Night of Champions 2012: Kane & Daniel Bryan VS Kofi & R-Truth (c) [Tag Championship]

[Tyrath]

Not surprised no one made this thread in the wake of last night's events.

The match was originally supposed to be the Prime Time Players vs the champs, but as we saw last night on Raw AJ said they had to beat one more team to be the true contenders to the title. That one more team was the unlikely duo of Kane and Daniel Bryan, or Team Friendship. As we saw Kane and Bryan won in an unconventional manner after Kane chokeslammed the legal man Daniel Bryan on top of Darren Young.

After seeing the hug it out I wondered if these two could ever work as a tag team and I'm very happy WWE decided to test this out as well. Kane has been successful in the past with smaller tag champs and I think he could do just as well with Bryan, even if their chemistry is a bit different from past partners. I see them taking the win here to further their storyline and becoming the new Tag Team champs.

Who do you think will win and why?

Your thoughts on Kane and D-Bryan teaming up?

Any other comments?

Discuss.

 

[#SAWFT]

I love the idea, but why not just add them to the match, than take out The Prime Time Players?

I think a triple threat would have been 10 times better. But, I do like this match, and I could see Kane & Daniel Bryan winning, because McMahon thinks that after 2 weeks this could last forever.

I think teaming up a few times before this could have been better. But I don't know. We'll see at Night Of Champions!

 

[Bland]

i reckon booker t will add PTP in to this match on smackdown something along the lines of "AJ is GM of raw she cant take smackdown wrestler out of matches..." but if it stays 2 vs 2 then im happy.

im glad bryan and kane are getting a shot and hopefully they win the tag belts as im not a fan of truth and kofi team. I like both kofi and truth but not teaming together, kofi & bourne and Miz & truth were better pairings.

 

[kcoe24]

Team fun is going to win this cause there to over with the crowd, and as you said vince probly thinks they could last forever.

I like these two teaming up because there funny. But the only down side to this is does this really help the tag team divison get stronger? I mean they'll probly just beat every team multiple times before Rey and Sin cara beat them. Just makes the real teams look weak.

 

[IHW]

Who do you think will win and why?

Kane and Daniel Bryan are sure to be an interesting team. I think they will last a short while together, and then have a big payoff match against each other. This match features to "thrown together" tag teams, rather than any of the legit teams that WWE have been building. I think that Truth and Kingston have run their course together, and its time for them to step back into the mid-card. They can both provide for some fresh feuds against Cesaro. Or, continue previous feuds with the Miz.

All in all, I think Kane and Bryan will win this one.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

I honestly believe Kane and Bryan will walk away with the tag titles here. The Prime Time Players lost their shot. This might upset some people, but if my memory is correct, they did lose to Kofi and Truth more than once, so could you really take them seriously as a legit threat to win the titles?

Bottom line, the Kane/Bryan anger management storyline is hot right now. It's just hilarious. Plus, Bryan and Kane form the perfect odd couple. The storyline should stay fresh, if Bryan and Kane win the titles. As tag champions, they'll have to work together, and being champions will drastically change their relationship.

As far as Truth and Kofi go, they've had a decent enough reign as Tag Team Champions. But they really haven't done anything memorable, so I don't expect any sort of outrage, when they finally lose the gold.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

Kane and Bryan(aside of Punk and Cena) are probably the most hottest thing in WWE now so they need to be on the card and this is one of the ways to do it. Never liked Kofi and Truth that much so as previous posters said, Bryan and Kane are very over with the crowd and they have remotly nothing to do right now so I predict that they will win and hold it a couple of PPV-s before they job to some other team and start to fight eachother. (standard WWE logic)

 

[Ethelion]

Who do you think will win and why?

Team Friendship (Kane and Daniel Bryan). Their Anger Management Storyline is one of the hottest storylines right now since their Triple Threat Storyline with CM Punk. It would be stupid for the WWE to immediately pull the plug on them by not winning the WWE Tag Team Championships.

Just take the straps off Kofi Kingston and R-Truth please.

Your thoughts on Kane and Daniel Bryan teaming up?

YES! YES! YES!

But for a more non-spam position, check out my previous posts in the An Idea for Kane and Daniel Bryan Thread.

Any other comments?

I love the idea, but why not just add them to the match than take out The Prime Time Players?

