No Way Out -Get rid?

[OIL]

Thinking about it, what does No Way Out actually achieve?

After the Royal Rumble, everything should be focused on WrestleMania. The storylines are geared towards that, the promotion is geared towards WrestleMania and the wrestlers should be preparing for the biggest show of the year in sports entertainment.

But, there's a stop gap. No Way Out. A distraction. I know recently the elimination chamber gimmick has made more people interested in the PPV, but seriously, No Way Out should go.

Why should the WWE need another PPV before WrestleMania? One title match is pretty much set up following the winner of the Royal Rumble. Then, the other title could quite easily have a match set up from a good fued. It's not beyond the writers to script that, I hope. If they still want to do the Elimination Chamber, why don't they have a 3 hour RAW where that's the main event? It would spike ratings, and it means the wrestlers don't have other distractions.

The money spent on advertising No Way Out could quite easily be spent on WrestleMania, in any way, shape or form. Sure, No Way Out generates money, but the WWE isn't exactly short of that. Focus everything on WrestleMania. It allows a longer, more deep fued going into the matches. Most of the matches are made from No Way Out onwards, and it's not long to hook people into the matches.

Anyway, I say get rid of No Way Out.

 

[Hacksaw Highway]

I think No Way Out is primarily used to build up for Mania. The Rumble is the start of a lot of things, hence it being the start of the Road to WrestleMania, and a lot of these stories and feuds started at the Rumble or earlier are then advanced at NWO. Matches at NWO never solve a feud, they just build it up more so that by the time people get to Mania, the momentum is bigger.

 

[just a wwe fan man]

what else are they going to do, Nothing No PPV ? they can't not have a PPV batween RR & WM Monthly PPV's area given event for the WWE. If anything they need to make more permanent PPV's. like NOC was a good PPV & I can see it around for a while.

But I'm tired of Juggment Day I mean com on, Juggment day once a year. Or the Bash, presumably WCW's Bash at the Beach. Extream rules might be a keeper.

I don't like the lesser PPV as you said NWO & backlash I forget the name the X-mas ECW PPV that needs to go. They should twelve all year around PPV'S. Like WM, SS, RR, NOC are keepers for sure.

 

[CoreyGrandy]

what else are they going to do, Nothing No PPV ? they can't not have a PPV batween RR & WM Monthly PPV's area given event for the WWE. If anything they need to make more permanent PPV's. like NOC was a good PPV & I can see it around for a while.

But I'm tired of Juggment Day I mean com on, Juggment day once a year. Or the Bash, presumably WCW's Bash at the Beach. Extream rules might be a keeper.

I don't like the lesser PPV as you said NWO & backlash I forget the name the X-mas ECW PPV that needs to go. They should twelve all year around PPV'S. Like WM, SS, RR, NOC are keepers for sure.

The only December ECW PPV was December to Dismember. It only ever happened twice - 1995 and 2006 - somehow, I think (being that it's 2009 and it's been three years) that it's already "gone".

 

[RKO18]

While I love the dual-chamber No Way Out PPV's as of late, I have to agree with the poster on this. 2 years ago Cena burned up his RR shot at NWO and the chambers became the no. 1 contenders matches. kind of defeats the purpose of the winner of RR going to Mania in my opinion.

Last year we didn't even know who Ortons Mania opponent was until AFTER NWO. This sucked because it took all of the attention off of Orton being the RR winner, and his momentu suffered because of it.

I suggest flopping the shows so that we still get the chambers, but RR wil still be huge. you could have a six week break between The Rumble and WM, but still keep the same # of PPV's

 

[Age of Orton]

I had this discussion last weekend with a friend of mine, and we pretty much agreed if WWE felt necessary to have a 2nd ppv of the year heading into Mania, they why not have that a Saturday Night Main Event?

reality is WWE are not bothered about all the PPV's, all they are worried about is the money.. or as Vince would say the Mon-ay... anyways I've said it for a long time I wish WWE would revert back to 5 or 6 per year, well even one every 6 weeks and then 8 weeks after Rumble to hype Mania.

 

[scott hammer cena]

i understand this thread that no way out is pointless

but

i think its great as it is the only ppv that holds the rights 4 elim chambers they greet extreme cheers from wwe fans

 

[OIL]

You're all talking about the chambers. But, why couldn't they just host the chamber match on RAW or SD!? It's easier, and means one less date on the calander for the WWE superstars.

