italyanstallyan
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This coupled with my idea about Orton winning both titles at Mania make perfect sense.
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This coupled with my idea about Orton winning both titles at Mania make perfect sense.
Frank White
Dark Match Winner
I completely agree cause in all honesty to me a perfect WWE world is one with an undisputed title. This will also set up a Jericho Orton Feud after mania. along with the Orton HHH feud that will prob never die. Now im pondering cause i read somewhere after Mania DX is reuniting and teaming with John Cena to take on Legacy. Could a newer DX possibly work and feud with Legacy??? im actually excited for these next few weeks
italyanstallyan
Pre-Show Stalwart
Well, If Orton does win both titles it would mean that he is truly on top of the WWE and Steph could be trying to take over the business with him and that'd be a perfect way to do it. Orton could then feud for the WHC on Raw and the WWE Title on SmackDown. He could perhaps expand the Legacy stable to both shows. It really could turn into a major event in WWE history. I don't know if reviving DX would happen though since WWE is trying to go PG.
Frank White
Dark Match Winner
well shawn is PG now he found Jebus i was just curious cause i saw a Raw Promo teaser for after Mania. and u figure if Legacy is going to try to take out Trips hes going to find himself a stable or friend to help and with so many former mates it could go alot of ways you figure Flairs could get involved in a no wrestling way ala JJ Dillion did with the Horseman and Batista hates Orton enough to team back up wit Trips sp lets see Batista the Enforcer Flair the managerial brains Shawn styling and profiling Trips the spokes man and Cena the outsider ( whom eventually gets thrown out ) sounds like a new Horseman lol ( in our dreams right )
I dont see HHH and Undertaker at Wm as some people have speculated. Reason? We saw them already once at Wm and just a month and a half ago on SD. There would be no way for them to sell this match as the match just happened on SD.
I am THRILLED we wont be getting Cena and Orton and Edge HHH at WM! I can see them doing Orton and Edge which I would LOVE to see!
I honestly cant pick an opponent for HHH besides maybe Orton but we have seen that so many times back in 07 and 08.
Cena HHH 3 maybe? MAYBE do HHH and whoever and the winner of MITB (MVP PLEASE) have him cash it in and win the title!
I can see Cena facing the Rock. Austin and Jericho will have a feud, and if Orton faces HHH or Edge then that really leaves Cena out if the other title holder has someone to face, and they are bringing up the "real" feud between Cena and the Rock. This would be HUGE and the ME as far as Im concerned. Bring back Austin AND the Rock there you go, and this way the title matches dont have to be to big.
I am THRILLED we wont be getting Cena and Orton and Edge HHH at WM! I can see them doing Orton and Edge which I would LOVE to see!
I honestly cant pick an opponent for HHH besides maybe Orton but we have seen that so many times back in 07 and 08.
Cena HHH 3 maybe? MAYBE do HHH and whoever and the winner of MITB (MVP PLEASE) have him cash it in and win the title!
I can see Cena facing the Rock. Austin and Jericho will have a feud, and if Orton faces HHH or Edge then that really leaves Cena out if the other title holder has someone to face, and they are bringing up the "real" feud between Cena and the Rock. This would be HUGE and the ME as far as Im concerned. Bring back Austin AND the Rock there you go, and this way the title matches dont have to be to big.
TheGreatSPAMbino
Getting Noticed By Management
Well one thing is for damn sure, No way out shook things the fuck up. People have been talking about how it was originally going to be Orton/cena and HHH/edge. Now people think it will be HHH/Orton and Edge/cena. Well here is TheNextVinceRusso's plan:
HHH vs. Orton makes sense. Stephanie was talking to HHH on the phone last week on raw in that segemnt and now that orton has taken out vince and shane, Triple H will come to Raw to help defend his wife. Orton will obviously use his royal rumble win to challenge HHH and he will guarantee to steph that he will put her husband out of commission to along with her brother and father. Triple H works perfectly with the McMahon feud against orton. So at wrestlemania we see Orton vs. HHH w/stephanie for the WWE Championship.
