[OFFICIAL] Kaval / Team Laycool Discussion Thread

When I first found out about this pairing, I thought to myself.. "Is it this obvious that McMahon can not stand Wrestlers that he doesn't have a huge part in helping to create from the beginning, that he has to go out of his way to mock them?" Then I tried to give it more thought and this is what I've come to the decision of..

Kaval is about the worst name any Wrestler could have. What does it even stand for, or mean? Regardless of that, the overall point is.. he couldn't survive with anyone other than the (arguably) two biggest over "Pros" involved in Season 2. Shy of pairing him with Miz, which would be a direct repeat of the Daniel Bryan situation.

I have a feeling McCool and Layla are going to add the best parts to this show, and whether many know it or not - Kaval can actually be amusing. His voice was about the worst thing for me, and adding in McCool and Layla allows him to cut down on speaking to a bare minimum.

Kaval's best ability is what he can do INSIDE the ring. And McCool/Layla are going to help contribute by building him a personality, than none of the other Season II Pros could possibly help him reach.

EDIT: Also, people need to get off this "Kaval is a former TNA/Pro Wrestler, he's gotta win because of that!!" Its that very reason he, and everyone similar to him, (and Danielson) will NEVER win a contest such as this. They're already established names and stars. This is merely a lazy and easy way to re-debut them to the WWE world.

This contest is to help out the unknown names, so they won't have to start off being complete no-named jobbers to bigger names.

Kaval stands for soldier by the way sort of like is ring name in tna senshi stood for warrior. The name fits his character because he is a soldier in the ring. He just goes out there and kicks the shit out of everybody he faces big or small. Kaval is a smaller guy like Rey Mysterio but unlike little Rey Rey Kaval actually looks credible when he but someone twice his size. He doesn't have some lame nickname like the ultimate underdog which doesnt make since when you win almost everytime against guys bigger than you. Kaval actually wins in a decisive manner buy just beating them to a pulp with his thousands of kicks he does from every position possible. and either making them tap out or pinning them. I can't wait to see Kaval I'm very excited.
 
And its a slap in the face to real wrestling fans because your teaming the best wrestler in the season with two mediocre female wrestlers. And i never said the Bryan-Miz pairing sucked, because despite the fact Bryan is 100 times the wrestler Miz is, they fed off eachother the entire season and made it entertaining.


Well, I'd consider myself a real wrestling fan as well as many of my friends and some posters on these very forums and we're excited, so I don't think it's a slap in the face.

You're just falling for the kayfabe is all. You can think I'm talking down to you all you want but I'm right. One of the goals of NXT is to better connect with the IWC and acknowledge their presence. You can see this with the promos bringing up backstage stuff (in a kayfabe way obviously) and obviously with Danielson.

WWE *wants* you to be outraged over this pairing. They are doing it to get a rise out of people like you. Of course fans of Kaval (who are mostly IWC)are going to want him to be paired with some big name awesome wrestler to make him seem legit. WWE won't do that because it won't get nearly the same reaction that teaming them with LayCool will. Negative reactions are far louder and intense than positive ones and WWE realizes this and capitalized on the immense oppurtunity to fuck with the IWC and give a "slap in the face" to guys like you. Kaval will get plenty of time to shine and still has an awesome chance to win NXT so don't worry.

Also, it doesn't matter if Danielson was more talented than Miz or not -- it doesn't matter how skilled they are in the ring because the whole Pro/Rookie thing is an angle. It's not like they are actually mentoring them and teaching them stuff. What matters is the entertainment value and the chemistry between them and thats ALL that matters and that is the reason why you see these match-ups. I know you are acknowledging that Danielson/Miz was good, but you shouldn't even have to consider the in-ring talent disparity as it's irrelevent.

Trust me, you'll be happy they chose LayCool. I mean John Morrision? You'd prefer that? Can you imagine how god awful boring that would be? You've got Kaval, who doesn't speak much as it is with a terrible promo guy like Morrison. They'd be compeltely forgettable. LayCool will annoy the shit out of the fans which will cause them to root for Kaval all the more. They'll get him way over.

