NFL Thread - 2009-10

[NSL]

With the releases made today, the draft could get a lot more interesting.

First, there was the Jacksonville Jaguars releasing Fred Taylor. He's one of the most under-rated running backs ever, and has an outside shot at being a Hall of Famer. They already have Maurice Jones-Drew as a starter, but do they grab a back-up in the draft? Or, do they go after another free agent running back such as Derrick Ward or:

Deuce McAllister, who was cut by the New Orleans Saints. He can obviously still play the game at a decent level. He won't be a starter anywhere, but could be useful in a two back set. New Orleans is left with a somewhat untested Pierre Thomas, and an unimpressive Reggie Bush. I believe Aaron Stecker is still on the roster as well. They obviously don't need to get another running back, but who are they freeing up the cap space for? Is it a receiver? Boldin, Johnson, and Burress would all make for fine targets for Drew Brees, but only Boldin would be a good option. He won't effect the team chemistry, and would be a great second option to Colston or Henderson.

Cris McAlister was also cut by Baltimore. He's goin to start somewhere, but will have to take a pay cut. There's a lot of teams set in the defensive backfield, but no team would ignore the idea of signing a multi-time Pro-Bowler to their roster. He could be a good fit for teams like the Cowboys, Chiefs, Lions, Broncos, and Raiders.

Dre Bly is another Defensive Back that was cut today. He made a name for himself in Detroit of all places, and is only being cut to save cap room. Denver will probably look at cheaper free agents, but could also find a quality player in the draft.

There's a number of running backs that could be NFL ready in the first or second rounds, and it'll be interesting to see where they go. As far as defensive back, they're harder to scout. A number of good players could be taken in to the third round, but not many wil have the ability to come out and start right away.

 

[truk24]

Not sure I see where you are going with all of this.

"First, there was the Jacksonville Jaguars releasing Fred Taylor. He's one of the most under-rated running backs ever, and has an outside shot at being a Hall of Famer. They already have Maurice Jones-Drew as a starter, but do they grab a back-up in the draft? Or, do they go after another free agent running back such as Derrick Ward or:"-NightShiftLegend"

Have you not heard exactly what kind of position the Jags are in lately. They lost their defensive coord. Most of their o-line was gone this year, and also remember that they lost a strong part of their defensive line to free agency. Last year they picked up two solid rookies in the first two rounds. They don't really have a strong number two CB, and I'm sure they could use some depth at the o-line position.

I would bet that with all that being said they will for certain draft a CB, Guard, or WR. If Vontae Davis is still available expect them to take him. However if a player like Duke Robinson is still there he should go first. Don't forget about Jeremy Maclin. The Jags cut Porter at WR, and I guess they have plans to replace him. I would bank on the Jags pursuing a guard though especially Robinson. Duke is easily the best guard to come out since Faneca. With all that happened to their o-line this year I would expect this to be the main concern.

If you think the Saints are thinking more offense you are nuts. There is no way they take an offensive player in the first round this year unless it is Moreno, or Crabtree. That offense is fine, and the main concern here is a CB or LB. Right now they don't have any type of real shut down corner there, but Vilma could be gone to help free up some cap space. If Vilma leaves then look for them to consider taking a first round LB. If they are lucky they may land Curry. I would think that either Malcom Jenkins, or Alphonso Smith, and even Vontae Davis.

 

[NSL]

I know neither will worry about offense in the draft, but at least Jacksonville will need to address the back-up Running Back spot in the draft if they don't sign a free agent.

Jones-Drew is a quality starter, but with him also handling return duties, they need insurance, and grabbing a back-up in the 3rd or 4th rounds wouldn't be a bad idea.

The Saints are definitely going with defense for the first few picks, but they could also use signing a veteran back-up, or a late round draft pick to compete for the Running Back job. Bush is little more than a glorified punt returner right now, and there's no proof that Stecker or Thomas can handle the workload. They're both small slash-and-dash runners, so they need some variety from a back-up.

 

[BooCocky]

The Panthers signed Gross to a six year deal, Peppers was franchised and this isn't a huge surprise. Gross was one of the better lineman this year and Peppers is a great DE even though he is vastly overrated. I also believe the Raiders signed their CB and Dunta Robinson resigned with the Texans. That destroys the Cornerbacks this offseason because those were the only two who were worth a shit.

Now, the Steelers tagged Starks, which is ridiculous, a backup earns 8.45 million. We could spend that to rebuild our line, so now we are fucked. Hopefully we resign Harrison and Miller before it is all said and done. I am sure some other players will be tagged which means this FA period will be utter shit. Yay 2009 NFL draft.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

The Panthers signed Gross to a six year deal, Peppers was franchised and this isn't a huge surprise. Gross was one of the better lineman this year and Peppers is a great DE even though he is vastly overrated.

No one wanted to believe me on this. I seen it coming a mile away. You don't just let your best Defensive player basically slam your team in saying "Look, I get you're offering me more money they I'd ever make anywhere else, but I wanna play in Dallas, or someone else in general."

If we wouldn't of tagged him, he would've freely walked. Fuck that, he's a great player and Carolina knew that before he was such. So as result, Carolina deserves something out of that, more than just a simple "Thanks for the memories."

