[OFFICIAL] 2010 Debater's League Shit-Talking Thread

Triple H's Reign As Champion, in buy rates:

.75. (Unforgiven)
.77 (No Mercy)
.86 (Survivor Series, don't get too excited there. 2001's buyrate was a 1.)
.87 (Armageddon)
.95 (Royal Rumble Down from 1.6 from the last year. Yes, it was driven down a whole .55)
.95
1.4 (Again, Wrestlemania right there, and even then. that was down a whole .2.)

Doesn't look too bad there, does it? I mean, yes, the numbers are decreased from last year, but still not horrific, right? Let's go a little further

.56 (Down from .8 last year)
.58 (Down from .79 last year)
.73 (Down from .9 last year, as King of the Ring)
.74 (Down from 1.32 at last year's Summerslam)
.46 (Down from .77 Last Year)
.73 (Down from .86 at last year's Survivor Series)
.40 (Down from .87 at last year's Armageddon)

Opinions are opinions. Buy Rates never lie.

Awesome chart.
 
Then you remember the ratings then right? I wouldn't know because I stopped watching wrestling for that time.

I didn't give two shits about ratings back then.

Triple H's Reign As Champion, in buy rates:

.75. (Unforgiven)
.77 (No Mercy)
.86 (Survivor Series, don't get too excited there. 2001's buyrate was a 1.)
.87 (Armageddon)
.95 (Royal Rumble Down from 1.6 from the last year. Yes, it was driven down a whole .55)
.95
1.4 (Again, Wrestlemania right there, and even then. that was down a whole .2.)

Doesn't look too bad there, does it? I mean, yes, the numbers are decreased from last year, but still not horrific, right? Let's go a little further

.56 (Down from .8 last year)
.58 (Down from .79 last year)
.73 (Down from .9 last year, as King of the Ring)
.74 (Down from 1.32 at last year's Summerslam)
.46 (Down from .77 Last Year)
.73 (Down from .86 at last year's Survivor Series)
.40 (Down from .87 at last year's Armageddon)

Opinions are opinions. Buy Rates never lie.

Eh, I guess. I'm sure there's more to it than just Trips but I see your point.
 
Eh, I guess. I'm sure there's more to it than just Trips but I see your point.

Did you notice the .46, and the .40?

Those were numbers for PPVs that were exclusively Raw, meaning that Triple H and Goldberg were the only main event "draw".

I check your mate, good sir.
 
Did you notice the .46, and the .40?

Those were numbers for PPVs that were exclusively Raw, meaning that Triple H and Goldberg were the only main event "draw".

I check your mate, good sir.

Goldberg wasn't ever a draw in the WWE, and Trips isn't a huge draw either so those PPVs had no shot at selling well.
 
Statistics mean nothing to the individual and ratings and buy rates mean nothing to me.

The important question is did/does HHH entertain me? Yes

End of my part in this discussion
 
So, Tenta.

You are claiming that Triple H kept the main event talent away from him and Goldberg and him were the only main event talent on Raw and then go on to blame the low ratings on his Championship run. A smart man would just blame it on the lack of main event talent on that show.
 
Guys guys guys, save the debating when it starts ok ;).

We just need to see who's interested. I can see a high interest in judging, but would like to see more for participants. So atm, I'm just looking for paticipants given the eagerness to judge.

Currently I have:
  1. GC
  2. The Crock
  3. Tenta
  4. Disarray
  5. Ferbian
  6. Blue Cardinal
  7. Mr. Angel (?)

Anymore?

Possible Judges:
  1. Phoenix
  2. Tdigs
  3. CH David (for fears of rape)
  4. Morris Dewey
  5. Numbers
  6. Dave
 
Phoenix, can you edit your post to include the list of possible judges, too? Since you already started consolidated them, it would be nice to have everything in one post.
 
So, Tenta.

You are claiming that Triple H kept the main event talent away from him and Goldberg and him were the only main event talent on Raw and then go on to blame the low ratings on his Championship run. A smart man would just blame it on the lack of main event talent on that show.

