[OFFICIAL] Sheamus as the WWE Champion Thread

[MRA858]

Shaeamus really hasn't impressed me either, Sure he has wrestled not even a handful of matches since winning the title and they werent even good matches, not worth remembering at all. He beat MVP, Borne, Christian, Orton, all that i can remember, and he just shows up and near the end with the title thats all. Put him in a Submission Match see what he can do something give him some more moves instead of a bicycle kick to the head.

 

[JobMeOut2008]

Again, you have missed the point. I'll just spell it out: Sheamus is JUST LIKE JOHN CENA.

This is what I can't comprehend. For months going on years people complain endlessly about John Cena. The WWE throws some monster our way who is actually less charismatic on the whole than Mr. Chain Gang himself and people begin fawning over him. I feel like I am trapped in an Orwell novel. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia, Sheamus has always been world champion.

That being said, Sheamus is doing a fine job, really. He is a heel that people actually jeer, which for the development of a storyline must be helpful. I imagine it is tough to paint the picture of the psychopathic heel willing to injure anyone in his path to attain the gold while the crowd is cheering their faces off for the guy. But, that sort of thing has been happening for ages now. From what I understand, the groundlings at the Globe used to cheer the villains of Shakespeare plays in the 16th century. I suppose fans just feel that a character with some 'dark side' is more well-rounded.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

It appears not everyone is sure what the word "synchronic" means. It means analyzing a phenomenon at one point in time, in other words interpreting the factors of an event with time 'bracketed off.'

I understand that Sheamus had to win last night. He's the WWE champion. Yes it is scripted. Yes he's being built up.

The original poster lauded Sheamus as an exciting wrestler with good mic skills (I am paraphrasing)--he is not. If you don't like the Sheamus/Christian example, let's take one that will get everyone really fired up. Sheamus and Cena. I look at these two, and I see very minute differences. Both our muscled-up powerhouses, both growl and spit and yell before and after promos and matches, both have relatively (would you like counterpoints? Look at Angle and Styles) limited offenses.

Everybody in the WWE has limited offenses. You really think that the moves they perform out there is all that they know? They used limited movesets to prevent injury if nothing else. Besides, it doesn't matter how many moves you do it is how you do them that matters. If you get the crowd excited and performed good matches with limited offense, then why do you need to change it?

Shaeamus really hasn't impressed me either, Sure he has wrestled not even a handful of matches since winning the title and they werent even good matches, not worth remembering at all. He beat MVP, Borne, Christian, Orton, all that i can remember, and he just shows up and near the end with the title thats all. Put him in a Submission Match see what he can do something give him some more moves instead of a bicycle kick to the head.

His match with Orton was decent and his match last night with Christian was very good. Why does he need to be in a Submission match to prove himself? Why does he need more moves period? Was Cena put in a Submission match when he was first made champion? How about Hogan, Austin, or HHH? A wrestler like John Morrison may perform 2000 moves within a match, but if he can't make the crowd care about them, they mean nothing. Sheamus is getting more heat each week and is improving on the mic. He has a solid moveset and his psychology is getting better as well.

 

[JBSMan]

I'm really liking Sheamus now. I was looking forward to him finally being on WWE TV, and at first with some of his promos I was like "Okay, kinda cheesy, but it works", but in the last few weeks his real personality is coming out a bit more, it seems more natural. I couldn't help but laugh when he said "Are ya now?!" to Evan Bourne a few weeks back.

And I'm glad they gave him a clean win over Christian, hopefully it's the start of them building up his credibility.

 

[Ducey13]

I saw Sheamus when he was still down in FCW and heard big things then about him. When He got called up to ECW, I watched him for a few weeks and then i realized I was really enjoying his feud with Goldust. They put on some entertaining matches between themselves on ECW and Superstars with them beating each other each week. His call up to Raw really surprised me but after he won the over the top rope battle I knew he had an outside shot of beating Cena cause it was set up so he didn't have to pin him. Anyways, I've always been a fan of his, just feel he isn't always utlized correctly on Raw. If he's the champ then he needs to start opening and closing the show. NOT CENA or DX. Anyhow, Sheamus is good for WWE and a solid worker who is still figuring himself out alittle. Given a few more months and he should be better.

