Well, another point which I think hasn't been mentioned is that TNA can use these older guys to actually push their younger talent? Putting the original TNA guys over the older talent would benefit both ways - pushing original talent and getting ratings from older talent.
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WhatCripplesTheLegend?
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Change is always a good thing. Enough said. If TNA didn't exist, Rhyno might never have gotten another chance.....and that is a fucking shame!! Not that I'm some huge Rhino mark or anything but this guy was the fucking man in the original ECW...then WWE takes him waters him down to shit and fires him on the eve of his family leaving him....fuck that is some rape if i ever heard it. So god bless the TNA for being around to give these guys the possible ressurections they deserve. On that note I would love to see 2ColdScorpio back on televison. I am indeed a big 2cold mark and this guy's best opportunitys in WWE were as "flash funk" and as a part of the job squad. I would tune into TNA to watch him alone.
I wouldn't mind seeing Booker T in TNA either...I mean when was the last time you saw him do his Houston Hangover? Or did you ever see Kurt Angle do a front flip from the top before? No...TNA's lack of a banned moves list gives more than enough reason for wasted WWE talent to take a shot.
Imagin the motor city machine guns vs. Team Extreme? That would be bliss.
And I mean you can hold the stern pointing finger for too long at TNA, come on, they know whats up. They fired Test after all right? Don't act like they don't know what's up.
Change and opportunity are positive, Tna's product is positive and exciting, these things will harmonize no worries.
Cheers all.
I wouldn't mind seeing Booker T in TNA either...I mean when was the last time you saw him do his Houston Hangover? Or did you ever see Kurt Angle do a front flip from the top before? No...TNA's lack of a banned moves list gives more than enough reason for wasted WWE talent to take a shot.
Imagin the motor city machine guns vs. Team Extreme? That would be bliss.
And I mean you can hold the stern pointing finger for too long at TNA, come on, they know whats up. They fired Test after all right? Don't act like they don't know what's up.
Change and opportunity are positive, Tna's product is positive and exciting, these things will harmonize no worries.
Cheers all.
LOl, apparently that "two hours means more X division" was a load of BS.
This is a mistake by TNA. They already have a plethora of talented wrestlers, and yet they're still going the route of "let's call every former WWE/WCW wrestler, who's phone hasn't been disconnected yet, and get him in here for a push". It's stupid. It's the exact reason they're going to lose all of the more talented guys like Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, LAX, and everyone else who they've dropped like a rock. Truly the only guy they should bring in is Booker, and I only want to see him because WWE were idiots for letting him go.
For those of you who think this is a good idea, tell me this, did the ratings shoot through the roof when they brought in that fatass rikishi and that hack Matt Morgan (not to mention the short lived run of Andrew "I love roids!" MArtin? No. So what makes you think Brian Christopher, a has been like Hall, or some of these other losers are really gonna' bring up ratings?
Stupid idea anyway you look at it
This is a mistake by TNA. They already have a plethora of talented wrestlers, and yet they're still going the route of "let's call every former WWE/WCW wrestler, who's phone hasn't been disconnected yet, and get him in here for a push". It's stupid. It's the exact reason they're going to lose all of the more talented guys like Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, LAX, and everyone else who they've dropped like a rock. Truly the only guy they should bring in is Booker, and I only want to see him because WWE were idiots for letting him go.
For those of you who think this is a good idea, tell me this, did the ratings shoot through the roof when they brought in that fatass rikishi and that hack Matt Morgan (not to mention the short lived run of Andrew "I love roids!" MArtin? No. So what makes you think Brian Christopher, a has been like Hall, or some of these other losers are really gonna' bring up ratings?
