[OFFICIAL] Sheamus as the WWE Champion Thread

[TimetoShine]

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Is it just me, or is Sheamus, even as the champion, totally forgettable? I mean seriously, I literally name other people on Raw as being champion, and I am not a senile person usually.

As far as reasoning, I still see zero headway in him actually developing any personality. I have nothing against him having Casper's complexion, or being Irish as I am mostly Irish myself. To his credit, he is pretty damn brutal in the ring with his high impact moves, but his whole push just seems way too rushed, and the crowd could care less if he comes out to the ring or not.

On another funny note, whenever his music first hits, I keep looking to see who is coming out!!

Anyone else feel this way or I am completely bonkers again?

 

[wazaveli]

I'm the same. I don't even know when he became champion and I don't know why he still is champion.

But hey as far as he is concerned he is being given a chance to main event so good luck to him, but he needs to develop more of a prescence which should be a must if your the WWE champion.

 

[Suneeboy]

Yes I forget he's the champ until I see him come out with the belt. The guy is a bore and the experiment is failed if you ask me. He can't cut a convincing promo, and he doesn't have matches that entertain me. His feuds with Cena and Orton accomplished nothing if you ask me, and he looks out of place in the main event scene. They gave him the strap too quick without even giving him a real character. That has made for bad television.

I agree with everything you said. It was rushed, poorly executed, badly booked, and is not entertaining. I forget he has the belt until he comes out with it.

 

[Stuntz]

I actually look foward to see what happens with him next. That being said I was somewhat disappointed with the match at Rumble as far as the ending, however the match wasn't bad. Take tonites raw for instance, who actually saw Edge going over on him, not me. I expected the usual boot to the face to once again prove Sheamus is a monster heel, but they didn't go that route. Sheamus is slowly growin on me as champ and I can accept the fact he is the cahamp until someone goes over on him.

 

[Joup7]

i sometimes forget Sheamus is champ. they don't really book him in the high-profile matches on shows that a champ normally gets. His title match that he won was mid-card of TLC PPV.

when he first came up, i thought he had future champ material. i just thought it would take a few years to develop.

 

[BourneToFly]

I like the fact that they're giving a no-name guy a chance to main event, but yeah he's completely forgettable. I think you need to work a lot before winning the championship. Maybe he could have gone through so actually tough matches before being "handed" the strap. There are tons of guys waiting in the balance who have been working their asses off for years and don't get that chance. To name a few:

Kofi Kingston
Christian
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase
Vladimir Kozlov
MVP
Mark Henry
Jack Swagger
The Miz
John Morrison
KANE for crying out loud

Yet, as I say this, Jack Swagger enters for an elimination chamber qualifying match. However, with Cody Rhodes, he just completely jobbed to John Cena. He didn't even put up a good fight. And now it looks like Swagger will do the same to Triple H. I'm just pretty tired of waiting for decent stars to get a push.

They could have put any number of hard workers in the main event picture, but for some reason decided to stick with the guy that was Triple H's workout partner. I'm sorry, but Woop-dee-freaking-doo. I think I'll go work out with HHH a couple of times and win the WWE Championship.

Here's to hoping the Money in the Bank changes that.

 

[TrenchCoat]

I completely agree. I don't recognize his music nearly as much as I do Legacy or Swagger, Christian Benjamin, Kofi Kingstong, and others.

This winter WWE magazine had an issue on up and coming stars, and Sheamus wasn't even in it...and not he's WWE Champ? Give me a break.

It's possible to promote and transition to younger stars like Rhodes (who really does have main even potential) and keep the older guys around and placated and keep them in the main event. But the WWE just doesn't seem interested in doing that without going to an unbelievable storyline like Sheamus.

 

[jimpedro419]

I dont forget that he is the champ. However wants sheamus comes out I am wondering how is he the champ. I wonder is vince racist because very rarely do you see a black wrestler become champion so what about kofi i think he deserves a shot atleast.

 

[Greenlight13]

I think people just really can't truly believe they put the belt on him. Not because it was a bad idea, just that it was such a shock. He debuted on Raw a month before winning the title and has held it for 2 months and it's looking probable that he will defend it at Wrestlemania. I mean who the hell would have predicted that?