It'd spike up the ratings, no doubt. But other than that, it means the build up for WrestleMania can go un-interrupted, unlike now where NWO needs to be hyped.

 

[Age of Orton]

You're all talking about the chambers. But, why couldn't they just host the chamber match on RAW or SD!? It's easier, and means one less date on the calander for the WWE superstars.

It'd spike up the ratings, no doubt. But other than that, it means the build up for WrestleMania can go un-interrupted, unlike now where NWO needs to be hyped.

as I stated wouldn't a SNME be better? it's an extra show which is free, and would help promote Mania, as well as show some worth by holding a Elimination Chamber to crown a Number 1# Contender for the other World title.

 

[Hacksaw Highway]

I like the idea of the 2 chambers, but insted of having them be title chambers I think Id prefer if the 2 brands with out the RR winner get no 1 contender chambers.

ie. Cena from Raw wins the rumble, so SD and ECW have chambers to determine their no 1 contenders.

 

[RKO18]

That is not a bad idea, but they would have to determine the RR winner matchup before NWO obviously, which would really build up the feud. They should have done that with HHH and Orton this year instead of that bullshit Shane return after The Rumble.

 

[Blade]

This is a stupid idea. No Way Out has arguably been the PPV of the year this year.

Ok, look at it this way. They need at least 2 huge stars in the Royal Rumble. 2 stars that are big enough to headline wrestlemania... A Randy Orton, A Triple H, A HBK, whatever.
So they put some of those huge stars in the Royal Rumble. The Royal Rumble match itself is bigger than the title matches on the Royal Rumble. Hell, the World Title match at this year's rumble had JBL. So anyway, they put the huge stars in the Rumble match, but they may also need them for a headlining Wrestlemania match. No Way Out allows the WWE to put the titles where they need to be going into Wrestlemania. It helps further angles so much.
This year's Rumble was used to put Orton into the main event of Wrestlemania, but also to help further the feud between him and Triple H. So they used No Way Out to put the title on Triple H, so Orton's guarenteed title match at Wrestlemania could be against Triple H, the guy he's feuding with.
It's not that confusing. They shouldn't get rid of No Way Out.

 

[RKO18]

This year's Rumble was used to put Orton into the main event of Wrestlemania, but also to help further the feud between him and Triple H. So they used No Way Out to put the title on Triple H, so Orton's guarenteed title match at Wrestlemania could be against Triple H, the guy he's feuding with.
It's not that confusing. They shouldn't get rid of No Way Out.

You made a couple of good points here, but NWO 09 saw the WWE title and the WHC change hands. That should't happen after the Rumble. You need to know who the winner will face or "choose" to face by two weeks or so after RR. This brings excitement to the #1 contender, not a waiting game until we find out who the champion will be going into Mania. Orton/HHH would have been better with more of a build-up BEFORE Mania.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

are you out of your gord? this fucking show is one of the best of the year, two years running now. The Febuary show was ALWAYS a throw away show before, and now it no longer is, its one of the funnest, most entertaining, unpredictable shows of the year. Can still get title changes, and provides a chance for a mini feud to further get over the rumble winner. Atrocious idea.

 

[pjsdoughboy]

The predictability of pro wrestling is so bad that anyone with any kind of common sense would Not need to purchase NWO anyways just to find out who the RR's winners opponent would be! It's always going to be the person they are feuding with DUH!!! Example Orton won the RR so of course HHH would win the title! They need to be a less obvious about it! But keep the NWO PPV and do what Hacksaw Highway said! That way every brand could get some hype also going into WM.

If you want to stop doing something stop doing the Money in the bank it's a waste of time They could save the winner of this and have him win the RR and put some surprise back into wrestling that is really need. SO the winner would be the underdog that's the idea if the WWE thinks they are worthy of being a champion then they can put their money (no pun intended) where their mouth is and I'm not saying they need to win the title or anything but if the WWE want's to take chances then take a real chance and make a change instead of cramming someone down our throats for a year then give them a title shot.. JUST DO IT and get it over with so people don't get bored with them first.

