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[Official] Chris Benoit Memorial Thread

OK ive read all the posts here, i agree with some of you disagree wiht others.

First of all i would like to think he didnt do it. but likely he did i kno where not here to speculate, but whats speculation about believing a police report? I ask you to think about walking onto a crime scene, if there is any doubt in the cops minds do you think the report would have came out??? Think about it, walking into a crime scene, where murder weapons are found, three dead bodies... an average person could tell who the victims and who the murderer was. so maybe im just too trusting in police or maybe i jump to conclusions, but all i kno is what the police report was and that is that he did it. It sadens me to think that anyone would do this, let alone someone who i see on TV every week.

What you two sides are fighting about is unimportant in this hour...we kno his character will be missed, we kno his wrestling skills will be missed...but i think that maybe until everything is sorted out in your minds dont you think that maybe you shouldnt post anything about it on a website. do you really want to have complements about him if he did it 100%? If you can look past it and still complement his accomplishments, which some think there were many than thats your choice, but its one im not willing to make. We should not make the mistake of saying anything until 100% proven, compliments or put downs...becuase if comes down do if he didnt do it, then many will feel bad...but on the worse side, if he did do it, than you have just complimented a murderer...there are some things that overshadow a stellar life and that is one of them.
 
this my second post n i cant jus sit here and read these comments about benoit as a murderer and a baby killer and how you lost ur respect towards him everybody automaticly assumed benoit but weve seen him wrestle give his sweat and blood for 22 years we know who benoit is in the ring we dnt kno who he is outside the ring who r u 2 say he killed his family n whoever posted their fav match as the hardcore match shud be banned how igorant do u have to be 2 poke funat the dead wat if sum1 tlked about ur loved ones who have passed on u pretty much pissed on his grave also whoever posted eddie and chris 2gether again in hell is a real class act its amazing how dense and ignorant people can be who the hell are u 2 decide who goes 2 heaven or who goes to hell the only thing we know is that we lost a hero yes a HERO. h-e-r-o get that threw ur thick skulls i wudve never guessed hardocre wrestling fans can be so so so pathetic a man and his family die and u start pointing fingers wen all u kno is that 3 people died its just disgusting RIP Chris Nancy and Daniel Benoit. RIP
 
no ZONE...i have no respect for him for killing his wife, too...as i would had he killed some stranger on the street...it's about killing period - the child, as i've found, simply seems to drive it home a bit better on these threads

Hey asshole, no one is condoning the murder of an innocent child, but for many of us who have been watching the man in the ring for years, bits and pieces of a news story cannot just destroy our respect for benoit. He was one of my all time favorites. He deserves induction into the hall of fame next april.

I don't understand what could have driven him to murder, but before you condemn him you need to wait to hear the FULL INVESTIGATION. For a reporter, you're doing a hell of alot of speculation.

R.I.P. Chris, your legacy cannot be forgotten, no matter what unfolds in the coming hours and days.
 
I am in complete disarray and discombobulation after hearing such distrubing news just like everyone else in here. How could someone so selfless, classy, and exemplary inside and outside the ring be possibly pushed into killing the two most important people in his life? As we all can imagine, Chris Benoit did not evince some raging dipsomaniac and dopehead that went around taking steriods and OTC prescriptions like they are candy. If this happened to 90% of the other wrestlers in this business, I would not be shocked, but the fact that this shocking event transpired with the most virtuous individual in the business is reprehensible. Now, I know I sound like I am repeating what other people in this board have asserted in the first 14 pages of this thread.

I want to ask everyone in here a question: is there any way that Chris Benoit could have been coerced, threatened, or even framed through this bizarre chain of events? The supposed time frame of his wife and child's death makes it seem impossible that an outsider could have been holding Benoit's family hostage because I doubt Benoit would just allow his son and wife to die and wait one day later to allow himself to get killed. I want to believe that someone framed Benoit and blackmailed him through his family, but I am having a tough time coming to grips with this possibility.

Here is some factors that I felt could have contributed to his alleged suicidal/homicidal behavior.

1) Death of Eddie Guerrero- I doubt Chris Benoit was closer to many people in his life than Eddie Guerrero considering they trained in Japan together, worked in WCW together, fled WCW together, came into WWE together, and worked several matches together spanning across continents and companies all encompassing around 18 years of his existence. Maybe the death of Eddie Guerrero evinced such a heart shattering trauma for Benoit that he could have contracted post traumatic stress disorder in the process.