As it stands, the only two teams that I'm aware of with 2 first round picks are Detroit and Philly. I don't think either would give up both for Peppers. But Detroit could be stupid enough to think about it. Albeit, that'd mean they'd give up their #1 overall and THAT I don't see happening, ever.

I think as it stands, we'll do something stupid. Like accept a 1st round pick, and two 2nd rounders, or even completely moronic and accept a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, or less.

A thought I was toying with, was accepting a 1st this year, and a 1st next year. That would give Carolina a 1st rounder this year, then 2 next year. And next year's draft is going to be far more important than this year's.

Finally, I'm extremely happy about Jordan Gross resigning a 6 yr deal, making him one of the highest paid OL there are. A year ago, we tagged him and he said he'd never resign or return. He was merely unhappy about our OL being shit, and what a difference a year makes. Our OL is now one of the best there are, and our running game was the greatest part of our season.

As it stands, I don't think we're gonna lose many starters, outside of Peppers. (assuming he gets traded, or sits out the season) So we could have a decent year. (could have, being a very hard key word with how our schedule looks)

I also believe the Raiders signed their CB

Nnamdi Asomugha, will become one of the highest CBs in league history for a 2-yr contract I read. 45 million over 2 years. That's CRAZY money right there. But I admit he's worth it.

People don't give him much credit, likely because he's on an Oakland Raiders team people just want to write off as pure shit. But they brought up a good point last year, during a game I seen him in. Someone said "He's rarely leading the league in INTs, but thats not because he can't. It's because no QB throws in his direction enough for him to."

and Dunta Robinson resigned with the Texans. That destroys the Cornerbacks this offseason because those were the only two who were worth a shit.

Gotta be honest, I have no clue who Dunta Robinson is. I know OF him, and noticed (I believe) that he was injured all of last year, I think.. but I haven't heard a lot from him.. to know if he's truly that great or not.

Now, the Steelers tagged Starks, which is ridiculous, a backup earns 8.45 million. We could spend that to rebuild our line, so now we are fucked. Hopefully we resign Harrison and Miller before it is all said and done. I am sure some other players will be tagged which means this FA period will be utter shit. Yay 2009 NFL draft.

A complete list of the Tagged Players go as follows.. (the period of time to Tag a player has now ENDED, so this is the final list)

(from nfl.com) Here are the final 15:

Nnamdi Asomugha — Raiders

S Oshiomogho Atogwe — Rams

WR Antonio Bryant — Buccaneers

QB Matt Cassel – Patriots

LB Karlos Dansby — Cardinals

K Shayne Graham — Bengals

LB Leroy Hill — Seahawks

RB Brandon Jacobs — Giants

P Michael Koenen — Falcons

DE Julius Peppers — Panthers

CB Dunta Robinson — Texans

TE Bo Scaife – Titans

RB Darren Sproles — Chargers

T Max Starks — Steelers

LB Terrell Suggs — Ravens

Why do you Franchise Kickers and Punters? I never understood that. And I question Baltimore's move on not placing their tag on either Ray Lewis, or Bart Scott.

Matt Cassel was likely the best Franchise move ever. Namely because now they have a fall back on if Brady can't go, and Cassel would've been expensive as shit this year, coming off what could've been a fluke season.

 

[Profit]

Matt Cassel was likely the best Franchise move ever. Namely because now they have a fall back on if Brady can't go, and Cassel would've been expensive as shit this year, coming off what could've been a fluke season.

I hope the Patriots end up trading him and getting some defensive help, and some draft picks as well. The Chiefs need a quarterback, they have former Patriot Scott Pioli so he's familiar with Cassel, so i'm hoping the Pats can get a good deal from them.

Maybe a first, a third, and a player as well. Tony Gonzalez? That might be asking too much, but if that were to happen that would be so friggin awesome!

I know the Patriots do need a fall back guy, as knee injurys are hard for QB's to come back from, just look at Palmer he had a similiar type of injury and had a sub-par season upon his return. But reports are that Brady is on schedule to be able to start next season, and will be ready for training camp and all that.

As long as Brady is 100% healthy, the Pats don't need Cassel.

 

[Thriller Ant]

I'm nervous about the Rams tagging O.J. Atogwe. He is one of the best young safeties in the league, and I would love for him to get locked up long term. I can't wait to see what we do with the #2 pick. I would like to see us get an offensive lineman, linebacker, or a game changing skill player. My pick would either be Aaron Curry from Wake or Eugene Monroe from Virginia. Michael Crabtree would be a dark pick, but he would not be a priority in my opinion.

 

[BooCocky]

No one wanted to believe me on this. I seen it coming a mile away. You don't just let your best Defensive player basically slam your team in saying "Look, I get you're offering me more money they I'd ever make anywhere else, but I wanna play in Dallas, or someone else in general."

I believed you because I was saying it myself. He is a great DE, even though he is overrated and he isn't the same Peppers who was chasing down Michael Vick like 5 years ago. To me Peppers has lost a step and isn't as intimidating as he once was. Which is scary because he is still young. But I still believe he will be traded because it seems to me that he doesnt wanna play In Carolina. Honestly, I don't care where he ends up as long as he stays away from the AFC North. I can't allow the Browns, Bengals or Ravens to get better.

