[Official] WWE Rejects To TNA Thread

[hbk rules]

Even if these guys come in and the guys like Styles and mcmg get buried they will go to wwe and make tna look foolish for burying them

 

[kenfuu]

Been waiting for Van Dam to make his debut in TNA for a long time. With his wrestling style, he could be a great addition to the X Division if his move set isn't restricted. And with the many ECW Originals in TNA, if they sign Paul E, they could start an "anti ECW" stable of sorts. He could also be used to put over home grown talent and rookies. I'd like for Van Dam to win the big belt in TNA, but every freaking time a big name joins TNA he gets the belt. Not that they don't deserve it, they've paid their dues. Still, it was a mistake to have Angle break Joe's winning streak.

I hope Van Dam has the rights to his ring name. It would suck if he had to wrestle under Robbie V again.

why would his move set be restricted in TNA? They are allowed to do there moves there its WWE that has the banned move list and yes Van Dam owns the rights to his name.

 

[flairfan2007]

I know why the rejects are coming to TNA. They were going nowhere in The E. That's obvious. The thing is TNA didn't have to shove them down our throats as soon as they showed up.

These guys can be main eventers in TNA, it just looks stupid bringing in these former WWE guys and having them beat everyone on the TNA roster. It makes TNA look weak. TNA should of brought them into the midcard to start with and have them earn there way to the main event.

It doesn't make sense to have WWE midcard talent, at best to come in and beat all your main eventers, and to have your talent knocked lower on the card. TNA isn't on the E's level and having the E' midcard as your main event shows the whole world they aren't on the E's level. This does nothing to help them and ratings and buyrates have proven that.

Give me some examples where WWE mid card tallent has beaten Top TNA stars? And dont say Kurt Angel beating Sting. Kurt is at his peak right now and is one of the current best wrestlers in the business!

 

[mattitude_03]

RVD is the only guy who if i was in TNA management i would be bending over backwards and kissing ass to get him to sign hes the only one who i feel deserves to be in TNA and would fit so well

 

[jaybizzle13]

Honestly, I'm not sure how to take this news. TNA has good, if not great talent. The point has been made before, but they need to be live. No matter if it's at it's at its current time slot on Thursdays or competing with Raw on Monday nights, going live will attract attention. Most fans using sites such as Wrestlezone and the such already know what's going to happen up to one week before it happens. Going live will (possibly) have more people tune in.

As for the talent, you don't wanna bury the mainstays from before. As in sports, the best franchises rely on drafted talent and talent that they made and use free agents to supplement that talent or get free agents that fill a gaping hole in their roster. TNA, for the most part, don't have a gaping hole. Styles, Daniels, Lethal, etc. shouldn't be affected by this. The people most affected by this would be mid-carders like Robert Roode, James Storm, Chris Harris, and the such. But look at the tag team division for an example. Team 3D, the Steiner Brothers, and VKM, it seems, dominate the tag team division. If they do add Christopher and Scotty 2 Hotty, that's another former WWE tag team that will get at least a semi-push when teams such as the Motor City Machine Guns and Triple X, with all TNA originals, get pushed to the way side. I'm still infuriated at the fact that VKM squashed the MCMG in two minutes.

The point I'm trying to make is, TNA, don't make the same mistakes that WCW made. It pushed former WWF (at the time) stars and featured them in the main event all the time. If Van Dam, Booker, Sabu, Hall, etc are immediately placed in main event feuds, it might send a message to other TNA stars in saying, Oh these guys are better than you.

If done right, this could help bring TNA over the top and into true competition with WWE and not comparing ratings to WWECW. If not, then we could see the new WCW and a self-implosion.

 

[evdogg311]

Ya know, it used to bother me when former WWE stars would go to TNA. But anymore, I'm welcoming the changes for TNA. They have some good wrestlers on their show, but not all of them, from what I've seen, are exactly great on the mic, which makes the show a bit drab for me. They have several good segments that make it interesting. Now I'm by no means a regular watcher of Impact. But I'm ready for another war. I want something to look forward to every week on RAW. And a reason to stay home on Fri night [til 10] to watch Smackdown. So if that means that TNA has to do what WCW did years ago and pick up all the former WWE talent, then so be it. I'd also like to see RVD as a world champion, and his chances are much greater in Florida.