As far as beating Christian so clean last night, that I didn't agree with. Yes the ECW Champ should never be better than the WWE BUT That match never should have happened. Christian is the ECW champ and has steamrolled through everyone on that Roster. its obivous he needs to move on to bigger and better things which will happen in a couple weeks when ECW goes bye bye. Anyhow, with ECW retiring and the belt most likely becoming defunct there was no need to for him to lose a match in that style at this junction. Let Christian retire the ECW belt after having carried it for so many months with some class and have him DIVE into the main event scene on Smackdown

 

[Kliq]

I'm going to have to go the other way, and say that while Sheamus doesn't look too bad on the mat, he still has some work to do on the mic. The writing these days is just childish. His promo with the GH this week was so corny. You're going to defend your world title at the PPV, Sheamus? Really? No way. The GH has Daytona coming up, and for some reason it seems a lot more important to me than the WWE World Title. I was just waiting for the GH to say "You know you're not really fighting, right? I AM really driving, and that is going to matter a lot more to people than your 'match'."

Sheamus isn't responsible for WHAT he says, but the WAY he says it just screams "Who cares?" He is the definition of a PG heel champion, and it really makes me want to turn the channel. I can't take him seriously. That said, he is doing what he's supposed to do, and you can't hate a man for that. I just wish he would put more effort into perfecting his promos.

 

[Undertaker the 5th]

I've seen this guy since about a week or two before he went to raw. When I first saw him I knew that guy had main event potential, you don't need to have a big moveset to make it to main event, this guy has the looks, he's big, he has cool hair. I dig this guy because of that and because he is a badass. The only thing I don't like about him is his kick, why do wrestlers have to oversell that move? I just think it's kind of lame for a finisher. I know he has another one, but the way his matches go he doesn't really need to use that other one.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I've enjoyed Sheamus overall really from the beginning. I'm glad that the WWE stood by him and has actually given him a chance rather than just give up on him after a few weeks as many were speculating would happen.

I'm not saying that Sheamus is top of the heap just yet, but I do enjoy watching him. He always cuts good, solid promos as well as matches. His match with Christian last night really boosted his credibility overall. While I'm a fan of Christian and do hope the WWE has some good things planned for him, Sheamus is the one that ultimately needed the win last night and I'm glad that it happened.

Sheamus still gets a lot of grief from some for various reasons. Some just don't like the fact he was pushed so quickly, some are still harping on his skin and some just plain hate any decision the WWE makes no matter what it is. As far as being pushed quickly, I'm sorry but I have to give the WWE credit for taking a chance on such an unknown. Nobody saw it coming, it was arguably the single most unpredictable happening in American pro wrestling in 2009 and it got people a lot of people talking about the WWE Championship scene on Raw in a positive way.

Now, of course there are those that will downplay it as if Sheamus is absolute shit or doesn't deserve the spot he's got and all that. Hey, it's an opinion and everyone's entitled to it. However, there are a few little falsehoods that do need to be cleared up. I've heard some say that Sheamus gets no reaction from the crowds and that's absolute crap. Whenever Sheamus comes out, he gets a good and respectable amount of heat, he generates heat during promos, during matches and makes people dislike him. In short, he does what a heel is classically supposed to do. See, that's a reaction. Michelle McCool is an example of someone that gets no reaction from the crowds at all.

 

[not a loser like u]

you can't push someone based off of nothing. Sheamus hasn't proved anything, and if in the Wrestlemania main event, he will kill buy rates. These type of characters need to be built throughout summer months. It doesn't matter who he faces at Wrestlemania, if its a title match everyone will be disappointed. Yes, new talent is needed at the main event level, but it doesn't happen over night. Sheamus is showing signs of improvement, but do u really think hes ready to main event a Wrestlemania? A year ago no one had even heard of him.

Hate to say it but he's Umaga all over again. by next year hell be wrestling Great Kahli at Wrestlemania and by the time 28 gets here hell be dead from roiding.

 

[Trance Metaphor]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like Sheamus. The guy continues to dominate, regardless of whether or not he's going over someone clean. I was at first a little irked by the fact that his wins over Cena and Orton haven't been anything to write home about, but I gradually came to change my mind. Look at how many times he overpowered Cena in all those segments leading up to their title match? I'd say that's fair enough. Total that with his fantastic bouts with Goldust and Shelton Benjamin. And with his recent victory over Christian? He is the epitome of intensity. If Sheamus tastes defeat by the hands of Triple H in the near future as many people seem to speculate, then I do hope he gets a win over Triple H before their title match. It would considerably help Sheamus in sustaining his current status as a top man. It would also make Triple H look stronger (although it isn't necessary) as being the guy that defeated the unstoppable WWE Champion Irishman, cleanly.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

you can't push someone based off of nothing. Sheamus hasn't proved anything, and if in the Wrestlemania main event, he will kill buy rates. These type of characters need to be built throughout summer months. It doesn't matter who he faces at Wrestlemania, if its a title match everyone will be disappointed. Yes, new talent is needed at the main event level, but it doesn't happen over night. Sheamus is showing signs of improvement, but do u really think hes ready to main event a Wrestlemania? A year ago no one had even heard of him.