As it stands, the only two teams that I'm aware of with 2 first round picks are Detroit and Philly. I don't think either would give up both for Peppers. But Detroit could be stupid enough to think about it. Albeit, that'd mean they'd give up their #1 overall and THAT I don't see happening, ever.

The Front Office in Detroit is pretty bad, but I don't think they are that bad. Trading away your top pick for a DE. You can always find a legitimate Defensive End. I am going to say this for Detroit, they should draft an Offensive Lineman and build there team from the lines out. They should then draft a QB in the third round, possibly like a Curtis Painter. Even though I think he will move up on the charts. Anyways, a QB isn't their top priority.

A thought I was toying with, was accepting a 1st this year, and a 1st next year. That would give Carolina a 1st rounder this year, then 2 next year. And next year's draft is going to be far more important than this year's.

Every draft is important. It's where the teams with little money fill there holes.

Finally, I'm extremely happy about Jordan Gross resigning a 6 yr deal, making him one of the highest paid OL there are. A year ago, we tagged him and he said he'd never resign or return. He was merely unhappy about our OL being shit, and what a difference a year makes. Our OL is now one of the best there are, and our running game was the greatest part of our season.

I knew that was coming. Him and Otah are going to dominate for years to come. I strongly believe you win games with the play of your lines. Good Job Carolina, now can Peppers and fill your voids.

As it stands, I don't think we're gonna lose many starters, outside of Peppers. (assuming he gets traded, or sits out the season) So we could have a decent year. (could have, being a very hard key word with how our schedule looks)

As long as Delhomme is your QB, don't expect SB

Nnamdi Asomugha, will become one of the highest CBs in league history for a 2-yr contract I read. 45 million over 2 years. That's CRAZY money right there. But I admit he's worth it.

He'd look better in Black and Gold

People don't give him much credit, likely because he's on an Oakland Raiders team people just want to write off as pure shit. But they brought up a good point last year, during a game I seen him in. Someone said "He's rarely leading the league in INTs, but thats not because he can't. It's because no QB throws in his direction enough for him to."

I don't know where you got this. He was regarded as the best available CB if the Raiders didn't sign him. People were saying he was the best shutdown CB in football, and I believe that is accurate.

Gotta be honest, I have no clue who Dunta Robinson is. I know OF him, and noticed (I believe) that he was injured all of last year, I think.. but I haven't heard a lot from him.. to know if he's truly that great or not.

Robinson is a good CB, he can cover, catch and tackle. He's also young. So i like this, you can't let a CB like this go elsewhere.

Why do you Franchise Kickers and Punters? I never understood that. And I question Baltimore's move on not placing their tag on either Ray Lewis, or Bart Scott.

Suggs is better, and can play more positions. And I believe he is younger. You franchise Kickers because great ones are hard to come by. Shayne Graham is one of the better kickers in the NFL and it would be stupid to let him go elsewhere, especially when you have some money to spend. The Falcons punter is also a good punter. You can win games on ST's Will. If it wasn't for a kick Out of Bounds, the Panthers woul've been SB champions several years ago.

Matt Cassel was likely the best Franchise move ever. Namely because now they have a fall back on if Brady can't go, and Cassel would've been expensive as shit this year, coming off what could've been a fluke season.

They should have traded him when his stock was at its highest. Now he'll sit behind Brady, lose another year, and people won't take a chance on him. The Patriots are basically spending 13 million for a guy who is going to ride the bench, and for a player who might not see a down all season, unless Brady goes down.

 

[truk24]

If the Rams GM had any sense he would trade down out of the top ten, maybe trade with the Bucs, or Eagles. Gain more picks in later rounds, and build a real team. They don't need another top 5 pick. If that ends as a busts, you are looking at loss revene towards the cap. Trading down could land them a player like G Duke Robinson, WR Percy Harvin, DE Tyson Jackson, or even CB Malcom Jenkins. Risking such a high pick again is never worth it especially with all the talent that will be in this year's draft. It would also be a lot more affordable, and that means they could spend some money in free agency.

The Rams need help fast. Their defense needs help either in the middle or deep. Right now there aren't too many secondary players out there. Veterans like CB McAllitster, and CB Dre Bly are the best older players in the secondary out there. A player like Lito Sheppard could be out there as well. Don't forget also about Bryant McFadden. The Rams need a player like Johnathan Vilma, whom may end up on the free agency market within the next few weeks. The Saints won't be able to afford to keep him, even with the loss of Deuce. If they are REALLY lucky landing Albert Haynesworth would be the most ideal thing for this defense. Having him on any defense will pull you up the defensive rankings.

The 2nd round for the Rams should be their most important pick, and that should be a QB. That ass that they have now, isn't worth the money they paid him before. A guy like Curtis Painter could be available very early in the 2nd round. Painter will impress many at the combine much like Flacco did. He is an NFL ready QB, and he played at Purdue against some strong defensive talent. He has progressed very well in his NCAA career. He had a better Junior year than his senior year, but he played at a high level. Will be a safe pick early in the 2nd round.

