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no they r doin the same thing they did with cena they want to buils suspense as to who he is going to face at wrestlemania
did anyone else think that rvd vs. holly was a very solid match except for the botched first attempt at the alabama slam

even with the botched attempt, they fixed it buy throwing him to the ropes and then trying again. at least he didn't pin him in the first spot. I like the ECW original rebellion although Im curious as to why RVD wasn't there unless he was to "hurt" to come out. I like the Undertaker thing but I think he is choosing Batista although a Cena match up wouldn't be bad and would remove Shawn and edge from such a big spot at WM. I hope that changes do take place. WSX wasn't horrible for their first show so Vince needs to put out a product the Fans WANT to see not what Vince wants to see. I think ripping on the originals was great (as long as the originals got o do what they did). The fans were great and it made the original revolt better. Next week an ECW optimist has hope.
 
rvd wasnt out there because he wasnt confronted by mcmahon backstage
undertaker will choose batista
hopefully not cena because then it will take away a big mania match for hbk and edge as realblackheart said
but then i dont want him to face batista because he is going to lose which is gonna cause some drama
 
the best part of tonights show other then the rvd holly match was when joey styles said that the undertaker is going to challenge lashly for the title, i fell out of my fing chair as that was just to funny :lol2:
 
even with the botched attempt, they fixed it buy throwing him to the ropes and then trying again. at least he didn't pin him in the first spot. I like the ECW original rebellion although Im curious as to why RVD wasn't there unless he was to "hurt" to come out. I like the Undertaker thing but I think he is choosing Batista although a Cena match up wouldn't be bad and would remove Shawn and edge from such a big spot at WM. I hope that changes do take place. WSX wasn't horrible for their first show so Vince needs to put out a product the Fans WANT to see not what Vince wants to see. I think ripping on the originals was great (as long as the originals got o do what they did). The fans were great and it made the original revolt better. Next week an ECW optimist has hope.

It was better when he did it to Cena. Doing it to Lashley didn't really work well for me. Because I kind of saw it comming where as I did not see the one with Cena comming.

Also about the Holly/RVD match, I agree with what you said and liked it as well. Holly sold his back pain being the reason for batching the alabama slamma well. I did not watch WSX today. I been saw it since Friday. It was on late friday at 11:30 or 10:30 or something. It was pretty good.
 
PLEASE NO MORE LASHLEY VS TEST!! Joey styles at the end saying that taker will challenge lashley.Everyone knows that aint gonna happen.To me The ECW title is a joke.As a matter of fact,ECW is a joke.I like mostly everyone thats on ECW but all the matches should be extreme or they should just get rid of it.
 
This espisode is further proof that Vince needs to retire and let someone else steer the ship. Either that or he lets Shane fully run Smackdown (it couldn't get any worse) and Paul E. FULLY run ECW. RVD jobbing to Holly when he was handily kicking his ass only a few months ago? F**king brilliant. Lashley vs. Test was the best thing this side of a positive urine sample. It basically was the wrestling equivalent of two Silverback gorillas performing a mating ritual while wearing spandex. The appearance of the Undertaker was so awesome I almost threw up. Why don't they just start building the Batista/Undertaker feud so that everyone will know in advance exactly how bad Wrestlemania is going to be. I really loved the segment of Vince walking his way through the arena and not letting any of the scripting involve ANY of the ECW originals doing anything in return, when the old show would've had them beat someone's ass for smarting off like that in a heartbeat. Man, what a joke. Striker and Punk wasn't horrible, but was too short and lacked momentum. That, and the finish blew goats. Steve Armstrong is the most blind referee in the history of the sport (granted the blame also goes to Striker for making his rope-hold obvious beyond reprieve).
 
ECW is beyond help. During this episode...

CM Punk remains in the doghouse (I don't know how long he's signed for, but he would be smart to get out while he can)

RVD does a clean job to perennial curtain jerker Hardcore Holly (clearly, he's getting buried)

Extreme Expose (c'mon, Vince, was it smart to put this up while Wrestling Society X was getting started? What would we rather see, hardcore wrestling or a PG-rated striptease? Hmmmm...) which was interrupted by Mr. McMahon stating the obvious - that he hates the old ECW. What transpired after that was predictable and boring, and isn't enough to get any true ECW fan's hopes up.

Bobby Lashley vs. Test for the millionth time - another boring match, Lashley wins again (that means the feud is over - or so we hope), followed by the oh-so-shocking Undertaker run-in.

I would like to know what all of you people who were saying back in June "give it time, I'm sure it will get much better" are thinking now. ECW was legendary. WWECW is a putrid pile of cow manure.

I urge every fan of the old ECW to watch WSX. It kills WWECW and has Justin Credible and New Jack, among others. There are definitely difference in production and presentation, but this is the closest thing to the hardcore side of ECW on TV today. Hopefully it wins out and Vinnie Mac has to either change or bury ECW once and for all.
 
