Owens Attacks Cena!

[TheICChampion]

Thing is, other than his gut the guy looks pretty decent, unfortunately that's probably not good enough for Vinnie Mac, and as Navi said that might contribute to Owens being sunk before he even makes it to the main roster.

 

[King502]

There are a lot of successful over weight wrestlers ex dusty rhodes samoa joe bray Wyatt I think KO will do great it's good being different

 

[shafe_41]

Did you bitch and complain like this about Rikishi? Yokozuna? Mark Henry? Dusty Rhodes? Mick Foley? Probably not. Owens is fine. Let. It. Go.

 

[Papa Pillman]

First Owens is far more than "above average" in the ring.

Also why is his gut such a focus? We don't have threads on the forum discussing Wyatt's gut.

Honestly Kevin has gotten in better shape since reaching the performance center. He appears to have dropped a few pounds, and he has also put on some muscle in his arms. A past with knee issues contributed to his physique and at this point cutting the gut out completely isn't likely in the cards, but as long as his cardio is fine(and it is excellent), and he moves well in the ring(which he clearly does), then it really shouldn't be an issue.

If Foley could get over the way he did at his size, Owens, who has all of the same intangible qualities that Foley had, should be just fine. He still looks like a guy who could kick some ass, so I don't see where the problem is. Especially when legit fight sport athletes, like Roy Nelson for example, have shown that as long as your weight doesn't reflect on your cardio then it is really a non-issue.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

There are a lot of successful over weight wrestlers ex dusty rhodes samoa joe bray Wyatt I think KO will do great it's good being different

I get all that. I'm not saying that it will keep him from succeeding. And I'm actually pulling for him. He's got a natural sarcastic heel thing going that can't be taught. He doesn't sound like a script-memorizer.

I haven't seen a whole lot of him and my main point is that he has an odd appearance because his stomach looks like it belongs on a different body. As someone else pointed out, he's not really "out of shape" except for that. Bull Dempsey makes Owens look like Rick Rude.

Yes, I'm overanalyzing a wrestler's appearance. Which is not any less valid of a topic than overanalyzing their name, entrance music, finishing move, or anything else that gets dissected on wrestling boards.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

Did you bitch and complain like this about Rikishi? Yokozuna? Mark Henry? Dusty Rhodes? Mick Foley? Probably not. Owens is fine. Let. It. Go.

Well, since you mentioned it.

Owens is 6 feet tall and 260 pounds.

Rikishi: 6'1 425 lbs.
Yokozuna: 6'4 550 lbs.
Mark Henry: 6'4 400 lbs.

Those guys were MONSTERS. So there is no comparison. Totally different appearance and impact.

Dusty Rhodes: Someone with his body would not be a star today like he was in the 70's and 80's.

Foley: Much better comparison, but he was closer to 300 pounds, was a few inches taller, and the weight was more evenly distributed. He didn't have a visible gut jutting out from an otherwise "normal" body.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I don't even watch WWE, and I haven't seen a lick of what Steen's done with the company, but I came here to post a couple things I think can clear up this OP...

OK, more than a couple, but I think I've effectively made the only point that needs to be made here.

So long as he can move that medicine ball, your focus is on all the wrong things.

 

[PeterSellersSTL]

I like diversity across the board, helps keep people unique. Nobody looked like anybody else on the attitude roster. then ruthless aggression came around and we got a bunch of calvin klein models.

Got no problem with Owens gut.

 

[boywithbluehanger]

Foley: Much better comparison, but he was closer to 300 pounds, was a few inches taller, and the weight was more evenly distributed. He didn't have a visible gut jutting out from an otherwise "normal" body.

I agreed with your other two examples but this one just sounds like you're reaching. Mick Foley had an unimpressive physique, was overweight, and probably not considered stereotypically or cosmetically attractive by most females. The names that were brought up, were to shed light on the fact that many guys can have long, eventful, careers with the company or moderately lengthy careers with various championship reigns and/or lots of TV time. Owens is no exception to this due to his physique.

However I will agree with you if the only point you're trying to make is that he'll have an uphill battle trying to make it far in the company with his physique being part to blame.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

I don't even watch WWE, and I haven't seen a lick of what Steen's done with the company, but I came here to post a couple things I think can clear up this OP...