Cena got robbed in the chamber by the surprise entrant edge. So at WrestleMania he will want a re-match for his world heavyweight title. Therefore we get Cena vs. Edge for the World Heavyweight Title.
Then i think what should happen is on the same night the two winners of these world title matches should compete against each other for the Unidisputed World Championship. I think it is time for us to have one world champ in the wwe and this provides the perfect oppotunity to do that.
Orton would beat HHH because stephanie would betray her husband and shack up with Orton and then Cena would defeat Edge to re claim his title. This sets up Orton vs. Cena for the undisputed title and Orton goes over shocking the world. I would have had HHH vs. Cena for the undisputed belt but thats a match that should be advertised for a pay per view not thrown together as a result of a tournament, plus then stephanie cant betray HHH.
HHH vs. Orton makes sense. Stephanie was talking to HHH on the phone last week on raw in that segemnt and now that orton has taken out vince and shane, Triple H will come to Raw to help defend his wife. Orton will obviously use his royal rumble win to challenge HHH and he will guarantee to steph that he will put her husband out of commission to along with her brother and father. Triple H works perfectly with the McMahon feud against orton. So at wrestlemania we see Orton vs. HHH w/stephanie for the WWE Championship.
Cena got robbed in the chamber by the surprise entrant edge. So at WrestleMania he will want a re-match for his world heavyweight title. Therefore we get Cena vs. Edge for the World Heavyweight Title.
Then i think what should happen is on the same night the two winners of these world title matches should compete against each other for the Unidisputed World Championship. I think it is time for us to have one world champ in the wwe and this provides the perfect oppotunity to do that.
Orton would beat HHH because stephanie would betray her husband and shack up with Orton and then Cena would defeat Edge to re claim his title. This sets up Orton vs. Cena for the undisputed title and Orton goes over shocking the world. I would have had HHH vs. Cena for the undisputed belt but thats a match that should be advertised for a pay per view not thrown together as a result of a tournament, plus then stephanie cant betray HHH.
Wasnt there talk about not having superstars on a specific brand a couple months ago? If there going that route then the above idea with the two winners of the title matches facing each other to make an undisputed champion makes PERFECT sense. I'd love for it to be Edge vs Orton in the final match!
I am still convinced that Cena wont be in a title match and could face the Rock possibly.
I am still convinced that Cena wont be in a title match and could face the Rock possibly.
HHH=The Peoples King
Occasional Pre-Show
Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker
Ref: Stone Cold Steve Austin
Texas ALL stars
Ref: Stone Cold Steve Austin
Texas ALL stars
My mind is still spinning after watching No Way Out last night. The E has gotten just about eveyone i think completely thrown from their ideas of Cena/Orton and HHH/Edge for mania.
To me we will get alot cleared up tonight on raw. We have to. Cena has a rematch clause...will he use it tonight or will he use it at Mania? My opinion is Cena uses it at Mania.
I think Cena will open the show saying he wants Edge and his title back. Steph will say unfortunately Orton won the Rumble so he gets to pick who he wants to face at Mania first. Orton says he will decide at nights end. At the end of the show Orton and Stephanie are in the ring and Orton starts talking about how he put Vince and Shane in the hospital and is continuing to get under the skin of Stephanie until she fianlly slaps him. Orton says something else and she swings again and this time Orton moves out of the wayh and pushes her to the ground. Orton gets the crazy eyes and is preparing to punt her head off and just as he moves in for the punt...."ITS TIME TO PLAY THE GAME" hits and HHH comes out and rolls through Orton and we go off the air with HHH helping Stephanie up. This will give us some idea to mania at the end of raw but will still people guessing into next weeks show which will help ratings.
Next weeks will open with Orton saying he wants HHH at mania. This will allow Cena to get his rematch with Edge.
I dont think anyone is jumping brands right now...why would they with the draft coming up. I think this will allow both HHH and Edge and John Cena and Randy Orton to be on boht shows leading up to Mania to increase the build for both matches.
WrestleMania
Main Event(to end the show) - Edge vs. John Cena
HHH vs. Randy Orton
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
thats about all i can think of for sure right now.