Hate to say it but he's Umaga all over again. by next year hell be wrestling Great Kahli at Wrestlemania and by the time 28 gets here hell be dead from roiding.

Why would he kill buy rates? It's not even a given if he does stay champion until then, that he will be in the main event. His match was probably be in the middle of the card like most are. Lesnar was built over summer months and look how good he did. The WWE have been doing a good job with Sheamus and if they are confident that Edge/Jericho may be the main event of Wrestlemania, then I have no problem with Sheamus being the champion until then.

 

[Trill Co$by]

I've liked Sheamus since he took Jamie Noble out. His promos have just become so amazing and when he says them in his Irish accent, it makes him seem so evil. And then, when he finally does destroy his opponent, it's even better.

The best thing that Sheamus has going for him is that there's not enough footage to get a strategy off of. Unlike people like Cena, HHH, and Orton.

Plus, he's the other heel that Raw has been needing for a long time. Especially since Orton's about to go face and Batista is on Smackdown.

 

[Max Moon]

So, someone may have said this, b/c I didn't read all 4 pages of comments, but he NEEDS(!) to drop the fake accent. I can't take him seriously. At all. He's ok (Seriously just O.K.) in the ring. Alright, besides the accent, on the mic. And he's has basically 0 character development. You can't argue it. I'm right. Admit it.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I like Sheamus and am impressed with the way WWE has presented him. I thought he was going to be a one-week champion, fodder to be used only as a vehicle to make John Cena look even more heroic when he immediately won the title back from Sheamus. Instead, he's still champion, facing down good guys (Cena & Christian) as well as heels (Orton).

His physique is unique and impressive, he's got some good moves.......and he is as obnoxious a personality as there is in wrestling, which is surely a plus.

It's ironic that many folks complain that Sheamus hasn't paid his dues while others have always pointed out that only veterans are allowed to advance in WWE.

Well, here's the great in-between. We're finally seeing WWE upset the applecart by departing from their usual formula.....and I think it's great.

 

[Miko]

You know, I'd rather have Sheamus as champion than CM Punk, I have actually come round to the guy, I dont think he's great, or the next coming of something. . . . or other, but I gotta admit he is quite good, puts on pretty entertaining matches and doesnt make people look like shit when he beats them, that's always a good sign.

It's just a shame that every RAW, or PPV that I've seen Sheamus at, he's not elicited much of a crowd reaction, so no matter how I feel about him right now, I still cant shake the fact that I dont think he is over, as a face, or a heel. I mean, I got nothing against pushing a guy to the top very very quickly, but only when they're getting crowd reactions almost immediately like Lesnar was, Sheamus hasnt got that. Still, what do I know? He could be drawing big time as champ.

 

[JoonDaGr8One]

The fact that alot of people are mad that he went over Christian means he is doing his job right, do you think Vince is going to let the ECW champ shit on his WWE champion? They building him up fine to me and his mic skills are ok, just give him a chance. I think if you watch everything with a critics eye you will never enjoy yourself, that is why we watch it isn't it , to enjoy ourselves. And if he really is HHH's boy then Hunter should job to him a wrestlemania to really build him up but I wouldn't bank on it.

 

[Jonnie Walker]

Sheamus is fucking awesome. Dude has the most badass kick I've ever seen. He kicked the shit out of Christian's face last night. I will admit, that crucifix powerbomb sucks, but that kick is awesome, and so is that backbreaker he used to use as his finisher. He's got good mic skills, because if he didn't, he would be just another talented guy who is being wasted because he has a lacking in the mic skills department. I'm talking to you Shelton, Evan Bourne, Morrison, and Matt Hardy. Still, Jeff was awful and he was world champ 3 times. . Anyway, Sheamus is beast. Maybe I'm biased because Tekkno Jonnie is mostly Irish. But, Tekkno Jonnie still thinks Sheamus kicks ass regardless, because Tekkno Jonnie is also part Polish, and Tekkno Jonnie also likes to speak in the third person. And that's also the bottom line, because Tekkno Jonnie said so biotch!