According to medicine net.com, post-traumatic stress disorder is defined in terms of the trauma itself and the person's response to the trauma. Trauma occurs when a person has experienced, witnessed, or been confronted with a terrible event that is an actual occurrence. Then, the person's response to the event or to the threat involves intense fear, helplessness, and/or horror.

We can apply all three of the characteristics concerning responses to traumatic events of the latter sentence above to Chris Benoit and the effect Eddie Guerrero's death entailed on him. Benoit definitely did possess fear considering the fact that he practically lived with him for 18 years and he died suddenly. This event might have provoked Benoit to contemplate whether his passion of an elongated wrestling career is worth all of the accompanying trauma that could fester his own family and his own body. Benoit definitely felt helplessness considering he could not help Eddie in the final moments of his life when he was able to help Eddie fight other ferocious battles through the years like drug and alcohol abuse. Deep inside, Benoit probably blamed himself for Eddie's death and this blame might have consumed him to a profound end. Most of all, how could Benoit not feel horror for himself after seeing his close comrade die so abruptly of natural causes? I also forgot to mention that people with PTSD are at a significantly increased risk of suicide according to the National Alliance on Medical Illness. Since we can all agree that Benoit was not a druggy, PTSD could probably construe his alleged actions most consummately since it is not caused by excessive drug use or anything of that sort.

2) 5 month "sabbatical"- For someone who oozes such superabundant zeal, passion, and committment for wrestling like Benoit, it seems kind of fishy that he would voluntarily take a 5 month break from wrestling as he did from MAY to October of 2006. I know he needed to recuperate some injuries and spend more time with his family, but I think there is some other rationale beyond just health and family that the WWE refused to divulge to save their image. It would make sense to take 2-3 months off for these basic issues, but 5 months is an excessive layoff for someone who breathes the fervor for the wrestling business that Benoit does. It is not like he suffered a neck injury or tore a quadriceps. Benoit clearly had some extenqating personal issues to attend to and maybe his wife's deteriorating health rehashed the memories of Eddie's death to the point that he may have become despondent.

3) Disatisfaction with his role within WWE- Chris Benoit was a stellar technical wrestler-probably the best in the business- yet, he has been pulled down to the midcard just a few years after his World Heavyweight Title run. If you are Chris Benoit(regardless of how unselfish you really are), it must be depressing to see marginally talented workers like Batista, Mysterio,JBL, and Lashley continuously getting main event matches while you are always pushed to the middle of the PPV because you have been told your mic skills are insufficient. Benoit deserved to be in a main event position gunning for the WHC or the WWE title, yet he continued dangling around with a hapless second tier belt like the U.S. Title that he knew he was excessively skilled for. I doubt he minded putting over MVP at Judgment Day considering he worked long hours to train MVP and improve his in ring work. A few weeks apart from jobbing to MVP, he gets sent to the third tier brand ECW instead of the initial plan of getting sent over to RAW and possibly work a program for the WWE title. The stern glass ceiling that hovered over Benoit amidst the WWE workplace must have driven him to a breaking point eventually. How many times will he continue getting backstabbed just because he is not an adept backstage politician or a remarkable demagogue on the mic? Benoit would not just skip his wrestling committments on a Saturday and PPV on Sunday unless he felt disillusioned or indifferent towards his work-kind of how he felt late in his tenure at WCW. If Benoit is thwarting his wrestling committments, it shows he has lost interest in his life's work, signalling severe depression that could further lead to suicidal behavior. If any of you could put yourself in Benoit's shoes, imagine yourself hypothetically losing interest in an activity that has become your life and sole means of income and having no other place to go, would you contemplate suicide?

4) All wrestlers/celebrities live secret lives- Superficially, Chris Benoit might have been a happy go lucky, caring, sensitive, and passionate family guy, but how do we really know this for sure? Can we be certain that he was not an abusive husband or father and that his wife and son might have been too scared to report it. This is the same Chris Benoit that backstabbed his first wife by engaging in an affair with Deborah. The fact that he committed adultery puts him far away from being a cherubic human being by any standards. How many people in the 1990's knew that Michael Jordan was a compulsive gambler and cheated on his wife? How many people in the 1960's knew that Elvis Prescley was a drunkard and a wife beater? How many people actually know the truth of legitimate American heroes such as JFK, Babe Ruth, Mickie Mantle, and various others. The bottom line is that most of we know about Benoit is merely perception, but it may be far from reality. His possible secret life may have pushed him over the edge. I think the content of the "weird" text messages should clear all this up.

Please do not view this as a tirade against Chris Benoit, but rather as a means of elucidating the situation.
 
