, and I can see him in a legit IC Title push within the next 6 months.