 

[kc2788x]

Don't compare the Irish Ronald McDonald SHAME-US with the likes of a Batista or Orton, Orton and Batista work their butts off, they NEVER showed up on raw for 2 wk. and was handed the belt on the very first PPV they were on, all those shame-us fans are in denial! they know POLITICS comes into play, but they won't admit, it, IT WAS disappointing to have him won over a CREDIBLE Champ like Christian, Shame-us is a joke!! Can't wait until he drops the belt!

 

[hogan is the greatest]

ok sheamus really sucks plain and simple i mean he is nothing more than a joke kissing triple h's ass he surely dosent deserve to be wwe champ he dosent even deserve to be a mid card champ i like him best when he was jobbing to goldust cause thats about all hes good for really. i think the wwe is running out of ideas and they are just picking straws but if that is the best they can come up with then they need to hang it up. hogan said he did not want to go back to wwe because of politics i see what he means if the best they could do is give me that to look at for a champion i would not go back either long live tna because from the looks of it thats the only wrestling entertainment you go get wwe has just got so stale and dull i cant even beleive it

 

[JBSMan]

Don't compare the Irish Ronald McDonald SHAME-US with the likes of a Batista or Orton, Orton and Batista work their butts off, they NEVER showed up on raw for 2 wk. and was handed the belt on the very first PPV they were on, all those shame-us fans are in denial! they know POLITICS comes into play, but they won't admit, it, IT WAS disappointing to have him won over a CREDIBLE Champ like Christian, Shame-us is a joke!! Can't wait until he drops the belt!

With posts like this, you know you're reacting perfectly along with the plan, don't you? Whatever your reason may be, WWE is making you hate a heel and you're waiting for a good guy to come along and take his belt from him.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

I think Sheamus is god awful, I really do (sorry to you Sheamus lovers out there). First of all, he isn't that big. I have no problem with the size of a wrestler, but they are trying to make him out to be some kind of monster. He's taller than a lot of the other guys, but he's not that jacked. His character is terrible. He is being himself, and I don't find him to be all that interesting. Other than talking down to other wrestlers, he has no characteristics that make me think of him as a heel (him being boo'ed doesn't count, many people are boo'ing because he sucks, kind of like Cena's reaction). In the ring, he does nothing really well, and he has a limited moveset. His bicycle kick is cool, but any athletic guy they have could do that well. He uses the Razors edge, and it doesn't look that painful when he does it. I just see absolutely NOTHING special about this guy. Seems like he is better suited for a mid card role, not the WWE champion.

 

[JBSMan]

So, someone may have said this, b/c I didn't read all 4 pages of comments, but he NEEDS(!) to drop the fake accent. I can't take him seriously. At all. He's ok (Seriously just O.K.) in the ring. Alright, besides the accent, on the mic. And he's has basically 0 character development. You can't argue it. I'm right. Admit it.

He's from the north side of Dublin, and he speaks with a north Dublin accent, nothing fake there. So should Regal drop the fake English accent?

It's interesting that if some people come across an accent they're not immediately familiar with, they assume it must be put on. It's another factor that plays into someone being a heel - there's something about them you're intimidated by because you don't understand it, or trust it. This plays off the inherent racism held with the average wrestling fan and is why it's easier to focus on stereotypes and make a foreigner a heel.

 

[thepalaceprince]

I love sheamus and Ive been defending him for a while now. People complain about his look but I love it because its so unique with all these tanned up oiled up wrestlers out there sheamus has gone in the opposite direction and it works people want him to look like everyone else and because he doesnt they hate him. I think hes very good in the ring he puts on some solid matches when given the opportunity and he is very good on the mic. I especially like the accent Im part irish so his accent speaks to me in a way (as does his pailness). And this idea that he was handed the belt to early who cares clearly vince (or whoever) saw something in him and gave him a shot. If you have superstar you dont leave him on the bench the wwe recognized that gave him a title shot and he run with it. hes involved with the hosts every week so he doesnt need a storyline. Im looking forward to watching him and hhh face off at mania (if it happens) and I hope he comes out victorious and continues to build the legend of the celtic warrior!