To me we will get alot cleared up tonight on raw. We have to. Cena has a rematch clause...will he use it tonight or will he use it at Mania? My opinion is Cena uses it at Mania.
I think Cena will open the show saying he wants Edge and his title back. Steph will say unfortunately Orton won the Rumble so he gets to pick who he wants to face at Mania first. Orton says he will decide at nights end. At the end of the show Orton and Stephanie are in the ring and Orton starts talking about how he put Vince and Shane in the hospital and is continuing to get under the skin of Stephanie until she fianlly slaps him. Orton says something else and she swings again and this time Orton moves out of the wayh and pushes her to the ground. Orton gets the crazy eyes and is preparing to punt her head off and just as he moves in for the punt...."ITS TIME TO PLAY THE GAME" hits and HHH comes out and rolls through Orton and we go off the air with HHH helping Stephanie up. This will give us some idea to mania at the end of raw but will still people guessing into next weeks show which will help ratings.
Next weeks will open with Orton saying he wants HHH at mania. This will allow Cena to get his rematch with Edge.
I dont think anyone is jumping brands right now...why would they with the draft coming up. I think this will allow both HHH and Edge and John Cena and Randy Orton to be on boht shows leading up to Mania to increase the build for both matches.
WrestleMania
Main Event(to end the show) - Edge vs. John Cena
HHH vs. Randy Orton
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
thats about all i can think of for sure right now.
Yes true we didnt expect Orton vs HHH and Cena vs Edge (assumed) BUT these matches have happened SO SO SO SO SO much in the last 2-3 years. Orton HHH happened less then a year ago more then once. This is no way to sell WM 25. I am leaning toward another swerve where we will not get at least one of these two matches, and probably wont get either of these. WWE is doing this for us to say oh Orton and McMahon feud with HHH coming out to help Stephanie. Why? Because thats a good logic, but they want to throw yet another curve ball which I am almost positive they will.
TheGreatSPAMbino
Getting Noticed By Management
The only other option i can see is a fatal 4 wya elimination match because although one on one matches involving hhh/orton and cena/edge have happened quite a bit these 4 have never all been involved in one match. Putting the two top babayfaces and the two top heels in the ring for one match would be quite the main event although it is unlikely that this will happen. The buildup for a cena vs. edge vs. roton vs. hhh ftaal 4 way would be insane. You have edge whos with vickie, triple h whos with steph and steph feuding with orton, plus you have the number one ababyface cena in there. There are many interesting possibilities coming out of this match.
They could work an angle where edge is cheating on vickie with steph, or maybe orton is secretly with steph who is planning to join legacy. There are so many storylien options that can tie all 4 of these gusy together.
They could work an angle where edge is cheating on vickie with steph, or maybe orton is secretly with steph who is planning to join legacy. There are so many storylien options that can tie all 4 of these gusy together.
TheGreatSPAMbino
Getting Noticed By Management
No it wasnt dummy, i was clearly stating my idea and what i would book for wrestlemania. Its pretty straightforward. Steph is in HHH's corner right...do you follow, but in the match she turns on triple h and costs him the match.are you still with me? A standard swerve in wrestling. Then Stephanie would join the Legacy.
Hmm, things easily have taken a turn after the WWE swerved us with No Way Out. We're where we were back at the end of Night of Champions last year, no champion on Raw and only one way to resolve that problem.
Randy Orton vs. ??? Raw's one last hope at a world champion is decide here. As he is the Rumble winner, I'm guessing his choice is going to have the ramification on which champion moves to Raw. I hihgly, Highly doubt that the WWE is going to go heel vs. heel at Mania, since it's never happened and would make no sense whatsoever.
Randy Orton vs. Triple H (WWE Championship) The protical son returns home to Raw to save us all from the evil Randy Orton. Storyline wise, it makes the most sense. Orton is targetting McMahons, Triple H is married to a McMahon. If you children pay attention, this is the exact same plan that the WWE had for Kennedy during the McBastard storyline, minus the fact that Kennedy completely sucks and couldn't get the needle out of his ass long enough. It's a good story, and now they have a stronger, more believable character to play the heel role. The defining moment is this, Will Triple H's Ego allow him to give up his shining moment at the Silver anniversary of Mania, or will he do the righ thing finally and put over Orton cleanly at Mania and hand the torch to the next generation of Stars.