He hasn't been in any major storylines yet and doesn't actually mix it up with the main eventers a lot which is what they're trying to correct now. I mean sure, murdering Evan Bourne does remind people he's good, but beating people of that level every single week doesn't strengthen him, it just keeps him exactly where he was before the match with them started. If you want to build a star they have to rise with every show, not stay where they are.

He's going over Cena and Orton by DQ when he should be getting pins somehow. Sure he looks good when he beats them down after matches, but it just isn't the same as getting into a proper feud with actual pins.

I'm glad they haven't given up on him yet though, putting him in the ring with Edge was nice, but might have been better if he ran from the ring before getting Speared.

 

[tarzan2490]

I honestly think WWE is trying to keep us from remember the fact that Shelton Benjamin beat him on ECW, but yet no one on RAW can stop him. I honestly think thats quite amusing as, They don't push the guy who beats him. But the biggest face of the company cant.

 

[Calderownz]

He's been rushed to an extent, I think that is obvious. He's not horrible, he just hasn't found his 'spot', so to speak. However, I forget that he sometimes, because the guys that matter are still there and he still doesn't matter to that extent.

He needs to reign for a while, then re-earn the spot in order to make the right noise. Sort of the way Orton did it after his first championship run.

 

[Chauncy Talon]

One thing they need to do is to make Sheamus cut more promos. He barely on the show, he does not talk anymore and he not the focal point of the events. I thought if you were the World Champion then everything evolved around you, but hey; I must be a following the old NWA formula.

 

[macksstream]

I disagree. I dont forget Sheamus is champ and i recognise his music wen he comes out. But then i expected he would win at TLC. Given time he'll be an awesome heel. And if you say he was given the strap too soon, its something different to what they usually do. I mean they usually do build them up over a few years but then you can tell when they're gunna try to get the belt, but sheamus was so sudden and if he continues like this he'll be good. Besides, would u have like to see cena vs kofi, face vs face in a tables match? loads of people would complain about that im sure.

 

[iamcountrymusic]

i often say 'Oh yeah, Sheamus is still the champ'
He hasn't made a big enough impact because he's ugly, has annoying entrance music, a fire crotch and not American. Plus he's boring.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I really feel fans only boo him because they don't want him to be champion. Even the biggest heel would be cheered compared to Sheamus. Brooklyn Brawler would get more pops then him. He is just too bland. It's great that new talent is being pushed, but Sheamus is too green. It's like seeing Kamala, Mabel, or Papa Shango in the main event against The Undertaker.

No one cared about them, and no one cares about Sheamus.

 

[CJ The Pirate]

i often say 'Oh yeah, Sheamus is still the champ'
He hasn't made a big enough impact because he's ugly, has annoying entrance music, a fire crotch and not American. Plus he's boring.

Slightly racist comments there. Should Bret or Edge not have been champion then? They aren't American.

But if that is what passes for a justfication allow me to try one.

You are a dick because you are a dick and a dick. Oh, you're a dick too.

Ooh, can I please do another one?

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Makes about as much sense as your drivel. Go warm up some milk. There's a good boy.



Now. Sheamus NEEDS to drop the belt before Wrestlemania. He won't sell. He gets no reaction from the crown and it's looking very likely that Edge is going to be in the Raw main event at Mania. I really don't expect people to stay with abated breath waiting for 4 hours to watch a green up and comer take on someone who will need to pull the best performance he's had in a long time out of somewhere special to carry that match. Nothing about Sheamus Vs Edge screams Wrestlemania Moment... I'll buy THAT on DVD! No. It just sounds like waste of my time.

He's green. He has no character. Noone is really sure what his gimmick is other than shouty. His presence is embarrassing (I mean, that caveman two hands up whilst roaring taunt thing he likes to do... really? That's the best he could come up with? He always seems to do it as though he's been thinking about doing it for a few moments. Give me 10 seconds thinking time and I could come up with a better taunt.) We discovered last night that he can't sell a leg injury. That was fun. First he over sold it and it seemed to get better the more Orton worked it. Brilliant ability that.