 

[GeneralKarim]

I think Sheamus is god awful, I really do (sorry to you Sheamus lovers out there). First of all, he isn't that big. I have no problem with the size of a wrestler, but they are trying to make him out to be some kind of monster. He's taller than a lot of the other guys, but he's not that jacked. His character is terrible. He is being himself, and I don't find him to be all that interesting. Other than talking down to other wrestlers, he has no characteristics that make me think of him as a heel (him being boo'ed doesn't count, many people are boo'ing because he sucks, kind of like Cena's reaction). In the ring, he does nothing really well, and he has a limited moveset. His bicycle kick is cool, but any athletic guy they have could do that well. He uses the Razors edge, and it doesn't look that painful when he does it. I just see absolutely NOTHING special about this guy. Seems like he is better suited for a mid card role, not the WWE champion.

Ye and THe Fireman's Carry is so painfull when Cena doest it pfff...at least Sheamus runs with the damn thing and throws a bit.Doesnt look so devastating but looks much better than what cena has.OR Dont fucking tell me ( I LOVE EDGe btw ) Edge's spear is more devastating than the Crucifix Powerbomb.Or please got pls do not tell me that the PLAY*fucking*maker is better than that.The crucifix powerbomb SCreams main event because of how its executed.Thats the reason he changed it because that Irish Curse back breaker he did ,Although very fkn nice, screamed Mid-card-finisher.

People dont even give this guy a fucking chance if u dont like WWE dont watch it,I think in 5 years when all the veterans are about to pull the plug or are just a few left people will still complain of mega pushes or the superstars that are given normal pushes or w/e.


Stop being critics like u know everything and watch it because u love it.IF u feel ure have so many negative things to say just dont say them and dont watch WWE anymore.

Sheamus is fresh he has the best look someone can have,different voice , basically everything u want.His move set is ok,PLUS hes a fucking heel he isnt suppose to do drop kicks and have STARSHIP PAIN or sth allike as a finisher.

Onto my next idea

People ,from what i've read here, are starting to bitch a bit about the man's moveset.
WHAt the FUCK is up with that?

BATITSA : MEGA-SLOW-NO-IMPACT-SPEAR,Spinebuster,Batista Bomb,AND DO NOT FUCK DO NOT FORGET THE MEGA SUPER KICK coming from the ROPES.

CENA - I wont gO there

TRIPLE H - HMM so, VINTAGE HARLEY RACE LIKE KNEEEEEEE,CLOTHesline coming from the corner of the ring ,hmmm SPINE BUSTER,that FACE buster THAT Looks like it fucking doesnt do anything( espcially when applied to big show ),and his pedddididgreee.O and he SOMETIMES does a standin suplex ,sometimes.

Shawn Michaels - Hmm ( the man is a legend a god ,but we are talking move sets here ) well the WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO choopes, the DICK BUSTER and then the CHOPPP that takes the man down.THE ELBOW TO THE HEART that looks so ******ed as of late.and SCM.And never forget the WAM BAM my hands in your FACE coming from the ropes which leave u DEAD for a a lot of seconds BECAUSE THAT HURTS.

ORton - ( LOVE HIM btw mark mark mark ) - STOMPING,the sometimes nice dropkick , the DDT that will always happen during a serious match,and RKO,and Sleeper and other holds.but im mainly refering to impact moves.

So dont ever bitch about his moves set like COMPARED to other his moveste fucking sucks or sth.And some fucking SAid that KILLSWITCH >>> CRUCIFIX BOMB? i love christian but that thing looks like it does nothing.ITs like a kinda scull crushing finale cause you cant protect your head with your hands.BUt just from looking at them u Know instantly which is better.The Irish Green WArrior-LIKE Crucifix BOmb.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

This all happened a few years ago... 2002 to be exact.... a new, untested champion was given the push... he won by DQ a lot... and lost to Trips at Mania... that guy was Chris Jericho... now if you are Sheamus, seeing how that run "hurt" Jericho, are you going to be happy???... Hell yeah!

WWE is clearly investing in Sheamus for the long haul... he truly is a unique specimen... physically imposing without fitting the stereotype, able to talk with words and action and... to get people talking....he's the most UN-WWE Champion since Jericho got the Undisputed...

and the reason for his swift push is that he is no pun intended raw... he has no baggage from ROH or WCW or TNA... no americans would watch Irish Whip anyway in Vince's eyes... so its a talented blank canvas... I hope he avoids the tan, tats and shaved hair that makes every wrestler look and act the same...

and remember one thing... back in the day... Vince Senior knew that an Irish fighting champ would draw...so he created one by renaming a guy Hogan... and I think Vince Jr. now sees some long term potential in the irishman with the belt...