See Mitch Henessey's post below:

I honestly believe Kane and Bryan will walk away with the tag titles here. The Prime Time Players lost their shot. This might upset some people, but if my memory is correct, they did lose to Kofi and Truth more than once, so could you really take them seriously as a legit threat to win the titles?

The Prime Time Players already lost to Kofi and Truth not once, but twice. What makes people think that they're gonna win the third time around? Oh right, WWE Booking... Remember Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly? Beth lost to Kelly twice when the Divas Championship was on the line, only for the former to win against the latter on the third attempt. While I was ecstatic that Beth finally defeated Kelly and won the Divas Title, there was no explanation why Beth won it - aside from her dominance in the match - given the fact that she didn't have much momentum going into Beth vs. Kelly III.

Still, I'm actually glad that the PTP aren't the Number One Contenders for the WWE Tag Titles anymore. Their constant losses to the Tag Champs have become a major letdown for me.

 

[HBsam31]

Who do you think will win and why?

kane and DB will take the title here. They are really entertaining right now, and those two co holding the title will just add to that.

Your thoughts on Kane and D-Bryan teaming up?

I like them together. I am not necessarily sure they are good for the tag division going forward, but they are funny as hell right now. Not sure what the payoff will be to all this, but they are hot and they will run with the belts for a while.
Any other comments?

I hope PTP get added into this match as it would be cool to see a triple threat for the belts, but no matter what I see Kane and DB getting the belts here.

 

[The Great King]

Even though I am loving the team of Kane and Daniel Bryan, I don't know if they should win the tag team titles right now. I hope they lose at NOC fight a little bit more, then team friendship wins the rematch.

 

[The Last Outlaw]

To be honest, I hope Kane loses the match only because I'm tired of WWE resorting Kane as some comic character. I want him to lose and go back into the division he was meant to be originally. To me, I still see Kane as a main eventer who is meant to be a threat for the entire roster. He deserves a WWE Championship before he retires at least. I actually thought WWE having Kane actually hug someone was quite degrading to his character. He is a monster, and personally I do not like the comedy they are making with it. Sure, it is funny at times....but those times are rare in my case.

Sorry, I hope I didn't offend anyone I was just stating my opinion. I just don't see Kane being very Kane like as of now. Originally, Kane would have destroyed Daniel Bryan and anyone else in his path not hug him and start some stupid tag team...

 

[Ethelion]

To be honest, I hope Kane loses the match, only because I'm tired of WWE resorting Kane as some comic character. I want him to lose and go back into the division he was meant to be originally. To me, I still see Kane as a main eventer who is meant to be a threat for the entire roster. He deserves a WWE Championship before he retires at least. I actually thought WWE having Kane actually hug someone was quite degrading to his character. He is a monster, and personally I do not like the comedy they are making with it. Sure, it is funny at times... but those times are rare in my case.

Sorry, I hope I didn't offend anyone I was just stating my opinion. I just don't see Kane being very Kane like as of now. Originally, Kane would have destroyed Daniel Bryan and anyone else in his path not hug him and start some stupid tag team...

Believe me when I say that I'm a Kane Fan as well. After his trainwreck feud with Cena, I was afraid that that was it for Kane. Thankfully, he bounced back with reinvigorated momentum when he defeated Randy Orton at WrestleMania XXVIII, had an excellent feud with WWE Champion CM Punk and Daniel Bryan and performed exceptionally well at No Way Out 2012. Now we get to see him continue his storyline with Bryan, which is going surprisingly smooth as of late.

Think of it this way. Kane already played a less serious role during his tag team success with Hurricane, but everyone still loved him at that time. Sure, he may be toned down and may be demoted to the upper mid-card scene, but he's still being pushed along with Bryan as a tag team nonetheless. He was lucky enough to get a shot at CM Punk's WWE Championship, but I agree with you when I say that he deserves more than just a 1-day WWE Championship Reign before he hangs up his boots for good.

You have every right to state your own opinion and I can respect that.

Let's just see how Team Friendship rolls out first.