 

[Minor League Brian]

Okay, I've just heard bits and pieces of this but can someone fill me in on the rest? What is going on with Redskin's and Haynesworth?!?!

Look, I'm all for pickin' up that monster, Lord knows after he came back form his suspension he was just a straight up beast, but I've heard were willing to offer him 100kk or something in that range for him!?!? What the fuck!?!? We should NOT be spending anywhere near that amount of money on one person. We need to fix up our lines if anything, we've got a decent set of receivers and Campbell is average, but he can get the job done, and we've always got Brennan on the bench, but seriously; WTF?!?!

 

[Ty Burna]

From what I understand, it sounds like Washington is willing to offer him a $100 million contract. I'm not a Redskins fan but I agree with you that they could use that money to build up other parts of the team. Their Oline needs some upgrading so Clinton Portis can hopefully stay healthy for an entire season. Portis was a beast last year when he was healthy and could have beaten out my man Adrian Peterson for the rushing title if it hadn't been for injuries.

Simply put the Redskins have a very solid foundation and were on a roll at one point last season. I think taking that $100 million and filling in the gaps with solid players instead of overspending on an injury prone overrated defensive lineman would be a better investment. Also, instead of trading off draft picks, I would actually use them this year and get some youth out there on the team. However it is Dan Snyder we are talking about here and he will overpay for free agents all day everyday.

Now my question is, why in the hell are the Vikings trading for Sage Rosenfels? He's equivalent to a younger Gus Frerotte in my opinion and really won't help us any in the quarterback department. If anything we could have gotten Jeff Garcia as a free agent for a year or two instead of wasting a draft pick on a career backup. But if it means Childress getting fired at the end of next season and we promoting Leslie Frazier to head coach, I'm all for him shooting himself in the foot.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Free Agency is coming up in just over 24 hours, and it looks to be a nice one. A couple top WRs are on the market, while age does effect some, that shouldn't alter how much attention they'll receive.

Marvin Harrison was officially released by the Colts, and I assume the Philly Eagles shall be first in line to attempt working something out with the hometown boy. T.J. Who's Ya Momma is another nice pick that should find a better home out of the shadow of Chad Johnson, and away from the drama that is the Bengals.

Lance Moore was cut by the Saints, I believe. Some think he's going to be a decent "silent" pick-up, but I honestly don't think he's gonna be as good of a WR without Brees being the guy getting him the ball. Some other top WRs are; Hillard, Galloway, Coles, and Hackett.

Jeff Garcia is without question the best FA QB on the market, assuming that Kurt Warner does resign with Arizona. I think Minnesota is completely ******ed for attempting to make a trade with Houston, for a glorified back-up, when they can just attempt signing a good-great starter in the likes of Garcia, or even Warner depending.

The FA RBs aren't the greatest. I don't think Ward is going to be like Turner, which is who he's being compared to. McAllister & Taylor are getting too old, and too injury prone to be effective for any team. Meanwhile, Warrick Dunn was "one and done" in TB. I wouldn't doubt but if he retires.

Speaking of Tampa Bay, they cut Derrick Brooks. While "I" always looked at Cato June as a decent LB, the fact is Brooks was their heart and soul of that Defense.. he's gonna be a huge name on the market.

Apparently Carolina isn't under the cap yet, as they're trying to deal Peppers away, or possibly Ken Lucas. I can't say I agree with dealing Lucas away, unless we have a sure plan in replacing him at corner. I don't believe we're strong there, with exception to Gamble and Marshall.

I'd like to think at this point we could deal Peppers away for either 1st round draft picks, or top quality players.

 

[BooCocky]

For some reason I do not think Brooks will be that "BIG" of a Free Agent. He was a cover two linebacker, and there aren't many cover two defenses left in the NFL. He is up there in age and has lost a step over the years, I wouldn't have released him on his leadership alone, but if you have to get younger, you have to make these kind of moves. On to other news.

Jeff Saturday said he wants to be a Steeler, and said he'd play guard just to make it happen. I think is great, I am perfectly fine with Hartwig as our center, but signing Saturday, one of the better lineman the last five or so years would give us many viable options come draft time. We need to build our team, our talks with Harrison have gone sour, and I believe our number one priority is to lock up Miller, Holmes, Woodley and Timmons, even if it comes at the cost of releasing James Harrison.

If I read correctly the salary cap increases another four million dollars, which was done to get the teams really close to the cap some relief. Anyway, that should help most teams out and I wouldn't be surprised of the Steelers didn't make a move. They are an offensive line a way from winning there 7th Super Bowl. Anyway, over the next few days this should get interesting. I am looking forward to seeing where Haynesworth lands, and what idiotic owner who is willing to pay a DT 100 million plus.

 

[Lil Wes]

Meh, FA won't really be that big for us. D Ware needs to go ahead and get a new contract after the season he had last year. Speaking of D Ware, hopefully he's right about Ray Lewis. With ZT gone and Burnett going to look around, we could really use him, I don't really care to see Bobby Carpender anywhere near the field, or a position changing Roy Williams (hopefully that rumor is legit, please god please get him out of coverage) in the rotation. Plus, as the world knows our team chemistry is a total joke, Ray will hopefully fix that locker room even if it's just a little bit, he'll still demand respect and have the attention of the defensive guys at least. He's really the type of leader we need, If we could cut TO to get Lewis, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

We need a backup QB or 2, I'm sure we'll just draft one (Harrell lock ) and keep that fossil Johnson as a "mentor". Bollinger will be canned.