 

[bigcity]

I sure this has already been said but, with the exception of RVD and Booker, bringing in any of these other guys would be pointless. I would like to see TNA start to and actually follow through with pushing some of "their" guys. Guys like, Robert Roode, Kaz, Storm, Harris, MCMG, Petey Williams, and for God Sake gie Joe the damn championship.

But that would be to much to ask for. So we'll probally see Scotty 2 Hotty, Brian Christopher and 2 Cold Scropio unite to form a new TOO COOL. Or maybe Hall and Nash will get the "band" back together and be the "Old-timers" (not the Outsiders)! Who knows?

 

[dannyman82]

i stopped watchin tna because its not like how it used to be...stop competing with wwe and do what ya did before ya got the major tv deals

 

[lowey84]

My feelings on TNA bringing in former WWE stars is mixed. Its good in a way because we wll know WWE is wasting alot of talent nowadays, and TNA is benifiting in terms of new, respescted talent like Angle, Cage, Team 3D and aparrently RVD, but in dosent look good for origanal talent. TNA seem to be focused on picking up the picecs that WWE dont want, Booker was nothin but a trouble maker backstage, the king gimmick, i feel, only worked when he won KOTR. Sabu was reported to be a handfull backstage aswell. Angle is more or less running the place and with Scott Hall returning and possibly teaming with Nash, and talk of Sean Waltman making a comeback? looks like another WCW all over again in terms of being run by ego's who allways get there own way! If TNA can get RVD in then hats off, it would be huge but how long will he be there, look at fatu for instance, i no he aint no RVD but i think its was a great move for them. 5 mins later he's gone!

 

[DAC666]

I Myself Don't Watch Tna As Mutch As Wwe But From What I've Seen They Could Use Some New Talent. I'm Not Talking About Cage Or Angle,but Rvd Could Make Them Extremely More Popular With Fans. Booker T Also Wouldn't Be Bad If They Drop The Stupid King Thing.

 

[mattitude_03]

I still dont understand why they let Fatu go! I feel he was really good for the company he gave a great crowd repsonse yeah bit annoiyng he askled for more money couldnt he just like compromise with them? I fell that Fatu was a really and possibly apart from Cage and Angle and Team 3D the only decent signing from WWE they have done! Thing is though the more people demand more talent in TNA the more they will get it in and the more TNA stars will suffer.

 

[BMPUNK]

Tna should stay away from wwe guys.look at test,and fatu they were terrible.
booker t is old and slow nowhere near his wcw days.too cool were never good i would stop watching if they came.Sabu is a shadow of his former self every match he was in lately was a botchfest.Joey mercury NAH,Nitro carried that team,RVD is still pretty good he'll probably help with ratings,but how many years does he really have left compared to when he was younger he is very slow,aj styles will make him look ancient. Hall and waltman i would consider just because they are funny.otherwise they should find some new guys and keep the ones they have. Samoa joe is better than damn near everyone in wwe but they dont really push him like they could,abyss is ridicolous with his hand jirations,and growling(his hardcore matches are decent though. AJ styles should be the man i dont care. Cage is boring,his mic skills sound way too rehearsed,and all his moves are boring as hell.Scott steiner's pecs make me wanna vomit i think they are caving in. Robert roode has potential,ron killings is fun to watch,MCM are the best tag team today without a doubt.Steal some guys from japan or roh not wwe.

 

[mattitude_03]

TNA had some tryouts recently didnt they of last month? Hopefully its time to see some new fresh amasing talent on TNA which is what they need and some new talent who can help push thier TNA guys. Im not looking forward to Booker coming to TNA unless hes WCW booker otherwsie i dont want to know! I can see its a good move for more ratings etc but i mean! I think the one guy who TNA needs more than anything is RVD before he grows out of wrestling or goes back to WWE!

 

[BigJeff]

To say the former wwe guys who are in TNA are all wwe rejects is not true. Yes, SOMEof the guys that TNA has that are former wwe stars were fired, but Kurt Angle, Christian, Team 3D and some others REJECTED the wwe contracts so they could go to TNA. What TNA should do is get some factions going with a good mix of older experienced wrestlers with some of the younger lesser known guys.

