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[The Butcher]

This has shown their lack of credible heels.

Makes me wish Hall of Pain Henry and Conspiracy Truth never turned.

 

[L@RISANO]

I really just don't understand why the WWE doesn't want to push the Wyatt family. They are the most interesting group in WWE when booked correctly. They put on the match of the year with the Shield earlier.

It's like they're afraid their characters are too .. "Not PG" or something.

It isn't that they aren't being pushed...more like they aren't being pushed as a Main Player in the WWE as yet, since the focus is on the Shield guys mostly and Cena/Lesnar,etc...

 

[L@RISANO]

Was interesting to note that Cena's Cheering Buddies happened to be 2 other guys who were manhandled by Brock Lesnar also in Big Show and Mark Henry....only Taker was missing .

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Agreed.

Now let's hope someone from Creative reads your post and books it logically.


Personally, I'd have Rollins emerge the victor with HHH being the mastermind behind it, which would make Reigns seem vulnerable.

Ambrose could then return on the Post-NoC RAW to help Reigns in some form or the other.

Sets up Ambrose vs Rollins again and Reigns vs HHH also...

That works. Reigns/HHH is the next logical step.

Makes me wish Hall of Pain Henry and Conspiracy Truth never turned.

Hall of Pain is some of my favorite recent heel work.

Conspiracy Truth was funny but had no longevity as someone credible.

 

[The Butcher]

Conspiracy Truth was funny but had no longevity as someone credible.

Fair point. I was just thinking of a good heel that was fed to Cena. Ron Killings was great heel in TNA. Granted it was a much lesser promotion then, but regardless of the platform, he shined. Awesome Truth R-Truth was unhinged and dangerous. Conspiracy Truth was over, but yeah that version was played for laughs. I was down with it, though, and they could've played up his paranoid schizophrenia to a point where he was credible.

I saw mention of a heel Sheamus, and I wish he hadn't turned either.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Conspiracy Truth was an incredible character. If he'd have done that 5 years earlier when he could still go, it would have had some legs.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Fair point. I was just thinking of a good heel that was fed to Cena. Ron Killings was great heel in TNA. Granted it was a much lesser promotion then, but regardless of the platform, he shined. Awesome Truth R-Truth was unhinged and dangerous. Conspiracy Truth was over, but yeah that version was played for laughs. I was down with it, though, and they could've played up his paranoid schizophrenia to a point where he was credible.

I saw mention of a heel Sheamus, and I wish he hadn't turned either.

Face Sheamus had real potential as a badass, not too far from what Reigns is turning into. But he's such a colorful looking guy it was just so easy for them to market him towards the kids.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Didn't see the ending. I thought we are supposed to assume Wyatt is not a wins and losses guy. That he would rather sacrifice himself to "expose Cena for the monster that he is".

Is it possible that is where Bray takes Cena's story in a promo next week?

 

[The Butcher]

Face Sheamus had real potential as a badass, not too far from what Reigns is turning into. But he's such a colorful looking guy it was just so easy for them to market him towards the kids.

"They tryin' to brainwash these lil' Jimmies! It's a conspiracy! Useta not be this way. Now, I know useta is roosta from Brewsta. That's understood. But my point about spiders remains valid. Ya see, WWE is scared of heights, just like me. Lil' Jimmy here gonna like whatever. He don't know no betta. But some a y'all out there know what's up! And that's... the truth!"

Didn't see the ending. I thought we are supposed to assume Wyatt is not a wins and losses guy. That he would rather sacrifice himself to "expose Cena for the monster that he is".

Is it possible that is where Bray takes Cena's story in a promo next week?

It would have been nice if the announce team alluded to that. Nicer still if Bray had made it seem like he wanted/enjoyed the beatdown. You bring up a good question, and I think the answer is 'yes.' WWE can retcon the ass whooping a bit with a promo next week.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Just a note...

Sandow reminded me of The Missing Link some how last night. It may have just been the head butts and black trunks. I know he was parodying The Miz but there was something about it very Missing Linkish.

 

[Uncle Sam]

This is great.


Destroy your most credible heels to rebuild a 15 time world champion who has a decade of sheer dominance, for his match with a guy who is in the WWE 20 times per year.



Couldn't be a more obvious example of everything wrong with WWE.

My internal monologue:

"Norcs can't be talking about Bray Wyatt, can he?"

Sam goes to watch the Raw highlights.

"Oh, for fuck's sake!"

 

[Radical]

Yeah, I, like many of you was not a fan of how they booked Cena on Raw last night. Or how Raw was booked overall, last night.

It was pretty much a garbage show.

I liked that there was a spot on the card to further the Tag Team title feud, IC title feud, and US title feud and those parts were done pretty good by having the challenger or champion at commentary or in the match.

I thought Miz having Sandow as a stunt double was funny, but of course it lead to a super short match, which is unfortunate, because it would be nice to see WWE give Sandow at least a BIT more credibility as a Superstar, even in these multiple personality disorder roles.

Worst part was the Cena parts (I'm ignoring the Diva's parts all together). The opening panel segment was super pointless. Cena's comments were stupid. Then, the worst was still to come. John Cena vs Bray Wyatt.

Cena shouldn't have even been on Raw. Or if he was, he should have had his head taped up or something, then maybe had a heel jobber like Curtis Axel or something come down and provoke Cena, saying he's a shell of his former self, or something, then have Cena demand a match, and beat Axel in 3 minutes or less. At least no one would really be that upset since Axel is part of a tag team and hasn't had a push since his IC run a while ago.

But, no, Cena was there, running around like he's a damn rookie who's as fresh as can be but ready for a fight. Bray Wyatt was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Because like, who else did the WWE really have to feed to Cena?

The way they promoted the match as the Main Event, they had to make it a reasonable opponent. Curtis Axel, Ryback, Titus O'Neil, while they COULD be credible if pushed right by now, aren't, and therefore aren't Main Event material.

The ONLY other option besides Wyatt was Orton and I guess they didn't want Orton to get the beat down because how recently he was viciously beating down others like RVD AND that I guess they wanted Show and Henry to be involved so Orton has Rollins and Kane but they already had a match and they definitely didn't want them to be buried by Cena.

So, it is unfortunate for Wyatt, because he was made to look pretty damn weak. The only solace in this whole thing for Wyatt is that he is still young, he is young enough that you could stretch and kayfabe believe that Cena, the veteran, was running on extreme adrenaline and Wyatt, the 'rookie', wasn't quite ready AND that Wyatt will take this as a lesson and be better prepared for next time. HOPEFULLY down the road once the Cena/Lesnar thing blows over Cena finally does what he SHOULD do and put Wyatt over.