Now there are a few scenarios the WWE could do for the other title match.
Who would Edge face? Jeff Hardy has a clean victory over edge in the chamber match, so obviously hardy has a claim, but would the WWE give the Brother vs. Brother matchup and potentially keep John Cena out of a title match? Who knows. The Smart money says it's John Cena vs. Edge, but I can't honestly see the WWE moving Cena to Smackdown.
The next lineup would be, Shawn Michaels, the Texas Kid, vs. Edge for the World Heavyweight Championship in Houston. Title vs. Career would be a good move on this one, and a match I would lvoe to see. Either way Edge vs. Cena or Michaels would work for me.
Which brings me to Undertaker vs. ???. It's down to two logical options at this point. Anything other then Taker vs. Michaels or Taker vs. John Cena would be an aggregious mistake by the WWE and one that will leave me scratching my head for years. Michaels vs. Taker would be amazing for obvious reasons that I have spouted out time and time again in this thread alone, while Cena vs. Undertaker adds a completely new dimension to the Streak on the Line storyline. Both men are credible and Strong enough to make people believe the streak is in severe jeopardy, and I would be satisfied with either match happening.
Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy. While the smarkish side of me would love to see something along the lines of ECMJ all in a four way TLC match, my head isn't stuck up my ass and I can see things without smarkcovered lenses on. The Hardy vs. Hardy match would be a perfect match to set the tone of the night and be the show opener, (ala Hart vs. Hart) or it could be the perfect match that goes in between the title matches.
Jericho vs. ???. I'm still saying that Mickey Rourke happens, but if not, we'll be stuck with Ric Flair which would just be awful. There's always the possibility that We'll get Michaels come in to represent the old timers, but that would be a waste of time in my opinion.
Of course you'll have the mandatory bathroom break with some awful Diva match. If it doesn't have Beth Phoenix, I truly don't give a shit.
Money In the Bank. While I'm not going to list off a whose who of spot monkeys dying to be the next WWE champion, I will say one thing. John Morrison or MVP were the two strong picks to win this thing, but after his performance at No Way Out, don't be surprised to see Rey Mysterio throw a huge wrench into those plans.
Randy Orton vs. ??? Raw's one last hope at a world champion is decide here. As he is the Rumble winner, I'm guessing his choice is going to have the ramification on which champion moves to Raw. I hihgly, Highly doubt that the WWE is going to go heel vs. heel at Mania, since it's never happened and would make no sense whatsoever.
Randy Orton vs. Triple H (WWE Championship) The protical son returns home to Raw to save us all from the evil Randy Orton. Storyline wise, it makes the most sense. Orton is targetting McMahons, Triple H is married to a McMahon. If you children pay attention, this is the exact same plan that the WWE had for Kennedy during the McBastard storyline, minus the fact that Kennedy completely sucks and couldn't get the needle out of his ass long enough. It's a good story, and now they have a stronger, more believable character to play the heel role. The defining moment is this, Will Triple H's Ego allow him to give up his shining moment at the Silver anniversary of Mania, or will he do the righ thing finally and put over Orton cleanly at Mania and hand the torch to the next generation of Stars.
Now there are a few scenarios the WWE could do for the other title match.
Who would Edge face? Jeff Hardy has a clean victory over edge in the chamber match, so obviously hardy has a claim, but would the WWE give the Brother vs. Brother matchup and potentially keep John Cena out of a title match? Who knows. The Smart money says it's John Cena vs. Edge, but I can't honestly see the WWE moving Cena to Smackdown.
The next lineup would be, Shawn Michaels, the Texas Kid, vs. Edge for the World Heavyweight Championship in Houston. Title vs. Career would be a good move on this one, and a match I would lvoe to see. Either way Edge vs. Cena or Michaels would work for me.