 

[CM_PunK_]

I think its pointless them bringing in ex WWE's, because of all the former WWE talent, the X and tag team division is less featured, at the end of the day they are doing what WCW did, but they should feature the X div more because that is one of the best aspects in TNA

 

[Rated K for Kennedy... Kennedy!]

I dont think it matters where the guy/girl came from, as long as they make an impact in TNA, I can understand the signings of Angle, Christian and Booker to add marquee value, plus they're guys the fans still want to see and weren't used the best in WWE. I questioned many of their acquisitions, including Tomko at first but his improvement level in Japan is immesurable, I dont see why they need a new partner for him tho, AJ and Tomko are having a nice little run.

Giant Bernard (aka Albert) doesnt bring much that TNA doesnt have in Tomko, Abyss, Messias, Rhyno etc. Not like they need another monster is it?

I think TNA should concentrate on improving their booking style so they know what they're doing with the talent they've got before they hire any new people.

 

[DekuNinja]

I dont think it matters where the guy/girl came from, as long as they make an impact in TNA, I can understand the signings of Angle, Christian and Booker to add marquee value, plus they're guys the fans still want to see and weren't used the best in WWE. I questioned many of their acquisitions, including Tomko at first but his improvement level in Japan is immesurable, I dont see why they need a new partner for him tho, AJ and Tomko are having a nice little run.

Giant Bernard (aka Albert) doesnt bring much that TNA doesnt have in Tomko, Abyss, Messias, Rhyno etc. Not like they need another monster is it?

I think TNA should concentrate on improving their booking style so they know what they're doing with the talent they've got before they hire any new people.

thank god finally someone sees that rejects dont matter btw i aggre with you on the booking thing hire paul heyman as for giant bernard coming down on the aj tomko thing i think tna should have aj and tomko lose the belts to some other team like the mcmgs or the rock and rave infection because aj messed up because if his gimmik acting like a child and tomko coundnt stand him anymore and had a heel turn then bring in gb then aj could find a partnermaybe either a new aqusition or someone already on the roster and feud with gb and tomko and theres a good feud there btw im new so hi

 

[Shocky]

I'll keep this thread open, because it has potential, and I'm sure I'll say something that will piss the AJ fan base off, but Akilles, you need to give us your reason before asking us our opinions if your making a thread.

Anywho, there is no logical way to put the title on AJ Styles. Essentially you're getting a reboot of TNA when TNA got there own titles. Anything before then and the 2 hour impacts essentially never happened. Therefore, AJ Styles is essentially another upper mid carder that needs to pay his dues to get the titles.

My biggest frustration to "loyal" TNA fans is their complete and total disrespect for anyone that comes from another company and "squashes" the homegrown talent. Why is it so unreasonable for talent from a considerably larger, well known company to come in and beat these guys. TNA is not stupid or Naive to think that they are bigger then the WWE, it's just that simple. They know right now they are number two, and two keep a sense of realism, it is completely acceptable for these guys to come in and dominate, like it or not.

Eventually the TNA originals are going to up there game and be better thanks to guys like Cage and Angle, and when they are, they will get there shot and it will be much more gratifying when it happens. Having Styles beat Angle when he is not in Angles league at the moment would be a horrible mistake. If Angle holds that belt for a years time, makes it his own, and someone like Samoa Joe or AJ Styles takes it off of him, people would go nuts and that's how you get someone over to the next level. Not simply passing a belt around like a hot potato to satisfy a vocal minority of the fanbase.

 

[kenfuu]

Well Paul you are right this thread does have potential as I was going to start a similar one myself. To answer the question no it will not happen by Final Resolution.
The character of AJ Styles is very fragile right now and has to be layed out carefully. Recently he's been acting less like a coward in his matches(with the exception of the turkey bowl finals) and has been asserting himself more and more backstage recently.
Now the key comes when its time for him to feud with Christian and how its going right now works, eventually I can see Cage taking Styles out after getting frustrated with him. After that have AJ stay out of action and return at a pay per view and interfere in Cage's match, possibly a Cage v Angle for the title. then at say Lockdown AJ faces Cage in the cage then build AJ vs Angle going into Slamiversary either in the King of the Mountain or change it up a little bit and have the KOTM be for the number one contender's spot. All in all i say that idea would work, it brings AJ back as one of the companies main faces and takes the title off of Angle.