These guys who insist on still calling him Steen.
Very rebellious by not acknowledging his WWE-given name.

Go back and read my last response regarding some of the guys whose pic you posted.

And if you don't watch WWE, and haven't seen what "Steen" has done with the company, why are you ON a WWE forum and IN a thread ABOUT "Steen"?

 

[laodaron]

Well, now that everyone has exhausted the ENTIRE list of overweight wrestlers that made it big, we can all agree on one thing: Kevin Owens (Steen) isn't even in the same category as them.

And believe it not, Indy Marks, physical appearance REALLY matters in performance art. I wouldn't make a movie staring a 4'11 guy as a starting lineman for the Chicago Bears. I wouldn't let a 12 year old draw with crayons to star as a Optimus Prime in a new Transformer movie, and a fat out of shape turd isn't believable as a superstar. If he was 6'8 and weighed 486 lbs, I'd buy it. I buy Big Show as a champ. I buy Kane as a champ. I buy Bubba Ray as a champ. But a smallish guy with a giant fat "I don't care about myself or my craft enough to do a fucking situp" gut isn't believable.

Get over yourselves and understand that not everyone cares about Kevin Steen and his sloppy wrestling before he became Kevin Owens.

 

[OYDK]

Is... is this a real thread? A thread on Kevin Owens friggin stomach?

Please people, just get the hell over it. "Oh no, Kevin Owens is fat. I hate him because he's fat. He won't be a big star even though he can wrestle and work the mic... why? Because he's fat." Why in the fuck do people care so much about somebodies physical stature? If the argument was, "Kevin Owens weight is holding him back from being a great wrestler" than I could understand it, but it's not. OP even mentions the fact that Owens is great on the mic and good in the ring. So what's the problem? The fact that the guy has a gut? Give me a break.

 

[conici]

Yes it does look a tad off but really I and you and everyone really shouldn't give a flying fuck if he has a stomach the guy is a natural heel who can really go in the ring and he ripped Cena a new one on the mic on raw while laying him out yet you talk about his stomach?

Come on, man. This is pretty fucking pointless

 

[Kamala316]

#1 - It's refreshing to see someone with a "different" look.
#2 - Owens is physical, and at times, unorthodox in his moveset.
#3 - Face it: In today's WWE, the only thing you need to be able to do is talk. Raw is 3 hours, you're lucky to see 40 minutes of wrestling in the whole show.

Someone buy him another cheeseburger.

 

[Papa Pillman]

Well, now that everyone has exhausted the ENTIRE list of overweight wrestlers that made it big, we can all agree on one thing: Kevin Owens (Steen) isn't even in the same category as them.

Right.

Because he is much better than most of them.

But a smallish guy with a giant fat "I don't care about myself or my craft enough to do a fucking situp" gut isn't believable.

6'0'' 245 lbs. hardly qualifies as "smallish".

Is he built like Cena? Of course not. But he hardly looks dwarfed over or physically outmatched when standing face-to-face with him.

Get over yourselves and understand that not everyone cares about Kevin Steen and his sloppy wrestling before he became Kevin Owens.

Get out of here with this troll ass bullshit. At least the ignorant things that come from your dumbass posts provide a bit of comedy for those of us who actually have a clue.

 

[Captain Trips]

I don't see what all the fuss is about with the weight loss issue. As long as the performer can entertain me then I am satisfied.

The same goes with Samoa Joe. I keep seeing comments about how he should lose some weight. Guys like Joe & Owens don't need to change there physique in any way. The are great wrestlers as is.

Of course, Vinnie Mac might not share my opinion.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

Who honestly gives a shit? So long as the guy plays his character well(which Owens does) and can put on entertaining matches(again Owens does) I have no issue what he looks like.

Chris Masters was built like a Greek god and he bored the shit out of most people. Lex Luger was chiseled from stone and no one gave two squirts of piss about him the majority of his career.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I just need to buy what he is selling. I didn't buy the pop up power bomb and it's effect on Cena. I'm skeptical that he will be able to look convincing against larger and healthier competition with a brawling and power style of wrestling.