Which brings me to Undertaker vs. ???. It's down to two logical options at this point. Anything other then Taker vs. Michaels or Taker vs. John Cena would be an aggregious mistake by the WWE and one that will leave me scratching my head for years. Michaels vs. Taker would be amazing for obvious reasons that I have spouted out time and time again in this thread alone, while Cena vs. Undertaker adds a completely new dimension to the Streak on the Line storyline. Both men are credible and Strong enough to make people believe the streak is in severe jeopardy, and I would be satisfied with either match happening.
Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy. While the smarkish side of me would love to see something along the lines of ECMJ all in a four way TLC match, my head isn't stuck up my ass and I can see things without smarkcovered lenses on. The Hardy vs. Hardy match would be a perfect match to set the tone of the night and be the show opener, (ala Hart vs. Hart) or it could be the perfect match that goes in between the title matches.
Jericho vs. ???. I'm still saying that Mickey Rourke happens, but if not, we'll be stuck with Ric Flair which would just be awful. There's always the possibility that We'll get Michaels come in to represent the old timers, but that would be a waste of time in my opinion.
Of course you'll have the mandatory bathroom break with some awful Diva match. If it doesn't have Beth Phoenix, I truly don't give a shit.
Money In the Bank. While I'm not going to list off a whose who of spot monkeys dying to be the next WWE champion, I will say one thing. John Morrison or MVP were the two strong picks to win this thing, but after his performance at No Way Out, don't be surprised to see Rey Mysterio throw a huge wrench into those plans.
I was thinking about the card a little more and, the more I do, the more I wonder if they're going to take an approach we all seem to be missing.
You'd have Orton vs. HHH, Undertaker vs. HBK and Jericho vs. Flair. But! Instead of simply pairing Cena & Edge for the World Title, you have Austin - Cena, as some have speculated will happen. It explains why Cena was taken out of the World Title picture, I mean who's to say they haven't only just got Austin as a lock for the event and Cena going in as World Champion was their backup plan? So if you've those 4 matches, who faces Edge?
The Big Show.
Think about it, they've teased the feud between the two of them since Edge returned. I recall Big Show making a remark eluding to the idea that his 'strictly business' relationship with Vickie was more than just that. It seems odd that they'd place such an emphasis on Show/Edge in the build up to NWO, especially given the other talent in the match. Even if they didn't go with a 'Big Show slept with Edge's wife' storyline, they've still been slowly building that feud up as a possibility. It'd also mean that Edge would stay on SD, with HHH moving to Raw to protect Steph from Orton, probably tonight.
So with that based plus the rest of my previous prediction:
Triple H vs. Randy Orton
Edge vs. Big Show
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold vs. John Cena
Chris Jericho vs. Ric Flair
Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy
Jack Swagger vs. Christian
Some form of Women's Title match
MITB (featuring 8 from Rey, MVP, Kofi, Punk, Bourne, Shelton, JBL, R-Truth, Kane, Carlito, Morrison, Miz, Finlay, Koslov and Kennedy)
Carlito & Primo vs. Morrison & Miz (assuming none are involved with MITB)
As a card, it'd be pretty awesome, even if it doesn't happen in that manner..
You'd have Orton vs. HHH, Undertaker vs. HBK and Jericho vs. Flair. But! Instead of simply pairing Cena & Edge for the World Title, you have Austin - Cena, as some have speculated will happen. It explains why Cena was taken out of the World Title picture, I mean who's to say they haven't only just got Austin as a lock for the event and Cena going in as World Champion was their backup plan? So if you've those 4 matches, who faces Edge?
The Big Show.
Think about it, they've teased the feud between the two of them since Edge returned. I recall Big Show making a remark eluding to the idea that his 'strictly business' relationship with Vickie was more than just that. It seems odd that they'd place such an emphasis on Show/Edge in the build up to NWO, especially given the other talent in the match. Even if they didn't go with a 'Big Show slept with Edge's wife' storyline, they've still been slowly building that feud up as a possibility. It'd also mean that Edge would stay on SD, with HHH moving to Raw to protect Steph from Orton, probably tonight.