 

[Decarow]

Why should they move the chambers to SD or Raw when they can make profit off it being a PPV (the PPV, live event itself, and the DVDs)? I 100% agree with what Hacksaw said. But i'll add to it. The RR winner picks which title they want to go after, and then the two remaining shows have their chambers. Ex.- Cena wins RR, but out of the blue decides to go for the ECW championship at WM. That leaves Raw and SD up for grabs in the chambers.

I do not think they should get rid of NWO. The Road to Wrestlemania is a long one. Let's look at the 2006 RTWM. Eddie died in October, therefore WWE let Rey Mysterio win the RR. Leading up to NWO, Orton (who Rey threw out last) picked on Rey until he put his title shot on the line. Orton cheated and won the title shot from Rey, and Teddy Long announced it was now a triple threat at WM. That to me was an amazing storyline in itself. Would not have happened without NWO though.

 

[SavageTaker]

You're all talking about the chambers. But, why couldn't they just host the chamber match on RAW or SD!? It's easier, and means one less date on the calander for the WWE superstars.

It'd spike up the ratings, no doubt. But other than that, it means the build up for WrestleMania can go un-interrupted, unlike now where NWO needs to be hyped.

You’re right; it would increase the ratings for either show if they were to have an Elimination Chamber match on it. But why would Vince do that? Ever since they added the chambers to No Way Out, it has gained lots of pay per view buys. As a matter of fact, it is one of the best selling B-pay per views. It really does seem like a silly idea if the pay per view is getting 300,000+ buys with the chambers and you would want to get rid of it. No Way Out did approximately 218,000 buys in 2007 and that’s when they hadn’t used the EC in that pay per view. Then in 2008 when they had the EC on it the buys shot up to approximately 329,000 buys. That’s a significant gain in buys that justify them not getting rid of the pay per view. Also, if you look at the Wrestlemania buys, they have been very high with No Way out before it. So it’s obviously not affecting the pay per view buys for Wrestlemania at all or much.

Now, Do I want for them to get rid of the pay per view? No. It has become one of the most entertaining pay per views of every year since they added the EC to it in 2008. As a matter of fact I actually think the show makes Wrestlemania more unpredictable because of the fact that we can and have seen title changes at the pay per view. It’s become one of my favorite pay per views every year since 2008 and I don’t want Vince to get rid of it, and I doubt they would even think about it unless buys suddenly plummeted. It obviously doesn’t affect the buys for Wrestlemania and I think it makes the build-up for it better. So my answer to getting rid of it would be no from a business perspective and from the perspective of a fan.

 

[OIL]

are you out of your gord? this fucking show is one of the best of the year, two years running now. The Febuary show was ALWAYS a throw away show before, and now it no longer is, its one of the funnest, most entertaining, unpredictable shows of the year. Can still get title changes, and provides a chance for a mini feud to further get over the rumble winner. Atrocious idea.

You could just do all of that on a big 3 hour RAW. Why do you need a PPV to further a fued that SHOULD culminate in one match at WrestleMania? Why did Cena use the Royal Rumble shot at No Way Out? They could have set up that match without him using it then. The shot SHOULD be used at 'Mania.

 

[Doctor Awesome]

Whether people like it or not, there is going to likely always be a monthly ppv, at the very least. The problem with No Way Out is that 2 Elimination Chamber matches in one night eats up over half of the time. I for one find it takes away from midcard development and matches. WM main events are typically going to feast or famon based on who is in them no matter what the buildup is, developing a solid undercard helps a great deal with buyrates. No Way Out can be very effective if the booking is done in accordance with the road to Wrestle Mania but doesn't have gimmick matches that outshine your company's largest PPV. Not saying these E.C. matches are better, but alot of effort goes into them that could be focused on other things.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

You could just do all of that on a big 3 hour RAW. Why do you need a PPV to further a fued that SHOULD culminate in one match at WrestleMania? Why did Cena use the Royal Rumble shot at No Way Out? They could have set up that match without him using it then. The shot SHOULD be used at 'Mania.

Cena using his Royal Rumble shot was a one-time thing. You think every Royal Rumble winner now is going to use their shot at No Way Out now. If that would have happened, Randy Orton could have used it in a MITB-type situation and won the title then.

No Way Out should not be scrapped as it is the best PPV besides the Big 4 WWE currently has. There's enough buildup between NWO and WM as it is. It's a great PPV and it's not going away any time soon.

 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

You're all talking about the chambers. But, why couldn't they just host the chamber match on RAW or SD!? It's easier, and means one less date on the calander for the WWE superstars.