As for the rest of the league, I don't really give a shit outside of this division. I expect NYG and Philly to be after TJ Houshyadayada hard, with one landing him, and Haynesworth to get a ridiculous ROFL worthy contract from the Skins. Good luck with that, once he gets his money he'll fall back down to earth.

 

[Ty Burna]

Let me throw some stats onto this shitty trade Minnesota is pulling off:
Career Stats:
Sage Rosenfels (8 year pro) - 32 G, 62.7% completion, 4,156 yards, 30 TD, 29 INT, 81.2 passer rating

Tarvaris Jackson (3 year pro) - 25 G, 58.4% completion, 3,442 yards, 20 TD, 18 INT, 76.5 passer rating

Eh....so we gain 4% more completed passes which is a plus, maybe a few more yards, TD:INT ration is the same, passer rating still sucks and equivalent starting experience. Can anybody tell me what the Vikes will gain from this? Please? Don't worry I can wait.......

Now for comparison, Jeff Garcia,

Jeff Garcia (10 year pro) - 124 G, 61.6% completion, 25,537 yards, 161 TD, 83 INT, 87.5 passer rating

So Garcia has been in the league a whole 2 years longer than Rosenfels, he has far more starting experience, a better completion % then Jackson, his TD:INT ratio is damn near 2 to 1 compared to almost 1 to 1 with Jackson or Rosenfels. Plus he's a proven quarterback and won't cost us a God damn draft pick. And just to put the cherry on top, he is proven to work best in a West Coast offense (see: Philly, S.F.)

Basically I just want to bitch about this horrendous move and I wanted some stats to back it up. Garcia would be the perfect fit, but of course the Vikings wouldn't be smart enough to do that.

 

[truk24]

Don't worry about James Harrison being signed. Yes, he is a priority, but at the same time he still has time left on his contract. It is possible that he could hold out, but we still have Timmons. Harrison shouldn't be much of a concern right now. Holmes, Woodley, and Miller still have one year left on their contract. I'm sure they will honor that.

Big news in Pittsburgh is the release of Simmons. He was a good RG, and one of the best in the league. There has been talk of Jeff Saturday coming to Pgh. With this release I'm guessing this may be true. It is also possible that they are looking at some of the other Guards, and tackles in free agency. Guys like Stinchcomb, and Dockery should be getting a strong look from the Steelers. Stinchcomb played in a "pass happy" offense, and so he can help the o-line grasp the concept of pass protection.

Releasing Simmons also gave way for some more cap space, this move put them over 10 million. Plus, the extra 4 million this year will put them in a spot to make some moves. I wouldn't be surprised to see them "fix" the offensive line for this season. Remember Ben threw 32 touchdowns back in 2007. With better play from the o-line this team can pull off another Superbowl win.

If the Steelers had any balls they would release Willie Parker, or even trade him. He would free up more than 5 million in cap space. That would put them at a little above 20 million in cap sapce. That probably won't happen mainly because he was a hand picked by one of the Rooneys. Then again they have Mendenhall, Russel, Moore, and anyone they may draft. Parker at this point isn't that much of a need. They won the Superbowl without him this time.

Parker is at this point still of high value, and I think it would be a smart move to let him go. Trading him may not go so well, but releasing him gives them the opportunity to sign guys they need like McFadden, or even Harrison. I hope they land a notable free agent for the o-line. Then after that draft an offensive lineman, possibly a RT prospect in the 2nd rd, or even another guard like Duke Robinson, or Max Unger in the 1st rd. However it is possible that neither of those players will be there.

With that said I think the most important position need with the last pick of the draft would have to be a CB, or DE. If they are lucky maybe someone falls to them that shouldn't in the first. Someone like Vonate Davis, or even Percy Harvin. I highly doubt they will land someone that high on the boards. The last pick is always tough to call, but I think they will play it safe and go with defensive or offensive linemen. I'm going with Max Unger because he was snapping the ball, and played with Denis Dixon the QB the Steelers drafted last year. It makes sense that they would take Unger since he has played with Dixon, but more importantly Unger played every spot on the line well meaning tackle, guard, and center. That is what they like most about those type of players.

 

[Ty Burna]

First day of free agency and man has it been a busy one.

First off, Haynesworth signs with the Redskins for 7 years/$100 million. I'm not sure I agree with this move as stated previously. But the Redskins are not done yet, they resigned Deangelo Hall to a 6 year/$54 million contract. Hall is getting lucky, he got paid big time when the Raiders released him, and now he's getting another huge contract. I got to give props for hustlin that much money out of two teams.

It appears that Fred Taylor has signed with the Patriots. I think this is a good move, Taylor is one of those rare running backs today that can still run after the age of 31. This is probably the best chance Taylor will ever have of reaching the Super Bowl since the Jaguars can't get out of neutral.