So with that based plus the rest of my previous prediction:
Triple H vs. Randy Orton
Edge vs. Big Show
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold vs. John Cena
Chris Jericho vs. Ric Flair
Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy
Jack Swagger vs. Christian
Some form of Women's Title match
MITB (featuring 8 from Rey, MVP, Kofi, Punk, Bourne, Shelton, JBL, R-Truth, Kane, Carlito, Morrison, Miz, Finlay, Koslov and Kennedy)
Carlito & Primo vs. Morrison & Miz (assuming none are involved with MITB)
As a card, it'd be pretty awesome, even if it doesn't happen in that manner..
Edge vs Big Show yes wouldnt be great, BUT BUT BUT it is new and could have a great storyline. We have seen Cena and Edge way to much! Remember Big Show and Floyd Mayweather last year? That was all Big Show doing the hype (GREAT hype IMO), so imagine him and Edge. Hype central!!
I am still going with Jericho vs Austin as I think Flair will never wrestle again (if he does they could make that another angle with Jericho and Michaels, by Jericho laughing at Michaels saying Flair came out of retirement to face Jericho) but I doubt Flair will wrestle again.
HHH vs Orton. Blah blah seen it 3 or 4 times last year. Its old. HOWEVER I could see the winner of the MITB ladder match coming out and cashing in after this match (MVP or Morrison PLEASE!!!!)
As I have said I still see Cena and The Rock. Think of how many curve balls WWE has thrown last year and this year. It could happen. Its almost like JR saying Austin wont wrestle. This has been brought up again by Cena and I think something could happen here.
HBK vs Taker is almost a lock. The fact HBK and JBL ended at NWO, and the staredown with HBK and UT at RR is almost a lock as far as Im concerned.
I am still going with Jericho vs Austin as I think Flair will never wrestle again (if he does they could make that another angle with Jericho and Michaels, by Jericho laughing at Michaels saying Flair came out of retirement to face Jericho) but I doubt Flair will wrestle again.
HHH vs Orton. Blah blah seen it 3 or 4 times last year. Its old. HOWEVER I could see the winner of the MITB ladder match coming out and cashing in after this match (MVP or Morrison PLEASE!!!!)
As I have said I still see Cena and The Rock. Think of how many curve balls WWE has thrown last year and this year. It could happen. Its almost like JR saying Austin wont wrestle. This has been brought up again by Cena and I think something could happen here.
HBK vs Taker is almost a lock. The fact HBK and JBL ended at NWO, and the staredown with HBK and UT at RR is almost a lock as far as Im concerned.
Why Always Me
WWF Champion
In an ideal world the WWE and World Titles would be unified in a Fatal 4 way match, HHH vs. Cena vs. Edge vs. Orton, the winnder is the WWE champion and gets the Undisputed version of the belt.
HBK vs. Taker would be just underneath.
CM Punk vs. Shelton Benjanim to unify the US and IC belts.
The Miz/Morrison vs. The Colons to unify the tag belts.
Diva battle royal to unfiy the womens/divas title.
An Exteme rules match for ECW title (ECW belt now basically the Hardcore title, we all loved that).
Matthew vs. Jeffrey Hardy
AS long as Santino is on the show as well, that would be a good mania, throw some lower/mid card matches in and your good to go.
HBK vs. Taker would be just underneath.
CM Punk vs. Shelton Benjanim to unify the US and IC belts.
The Miz/Morrison vs. The Colons to unify the tag belts.
Diva battle royal to unfiy the womens/divas title.
An Exteme rules match for ECW title (ECW belt now basically the Hardcore title, we all loved that).
