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Orton is just a step below Cena, it could've been him tonight and no one would've bat an eye.

Speaking of Orton where the fuck was he and Jericho?
 
Yeah, Orton would have been fine. Casual fans hate him and the IWC has a love/hate relationship that's been sitting on the latter side since he joined the Authority. I doubt anyone would have thrown a pity party for Orton if he played the sacrificial lamb. Plus, as someone else said, it could also have been used to further divide Orton from the Authority. He could be furious for being put in the match to begin with or something.
 
The funniest part about this is that Cena will get blamed for "burying" Wyatt. The person who booked Wyatt to face Cena is the one who did this.

Of course since most Cena haters think he controls the space time continuum, I guess in their eyes it would be his fault.
 
Lesnar demolished Cena, their multi time champion.
Having Cena demolish Orton like he did to Bray would just reinforce that everyone else is shit, even multi time champions.

In professional wrestling, logic like this doesn't always apply.

Still, ADR would've been perfect.
 
Lesnar demolished Cena, their multi time champion.
Having Cena demolish Orton like he did to Bray would just reinforce that everyone else is shit, even multi time champions.

Yeah, no. They could have had Rybaxel, Orton's most recent lackeys, run in and do the same exact thing. Orton wouldn't have been any worse off than he was jobbing out to Daniel Bryan and The Shield every month for the past 6 months.
 
In professional wrestling, logic like this doesn't always apply.

Still, ADR would've been perfect.

Well destroying one guy isn't the same as destroying 3 guys. Not that I would argue against using Del Rio in this role.

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Yeah, no. They could have had Rybaxel, Orton's most recent lackeys, run in and do the same exact thing. Orton wouldn't have been any worse off than he was jobbing out to Daniel Bryan and The Shield every month for the past 6 months.
Orton has lackeys? I thought he was the authority's lackey. And Wyatt isn't any worse off too. Plus he don't have the baggage of being a 12 time champion being destroyed.
 
Bray was good choice in the eyes of WWE. Orton is too high in their eyes just to diminish him by feeding him to Cena, guy who Orton won clean last year. Now, could have been Rybaxel. They arent credible threat but dominating and squashing a guy like Ryback could be nice making of statement. But I do get that WWE needed someone credible so theyve taken Bray...
 
Well destroying one guy isn't the same as destroying 3 guys. Not that I would argue against using Del Rio in this role.

Orton has lackeys? I thought he was the authority's lackey. And Wyatt isn't any worse off too. Plus he don't have the baggage of being a 12 time champion being destroyed.

Sadly, it's going to look bad for him. He lost to Cena again. Even though the backstory was more about Cena dominating someone credible, how many people really picked that up?

You don't put someone you want to build in that position.
 
They could have had Cena raw-dog butt fuck Orton for 15 minutes and it wouldnt diminish Orton any more than they already have.


Orton was the much better option
 
SV really hit the nail on the head with ADR. Even better than Orton.

ADR was the logical choice of an upper card heel who is usually protected...but he isn't around anymore, and beyond him, there is only Bray and Orton basically...even BNB who was also an over heel is currently injured as well.
 
Shame about Bray, not like he's irredeemable or anything but he's cooled off immensely since Payback.

I wonder how much credibility he lost tonight...good thing he didn't have to tap out as that would have hurt him big time.

I still say have Bray try to recruit Orton at some point, or maybe be the reason that Sheamus turns heel... Bray really needs a good push to get himself back up as a possible top Heel,lMO.
 
I wonder how much credibility he lost tonight...good thing he didn't have to tap out as that would have hurt him big time.

I still say have Bray try to recruit Orton at some point, or maybe be the reason that Sheamus turns heel... Bray really needs a good push to get himself back up as a possible top Heel,lMO.

Yes. Bray needs a good program he goes over well in.
 
Sadly, it's going to look bad for him. He lost to Cena again. Even though the backstory was more about Cena dominating someone credible, how many people really picked that up?

You don't put someone you want to build in that position.

This. And I'm glad you got me to see what WWE wanted us to see. It's a good perspective. However, my first impression, like most, was "sacrificial lamb." Most fans probably didn't see what they were going for, and, even if they did, people are tired of Cena and want to see Bray be the monster we'd hoped he'd be.
 
Someone needed to be fed to Cena. Might as well be Wyatt. No point feeding Orton to Cena on Raw to diminish another multi time champion.

Rusev, Lesnar, Paige, Nikki and Rollins are all heels in the spotlight that are winning or dominating at the moment. The good guys need some good news too besides Reigns and human ragdoll Ziggler.

Disagree.

Orton has reached the point where he doesn't seem to have much upside, and just isn't interesting anymore even as a heel, which is why his feud with Reigns has been lacklustre, to say the least.


Whilst Bray just got a good clean win over Y2J at SummerSlam, and actually, unlike Orton, Does have an upside going forward as a possible Top Heel character.
 
The funniest part about this is that Cena will get blamed for "burying" Wyatt. The person who booked Wyatt to face Cena is the one who did this.

Of course since most Cena haters think he controls the space time continuum, I guess in their eyes it would be his fault.

lulz.

That's just the way it is, guess we just have to deal with it, even though Creative seem to mess up at points...
 
I really just don't understand why the WWE doesn't want to push the Wyatt family. They are the most interesting group in WWE when booked correctly. They put on the match of the year with the Shield earlier.

It's like they're afraid their characters are too .. "Not PG" or something.
 
I honestly wonder if Orton said no. He's not afraid to job, but maybe he didn't want to job that hard.

wouldn't be surprised if that was the case,tbh.

I just hope that Reigns vs Orton 2 won't be happening...I have zero interest in that feud now...time to move on and build up Reigns' momentum and have some continuity to the storyline from Payback onwards.
 
wouldn't be surprised if that was the case,tbh.

I just hope that Reigns vs Orton 2 won't be happening...I have zero interest in that feud now...time to move on and build up Reigns' momentum and have some continuity to the storyline from Payback onwards.

They should book Reigns/Rollins at NOC. Either Rollins wins dirty a la Kane, or Reigns wins dirty a la surprise Ambrose return.
 
This. And I'm glad you got me to see what WWE wanted us to see. It's a good perspective. However, my first impression, like most, was "sacrificial lamb." Most fans probably didn't see what they were going for, and, even if they did, people are tired of Cena and want to see Bray be the monster we'd hoped he'd be.

This.

I get that the WWE are pushing the Shield guys this year, but they should have had an effective plan with regards to Bray and protecting his character until they were ready to give him a big Monster push(perhaps post-Lesnar/Authority).

Really, he should have stayed off of TV post-Payback for a while, perhaps, and when an Ambrose/Reigns/Daniel Bryan type face became free, then he should have been brought back to have a programme that would portray him as a true Top Heel.

Atm, his credibility seems to be diminishing with every PPV that passes. Hopefully, whatever if planned with Sheamus(rumour) can help him somehow.
 
They should book Reigns/Rollins at NOC. Either Rollins wins dirty a la Kane, or Reigns wins dirty a la surprise Ambrose return.

Agreed.

Now let's hope someone from Creative reads your post and books it logically.


Personally, I'd have Rollins emerge the victor with HHH being the mastermind behind it, which would make Reigns seem vulnerable.

Ambrose could then return on the Post-NoC RAW to help Reigns in some form or the other.

Sets up Ambrose vs Rollins again and Reigns vs HHH also...
 

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