Result's 30th January

# Matt Striker def. CM Punk
# Hardcore Holly def. Rob Van Dam
# ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley def. Test

Why did they have Punk do the job to somebody who was'nt worthy enough for them to enter the Rumble? For fuck's sake anybody can get in the Rumble. If they insist on having him loose would'nt it make more sence to have Monty Brown go over him? At least (for the time being) it look's like he will be recieving a decent push.

Maybe they think if they push Holly hard enough he might start to get over. I doubt it. It was a miracle that they got Mark Henry over as a monster (Batista helped by being a clumsy oaf and tearing his back.) I dont think they can do it again.
 
I Think that punk doesnt deserve to still be in the doghouse. He is over with the fans and has reasonable in ring ability.
 
WWE's petty like that they'll sacrifice potentially million's in merchandise just to punish someone. Sean O'Haire would be huge if WWE had'nt sent him to O.V.W. because Triple H felt threatened by his physique and athletisism. To see how petty WWE just remember how they tried to embarras Lita at the Survivor Series.
 
The following is from ECW.com:

Hell to pay
February 6, 2007

According to Jonathan Coachman on Raw, the ECW Originals will have hell to pay this week live on ECW on Sci Fi. This comes just one week after the Originals' uprising last Tuesday that saw Sandman, Balls Mahoney, Tommy Dreamer and Sabu obliterate Elijah Burke. On top of that, they also interrupted Mr. McMahon's first-ever appearance in the Land of Extreme. What level of hell will the ECW Originals walk into this week? After seeing the punishment Balls Mahoney endured at the hands of Umaga on Raw, you can guarantee it will be a long night for the Originals.

Tune in to ECW on Sci Fi at 10/9 CT for all this and more.
 
So Bob Holly v Bob Lashley. And Lashley has defended a million times in the last month. Think he's dropping tonight?
 
I don't think Lashely will drop the ECW title until at least Wrestlemania. Its obvious that Vince likes the guy and I don't he'll drop the title with such little fanfare. I'm actually looking forward to the angle with the ECW originals, if done correctky (and that's a big if) this could be an angle that can spark some interest back into the ECW... I'm guessing WSX has something to do with this.
 
Edge and Cena swapped the belt a few times b4 they had their big PPV finale. No reason to think it might not happen again.

It would give a chance for Vince to push his OTHER ECW men too. Monty Brown could get involved maybe. Either way I have Holly on my Fantasy team and he better pick me up more than 8 points! I was banking on a 20 pointer Alabama Slam winner.
 
Result's 6th February.

# Kevin Thorn def. Tommy Dreamer
# ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley def. Hardcore Holly (non-title)
# Marcus Cor Von def. Balls Mahoney
# Elijah Burke def. Rob Van Dam

And the debut of Uber Heel Snitzky. Mania is going to completley rock now.
 
Result's 13 th February


# ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley def. Hardcore Holly (Extreme Rules Match)
# Marcus Cor Von & Kevin Thorn def. Tommy Dreamer & Sandman
# CM Punk def. Mike Knox
# Elijah Burke & Matt Striker def. Rob Van Dam & Sabu
 
What'd you guys think of last nights ECW? I was switching back and forth between ECW and WSX, and have to say that WSX won in match quality.

God, someone save ECW before it dies...I can't stand too many more Mike Knox, Kevin Thorn, Marcus Cor Von, and Matt Striker matches. They're all so god damn terrible. The New Breed is horrible except for Lashley.
 
I fell asleep twice during the event. I still think it's funny that they try to push Sandman as a plain-jane wrestler. Lashley and Holly were rightly placed at the top of the batting order as their match was as exciting as watching a couple of snails mate. Other than that, it was passable and Mike Knox actually looked decent in his match with Punk and really took Punk's offense well.
 
I still don't agree with the fact that the Originals are getting shunned like they are now, but I guess the WWE has their reasons for doing this. I suppose it is getting everything they can out of guys like Sabu and RVD while they can before they get the hell out of there. This feud could do wonders for guys like Striker and Burke, but it really deepens the hole that RVD and the others are in. It seemed like the same old shit and turned out to be another crap night for the Originals in the feud they are never going to win. It's a shame that Knox is back though but looks to be buried anyway. Holly and Lashley proved the crowd doesn't give two shits about the current ECW main event picture from what I have heard.

Again, it sounds boring and indifferent to the other ECW's that they have been showing, but I guess we can't expect much from a company that will take backstage issues over true talent. It's a shame that they aren't letting them even get a win in this feud but I like hearing that Paul Heyman could make an appearance but they won't let him add anything to ECW as he is just there so Vince feels big. ECW just sucks again in my opinion because the first Extreme Rules match they have had in a while (I think) was wasted on those two guys and the results were bad in my opinion.
 