Stupid idea anyway you look at it
Afro-Ameri-Spawn
Houston's Hometown Hero
Dude, youa re the only ohter person than me who has said that they want to see rob Conway in TNA. I can see it now.... a tag team or faction featuring Robert Roode, Conway, and either Silvan or the REAL Nick Dinsmore? It would kick ass and launch Roode to the top title picture.
the problem is that ppl think that every new guy coming in will get a push, thats not the case this time, TNA is just looking to expand their roster with more known names, it doesnt mean the original talent will be put behind, does any1 here even watch TNA? does any1 not see how they're already pushing LAX, MCMG, aj & tomko, abyss, samoa joe... seriously, if some1 doesnt have the belt on them every1 thinks they're holding the guy back, i guess not every1 understands a good push...
if these guys can wrestle, who cares? many of them can, just because they came from WWE doesnt mean they cant compete with some guys in TNA.. geez... TNA already told the unhappy guys who wanted to leave could, since many of them are still around im guessing they noticed they will get some good pushes
any1 who still thinks TNA is just putting their original talent in the back is just blind.. no offense... and WWE almost never pushes who is actually good or who the fans want, and yet TNA gets bashed 20x more than WWE.. i guess loyalty makes a big difference...?
if these guys can wrestle, who cares? many of them can, just because they came from WWE doesnt mean they cant compete with some guys in TNA.. geez... TNA already told the unhappy guys who wanted to leave could, since many of them are still around im guessing they noticed they will get some good pushes
any1 who still thinks TNA is just putting their original talent in the back is just blind.. no offense... and WWE almost never pushes who is actually good or who the fans want, and yet TNA gets bashed 20x more than WWE.. i guess loyalty makes a big difference...?
zackbluedevil
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haha every one needs to stop fucking complaining
cause i think all these guys will make Tna better
and ill even start watching it more
and if scotty 2 hottie and Grandmaster sexy come back it helps the tag team division and Booker T can win the Tna world title and he deserves a good push which WWE didn't t really give him
and RVd too
and the other six there talking too are also good
and plus they need jobs too people to live there life like us
so stop talking shit cause if it was u trying to get a job with tna
it be different
cause i think all these guys will make Tna better
and ill even start watching it more
and if scotty 2 hottie and Grandmaster sexy come back it helps the tag team division and Booker T can win the Tna world title and he deserves a good push which WWE didn't t really give him
and RVd too
and the other six there talking too are also good
and plus they need jobs too people to live there life like us
so stop talking shit cause if it was u trying to get a job with tna
it be different
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i hope not if booker was to go to TNA i would want him the old WCW booker not WWE style that sucked so much ars
Afro-Ameri-Spawn
Houston's Hometown Hero
Actually he woul dhave no choice but to go back to a previous gimmick. I think that he owns the rights to both the Booker T and the G.I. Bro gimmicks. But as far as doing the whole WWE thing, he would not be able to. And he used the Booker T gimmick long before WWE, so he woul dhave legal rights to it if WWE tried to use for copyright.
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King Booker was his best gimmick in my opinion. WCW was a joke, especially when they called him Booker and he came out to Leave it to Beaver music. But oh ho David Arquette to TNA to be managed by Johnny Fairplay. Lol what's happened to wrestling haha.
Crippler4ever
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No Booker T please.. lol.. especially not as the TNA Champ.. *bleh*
RVD is really the only fit i like.. If they do get RVD i wish they would throw him in the X division at first then he can be a world title contender later on.. Imagine RVD in a feud with Styles? OMG!!
I'm a fan of wrestling plain and simple.. i can see why they wanna expand there roster but you see i just want to see Daniels, Styles, Williams, other X division stars etc. I miss the old days and i just want it back
Bringing in all these former WWE guys kinda brings TNA down IMO. I don't mind it if there talented in the ring.. but Booker is washed up, Tomko, Morgan, Rikishi, Team 3d, all suck. I just want good matches and want to see MORE of Styles, Daniels, Williams, Shelly, Sabin.. etc. not let them SHARE there show that they built with WWE rejects thats all.