 

[Father:_Polley]

i agree with kenfuu... it's gonna take time. however i see a different route. everyone around him is going to withdraw from him letting him get his ass handed to him. u can see it with tomko (prob bring in giant bernard to replace him). he then snaps and turns on cage for abandoning him in first place and works his way through to angle and cage interferes.

think it's a matter of time before either joe (maybe longer for him now after his outburst) or AJ takes it off angle. yeah, TNA has good talent, but let's be honest...having AJ styles take title of angle is going to b a bigger deal than having him pin christopher daniels. i'm not taking anything away from daniels, but angle has the starpower to help people see the talent TNA has. ex-wwe talent needs the initial push to build the company, but they can then b used to put over the talent already on roster, and bring out the best in them

 

[Bunkyfish]

Not by final resolution... but if any true wrestling fan like me, watched tna from the begining AJ has the name PHENOMENAL 1 for a reason. AJ is now at this point the BEST talker in tna... second best being james storm(my favorite wrestler). Tna is gonna need to take their thumbs out of their ass and start getting homebrew wearing gold. Why do you think wwe got rid of those guys! ANGLE-CAGE-BOOKER-FOGEYS, oops i mean OUTSIDERS. I go to every taping in fl and those guys not only bore me, they bore the rest.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Not by final resolution... but if any true wrestling fan like me, watched tna from the begining AJ has the name PHENOMENAL 1 for a reason. AJ is now at this point the BEST talker in tna... second best being james storm(my favorite wrestler). Tna is gonna need to take their thumbs out of their ass and start getting homebrew wearing gold. Why do you think wwe got rid of those guys! ANGLE-CAGE-BOOKER-FOGEYS, oops i mean OUTSIDERS. I go to every taping in fl and those guys not only bore me, they bore the rest.

That's perhaps the most ridiculous post I've ever read. You obviously didn't read CA's post, otherwise you wouldn't bother to argue in such a manner as that. You say that homebrew need to start wearing gold. Why? Give me any sort of logical reason for that, something specific. I'm fairly certain you can't, as even I cannot think of any and I'm as big a fan of the TNA "homebrew" as any other.

Guys like AJ Styles are very gifted. Right now, AJ is filling the place where he is needed - as the comedy heel. As Angle/Cage's sidekick. It's merely a device to support the two, and to help AJ along with his mic skills. AJ isn't wearing the gold because there are better options currently. You named some of them; Angle, Cage, Booker T, Sting. They're all better candidates because they draw.

I'm sorry, but even I'm finding this difficult to not treat this as another WWE rejects thread. With this in mind, I'm going to have to merge it with the official WWE rejects thread. There was potential, but I'm afraid, like so much TNA talent, it's been wasted.

 

[Flokiyo]

I would hate to see Giant Bernard in TNA because the reason i watch TNA is for the X-Division, and now that Team 3D have the title, it's getting broing with Team 3D facing X-Division guys (P.S: I don't like the new X Division title design), and 2, you have the main eventers now even showing up to events, and were good wrestlers back in the 90's. TNA needs to smarten up and give us what we want. Giant Bernard is not what we want.

 

[Total Impact]

I hate all the WWE Talent in TNA, I mean when I watch TNA, I looking for something different than the WWE. I want to see homegrown TNA talent, hell TNA would still get a 1.0 in ratings without the WWE talent so why do you need them.

If TNA is going to used WWE talent, pull a WCW move, give me something I havent seen the WWE do with them. Be different TNA!

 

[St. Eldor]

For real. TNA, was the best thing to me. I watched TNA and preffered it over WWE in every aspect, except gregory helms, and Mr. Kenedy. But this wwe in tna thing is awkward. I mean ANGLE went there and OF COURSE THEY WOULD GIVE HIM THE BELT. Although if you paid a lot of attention, they piped in sounds of cheering becuase no one liked the fact that he beat out Joe for the title, and the ladder match for it.

As far as booker goes. I read an interview and he is there to push the new guys. He didnt want to be like Kurt and go for the title. He wanted to build the home talent, and get them over and establish them there.