So you can use extreme phrases like "slap in the face" all you want, but this move is going to make Kaval a big name and you'll be happy.
 
This is such a weird pairing but a stroke of genius nonetheless. The dynamic between these Kaval and Laycool is going to be very interesting. Having an absolutely amazing, serious wrestler with two massive bitches is gonna be strange but fun. I think this pairing will result in a fairly big storyline.
Having Laycool as pros is a brilliant idea.When I thought about who the new pros would be, it didn't even cross my mind that they might be divas. It makes a great change from having all male pros.
I'm looking foward to next week, specifically to see how these do. By far my favourite pair.
 
I have to admit that I'm intrigued by this pairing. I'm not exactly sure what's going to happen but it should be a nice contrast of styles between LayCool and Kaval. I'm sure that Kaval is already picked as the favorite for some but I dunno. I get the feeling there's something kind of bland about the guy, but I might well be wrong on that. Still, I'm interested in seeing where they're gonna go with this.
 
Damn... I think I have a man-crush on Vanderhook now!

I was kinda salty when they first announced the pairing of Kaval with LameCool, but it makes sense in the end. I just hate Layla, she's a waste of space in the women's division, and just plain annoying to me (but that's a different topic all together). VHook is right, the WWE knows what they are doing... this pairing will only get the more serious Kaval over strictly because of the fact that no one likes LayCool's obnoxious, teenage behavior. So it should make for some great segments between the three. Let's hope they drop the ball on this one.
 
At first I was extremely suprise with this paring and though it was going to be horrible. But like Will I gave it some thought and thought this was a good thing for him. The reason I see this as a good thing is we can see him more possibly on SmackDown and sure most of his matches he might lose but still if he is eliminate early maybe mccool and vickie kayable wise would get help from hire up in Vickie to hire him to there brand and make someone like Dolph Ziggler or Chavo Gurrero feud with him.
 
This is perhaps the rookie alongside Michael McGillicutty, he may very well become another Daniel Bryan, which is a shame although, but we all know how great it was watching Daniel Bryan after he got eliminated.

I'm shat myself when I saw that Lay-Cool were gonna be pros, not because it was a positive mark out thing, but because I find it to be absolutely ridiculous, they do have the experience etc etc. but they're female wrestlers, if there was ever gonna be anything with female involvement on NXT, it would have to be with involvement of a female rookie.
 
When I first found out about this pairing, I thought to myself.. "Is it this obvious that McMahon can not stand Wrestlers that he doesn't have a huge part in helping to create from the beginning, that he has to go out of his way to mock them?" Then I tried to give it more thought and this is what I've come to the decision of..

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. If Vince hated these "self-made" wrestlers so much, why bother going through all the trouble of hiring them, only to turn around and mock them? It's just not good business. The character suffers and the company ultimately loses money on something they didn't believe in in the first place. Vince knew exactly who he has working for him, which is why his team picked up Danielson and Low-Ki in the first place.

Kaval is about the worst name any Wrestler could have. What does it even stand for, or mean?

Did anyone question the WWE when Umaga debuted? I didn't see anyone asking what his name meant (which, btw, means "morning" in the Filipino language of Tagalog...I just thought it was funny and I'm sure they didn't mean to make that connection since he's a Pacific Islander). Kaval is derived from the Tagalog word for "soldier", kawal.

EDIT: Also, people need to get off this "Kaval is a former TNA/Pro Wrestler, he's gotta win because of that!!" Its that very reason he, and everyone similar to him, (and Danielson) will NEVER win a contest such as this. They're already established names and stars. This is merely a lazy and easy way to re-debut them to the WWE world.

This contest is to help out the unknown names, so they won't have to start off being complete no-named jobbers to bigger names.

I just think that because of the current success of the Bryan Danielson angle, the WWE decided to go with the same formula with Kaval/Low-Ki/Senshi. Obviously it's working because we're seeing the same reaction. The WWE have finally put some real thought into what they're putting out and have come through with some genius angles.
 