I really think shouting and swearing at each other ain't going to solve or prove anything.

Pack it in..
 
Indeed, this will be debated for ages to come...

Anyone of you, thats thinks they can give 22 years of your life, putting up with 50,000 people every single night. I dare you, to do it.

If you take away the murder portion. If you take away the suicide portion. Would any of you assholes say the same shit? Would you still condemn a man's career after he has died? I agree that the investigation reeks, but as I said, no one, will take this like a grain of salt. This will be debated for years upon years. For now, I ask all of you, to shut the hell up about "Benoit the murderer" and take into account the countless things he has done for your fucking entertainment.

If he is innocent, I hope every last one of your assholes chokes on your damn words. If he is guilty, I will forever remember Chris Benoit for who I knew him as, and not the monster he became. I'm done reading these threads... I apologize for any offense I dished out, but this is the last time I will speak on this until I know all the details.
 
Why keep referring to people as assholes mate?

Is there really much need for it? No I don't think so.

Excellent post SasuurKaNaathi, A good analysis of events leading to this tragedy.
 
If it's true. If he did indeed kill his family then there's no way he deserves induction into the hall of fame. And furthermore whether he deserves induction into anything shouldn't be an issue right now.
 
Why keep referring to people as assholes mate?

Is there really much need for it? No I don't think so.

Excellent post SasuurKaNaathi, A good analysis of events leading to this tragedy.

You are not a Mod... DC is, and he is well within his rights to use that word. This is a difficult time for everyone and everyone is going to say things that are not usually in their character.
 
mj2sexay...its a WRESTLING hall of fame not nice people hall of fame.

of course he deserves to be inducted as he was a great WRESTLER
at the moment i wont say anything on the murder..suicide...watevr the whole thing , i do not think we should be ranting on about that right now. at least not untill we get ALL the details
 
I dont really know what to say or to feel. If he did kill his wife and son, I feel guilty about being saddened by his loss. I know that I have the right to miss him, but it feels wrong. And even as a psychology major, I am having a hard time justifying my grief. I just dont understand. I am so confused. I wish I knew all the details now. I need to know them now. If I get them later they may help, but they may also cause me more hurt. I'm sorry if I am ranting. I am just really upset and confused about this whole thing.
 
D-x are yous serious? I hope that the facts are wrong thus far but being in the hall of fame is an honor saved for those that represent the wrestling business and THEMSELVES with dignity honor and class. This might be the darkest day in wrestling not only because we lost one of if not the best technical wrestlers in the history of the game, but because a man that we all thought stood for pride, honor and dignity took the easy way out and more then that took his wife, and 7 year old child with him. Do I hope that the conclusion the police have reached is wrong? Yes. And it's possible. But if the worst is true then unfortunately we have to regard Chris Benoit for what he ultimately is; a coward.
 
You are not a Mod... DC is, and he is well within his rights to use that word. This is a difficult time for everyone and everyone is going to say things that are not usually in their character.

I did not claim to be a mod, however having mods calling everyone assholes isn't the way forward either.

This is destressing time for everyone, but loosing your temper and swearing at people - not just DC but anyone will only rile people more and make them more upset/angry.

I will probably get banned because I questioned a mods attitude, but it will only prove my point.
 
No matter what the findings of this terrible incident are, to me benoit will always be remembered as one of the best technical wrestlers. period. He gave excellent performances every time he set foot in the ring, he was a true performer and a throwback to the days when skill really counted in the ring. He was a true master of his craft, and loved it so much a broken neck didn't stop him from climbing the mountain.

RIP Chris you will be sorely missed.
 
Does anyone know if there is ANY possibility, whatsoever, of a fourth party being involved? Dear God, I'm hopeful...
 
i just can't believe that he could hes gone on the record saying he loves his family more than anything in the world and for a man like that to commit a crime where he does that

i just can't comprehend he would do that
 
maybe he was going through some rough times with his wife and got depressed and thought of no other way but who knows and i shouldnt be accusing him when were not 100% sure anyway
 
Has anyone ever thought it was his wife that could have killed them all? Maybe she was under extream pressure of having a husband that is away from home alot, bringing up a son with his Daddy away getting all the fame.

I know there saying Benoit died last, but how do they know that before a post mortem?

Just a thought.

Second thought too, could have even gone home and found his wife and child dead, and he was destrought and killed himself...
 
This...is beyond comprehension. This is something that no one expected, and everyone hates to hear. It is beyond belief that someone like Chris Benoit, can just suddenly be gone. How? Why? How can a man so respected, and such a great man be taken from this world? Why is he taken like this?