His dull eyes are his naturally biggest problem. He has to get that surgery that makes his eyes look bigger when they are open. And then he should get hair transplanted from his ass to the left side of his face where his mustache isn't growing in to his beard as well as the right side. Plus why the hell is he wearing a sleeveless shirt, shorts, and tights? Is he trying to be funny? Did he just come from Pilate's class?

 

[Navi]

Thing is, other than his gut the guy looks pretty decent, unfortunately that's probably not good enough for Vinnie Mac, and as Navi said that might contribute to Owens being sunk before he even makes it to the main roster.

Maybe I should have made myself clearer. I wasn't insinuating that McMahon would sink him, it was the fans who seem to have issues. Which quite honestly is unbelievable.

Here's a guy with a crapload of experience, great in ring and on the mic, and some are focused on the fact he has a beer belly. Well whoopie do, he has a gut. The day it stops him from doing what he does best, which is run through other wrestlers's like a freight train, then yea. Until then, he's one of the best natural heels ever, and he can back it up in a fight. Wyatt to me is all talk, Owens is talking is over let's get it on.

 

[MrHashasheen]

Luger was chiseled from stone and no one gave two squirts of piss about him the majority of his career.

Hey, let's not get too carried away.

On topic: I find Owen's physique distracting. It's not that he's fat (a lot of guys are fat), but rather it's how he carries it and himself. When he came down the ramp he looked like a pregnant woman trying to not fall over. Compare to say Dempsey or Bray, who have their shoulders hunched a little, are stalking rather than striding... and it just comes across better. Owens legit looks like a lumberjack off to cut down some trees, eat some pancakes and drink some coffee from Tim Hortons.

 

[Joseph718YaHurd]

Honestly who cares what a Wrestler should look like ? There shouldn't be any bias .. If he can go in the ring what does it matter ? Have you ever seen a man of that size doing the sort of moves that he does ? Besides the likes of people like Samoa Joe , who is rumored to be in Talks with WWE ... Both GREAT talents , and both are on the Chubbier side ... Switch it up from time to time , not everybody wants to see two muscle heads pummeling each other , I wanna see variety ! I Wanna see 250 lbs + men doing running sentons !

 

[hacksawrowdyhogan]

Wwe notices too. That is why he looks like the fat guy embarrassed to go swimming without his shirt.

Comparing him to some of these others is silly. He has a slender build with a ridiculous gut.

 

[fenderjapan]

I don't think anyone would care about Kevin Steen/Owens if he didn't have an atypical build, I don't even think he would have been as big an indy player if it wasn't for his build. It's been part of whats gotten him to where he is. Will it hold him back going forward? Maybe, but he wouldn't be here if he didn't have the look he did.

 

[Vanilla Midget]

Vince, is that you? Tired old jokes out of the way; I knew squat about Owens before debut other than Steen was a big deal in the indies. I saw him for the first time on Takeover and I noticed the physique too, but then I watched him wrestle, wait, what is this thread about?

WWE needs guys that live and breathe wrestling, not guys that look like they should be wrestlers. If you're watching wrestling for the stomachs, you might be doing it wrong. If you had to have abs to be worth a damn in the wrestling business, Wade Barrett might have been World Champ by now.

If the big guys never got a chance there would never have been Mick foley, Yokozuna, Dusty Rhodes, or others. What about Bray Wyatt?

Has the thread poster seen an Owens match? Why is this a discussion?

 

[Bernkastel]

Kevin Owens is fat as fuck, who cares? Do you know who else was a big fat fatty? Vader. Nobody cared. Why? Because he was tough, strong, resilient, and hellaciouslly agile. Owens is the same way. In preparation for viewing his match with Cena I went back and watched some of his Indy stuff, because I know fuck all about Kevin Steen, and the guy's legit. He certainly lives up to the hype. And if he brings even a quarter of his quality that I have seen from his matches in NXT, then he and Cena will have an instant classic and a show stealer at EC. And that's all that matters.

If Kevin Owens offends you with his fatness then it's probably some deeper seeded psychological issue that you have, because Owen's weight certainly has not hindered his performances.