The elimination chamber is a good match for him to drop the belt. The match has lost its mystique. We all get it now. It's time for something new. How about NOONE gets eliminated and all 6 are in the ring. Everyone gang up on Sheamus and he's gets beat. He loses no points as it took 5 guys to beat him (or Shelton Benjamin) and it makes Wrestlemania shine!

 

[iamcountrymusic]

i wasn't meaning to sound racist. i was joking and saying how he won't appeal of a lot of WWE fans is because of that.

Slightly racist comments there. Should Bret or Edge not have been champion then? They aren't American.

But if that is what passes for a justfication allow me to try one.

You are a dick because you are a dick and a dick. Oh, you're a dick too.

Ooh, can I please do another one?

hsdkjhvkjdzhfjksdhfkjcberjfbvjshdsvbdfjsvbmjhdsfkvjsberkjgvbzdjfkhb

Makes about as much sense as your drivel. Go warm up some milk. There's a good boy.



Now. Sheamus NEEDS to drop the belt before Wrestlemania. He won't sell. He gets no reaction from the crown and it's looking very likely that Edge is going to be in the Raw main event at Mania. I really don't expect people to stay with abated breath waiting for 4 hours to watch a green up and comer take on someone who will need to pull the best performance he's had in a long time out of somewhere special to carry that match. Nothing about Sheamus Vs Edge screams Wrestlemania Moment... I'll buy THAT on DVD! No. It just sounds like waste of my time.

He's green. He has no character. Noone is really sure what his gimmick is other than shouty. His presence is embarrassing (I mean, that caveman two hands up whilst roaring taunt thing he likes to do... really? That's the best he could come up with? He always seems to do it as though he's been thinking about doing it for a few moments. Give me 10 seconds thinking time and I could come up with a better taunt.) We discovered last night that he can't sell a leg injury. That was fun. First he over sold it and it seemed to get better the more Orton worked it. Brilliant ability that.

The elimination chamber is a good match for him to drop the belt. The match has lost its mystique. We all get it now. It's time for something new. How about NOONE gets eliminated and all 6 are in the ring. Everyone gang up on Sheamus and he's gets beat. He loses no points as it took 5 guys to beat him (or Shelton Benjamin) and it makes Wrestlemania shine!

 

[CJ The Pirate]

That should not be an issue. There have been greats from all over the world that fans take to. Edge, Bret, Bulldog, Piper, Tajiri, Finlay, Yokozuna... I think WWE fans can handle a bit of foreign culture.

You were taking pot shots. A dog with three legs can still bite. It doesn't matter what his face looks like. His skin. Hair. His Voice. Can he wrestle very well? He shows promise but not for the level he's at. Stick with that point and you can't go wrong.

The point you made came across very childish so you got a childish response from me.

 

[Trance Metaphor]

I like Sheamus. I like Sheamus as WWE Champion. Sure, at first I was thinking 'WTF! Why are they pushing someone that just got called up to the main roster and has had three mini feuds in a short time span (few months)? It made no sense. But, his strength and potential to work good matches (especially on both ECW and WWE SuperStars) and that kick-ass theme song isn't leaving anytime soon. He's a fresh face and he's different than all the other main event players for the time being. My only complaint is with the quick battles he transitions into. First he beats John Cena and their series of skirmishes are short-lived. Then, he enters into the fold with Randy Orton for one measly match that didn't end up making Sheamus look as convincing as it should've. It's the booking. For a dominant monster, he's not winning cleanly and that hasn't worked well for past equivalents such as Umaga. In fact, he looks nothing short of an object involved only because he's got the WWE gold and not because wrestlers are directly trying to start something with him. Despite this, there's mystery behind who will be the one to defeat him for that title and what could've been obvious in Randy Orton wasn't, so I kind of like that. Now, is Sheamus going to stick around until WrestleMania when he faces Edge? Or will someone defeat him at No Way Out as the rest of the WWE universe silently forgets about him as he descends into mid-card hell where he becomes the next Vladimir Kozlov? I'm still interested.