Matthew vs. Jeffrey Hardy
AS long as Santino is on the show as well, that would be a good mania, throw some lower/mid card matches in and your good to go.
willieb33cc
The Man with The Plan
My prediction is this:
Edge vs John Cena for the World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H vs Randy Orton for the WWE Championship
Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker
Matt Hardy vs Jeff Hardy in a No DQ Match
Chris Jericho vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
CM Punk vs Rey Mysterio vs Mike Knox vs Kane for the IC Title
Shelton Benjamin vs MVP for the US Title
Jack Swagger vs Christian for the ECW Title
Miz/Morrison vs The Colons, WWE Tag Team Champions vs World Tag Team Champions
MITB: Kofi Kingston vs Jim Duggans vs Finlay vs Evan Bourne vs Big Show vs Mark Henry vs Ken Kennedy vs The Brian Kendrick
Umaga vs Vladimir Kozlov
Edge vs John Cena for the World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H vs Randy Orton for the WWE Championship
Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker
Matt Hardy vs Jeff Hardy in a No DQ Match
Chris Jericho vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
CM Punk vs Rey Mysterio vs Mike Knox vs Kane for the IC Title
Shelton Benjamin vs MVP for the US Title
Jack Swagger vs Christian for the ECW Title
Miz/Morrison vs The Colons, WWE Tag Team Champions vs World Tag Team Champions
MITB: Kofi Kingston vs Jim Duggans vs Finlay vs Evan Bourne vs Big Show vs Mark Henry vs Ken Kennedy vs The Brian Kendrick
Umaga vs Vladimir Kozlov
tyler.durden
Occasional Pre-Show
of the one match that stone cold comes back for, some of u want to see him challenge jericho?? i don't understand this because those two have feuded in the past already. i would much rather see austin take on someone new like cena or orton.
Im more shocked of everyone wanting/expecting both HHH vs Orton and Edge vs Cena to be the two ME at WM25. I DOUBT we will get both these matches that combined we have seen over a dozen (not exagurating) times. I'm guessing only one of these two happenes and it'll prob be Orton vs HHH (sigh still)
Orton will face HHH or Edge cuz he is guaranteed a title shot, so it wont be Orton and Austin.
Edge can face anyone, I'm guessing Big Show?
Cena could face Austin, but with Flair inducting him it makes sense for Austin facing Jericho (Yes they have feuded before but it's been like 8 years).
Taker and HBK have feuded a lot, but its been past the "while ago" mark just like Austin and Jericho. Plus Austin last wrestled 6 years ago so him facing anyone is huge.
Cena and Rock would be better then Cena and Austin IMO and it would not surprise me if the Rock came back to confront Cena in a "real life" feud.
Orton will face HHH or Edge cuz he is guaranteed a title shot, so it wont be Orton and Austin.
Edge can face anyone, I'm guessing Big Show?
Cena could face Austin, but with Flair inducting him it makes sense for Austin facing Jericho (Yes they have feuded before but it's been like 8 years).
Taker and HBK have feuded a lot, but its been past the "while ago" mark just like Austin and Jericho. Plus Austin last wrestled 6 years ago so him facing anyone is huge.
Cena and Rock would be better then Cena and Austin IMO and it would not surprise me if the Rock came back to confront Cena in a "real life" feud.
TheGreatSPAMbino
Getting Noticed By Management
You know what very well could happen...we could be seeing Shawn michaels with ric flair is his corner agaisnt chris jericho. This would actually make a lot of sense.Firstly, jericho vs. michaels was the best feud of 2008 and the history between the two would add a lot of interest to the match in the eyes of the WWE. Secondly, the storyline could be that Shawn Michaels is defending the honor of Ric Flair and would step into the ring on flair's behalf because Flair is retired. Michaels would say how he has respect for flairs career unlike jericho. Also, the WWE likes to be cute and the idea of Flair being in the corner of the man who put him out at wrestlemania would probabaly greatly appeal to them. This match works fucking perfectly which is very scary because it means that wwe will miss out on the Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels opportunity.
Frank White
Dark Match Winner
well unf the WWE has teased a Undertaker Kozlov match think bout it undefeated vs undefeated they think it writes itself but im not a fan of Vladimir at all edge taker streak vs streak was good fuck it was great. Also im not a fan of a shawn taker match at all ive watched these guys fight all through the 90's ( remember Kanes debut ) Takers knee is bad as we can all see from him hobling round the ring. So i think they do a Vlad Takermatch and the streak lives on as this is prob his last Mania as a full time employee. Unless they really want to push Kozlov which i doubt but who knows
manicmania
Dark Match Jobber
Watching Raw, its clear....we are getting taker vs hbk. Amazing.