Ravens linebacker Bart Scott has agreed to a 5 year/$40 million contract with the Jets. I agree with the Jets going out to improve their defense, but I don't know how good Bart Scott actually is. Adalius Thomas was a beast a few years back when he played alongside Lewis and that great defense, he wasn't so good after he left. I think this could end the same way for Scott, he was a product of the system.

The Browns traded Kellen Winslow to the Bucs for undisclosed draft picks. I believe many saw the Browns trading Winslow in the offseason. He's been injury prone and had plenty of disagreements with the front office. Winslow is a great receiving tight end but he's got knee issues and he cannot block his way out of a paper bag. I'm hoping the Browns got some high draft picks for Winslow seeing as the Browns are my second favorite team. As for the Bucs, this gives them another receiving threat in the offense but I think Winslow will get disgruntled there because the Bucs look to be in rebuilding mode since they blew the roster up.

Gibril Wilson formerly of the Raiders signed with the Dolphins. I think Wilson is a solid player, and should help the Dolphins secondary out. He was in a losing situation up in Oakland.

TJ Houshmandzadeh visited with the Seahwaks today. I don't think he'll be signing with them. Mostly because I'm holding out hope he decides to sign with the Vikes. He did say he wanted to be on the same team as Peterson.......a person can only dream....

That's all I got for major news so far that I've been keeping track on, any thoughts on what's gone down so far?

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Apparently Carolina was the last team to barely be under the cap. Which roughly means they likely won't be making any splashes in Free Agency. The story behind that is, almost every single member from last year's team will be returning. We cut D.J. Hackett, Jeremy Bridges, and Nick Goings. Out of that trio, only Bridges filled in as a member of the O-line that produced.

Goings was a Special teams player only, and Hackett spent more time injured than he did helping. Furthermore, Bridges had an off-the-field related authority issue with something illegal, which may explain why he was released as well.

So, FA news thus far, as said above and from nfl.com..

Albert Haynesworth got his 100 mil. deal, from the same Washington Redskins that claimed to not have been in any type of contact with him at all. Hmm, I sense some type of legal action coming before it's all said and done. Regardless of that though, I guess it's pretty easy to give 100 mil. over 7 yrs, when the rest of your team is pure shit. They also resigned DeAngelo Hall.

Minnesota did the dumbest thing possible. They traded a 4th round pick to Houston, for back-up Sage Rosenfels. Once again, you have actual starting QB potential on the market.. and you opt to trade something, for a back-up, to give your current (at best) back-up, competition. Nice.

Tampa Bay got a great player in K2 (Kellen Winslow) and he'll be used to the moon, as Tampa Bay crutches to their TEs, and he's one of the best. (if healthy) I'm curious what picks (ie. more than 1) they gave up for him.

Kerry Collins resigned with the Titans, which means we'll get another season of Vince Young-suicide watch. I don't know in all honesty, if Collins is truly as good a QB to be a starter, still. I mean, he hasn't truly made any type of splash until last season in almost how many years? And suddenly, because of a great defense, and an even better running game.. the QB who doesn't have to throw much, is seen as a great help? Why?

New England added Fred Taylor to their ground game, which once again makes you believe they've completed their team. They also added the former Jet TE, Baker, but I think that's just to gain some type of advantage over NY once again.

Speaking of NYJ, they added Bart Scott. I'm unsure if Bart Scott will be good, but he's being reunited with his defensive coord. (I think, anyways) So I'm assuming he'll be used similar to how he was in Baltimore.

New York and Philadelphia are completing a trade that will send cornerback Lito Sheppard to the Jets while the Eagles will receive a 2009 fifth-round pick and a 2010 conditional draft pick.

The pick could be as high as a second-round choice in 2010 and as a low as a fourth. But the eagles will get two picks and the Jets get Sheppard, who will be in New York Saturday for a physical.

Seems like NY is once against strengthening it's Defense, which is Ryan's specialty, but without a strong QB to lead them.. what good will it do?

Brian Dawkins might become a Bronco. I question this move, just because I'm unsure how his age might effect playing in the mile-high air, but we'll see. Also, apparently Jabar Gaffney, J.J. Arrington & Buckhalter are Broncos now.

Maurice Morris is a Lion, but I think Detroit needs to stick to their new rookie sensation.

 

[BooCocky]

I had a nice reply going like 20 minutes ago, then my computer froze

Anyways, The Vikings acquired Sage because he is an upgrade, and he showed potential during last years run with the Texans. He was growing into the starters role quite nicely. He was ridiculed for one bonehead mistake against the Colts last year, well several mistakes in like 2 drives. Rofl. Besides, he only went for a fourth round draft pick, and if he isn't worth a fourth round draft pick, I'll shit.

Ray Lewis is in some trouble in my opinion. His Linebackers in Baltimore went elsewhere, and The Girls don't want him. I can't blame them, top dollar for like a 35 year old. A little ridiculous, plus Dallas' problem isn't on the defense, it is on the offense. I am gonna laugh my ass off when they release Roy Williams, the safety, not that overrated receiver.

Anyway, I can't believe Denver signed Dawkins, yes he is one of the best at what he does, but Denver has a lot of holes to fill, like working on both lines, and trying to get younger in the process, now they took on a decent contract when they need a lot of work. Hopefully the acquire some running backs, and work on the lines during the upcoming draft. If not, they'll be in for a long season again.