 

[JJYanks121]

I'm mixed on Sheamus. For a while, I was very low on him and thought "transitional champ". Couple that with his lack of appearances and he really was forgotten..............until tonight. I actually think he did a nice job with Edge tonight with his promo and segment. With that said, one segment does not a champion make. When he drops the belt, I'm sure it'll be a tough transition for James Hetfield's redheaded stepchild, but he has size and ugliness on his side as a heel. Believe it or not, that will actually count for something.

I won't tell you I think he's the best heel for the job on Raw, but he's the flavor of the month and a placeholder to push other feuds. However, he does have potential to grow as a star and I think he can be a heel people can hate for real. Time will tell though.

 

[Crossfire]

You know, this is a bit off topic.. Yes, I am new here guys..
But has anyone else caught onto the fact Sheamus is not at all pure Irish?
I ask this because it seems so many people are talking about him and referring to him in actuality as "the real Irishman".. Surely you all have heard his accent break on more than one occasion..Tonight's Raw; for one instance..

In fact, I know for a fact he's not really Irish because I encountered him about a year ago at a hotel not far from an arena where Raw had taken place,[It was before he was televised on his run in ECW], and I approached him to ask about his physique is he was in developmental with WWE and he responded WITHOUT ACCENT in a smartass, confusing type of way, "Nah man, I'm not that famous".. Almost as if he were saying he weren't a wrestling fan to confuse others from approaching him..

Then Two months later, BAM!
ECW- Sheamus is Born!
Well needless to say I was pissed when I recognized who he was because that night he wouldn't give me his autograph ..
Whether it was against policy before he was aired or not still questions me..
But anyways..

*sorry this is off topic guys, but I thought you guys might would find the encounter and topic interesting*

 

[The Curtis]

i just like how the announcers always talk about how Sheamus is "unstoppable" and how he rode roughshod over the entire ECW roster. He wrestled Goldust and Shelton Benjamin and that's about it. He even had losses to both of them too. Honestly i enjoyed the feud between him and Goldust though. But point being, i think its funny that announcers seem to leave out little facts like that.

 

[jayteeERA]

Well no I haven't forgot that sheamus is the greatest boring WWE champion of all time. He was push too fast too soon. I know WWE gave him the title because of the same wrestlers in the main event. But there were plenty of other wrestlers who were develop of being the WWE champion.

I can see why some ppl will forget that he is holding the WWE title. He can't wrestle, he doesn't get a reponse from the crowd, no personality, and his matches are boring. If this how he acts as a champion. Once that title is gone. Its bye bye Sheamus.

 

[ewright006]

sheamus has to be one of the most overlooked wwe champions in the history of the business...i have yet to see him wrestle a decent amount of time in the ring..i dont exaclty hate they guy but i think they should at least let im come in 2nd or third in the chamber so we can all see what he can do in the ring..

 

[The Roid Rage]

I am just waiting to see whether or not he is where he is because he is that good and we just don't know it yet, or if his friends in high places are just getting him the recognition. I can only imagine the reaction in the locker room to him winning the title. I bet a lot of guys were pissed off to see some guy who has barely been with the company win over them. I like his look, it's different and but impressive. He's big, he's mean, he beats people up, and he tells them he's going to do it before he does it. This could lead to people liking him more than they would like to admit because there doesn't seem to be any bullshit about him. I don't like that he hasn't won a title match clean yet, but it will come with time unless he loses it before he gets the chance again. There is no way I could forget he is the champion. It was such a shock, and so unbelievable I could never forget that. Especially since he won over Cena. I never thought they would put a new guy like him over SuperCena. I loved it, I was so happy to see someone else as champion, and not because I don't like Cena he is fine to me, but I am tired of him being champion. Wherever he is it seems to be only a matter of time until he gets one of the titles and I don't like that, it's too predictable. I like the aggressive style of Sheamus, and how confident he appears. He is not bad on the mic either, he obviously has room to grow though. I can see what they see in him, I am just not sure it's what they think it is yet. He just might be a heavy player in the future, and I don't know if I am too mad at that.