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Raw LD 7/27 - A Moment of Silence Please for <<redaction>>'s Ten Bell Salute

Settle down Smarks. Show still had value w/the company. He just needs to be away from the main event which he is. In this match both came away looking strong.
 
John Cena has been on top for over 10 years with an extremely stale gimmick and countless world title reigns. Quit hogging the spotlight and not letting other younger, more talented wrestlers actually get pushed for once. Hell of a concept, I know.

Oh don't talk wet for Christ's sake. He's been on fire since Wrestlemania with his US Title open challenges. His gimmick is anything but stale now. He's not hogging the spotlight, Cena own's the spotlight when he's on top. And yea it's a damm shame that Owens didn't get pushed, and Cesaro isn't getting any attention at all now either.
 
WWE overcomplicates shit.

If Ambrose was gonna get the upper hand...why couldn't he just win the match!? Work smart, not hard.

I don't get why they wouldn't end this with Dean Ambrose Counting Out Big Show with the barricade spot, instead of tacking it on as a post match thing.
 
I wish they'd push one of them either owens or Cesaro. Also they are really pushing the superhero vs super villain thing with Stardust and Neville.
 
WWE overcomplicates shit.

If Ambrose was gonna get the upper hand...why couldn't he just win the match!? Work smart, not hard.

I don't get why they wouldn't end this with Dean Ambrose Counting Out Big Show with the barricade spot, instead of tacking it on as a post match thing.

Show takes a L and is left on the floor shits on the IC title angle. The way it was book allowed for both the look fine.
 
For some reason I have a hankering for a Stardust vs Undertaker match. I have no idea why. Maybe clash of gimmicks.
 
Oh don't talk wet for Christ's sake. He's been on fire since Wrestlemania with his US Title open challenges. His gimmick is anything but stale now. He's not hogging the spotlight, Cena own's the spotlight when he's on top. And yea it's a damm shame that Owens didn't get pushed, and Cesaro isn't getting any attention at all now either.

I'm not sure you know what a gimmick is. He's had the same gimmick for over 10 years. The same John Cena you saw tonight is the same John Cena you saw 10 years ago. Sounds stale to me. He is hogging the spotlight. Why couldn't he put over Owens? Why couldn't he let someone else challenge Rollins for the belt? Because he wants to be the guy and wants the spotlight.
 
Stardust's SummerSlam ring outfit leaked.
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Remember when this was an organic storyline and not a branded idea that they spend hours trying to get trending?
 
I'm not sure you know what a gimmick is. He's had the same gimmick for over 10 years. The same John Cena you saw tonight is the same John Cena you saw 10 years ago. Sounds stale to me. He is hogging the spotlight. Why couldn't he put over Owens? Why couldn't he let someone else challenge Rollins for the belt? Because he wants to be the guy and wants the spotlight.

Cena did put Owens over.
Cena doesn't make booking decisions.
Cena has helped make many guys look great in the spotlight.
 
I'm not sure you know what a gimmick is. He's had the same gimmick for over 10 years. The same John Cena you saw tonight is the same John Cena you saw 10 years ago. Sounds stale to me. He is hogging the spotlight. Why couldn't he put over Owens? Why couldn't he let someone else challenge Rollins for the belt? Because he wants to be the guy and wants the spotlight.

Can you link us to any reports where Cena has taken over the company or even taken a position with creative? I know he has pull but he isn't the end all say all.

I however can share many links which prove you're a total mark. Actually all anyone needs to do is click on any thread you've posted in and it is very clear.
 
I'm not sure you know what a gimmick is. He's had the same gimmick for over 10 years. The same John Cena you saw tonight is the same John Cena you saw 10 years ago. Sounds stale to me. He is hogging the spotlight. Why couldn't he put over Owens? Why couldn't he let someone else challenge Rollins for the belt? Because he wants to be the guy and wants the spotlight.

This is a blatantly false statement. John Cena's character has clearly evolved over time, but because he hasn't turned heel simpletons like yourself fail to realize that. Probably because you're either stupid or willfully ignorant.

Back in 2005 John Cena beat JBL for the Title. He was still doing the rapper gimmick, and he was the working class underdog from "the streets." He was booked as more of an anti-hero. Cena continued to fight the establishment when he moved the RAW and feuded with Bischoff in a rip-off of Austin/McMahon. The point was Cena was anti-establishment. Then the rapping thing went away and he became less of an anti-hero and more of a hero. He became the prototypical babyface, overcoming the odds, standing up for his principles, doing the right thing. The fans really resented this, they didn't like him as a typical good guy, and he started getting a lot of heat along with a lot of cheers. So from here he evolved into the modern version of Superman which is a guy that does the right thing and stands up for his values, even when people hate him for it. This was interesting because it was something that had never really been done in wrestling before. People were encouraged both to cheer and boo the top guy and it created a cool dynamic in his matches. Now he has become the franchise of WWE, and in many feuds he sort of represents the establishment. This is almost a complete 180 from the anti-hero guy from the streets we saw when he first broke through.

So you're wrong. His character has changed a lot.
 
Owens is facing god damn Randy Orton tonight. Let's put the "Owens isn't getting pushed" theory to bed folks.
 

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