 

[The Crock]

I absolutely love this match -- it's going to be loads of fun. Kofi Kingston and R-Truth are always exciting to watch and Daniel Bryan and Kane have been one of the best things going on in the WWE in recent memory. This match -- regardless of the result -- is going to do wonders for the WWE's tag team division. There have been talks of "reviving" the tag team division for years now and it's about time we actually get some actual growth in the division. Bryan and Kane are top tier wrestlers -- Bryan's as over as anybody in the company -- and now their being put into a "lesser" division, which won't hurt them in the slightest, but will elevate the stock of the whole division. Not only will this make the belts look more meaningful, but it will make all the other competitors in the division look great too. I mean, just look at the Prime Time Players -- yes, they lost, but they got some valuable time against top shelf talent. That's invaluable.

The match itself -- for me, at the very least -- looks fairly straightforward to predict. I see Kane and Bryan picking up the win and taking the straps. Yeah, it's possible they'll brawl and cause each other the match, but it's very unlikely. They're so dynamic together that carrying the championships will create a really story/chemistry for them to work off of. It's such an odd combination, that I think they'll be an excellent tag team. Kofi and Truth had a nice run, but I don't see any way they can pick up the win here.

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

I absolutely love this match -- it's going to be loads of fun. Kofi Kingston and R-Truth are always exciting to watch and Daniel Bryan and Kane have been one of the best things going on in the WWE in recent memory. This match -- regardless of the result -- is going to do wonders for the WWE's tag team division. There have been talks of "reviving" the tag team division for years now and it's about time we actually get some actual growth in the division. Bryan and Kane are top tier wrestlers -- Bryan's as over as anybody in the company -- and now their being put into a "lesser" division, which won't hurt them in the slightest, but will elevate the stock of the whole division. Not only will this make the belts look more meaningful, but it will make all the other competitors in the division look great too. I mean, just look at the Prime Time Players -- yes, they lost, but they got some valuable time against top shelf talent. That's invaluable.

The match itself -- for me, at the very least -- looks fairly straightforward to predict. I see Kane and Bryan picking up the win and taking the straps. Yeah, it's possible they'll brawl and cause each other the match, but it's very unlikely. They're so dynamic together that carrying the championships will create a really story/chemistry for them to work off of. It's such an odd combination, that I think they'll be an excellent tag team. Kofi and Truth had a nice run, but I don't see any way they can pick up the win here.

Other than the things highlighted in bold, you're pretty spot on.

This isn't going to help the Tag team division. Giving two single wrestlers who happen to have some sort of common denominator become a tag team title contender doesn't work, unless it builds to a bigger outcome. The Mega Powers worked because they both were building toward a huge payoff at WM. Austin and HHH worked, but they never held tag team gold that I'm aware of.

This will be an entertaining match, but they shouldn't be given the tag gold. Bryan and Kane should go into this match, dominate for a spell, then end up blowing up at each other and costing them the match. Kofi and Truth are a good tag team and have shown some serious chemistry. Kane and DB have better things to do than be tag champs.

This doesn't have any effect on the tag title division other than pissing more fans off because no 'legit' tag teams can hold the belts for a long time.

Winner : Kofi and R-Truth.

 

[The Crock]

Other than the things highlighted in bold, you're pretty spot on.

This isn't going to help the Tag team division. Giving two single wrestlers who happen to have some sort of common denominator become a tag team title contender doesn't work, unless it builds to a bigger outcome. The Mega Powers worked because they both were building toward a huge payoff at WM. Austin and HHH worked, but they never held tag team gold that I'm aware of.

This will be an entertaining match, but they shouldn't be given the tag gold. Bryan and Kane should go into this match, dominate for a spell, then end up blowing up at each other and costing them the match. Kofi and Truth are a good tag team and have shown some serious chemistry. Kane and DB have better things to do than be tag champs.

This doesn't have any effect on the tag title division other than pissing more fans off because no 'legit' tag teams can hold the belts for a long time.

Winner : Kofi and R-Truth.

The way I see it, Kane/Bryan win the tag titles and nurture (for lack of a better term) their relationship during their reign, continuing to become and better and better team, until they eventually implode and they lose the titles. For their current storyline, I just think that makes sense. If they blow the tag title match, it'll basically immediately hot-shot them into a one-on-one match at Hell in a Cell, which I don't really want to see.

It's a shame that Kofi and Truth won't be able to continue on with their title reign -- since it has been really good, especially considering all the crappy reigns we've seen in recent history -- but I'm sure they'll get another title run down the line (if they stay together). Kofi and Truth are THE team to build around, at this point, but I see nothing wrong with bringing in guys on the level of Kane/Bryan to help elevate the division in the short term.