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I'm a little lost for words here. I mean they bring in Christian Cage, DUI Kurt Angle and Sting nonetheless and still the ratings don't improve. Now they're looking to bringing these guys in... I mean it's a bad rip off of the Attitude Era and it's sickening. What about guys like AJ Styles, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley... how about them?
...umm, you DO realize Sean Waltman is the only wrestler in that group from the attitude era, right? All those other guys either were in WCW at the time, or debuted after.
Look folks, I worry that they'll end up burying (and driving away) the really talented fellows that have been there since the beginning (so far, it's only been lesser-knowns and no-talents they've lost, and they brought Smiley back, so even THAT'S not permanent), but if they bring in the older, established wrestlers (i.e., Booker and RVD) to boost ratings and put the younger guys over, and repackage and improve the newer imports (as they've done with Mercury and Swinger), I see it as an all-around improvement.
One other thing, you all DO realize nothing's permanent, right? Wrestlers will come and wrestlers will go; as new guys come in, Joe will go to RoH or to Japan, I imagine Tomko will eventually return to Japan (he seems happier there), Styles will (regretably) eventually go back to RoH. It's all cyclic. There's a handful of wrestlers that are ever-faithful to the WWE; all the rest you'll see more than once in TNA.
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Too Cool will not help the tag team division....thre tag team division is good as is with 3D, MCMG, LAX, XXX, Tomko and Styles, and VKM(although they suck) and if i have to see another worm in my life time as a finishing move i will flip.
TNA doesn't need WWE rejects and washed up talent.
TNA made there name off of the X-Division and being an actual alternative to the WWE. It's plain as day, as soon as TNA started going down the sports entertainment road and hiring the WWE rejects ratings have gone down and the match quality has gone down too. Spike TV gave them a few extra fans, but the fans they had before have turned TNA off.
A 2 hour time slot doesn't mean anything if they don't change there booking. It's just an extra hour of crap. Hiring WWE rejects won't do anything for TNA. Each reject will bring in maybe a handful of fans, if that. It's just a waste of money for TNA.
They also need to get out of Orlando. An Impact taping is free! Go back to Nashville and charge fans to watch Impact live and have Impact air live. I'm sure spoilers all over the internet aren't helping fans tune in. I actually believe someone already mentioned that in this thread too.
TNA made there name off of the X-Division and being an actual alternative to the WWE. It's plain as day, as soon as TNA started going down the sports entertainment road and hiring the WWE rejects ratings have gone down and the match quality has gone down too. Spike TV gave them a few extra fans, but the fans they had before have turned TNA off.
A 2 hour time slot doesn't mean anything if they don't change there booking. It's just an extra hour of crap. Hiring WWE rejects won't do anything for TNA. Each reject will bring in maybe a handful of fans, if that. It's just a waste of money for TNA.
They also need to get out of Orlando. An Impact taping is free! Go back to Nashville and charge fans to watch Impact live and have Impact air live. I'm sure spoilers all over the internet aren't helping fans tune in. I actually believe someone already mentioned that in this thread too.
yeah and u guys honestly think that if TNA just keeps pushing aj, daniels, lethal, etc they'll get better ratings? they'll be lucky if the ratings stay the same
TNA isnt all about the x division, ppl gotta realize its NOT ROH... its about wrestling, heavyweights, women, crusiers.. its everything, and though i also love the x division i also wanna see the other roster, guys like rhino, chris harris, james storm, robert roode, kurt angle, sting, abyss, and right now they're doing a pretty good job on balancing the matches for every1 to enjoy the show IMO
u guys gotta realize that the ppl who love the x division is a small fanbase and they wont get TNA far, hence why ROH after so many years is just now starting to get their 10 dollar PPVs... and i doubt it will get any bigger, even though i also love ROH i gotta see it as it is...
too much x division will get TNA nowhere, and too much rejects will get TNA nowhere, they need both, and IMO they're doing a pretty good job so far on showing each divisions talents, like i said, samoa joe, LAX, MCMG, jay lethal, and triple X are getting a pretty good push and i doubt in new guy will stop their push, the only thing that will probably happen is a new team/guy in the feud...