Did anyone question the WWE when Umaga debuted? I didn't see anyone asking what his name meant (which, btw, means "morning" in the Filipino language of Tagalog...I just thought it was funny and I'm sure they didn't mean to make that connection since he's a Pacific Islander). Kaval is derived from the Tagalog word for "soldier", kawal.

Umm, Umaga (which is actually pronounced ew-mang-a) is the name of the most painful part of the Samoan cultural tattooing ritual, it means "the end" and is a word that has several meanings among various islander races.

Anyway, this pairing basically screams LayCool will be annoying bitches and claim responsibilty for Low-Ki's success. Hopefully Low-Ki dominates NXT this time around as I think it's fair that a lesser know indie wrestler gets to showcase how good he is, were as Danielson was used to address the IWC, I think Low Ki will be the NXT blue-chipper this time around. Hopefully the pairing works out for the best.
 
WWE *wants* you to be outraged over this pairing. They are doing it to get a rise out of people like you. Of course fans of Kaval (who are mostly IWC)are going to want him to be paired with some big name awesome wrestler to make him seem legit. WWE won't do that because it won't get nearly the same reaction that teaming them with LayCool will. Negative reactions are far louder and intense than positive ones and WWE realizes this and capitalized on the immense oppurtunity to fuck with the IWC and give a "slap in the face" to guys like you. Kaval will get plenty of time to shine and still has an awesome chance to win NXT so don't worry

Funny thing is im not outraged. I find it hilarious that they pair the guy with the most talent with women. I have no doubt in my mind Kaval will get pushed as much as Danielson, its just funny as hell how they take these established guys in other places and break them down (Bryan) or pair them with subpar women wrestlers and act like they have never done anything.
 
I'm not going to call this a stroke of genius because it's not that great,but it does seem kind of interesting.Eh...I don't know,when I saw that they paired Low-Ki with LayCool,I had a little twitch of anger,but I just kinda said"whatever,nothing we can do about it".
 
Am I the only one kinda scratchin their head about this? LayCool mentoring Kaval? What would LayCool have to say that would help out Kaval? What could Low Ki learn from these two? Low Ki (yeah, that's right, I'm going with his TNA name over his FCW name) is really good in the ring and I just have a hard time accepting LayCool as his mentors just because I'd rather see Regal have another shot at trying to lead a rookie to win on NXT.
 
Am I the only one kinda scratchin their head about this? LayCool mentoring Kaval? What would LayCool have to say that would help out Kaval? What could Low Ki learn from these two? Low Ki (yeah, that's right, I'm going with his TNA name over his FCW name) is really good in the ring and I just have a hard time accepting LayCool as his mentors just because I'd rather see Regal have another shot at trying to lead a rookie to win on NXT.

He was Low Ki long before TNA. He was Low Ki during his first run, then when he returned, he was Senshi (but I'm sure you knew that already).

You do have a point, though. LayCool might just end up being overglorified, bossy valets lol...
 
I'm stoked about this. I was disappointed when Kaval wasn't included in the first NXT season, so I'm dying with anticipation. I was also thrilled to see his pro pairing. Absolute genius in theory. I just hope that it plays out as well as I think it might. LayCool and Kaval have polar opposite personalities which should make for some truly funny comedic segments. No doubt LayCool will be focusing on developing a personality for Kaval as he is well known for being intense and serious at all times.
 
I'm really liking this pairing. Just like a lot of other poster's I was annoyed that Kaval wasn't included in the first series as I am a huge fan of him but I'm very glad he's been introduced now. He should be a major player this series. I am also loving his pairing in Laycool. It should make for some entertaining television. Hopefully this will develop a personality for Kaval to go with his in ring ability which we know is top notch. I can't wait to see what they can do with this pairing.
 
I have a feeling that Kaval will be more like Daniel Bryan and not need to win in order to secure his spot in WWE. This is probably just to get him ready and get his name out there.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing this guy on NXT. I'm concerned they won't let him use the Warrior's Way though, he has to, that move is incredible.

That said, I'm going to agree with pretty much everyone else, in that there are endless possibilities with regards to him being paired with Laycool, I don't mind what happens, as long as it entertains to the extent I'm expecting.