I am fearful for Kennedy being involved in an ECW program, because he deserves better than that. He is in the main event tomorrow for the ECW title against Lashley and Holly, and I hope he doesn't lose credibility because Lashley won't lose. He doesn't belong there and was doing great on SmackDown and I would see anyone like him moving to ECW as punishment, even if it was for the title. That is the first step to losing wrestlers in my opinion, because it has pissed more than a few people off.

I hope ECW keeps up the solid stuff they have been showing lately (solid for their standards anyway) and I hope the originals can go over this week because it would be great for the feud and they deserve it. One more loss could completely bury these guys, but at the same time, it would put over the new guys which is a good thing, but a competitive feud would be great for both sides and I hope we see that instead of this ECW original doghouse crap.
 
What'd you guys think about tonight's ECW? I thought it okay, medoicre at best. Kevin Thorn continues to be the stiffest dude in wrestling. I'm glad CM Punk defeated Nitro, though I gotta say I was surprisingly impressed with some of the aerial kicks Nitro got in.

Why the HELL is La Resistance on ECW? That makes no sense at all, why does Vince really truly hate ECW fans? What was the point of the 10 second squash match with two guys who they didn't even announce, just some local jobbers. That match was pointless, and even more pointless was when Snitsky came in and delivered a couple of boots. This guy looks and acts way too much like Kane, and further more I don't think anybody cares for him. You can't get heat from just beating up jobbers who nobody knows. Jesus, can that guy.

Extreme Expose was it's usual crappiness, though it gives me an excuse to check out Kelly Kelly some more. The main event I thought was okay, nothing special. When did it become an extreme rules match though? They said nothing about it being extreme rules and than like halfway through the match a chair starts getting used and suddenly its extreme rules?

And jesus can we PLEASE stop having Lashley defend the ECW title on every episode of ECW, we get it Vince, he's your new guy, he's unstoppable, gotcha, stop making us watch Lashley in matches we always know he'll win (when he really doesn't deserve to win over guys like Holly and Kennedy).

Overall, another lackluster ECW show. You guys agree?
 
I Think Ecw Could Be Alot Better Then They Make It Be...they Need To Bring In The Tv Title Though So They Could Be A Point To Some Of The Matches
 
Result's February 20th

* Rob Van Dam def. Kevin Thorn
* CM Punk def. Johnny Nitro in a Money in the Bank qualifying match
* La Resistance def. Los Luchas
* ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley def. Hardcore Holly & Mr. Kennedy (Triple Threat Match)

I'm glad Punk is on the W.M. card. Although I would have liked to see Nitro in the match as well. I dont think I've ever seen Punk in a ladder match.

I dont see the point of puttoin La Res in ECW when they never used there other tag team the F.B.I..

And why could'nt Lashley have pinned Holly?
 
That seemed like another decent ECW and I am liking Dusty Rhode's booking because he is adding something I can't quite put my finger on to ECW. Hmm, maybe it is the fact that we want to watch ECW a little now and while I am not saying we are overly eager for it, we at least have some interest with new storylines and wrestlers, etc. While it is miles away from what it should be and while it will never reach any form of what it used to be, these last few weeks at least show a tiny bit of hope for the future. But then again, the guys that could be improving it are set to be leaving and rightfully so, but it is good to see the WWE utilising their talents a little in ECW before they are gone for the shit that the WWE has heaped on them.

I am glad RVD got the win because he definitely deserved it, and the feud seems to be getting a little better each week. The match seemed decent so that is good for Thornes reputation, but I am just glad that the Originals actually looked good for once in this otherwise uncompetitive feud.

I wasn't too shocked to hear of CM Punk going to the MITB match because that is where he should be and while I don't think he will win, he will add something to the match and it will be a good test for him. Again, Nitro can't get the win and he looks shaky, but I hope they go for a Hardys and MNM match at Wrestlemania with some sort of stipulation and I hope it is a good match because it they have been the only people to have feuded for months and who look like having a grudge match at Wrestlemania, but it needs some reinvigoration to the feud if they are going to have it though.

La Resistance was interesting, and I went into that in another thread. Snitsky was just doing what he looks like doing for the next few months and that was just destroying random people. I have never really liked the guy but he could do well as a monster on ECW.

The main event seemed good for Lashleys standards, but I see no reason why Kennedy has to be involved here and I hope they don't can him by putting him on ECW. I would like Extreme Rules but I guess the no DQ element was enough. I don't think anyone was hurt and it definitely benefited Lashley in their desperate attempt to get him over as their champion. While I think RVD is the deserving champion, they are building Lashley well, although that could turn out to be a Cena-like too well in my opinion. He is not the right guy to carry ECW, but then again, it's only ECW and the champ there doesn't matter. Again, it was a decent main event but I don't like the idea of title matches each week and that Kennedy was involved.

Overall, I would upgrade the show from a C minus to a flat C. It was nowhere near what we would like to see, but it was better than last week and better than usual so I guess they can be commended for that. The feuds are getting good and ECW looks stable for the moment.
 
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