I'm going to have to say to anyone that thinks what happened yesterday should be put ahead of everything that Benoit had achieved in his career, and the respect he earned as a man throughout his life, to stuff it.

Benoit had the respect of every single wrestling fan alive today, and the fact that some people are going to shit on his career is disgusting. Like DC has said, we don't know all the details of what happened, and I don't frankly want to know, because it's a very upsetting, distressing situation, and one that I just can't believe happened, and don't want to believe happened.

When I came on tonight, I almost froze when I saw the main page of WWE.com. Reading the words "Chris Benoit and his family have died at their home' was one of the hardest things I've ever had to read, and one that no one wants to read. It's just something that no one can believe, actually happened.

The shock still hasn't set in, and this death is going to send shockwaves throughout the wrestling world. Without a doubt, one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, is gone, and no one was prepared for it. Any wrestler who said something about Benoit throughout his career, would have had a huge amount of respect in it, because that was just the man he was. When you have the respect of every single one of your wrestling peers, that is a sure sign that you are one hell of a wrestler, and this is one way to describe Benoit.

Throughout his career, he had matches that were unbelievable, and the talent this guy had is not to be underestimated or even acknowledged anywhere below being 'Awesome'. Chris Benoit should not be remembered for whatever happened yesterday, because that is fogetting 40 years of this guy's life, and almost an entire life dedicated to the business we all love. Like JR and King said tonight, there is only one word to describe Benoit....respect, and everyone should be showing it.
 
Words of wisdom DownwardSpiral

I don't think we're ever going to find out what exactly happend yesterday, but whatever the final report says, I'm going to remember Benoit as we all should, an amazing talent in the ring
 
Why are you all agrueing right now?! No one knows for sure yet what really happened, and there is the chance that no one will. And quite frankly, if the reports are true, I still refuse to look at Chris as a murderer. He has done way to much in his career for people to forget all that. Besides, they said he left because of a "family emergency" on Sunday, so chances are, somthing big was going on. So whoever said that he was an abusive husband earlier can go to fucking hell for it. He wasn't a bad man. Even if he did kill them,which I doubt, but there was probably a reason. I'm not saying a good reason, because there is no good reason for murder, but there might have been one. Didn't I read somewheres that someone said that Benoits wife and son were spitting up blood, and thats what the emergency was? It might have been a report, it might have just been someone ranting on these forums.

But anyways, untill there is more on the situation, and even afterwards, Benoit was a good person. RIP Benoit Family.
 
Chris was easily one of the most gifted wrestlers in the business and always has been. I remember his debut on WWE like it was yesterday with the whole Radicalz angle and knowing just how good he was from WCW. He had several excellant matches with Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle not long after proving that he was and was to contiue to be one of the greatest members of the WWE family. RIP Chris.
 
The fact that those who knew him are so shocked and not one has said anything but what a good man Chris was is all the evidence needed that a severe mental illness, even one that manifested quickly was responsible rather than the man they knew and loved.

Should Chris be deemed responsible then those who want to make him a pariah will do so, but bear one thing in mind... he will have lived, even for a short time of the knowledge of his actions... that is the ultimate punishment... and we are not qualified to judge him as a man... only as the performer we knew and loved...

A lot of crap will be thrown around in the weeks and months to come particularly about Benoit's legacy being tarnished, but it comes down to this... Was this the act of an evil person? Or an Ill one? He is not the first "hero" to fall, he is not the first to have mental issues, and he will certainly not be the last... Should Phil Spector be found guilty would you never listen to a song again? Of course not...now is a time to reflect on what is important to us all and remember that flawed genius is still genius and the pleasure that genius has given can never be undone, only re-evaluated...

3 people who were loved by their friends and families are gone... and there but by the grace of god... It could have been anyone of us!
 
The WWE website wouldn't put up the suspicion of Benoit killing his wife and 7 year old son unless it was almost 100% positive. Benoit was clearly roided up but I still don't understand how someone could kill their 7 year old son. Even though it's sickening, I can understand a motive to kill your wife...perhaps she cheated on him...but what could his little 7 year old son have done?!?!? He was clearly more screwed up than we know.

These wrestlers drop like flies...less than half of them live past their 40's now a days. They need to do something about this. Maybe create an off season? Maybe that's how they should use the 2 brands. Have one at one part of the season and the other another time...this way the wrestlers get to have a rest and see their family and try to live a normal life. Benoit clearly had no problem killing his own flesh and blood 7 year old baby boy because he barely even knew him as it was. He was on the road all the time. Had no guilt.
 

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