So heres the card (again)
TRIPLE H VS RANDY ORTON- I LIKE IT MORE THAN ORTON VS CENA
EDGE VS JOHN CENA- I LIKE IT MORE THAN EDGE VS TRIPLE H.
STEVE AUSTIN VS Y2J- I HOPE SO.
TAKER VS HBK- WILL BE THE MATCH OF THE EVENING.
MATT HARDY VS JEFF HARDY- A GIVEN.
MONEY IN THE BANK LADDER MATCH- I HOPE MVP WINS IT.
CHRISTIAN VS SWAGGER- COULD BE REALLY GOOD.
CM PUNK VS JBL- EH
KOZLOV VS BIG SHOW- EH
TRISH VS BETH- FINE.
I LIKE THIS CARD A LOT. DEFINITLEY THE MOST STACKED LINEUP SINCE WM 20.
So heres the card (again)
TRIPLE H VS RANDY ORTON- I LIKE IT MORE THAN ORTON VS CENA
EDGE VS JOHN CENA- I LIKE IT MORE THAN EDGE VS TRIPLE H.
STEVE AUSTIN VS Y2J- I HOPE SO.
TAKER VS HBK- WILL BE THE MATCH OF THE EVENING.
MATT HARDY VS JEFF HARDY- A GIVEN.
MONEY IN THE BANK LADDER MATCH- I HOPE MVP WINS IT.
CHRISTIAN VS SWAGGER- COULD BE REALLY GOOD.
CM PUNK VS JBL- EH
KOZLOV VS BIG SHOW- EH
TRISH VS BETH- FINE.
I LIKE THIS CARD A LOT. DEFINITLEY THE MOST STACKED LINEUP SINCE WM 20.
Kozlov v. Taker would be the worst streak match of all time..I think it was interesting enough having Edge fight Taker, remember Edge did lose his WM streak as well as the title.
I think a lot people might get their wish next week, if HBK beats JBL, then we're gonna see two texans battle it out.
@ManiaManiac: Great card of matches..just scratch the bottom 4 matches
and turn the Hardy match into a ladder match!
I think a lot people might get their wish next week, if HBK beats JBL, then we're gonna see two texans battle it out.
@ManiaManiac: Great card of matches..just scratch the bottom 4 matches
and turn the Hardy match into a ladder match!DAMN IT DAMN IT! That RKO to Steph was sick (One of the best RKO's I've seen), but Orton HHH AGAIN at WM25!?!?!?!?! Couldnt they do all this for a B PPV to possibly increase buy rates for that?
Edge vs Cena again (although I COULD see this happening on SD, but prob not).
You all realize the above matches in the last 2.5 years we have seen over a dozen times (and I am NOT exagurating). If both arent the ME or Sub ME I'll live as the below matches should be
UT vs Shawn Michaels (JBL has a .000000.1% of winning next week). This should be the ME or sub ME
Jericho vs Stone Cold almost seems like it'll happen with him ripping on all the legends so the class leader will challenge him. This SHOULD and I hope is the ME
No mention of MITB besides from Jamie Noble, so I guess that'll happen? If so MVP or Morrison will win
If MITB doesnt happen expect Hardy vs Hardy in a Ladder or TLC match then.
Edge vs Cena again (although I COULD see this happening on SD, but prob not).
You all realize the above matches in the last 2.5 years we have seen over a dozen times (and I am NOT exagurating). If both arent the ME or Sub ME I'll live as the below matches should be
UT vs Shawn Michaels (JBL has a .000000.1% of winning next week). This should be the ME or sub ME
Jericho vs Stone Cold almost seems like it'll happen with him ripping on all the legends so the class leader will challenge him. This SHOULD and I hope is the ME
No mention of MITB besides from Jamie Noble, so I guess that'll happen? If so MVP or Morrison will win
If MITB doesnt happen expect Hardy vs Hardy in a Ladder or TLC match then.