I still can't believe the Steelers resigned Chris Kemoeatu. O wll, there line needs work, but it was good enough to win us a sixth superbowl.

I was pissed that Saturday went back to the Colts, but I can't fault his agent for baiting the Colts into signing him for some money.

Houshmanzadeh is a top notch receiver and his deal in Philly is falling through the roof. Anyway, I don't care where he ends up, as long as it is out of the North.

I have to laugh at all the players who want out of Cleveland. Winslow wanted out, his wish was granted, Rogers wants out, more than likely he'll go elsewhere, Edwards wants out. I hope he goes elsewhere, but Cleveland isn't that dumb. Or are they?

Haynesworth deal was pretty risky for a man who was mediocre at best his first couple of years. It should work out as long as he doesn't step on another player. D Hall signed with the skins, good for him, to bad he is overrated, and they over paid for a "decent" CB. No wonder why they haven't done anything in like forever.

Jason Brown just signed a deal with the Rams, too bad they suck and overpaid for a 26 year old center, The Rams franchise is officially the laughing stock of the NFL. No wonder why they haven't won in like 5 years, especially when they make moves like this, and they need to fill a lot more holes. Have fun standing behind the mediocrity line STL. Well, probably not, there division is complete ass and every gm and owner in that division is legally senile.

Anyway, FA just started, and the so called big names are already off the market, except for a few. Can't wait until draft day.

 

[Lil Wes]

Anyways, The Vikings acquired Sage because he is an upgrade, and he showed potential during last years run with the Texans.

Yeah, because being an INT and sack machine is showing so much potential

He looked ok against Indy at home, and Minny on the road. Other than that, I didn't see anything that screamed starter worthy. He's complete garbage as a decision maker and a turnover machine. Good luck with JT O Sullivan 2.0 Minnesota. You better find your Shaun Hill.

Makes no sense whatsoever. Jeff Garcia, a guy whos a proven leader, can step in anywhere and learn fast, and get teams to the postseason is right out there for the taking and you botch it with a lame trade. Way to go Minnesota, way to fix the only thing holding you back from being a contender with some inconsistent scrubs who probably fumbles his own balls when jerking off.

T Jack vs Sage Rosenfels. Wow, seriously Brian. Think about that. T Jack vs Sage Rosenfels. Think.

Besides, he only went for a fourth round draft pick, and if he isn't worth a fourth round draft pick, I'll shit.

Might as well get your toilet paper ready then. Rosenfels isn't a NFL starter.

Ray Lewis is in some trouble in my opinion. His Linebackers in Baltimore went elsewhere, and The Girls don't want him.

Wrong. Jerry is just playing games and thinking out things right now. If he doesn't want Ray Lewis, he'll say himself. Not some "sources" Ed Werner heard from.

IMO, Lewis is a Cowboy next season. Zach Thomas needs to be replaced, and with Burnett going to be gone. Lewis needs to be here, it helps us on the field and in the locker room. Perfect fit.

I can't blame them, top dollar for like a 35 year old

lol, a 34 year old whos still one of the best LB's in the game.

A little ridiculous, plus Dallas' problem isn't on the defense, it is on the offense.

No, Dallas' problem is in the locker room. Something Ray Lewis can help loads. Our defense wasn't exactly great either Brian. It cost us games down the stretch.

I am gonna laugh my ass off when they release Roy Williams, the safety, not that overrated receiver.

Why? Roy Williams is complete shit as a safety and hasn't done shit worth mentioning in 4 years. If he stuck around, he was likely going to move positions.

TO actually helps us on the field...

 

[BooCocky]

Yeah, because being an INT and sack machine is showing so much potential

He looked ok against Indy at home, and Minny on the road. Other than that, I didn't see anything that screamed starter worthy. He's complete as a decision maker and a turnover machine. Good luck with JT O Sullivan 2.0 Minnesota. You better find your Shaun Hill.

He was a turnover machine behind a pathetic offensive line. He was sacked 9 times in 6 games. Which is a little more than one a game. Not many QB's who get sacked less than one time a game.

Makes no sense whatsoever. Jeff Garcia, a guy whos a proven leader, can step in anywhere and learn fast, and get teams to the postseason is right out there for the taking and you botch it with a lame trade. Way to go Minnesota, way to fix the only thing holding you back from being a contender with some inconsistent scrubs who probably fumbles his own balls when jerking off.

Jeff Garcia isn't a long term solution, he is on the brink of retirement, and Minnesota isn't built just for one year, they are built for several years. Which is why they went out there and got "there" guy. I have no idea what they see in Sage, but I guess they get a running game going they will have no problem with them throwing twenty times a game and leaving it up to there defense to win games. He'll be there older version of Joe Flacco. Hopefully he'll make some plays and win games, as long as he doesnt lose more than he wins.

Might as well get your toilet paper ready then. Rosenfels isn't a NFL starter.

Apparently Houston thought so, when injury prone Schaab went down several times the last few years. He was there back up, and such.

Wrong. Jerry is just playing games and thinking out things right now. If he doesn't want Ray Lewis, he'll say himself. Not some "sources" Ed Werner heard from.