Which becomes a shit argument when you realize that to make stars, you have to have them go over your stars, at the right time. RVD, Booker T, Chris Jericho, all names who could have used a world title run, and were never given it.

Again, it's one thing when you try to make stars. Angle and Taker did. Name me one superstar that was made from Triple H, that isn't in his little clique of buddies.

As to those that argue numbers, LOLZ. You can argue most things. Buy Rates? Yeah, good fucking luck there
 
Well, now we all know Tenta will probably get top seed.

Dude, why the FUCK weren't you in it last year?!? I wanted a piece of you SOOOO bad...
 
Phoenix, can you edit your post to include the list of possible judges, too? Since you already started consolidated them, it would be nice to have everything in one post.

Done.

Best keep the list on the first post so it doesn't get lost in the mix.
 
Which becomes a shit argument when you realize that to make stars, you have to have them go over your stars, at the right time. RVD, Booker T, Chris Jericho, all names who could have used a world title run, and were never given it.

Again, it's one thing when you try to make stars. Angle and Taker did. Name me one superstar that was made from Triple H, that isn't in his little clique of buddies.

As to those that argue numbers, LOLZ. You can argue most things. Buy Rates? Yeah, good fucking luck there

I'm not arguing the numbers.

I am arguing how relevant and credible they are. People would have wanted to see the more complete show and Smackdown was definitely the more complete show at that time. Blame Triple H for that all you want but I wouldn't put it down to not being a draw as a Champion. Well, at least not completely.
 
I swear, some of you are right ***** :disappointed:. If you don't pick me as a judge, guys, I'll debate. But, please only put me in the debaters category if you need the people.
 
Guys guys guys, save the debating when it starts ok ;).

We just need to see who's interested. I can see a high interest in judging, but would like to see more for participants. So atm, I'm just looking for paticipants given the eagerness to judge.

Currently I have:
  1. GC
  2. The Crock
  3. Tenta
  4. Disarray
  5. Ferbian
  6. Blue Cardinal
    [*]Барбоса (?)
  7. Mr. Angel (?)

Anymore?

Possible Judges:
  1. Phoenix
  2. Tdigs
  3. CH David (for fears of rape)
  4. Morris Dewey
  5. Numbers
  6. Dave

No thanks

VVV

Барбоса;2240818 said:
I would be somewhat interested if it weren't for the virtual certainty that I would have to debate something I am not in the slightest bit interested in.

My general ambivalence to most things always seems to get in the way
 
Well, now we all know Tenta will probably get top seed.

Dude, why the FUCK weren't you in it last year?!? I wanted a piece of you SOOOO bad...

Well, it started in September. Before that, I was really uncertain when I'd be coming back to the forums after, you know, and I didn't want to like be the guy that never showed up.

Besides that, it seems as though we have a case of people wanting to judge. To that, I really have to say, guys, come the fuck on. You know how many posters were made from this League? D-Man was always good, this was the point everyone realized he was one of the best posters here. Same can be said for Lariat. Is it a commitment? Well, sure, but what isn't on these fucking forums? I say it often, to be the best on here, you have to debate the best on here. Don't run behind a voting podium, get in on the action. To me, you have to prove you're better than me, or everyone else on these forums.

Oh, and Chi, you're still down 1-nil to me. ;)
 
I'm not arguing the numbers.

I am arguing how relevant and credible they are. People would have wanted to see the more complete show and Smackdown was definitely the more complete show at that time. Blame Triple H for that all you want but I wouldn't put it down to not being a draw as a Champion. Well, at least not completely.

Well, again, he had all the chances to put anyone on the show. It's said by numerous reports he completely avoided Lesnar, I wouldn't be shocked to see he avoided Angle, and anyone else that affected his appeal in the WWE, either from a wrestling standpoint, or a drawing standpoint.

Sir, I check your mate.
 

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