 

[xXxTheDevilGodxXx]

Kane and Bryan have amazing chemistry together. I actually think that they would be really entertaining Tag Team Champions. Kofi and Truth haven't done much as Tag Champions and personally,I'm kind of bored of them. Not in-ring wise, but they don't get any air time, so I've been wondering what the WWE plans to do with them. Kane and Bryan always do, and we'll certainly see them get more air time.

Prime Time Players have had their chance too many times already anyways. I would have preferred a triple threat match with the three teams though but oh well.

Winners: Kane and Bryan

I thought that at first, Kofi and Truth were a great team to have hold the Tag Team titles, but after awhile I just don't know. Like I said, Kane and Bryan would be far more entertaining. It's rushed though so that does hurt it. I would have built them into a team first because as stated above, it's not going to help the tag team division. But I guess WWE knows what they are doing.

The only thing that hurts Kofi and Truth's reign to me is the fact that they don't get much air-time in terms of backstage segments and actual good storylines. That's it.

 

[Mustang Sally]

The whole Kane-Bryan alliance has an over-the-top feel to it, no? They were unlikely enemies (given their size difference) and suddenly have become unlikely friends. The idea of Kane hugging someone in the middle of the ring is something we never thought we'd see. Even when he was "going" with Terri Poch, we never saw him hug her. Instead, he hugs Daniel Bryan. Go figure.

Still, the unusual nature of this pairing probably means they're going to win the tag title from Kofi-Truth-Jimmy.....hold the belts for a couple of weeks......and drop them after turning on each other. Of course, there's always the possibility Kane & Danny will betray each other and lose the match this Sunday. Or, perhaps WWE plans to make them a permanent team (as permanent as anything gets in the tag division, anyway).

Either way, it seems to me that Kofi-Truth-Jimmy have held the belts long enough.

Who knows what Creative has in mind this time? As strange a pairing as Kane and Daniel make, for all we know this could be a plan to truly resurrect the tag team scene in WWE. If so, it would be worth keeping them together for a little while.

 

[Miz_Mark]

Austin and HHH worked, but they never held tag team gold that I'm aware of.


This doesn't have any effect on the tag title division other than pissing more fans off because no 'legit' tag teams can hold the belts for a long time.

Of course Austin and Trips had the tag gold, how can you not be aware of that? That was the whole point of the 2 Man Power Trip, they were unstoppable and had ALL THE GOLD. Austin was World champ, Trips was IC, and together they were Tag champs.

Then they lost the belts to Benoit and Jericho when Trips tore his quad.

As for how this can help the tag division, Kofi and R Truth have been champions seemingly endlessly and have never mattered. If you move the belts onto "real" stars and have important people care about keeping them, that brings prestige to the belts, and if a "real" tag team eventually dethrones the 2 singles stars for the belts, that's a bigger deal than if they just beat Kofi and Truth.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I'm not buying the rationale that Kane and Bryan winning the tag team titles will do wonders for the division. Everyone thought the same thing when Jericho and Big Show were together and it accomplished absolutely nothing. I may do something that I'll never thought I would do and hope that R-Truth comes out victorious in a match. I have chills just thinking about it. I hated that the fact that O'Neill and Young lost their shot not just because I like them, but because they're basically the only heel tag team and I'm not counting Bryan & Kane as one. I'm going to take that leap and hope that Truth and Kofi win.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm not buying the rationale that Kane and Bryan winning the tag team titles will do wonders for the division. Everyone thought the same thing when Jericho and Big Show were together and it accomplished absolutely nothing.

That's true. But, at the same time, did the WWE even really have anything approcathing a tag team division back then. Really, aside from JeriShow and DX, there weren't very many active teams going on.

While the tag team scene is far from perfect, it's much stronger than it has been in years. The PTPs, Usos, Epico & Primo, Kofi & Truth, Kidd & Gabriel are all solid teams. Not saying that they'll change the face of tag team wrestling or anything but they're all solid and bring some relevance to the WWE tag team picture that hasn't been there in a good half decade, maybe more. While Kidd & Gabriel aren't heavily involved yet, I'm hoping that'll change in the near future. Surprisingly, Mysterio & Sin Cara are pretty decent as well.

