Owen Hart WWE Legacy and HOF consideration?

[jacdnwarrior]

@therockiswwf

Do we have to go on back and forth like this forever ? Owen fell from a very high level struck his head against the turnbuckle (if I'm not mistaken) and fell into the ring. Just his blood in the ring would have been enough for me to say that it shouldn't continue. Let's also be reall about the time. The information I've seen (may or may not be true) Owen was less than thrilled with staying with WWE after the Montreal Screwjob but he was obligated due to his contract, which he couldn't get out of. He refused to do a number of angles because he felt it would be disrespectful to his family. As punishment he's put back in the Blue Blazer outfit. The stunt went wrong. Vince didn't want to see Owen fall to his death. He may have panicked. That being said, I completely disagree with Vince for continuing the ppv even after he knew Owen had died, kept it from the audience at home or in the stadium and made the performers work knowing that he had passed on in the very same ring Owen died in.

I notice you didn't answer any of my examples I mentioned in that post. I saw a newstory about an umpire collapsing at a MLB baseball game and subsequently dying. They stopped the game. They weren't doctors and they weren't certain about whether he was dead or alive. Hank Gathers collapses on the basketball court. They stopped the game. You think those people knew they would die ? No, they didn't, but they stopped it anyway. You think they didn't lose money ? Of course they did. They stopped it anyway. So hindsight isn't the issue, some fucking compassion for another human and the man's family is. Now people are blasting his widow for not wanting to associate with him, gimme a fucking break. She and their children live with the consequences of Owen's death and if they choose to not associate with the company, that's her right. I think he should be in the HoF and a dvd made, but I'm not going to trash her for not doing it. That's her decision to make not mine, Bret's or any one else's.

 

[therockiswwf]

@therockiswwf

Do we have to go on back and forth like this forever ? Owen fell from a very high level struck his head against the turnbuckle (if I'm not mistaken) and fell into the ring. Just his blood in the ring would have been enough for me to say that it shouldn't continue.

Um we have only done this in two threads.

He hit the ring ropes (I think) and flipped into the ring. I don't know if there was actually any blood.

As punishment he's put back in the Blue Blazer outfit. The stunt went wrong. Vince didn't want to see Owen fall to his death. He may have panicked. That being said, I completely disagree with Vince for continuing the ppv even after he knew Owen had died, kept it from the audience at home or in the stadium and made the performers work knowing that he had passed on in the very same ring Owen died in.

But the point I was trying to make was, we have no idea what was going through Vince's head or what people where telling him. Owen didn't die right away. I think they re-started before he died.

I notice you didn't answer any of my examples I mentioned in that post. I saw a newstory about an umpire collapsing at a MLB baseball game and subsequently dying. They stopped the game. They weren't doctors and they weren't certain about whether he was dead or alive. Hank Gathers collapses on the basketball court. They stopped the game. You think those people knew they would die ? No, they didn't, but they stopped it anyway. You think they didn't lose money ? Of course they did. They stopped it anyway. So hindsight isn't the issue, some fucking compassion for another human and the man's family is. Now people are blasting his widow for not wanting to associate with him, gimme a fucking break. She and their children live with the consequences of Owen's death and if they choose to not associate with the company, that's her right. I think he should be in the HoF and a dvd made, but I'm not going to trash her for not doing it. That's her decision to make not mine, Bret's or any one else's.

Im not trashing her either. But I think Bret is more right here. And I didn't answer your examples because my main point was why Vince continued the PPV. He was wrong to do it, he shouldn't have done, there is no defending it, but we don't know what was going on with Vince at the time. He panicked and he was wrong. That was my point.

 

[slimymeteor]

He hit the ring ropes (I think) and flipped into the ring. I don't know if there was actually any blood.

I was watching the PPV live, and there was indeed a very large bloodstain on the side of the ring where he fell. The camera often tried to shoot around it which just made it more noticeable. It's kind of sickening even telling the cameraman to just crop out the bloodstain and go "dum de dum" like nothing happened.

 

[The Crock]

It's not Owen's fault Martha is obsessed with destroying the WWE. You'd think she would let it go at some point, but she doesn't. Bret himself criticized her, saying that Owen deserves his recognition, but she doesn't see it that way. Sure, losing your husband is very difficult, but Owen loved wrestling. Let him be recognized for his accolades, let people remember what an AMAZING performer he was.

In the end though, I can see Owen getting into the Hall of Fame. Just based on the fact that he was truly one of the best, he deserves to get in, but the amount of support he would have is astounding. I hope that the WWE and Martha can set aside their differences, actually, I hope Martha drops whatever issue she has, because the WWE has been very fair to her. Owen deserves to be remembered, Owen Hart is a TRUE Hall of Famer.