He'll probably be around until the final week, but I don't see him winning. It's a shame, he's the guy I'm most looking forward to, but it will probably be a case of them pushing someone we don't know as well as him. That said, maybe they want to give Laycool the bragging rights-only female Pros win? Think of how much they would gloat at that.
 
This is another good pairing. This is going to be comedic from the start, and I can't wait to see what Kaval will do. It'd be hilarious to be if Kaval just landed big roundhouse kicks to the face of both of them and walked away. LayCool are really making the Women's Division now, and with the addition of Kaval, he might be the BEST lacky ever. This also could lead to a Barrett-Kaval feud in the future to me. What if Layla and Barret got together in kayfabe or formed an alliance after or during NXT? Then we would have to deal with the tension building between Kaval and Barrett if Kaval got tired of LayCool. This has to be the 2nd best pair in NXT, because it's a LONG way from Miz/Riley, but it's going to be good all the same.
 
he was in wwf and now his back as a "Rookie" how does that work his a better wrestler than laya & mcool he should be there pro

but it wiil still be funny to watch mr seriouse and laycool
 
Yeah I don't have any problem with LayCool being Kaval's Pros, even though they annoy the living crap out of me, but that's the point a think. Hopefully when Kaval wins or is eliminated he hits the Warrior's Way on both of them and crushes their bitties...wait no maybe not...he should still attack them though.
 
I honestly hope that they give him the Ki Splash, but I can't decide on who he will turn out to be on the show from last season. He seems like he's going to be the Daniel Bryan, but he could also be a better Justin Gabriel. At first, I was wondering why he was paired with Lay-Cool, but now it makes sense. They are making the women's division watchable, and they gain huge heat. It will ultimately build Kaval as a better face when he's paired with the catty bitches from high school that we all hated. I see him making it toward the end, or going the Daniel Bryan route.
 
Senshi all the way, baby. Actually, probably not, but he should do alright. Maybe even win a match, unlike Danielson. That'd be nice. Really though, he's very good in the ring. Therefore, he should be utilized. Makes sense, right?

LayCool is an interesting pairing, if nothing else. I find them annoying as hell, myself. And not the annoying like they're being good heels. Annoying like they make me want to change the channel. Seeing some man on woman violence coming from this pairing would be nice.
 
Damn... I think I have a man-crush on Vanderhook now!

I was kinda salty when they first announced the pairing of Kaval with LameCool, but it makes sense in the end. I just hate Layla, she's a waste of space in the women's division, and just plain annoying to me (but that's a different topic all together). VHook is right, the WWE knows what they are doing... this pairing will only get the more serious Kaval over strictly because of the fact that no one likes LayCool's obnoxious, teenage behavior. So it should make for some great segments between the three. Let's hope they drop the ball on this one.

First let me say that i am fuckin thrilled that Low Ki is gonna be on NXT, when i first heard Lay Cool say, "he's competed all over the world, and he's itty bitty" I knew Kaval was gonna be the rookie, my reaction at first was like HELL YEA Kaval bitches, then i realised his pros were Mcool and Layla which pissed me off a bit, then i realised the complete ingenuity of this pairing, people are going to 1st be amazed by Low Ki's in ring stuff then they are gonna love him when he is being harrased by the bitch twins. And ThaWrestlingGod or whatever, why would you hate Layla? She trys and from what i can tell loves the buisness and is decent and getting better by the day, whats to hate there? If you have to hate someone hate Michelle cause she is nowhere near as good and annoying in a way that isnt funny.
 
Tonight for some reason Kaval made me become a fan of is. Maybe his hot pro's luckiest Rookie on earth he was let off with two slaps and the second one was weak as hell. Everybody else got beat down hard great ending BTW. So anyways Kaval is my front runner as my favorite on NXT. Kaval NXT Break Out Star :worship:.
 
Did anyone else who had never heard him speak before, think he sounded an awful lot like Carlito? Just an observation. This will be a very interesting pairing. And at least we know we wont have to see him in too many tag matches, with his pros being women and all. And like some before me had said, it'll be interesting to see if they let him do the "warrior's way" move. I don't know if anyone has ever been injured by it, but it just looks so damn dangerous.
 

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