TNA isnt all about the x division, ppl gotta realize its NOT ROH... its about wrestling, heavyweights, women, crusiers.. its everything, and though i also love the x division i also wanna see the other roster, guys like rhino, chris harris, james storm, robert roode, kurt angle, sting, abyss, and right now they're doing a pretty good job on balancing the matches for every1 to enjoy the show IMO
u guys gotta realize that the ppl who love the x division is a small fanbase and they wont get TNA far, hence why ROH after so many years is just now starting to get their 10 dollar PPVs... and i doubt it will get any bigger, even though i also love ROH i gotta see it as it is...
too much x division will get TNA nowhere, and too much rejects will get TNA nowhere, they need both, and IMO they're doing a pretty good job so far on showing each divisions talents, like i said, samoa joe, LAX, MCMG, jay lethal, and triple X are getting a pretty good push and i doubt in new guy will stop their push, the only thing that will probably happen is a new team/guy in the feud...
First, who said anything about ROH? ROH chose to do their PPVs now because it isn't going to hurt them financially. ROH has chosen to rise slowly because they don't want to fail. And if you doubt they'll get any bigger than you're blind. The reviews they've gotten on their 1st two PPVs have them as the best PPVs this year. The more publicity they keep getting the bigger and better they will get. And they will continue to make money unlike TNA.
Second, you do reallize it was the X-Division that built TNA. It was the X-Division that was getting praise by everyone for putting on great matches. It was the X-Division that people were tuning in for because no one liked Jeff Jarrett and the heavyweight division.
Third, new guys (rejects) have stopped pushes. Look at Joe, Styles, LAX, MCMG, Williams, Triple X, etc. the list goes on. These were guys on top or higher up, but as soon as Angle, Christian, Tomko, Pacman Jones, & even Sting etc. came in these guys got put aside. Sure they still get tv time, but they aren't where they were. If TNA was smart they would of brought in Rhyno, Christian, and Tomko in and put them in the midcard. What is the point of having rejects beat your own talent? It makes you look weak. Why push the rejects to the moon within their first couple of months? That doesn't make sense. Bring them in and keep them in the midcard until they have "earned" a right to be a TNA main eventer. People will recognize them and watch your program. They don't have to be the stars.
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[/QUOTE] If TNA was smart they would of brought in Rhyno, Christian, and Tomko in and put them in the midcard. What is the point of having rejects beat your own talent? It makes you look weak. Why push the rejects to the moon within their first couple of months? That doesn't make sense. Bring them in and keep them in the midcard until they have "earned" a right to be a TNA main eventer. People will recognize them and watch your program. They don't have to be the stars.[/QUOTE]
The reason these rejects get pushed through the roof is because they only signed the contract with TNA because management promises them huge pushes and title runs. They wouldn't stick them in the midcard. That's why they left WWE in the first place, because they couldn't get past the mid-card level.
The reason these rejects get pushed through the roof is because they only signed the contract with TNA because management promises them huge pushes and title runs. They wouldn't stick them in the midcard. That's why they left WWE in the first place, because they couldn't get past the mid-card level.
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Well Christian is the one exception because if you think about it since he came to TNA he has become one of the best heels in the buisness in my opinion, some people will disagree but i think he has been gold. Rhino also has been good WWE wouldn't let him shine as they did with Christian and Tomko isn't really a main eventer he just hangs out with em.
I know why the rejects are coming to TNA. They were going nowhere in The E. That's obvious. The thing is TNA didn't have to shove them down our throats as soon as they showed up.
These guys can be main eventers in TNA, it just looks stupid bringing in these former WWE guys and having them beat everyone on the TNA roster. It makes TNA look weak. TNA should of brought them into the midcard to start with and have them earn there way to the main event.