I can see Bryan & Kane winning this Sunday as a means of keeping this current angle with them going. It could mean them actually forming a real team for a while and having real success before it ultimately breaks down with them turning on each other, thus renewing their feud. However, personally, I'd rather the WWE just kept the titles off them and had their partnership break down quickly instead of a brief, lame duck run if that's what the ultimate idea is. I'd rather just see Kofi & Truth retain the titles after Kane & Bryan have a breakdown at the ppv and go onto lose the titles to a legit team if they're not going to keep Kane & Bryan as champs for any significant time period.

 

[Ethelion]

Just watched the full segment between Team Friendship and the Prime Time Players and I gotta say, Titus and Darren are getting a lot better with their backstage skits, as evidenced by their pre-match promo with AJ. Too bad they suck for not stepping up to the plate sooner and not capturing the Tag Titles from Kofi and Truth. Oh well. It's the back of the line for the PTP.

Anyway, I'm still sticking with my first post in this thread, rooting and predicting that Team Friendship will walk out as the new champs. The chemistry that they have right now is perfect. Bryan fainting after Kane raised his hand was comedy gold.

On a side note, Darren Young could actually hang his comb in that small, lame afro of his?!

 

[scottyshowman82]

I really believe that the Prime Time Players are the center of the division. I feel that they are over and are seen as a real tag team duo. I think their losses to Kofi & Truth and Primo & Epico were in order to help make those tag teams look credible. Kane and Byran's recent vignettes really impressed WWE brass and they are getting a tag team opportunity as they should. It kind of sucks for the PTP because I think everything was building up for a Night of Champions win which would be a good thing for the tag division. Hopefully them winning it a bit later and letting Kane/Bryan have the spotlight (which most definately definitely will be great TV) won't hurt the PTP in the long run.

 

[Natural Selection]

I really believe that the Prime Time Players are the center of the division. I feel that they are over and are seen as a real tag team duo. I think their losses to Kofi & Truth and Primo & Epico were in order to help make those tag teams look credible. Kane and Byran's recent vignettes really impressed WWE brass and they are getting a tag team opportunity as they should. It kind of sucks for the PTP because I think everything was building up for a Night of Champions win which would be a good thing for the tag division. Hopefully them winning it a bit later and letting Kane/Bryan have the spotlight (which most definately definitely will be great TV) won't hurt the PTP in the long run.

I disagree 100%. PTP is about as boring as gets in my opinion, the only reason I don't fast forward through their matches is because their opponents might do something entertaining.

As it stands right now there is no "center" of the division, so by default that makes the champs the center.

Daniel Bryan and Kane have been and will be more entertaining the PTP. Daren and Titus need to sit back and take notes from Kane.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

There just HAS to be some NATO humanitarian sanction against all of this. Its things like this that further drive people to not belive that God exists.

What went from a hot tag turmoil match centered around the tag team titles, its been degraded to a mere lawn ornament to further a storyline, an incredibly shitty one at that. Hey, lets make Kane a comedy character after an immensely effective re-introduction as a monster.

Ruin Kane. Ruin Daniel Bryan. Ruin any heat on the tag titles. Ruin a chance to get some fresh faces on PPV. Ruin more segments of TV time. Ruin a chance to debut the Ascension.

Ruin my will to live a little more.

Just awful. Im sure Bryan and Kane walk out with the titles, in a match which will be about anything and everything BUT the titles. May as well be over a couple of cans of Dr.Pepper.

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

Of course Austin and Trips had the tag gold, how can you not be aware of that? That was the whole point of the 2 Man Power Trip, they were unstoppable and had ALL THE GOLD. Austin was World champ, Trips was IC, and together they were Tag champs.

Then they lost the belts to Benoit and Jericho when Trips tore his quad.

As for how this can help the tag division, Kofi and R Truth have been champions seemingly endlessly and have never mattered. If you move the belts onto "real" stars and have important people care about keeping them, that brings prestige to the belts, and if a "real" tag team eventually dethrones the 2 singles stars for the belts, that's a bigger deal than if they just beat Kofi and Truth.

That's why I said 'not that I'm aware of'.

I kinda thought they might have had Tag Gold, but didn't know for sure. Either way, my stance is the same. Kofi and Truth should retain the gold, and Kane and Bryan should go back to single's wrestling and be put in the World Title picture.