It'd spike up the ratings, no doubt. But other than that, it means the build up for WrestleMania can go un-interrupted, unlike now where NWO needs to be hyped.

Yes have brutal half hour elimination chamber matches on RAW. That would make a lot of sense. And money too right? I don't understand how it makes one less date for them though. I mean regardless of whether the match is on Smackdown or at NWO, theyre still getting that McGriddle mark on their back and getting their ass handed to them.

It also doesn't interrupt the build up for Mania. Because people earn their Wrestlemania shots AT NWO. Thats sort of the whole point. And there was what, 7 weeks in between NWO and Mania this year? Thats a good uninterrupted break.

Wow, nothing funny in that post for me. Well this post blows.

 

[Alex(Killer Of Dreams & Legends)]

To be honest its just like the great american bash and NOC it leads to summer slam. Now you say get rid of it I say then you are basically saying to scrap every ppv but the big four . Which would not be to bad for us fans but it would indeed be bad for wwe in genral , so no dont get rid of it . No way out is like half time on the Road to wrestlmaina.

 

[Dave]

I say keep it.

No Way Out makes too much money for the WWE to just drop it. I like No Way Out too, I think that No Way Out acts as a bridge between the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania and gives a little bit of a break from all the Wrestlemania talk. I mean, it is basically 3 months between the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania. I, for one, like something being in that gap and I don't think I would like it if they weren't giving us something to brige the gap and just talking about Wrestlemania for 3 months. That might just be me though.

Also, No Way Out has given us some really good matches in it's recent History. The double Elimination Chamber event this year was really refreshing and interesting. Also, remember that if it wasn't for No Way Out, The Rock vs Stone Cold would have never happened at Wrestlemania X-Seven. As I said, it works well as a bridge and should be kept in my opinion.

 

[supersayian]

No Way OUT is the biggest show WWE has other then the big four like was said. this show makes way to much money for them to be scrapped. the show also has a gimmick to it. the Elimination Chambers also help give the other shows a shot to fight for a tittle at Mania. No this Show is to vital to them to get rid of. and story lines have 7 weeks that is plenty of time. the build up for WM25 was great. yeah some matches did not deliver so well but the storys behind them were great. HHH and Orton kicking all the MCmahons out of action was best in the last few years the match just sucked but the story was there for sure. Taker and HBK had tremendous build up light VS dark the match was greatest in the last decade of wrestling. the legends story with Y2J was great to and the match was better then given credit for.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

No Way Out use to be a throw-away show, that was meaningless between the Rumble and Mania. Its not any longer. Its just as valuable, if not more so, than the Royal Rumble is.

Two years ago, the winner of the Rumble, John Cena, cashed in his Mania title match at No Way Out. Not only did Cena make the Rumble victory look like utter shit by doing this, but he didn't win the title, either. On the same night, two years ago, they debuted the Elimination Chamber as a No Way Out - exclusive.

Since then, this Pay per view has no longer been a throw-away, its been a prime show to "bridge" from the Rumble, to Mania.

At this show, you can continue the feud between the Heavyweight Champion and the Rumble winner, while also having TWO Elimination Chamber matches that you can determine an alternative #1 contender in, or have another Heavyweight title match in, as well. This show has a purpose, more so than half of the other shit that fills up the months between Mania and Summerslam. Or Summerslam and Survivor Series.

In the end, No Way Out has become a corner stone for the Company and if they continue to keep the Elimination Chamber "exclusive" and don't ****e it out, like they've done with Hell in a Cell and Ladder matches, then it'll continue to be a must watch major event. If anything, it also makes Wrestlemania try HARDER to be better.

If you want to do away with a Pay per view, cut away some of these shows that we have where we get 2 Pay per views in one month. Backlash, Judgment Day, Extreme Rules & either The Bash, or Night of Champions all seem to come within 3 weeks of one another. I recall a time when Pay per views were spread apart by about a month and a half.. if not longer.

You can't build shit in 3 weeks, unless its #1 contender matches that are instantly announced and meaningless title matches to "get you through". If they space things out better, do away with maybe, MAYBE one of the above mentioned titles, they'd be better off. However, thats another conversation for another time.. and on that off-topic note, I like having tons of Pay per views, anyways. I love Wrestling, so the more the merrier.