It doesn't make sense to have WWE midcard talent, at best to come in and beat all your main eventers, and to have your talent knocked lower on the card. TNA isn't on the E's level and having the E' midcard as your main event shows the whole world they aren't on the E's level. This does nothing to help them and ratings and buyrates have proven that.
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Avymore it doesnt matter about a wrestlers ability,its how they and the promoters can market them and depending on how far theyll let themselves go to get to where they want.Look at all the bigger stars past and present and think of how much wrestling ability they truly have and as opposed to the true wrestlers like backlund and angle and youll see that anymore marketability wins ove wrestling ability in the eyes of promoters
i was talking about ROH because ppl think that TNA should be like only about the x division talents, kinda like most of the matches in ROH, im not saying thats what U said, but its what i hear most of the time from the ''smarks'' of TNA, and im not saying anything bad about ROH, as i also watch their DVDs and PPVs and love it
and yes i do realize that TNA only got where it is because of the x division, i have watched TNA since the beginning, but TNA has never been about only the x division, even though the x division was the main focus at that time, nowadays its not that new incredible thing anymore, and its still a small fanbase that wants to see the x division guys on top, at least for the casual fan, any1 who actually has watched TNA for the last 5 years would love to see these x division guys on top, including me, but it wont make TNA bigger, and yes the big names have helped TNA a lot, ppl dont like to admit it, but TNA is where it is today because of all of the roster, not just the x division
and not every1 is being ''pushed aside'' 2006 was a great year for LAX, sabin and shelly, this year they were a little in the shadows, but now LAX is in the line for another tag team gold and im sure MCMG will be facing them soon, just because they used other talents for like 6 months doesnt mean the original tna talent is being pushed aside, each time will be someones turn to shine, wrestling goes around in circles man, one time someones huge, then they go down a little, the go back up, its happend to every1
samoa joe is getting pushed, hes one of the top dogs in TNA, just because he doesnt have the belt doesnt mean they're not using him, hes been a big focus of TNA for a long time now, they're just building him up more so when he gets the title hes a bigger name than he is now...
Gold_Shadow89
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Tna has a lot of former wwe stars in their roster. some are rejects, but some are not. some of these former stars left on their own terms, so they should not be considered rejects. i for one thing that tna should focus more on their home grown talent rather than past wwf/wwe stars. but hey, tna wants to do what they want and that is to try everything and anything to get their ratings to go up. they can't keep getting 1.2 ratings and it be acceptable to spike tv standards. just look at Sci-Fi with ECW. they get the same type of ratings and Sci-fi was almost gonna drop them.
steelersowns
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I'm fine with the possible superstars coming. i think they might want to talk about how far apart they would debut from each other but it could work. If they had more talent then they could get another TV show, Go live every week and not worry about running out of talent to work with due to vacation time, sudden injury, death, or family issues. I think bringing in Scott Hall will be a hit or miss thing though. I think alot of people might be bored of the whole outsider thing and alot of people would be excited about it.
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I think RVD and Sabu would be good to bring in but personally i dont think TNA needs anymore talent. Yeah okie4s one more WWE guy big as Angle to win oiver some WWE fans but not anymore they need to utilise the talent they have.
ThatEmoDork
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Been waiting for Van Dam to make his debut in TNA for a long time. With his wrestling style, he could be a great addition to the X Division if his move set isn't restricted. And with the many ECW Originals in TNA, if they sign Paul E, they could start an "anti ECW" stable of sorts. He could also be used to put over home grown talent and rookies. I'd like for Van Dam to win the big belt in TNA, but every freaking time a big name joins TNA he gets the belt. Not that they don't deserve it, they've paid their dues. Still, it was a mistake to have Angle break Joe's winning streak.
I hope Van Dam has the rights to his ring name. It would suck if he had to wrestle under Robbie V again.
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