Hey, he might not be the most reliable, but he hasn't been to bad this year. So far.

IMO, Lewis is a Cowboy next season. Zach Thomas needs to be replaced, and with Burnett going to be gone. Lewis needs to be here, it helps us on the field and in the locker room. Perfect fit.

You'll have to out-pay Baltimore who is gonna pay a shitload because they lost all there good linebackers.

lol, a 34 year old whos still one of the best LB's in the game.

Meh, last year he was showing signs of losing steps, he was out of place several times during there playoff games against the Steelers, something a 30 year old Ray Lewis doesn't do.

No, Dallas' problem is in the locker room. Something Ray Lewis can help loads. Our defense wasn't exactly great either Brian. It cost us games down the stretch.

They played a lot better when Fat ass took over the play calling

Why? Roy Williams is complete shit as a safety and hasn't done shit worth mentioning in 4 years. If he stuck around, he was likely going to move positions.

I guess it is so easy for a washed up bumb to learn a new position.

 

[Lil Wes]

He was a turnover machine behind a pathetic offensive line. He was sacked 9 times in 6 games. Which is a little more than one a game. Not many QB's who get sacked less than one time a game.

You just made that pathetic offensive line look good with that stat you just threw out there. No but really, I watched Texans games and the dude was getting hit left and right because he's a shit decision maker and doesn't get rid of the ball, alot like YA BOY Big Ben. He tries to hard to be a playmaker when he really isn't, makes terrible reads and looks like a scared bitch half the time.

He cost his teams games, do you really want a QB that does that kind of shit along with fumbling and throwing picks left and right? Hell all of this shit is not even full season and in Minny he won't have Daniels, Walter and Andre Johnson to throw too. Overall, he's just not starter material and Minnesota doesn't have the receiving pieces to make him look like it.

Jeff Garcia isn't a long term solution, he is on the brink of retirement, and Minnesota isn't built just for one year, they are built for several years.

Yeah, and so is Green Bay. Chicago will be back sooner or later too, might as well win now. The NFL is a WIN NOW league. Who gives a shit about the future? When you can contend with a guy like Jeff Garcia now, you do it. No questions asked. Esp with your division as weak as it as at the moment.

BTW, excuse me for totally forgetting a 31 year old career backup was the missing solution for now, and the long term

Apparently Houston thought so, when injury prone Schaab went down several times the last few years. He was there back up, and such.

Yeah, a back up. He's not a bad backup to have, but he's not a starter. Some guys just aren't, he's one of them. A injury ridden Schuab also performed better than him, that's not very encouraging.

Hey, he might not be the most reliable, but he hasn't been to bad this year. So far.

I guess you missed last season with all of his constant bullshit that was shot down and proven wrong many times.

You'll have to out-pay Baltimore who is gonna pay a shitload because they lost all there good linebackers.

We're cutting pay, so if our offer isn't enough. Baltimore can go ahead and overpay him. So be it.

Meh, last year he was showing signs of losing steps, he was out of place several times during there playoff games against the Steelers, something a 30 year old Ray Lewis doesn't do.

Um, yeah. He just had his best statistical year since 04 and was named 1st team All Pro. I'll take it.

We also run a 3-4, if he's losing steps, it won't show too badly. Ask Zach Thomas.

They played a lot better when Fat ass took over the play calling

True, but still cost us games down the stretch

I guess it is so easy for a washed up bumb to learn a new position.

Thanks for agreeing with me. Why keep him around and put up with him changing positions when you can just trade and get rid of him. Frees up $$$ too.

 

[BooCocky]

You just made that pathetic offensive line look good with that stat you just threw out there. No but really, I watched Texans games and the dude was getting hit left and right because he's a shit decision maker and doesn't get rid of the ball, alot like YA BOY Big Ben. He tries to hard to be a playmaker when he really isn't, makes terrible reads and looks like a scared bitch half the time.

Just because you don't get sacked it doesn't mean your line doesn't suck. Bens playmaking ability led to 2 super bowls in 4 years. It's led to 15 career game winning drives, and what should have been a super bowl MVP. Ben doesn't need to get rid of the ball when you can elude rushers and extend a play 4 more seconds. All the trash talking is coming from a Romo fan, hey there is Deshea Townsend, lets throw him the ball that leads to a score. o wait, Townsend plays for the other team

Anyway, Sage is still better than anything the Vikes have to offer. He had like one shitty game and that was against the Ravens. One of the better defenses in the NFL.

He cost his teams games, do you really want a QB that does that kind of shit along with fumbling and throwing picks left and right? Hell all of this shit is not even full season and in Minny he won't have Daniels, Walter and Andre Johnson to throw too. Overall, he's just not starter material and Minnesota doesn't have the pieces to make him look like it.

He wont have Andre Johnson to throw the ball to, but he might have Houshmanzadeh, and the best back in the nfl to hand the ball of to, and will have the best defensive line in football to back him up. If he maintains control of the ball they should be successful.

Yeah, and so is Green Bay. Chicago will be back sooner or later too, might as well win now. The NFL is a WIN NOW league. Who gives a shit about the future? When you can contend with a guy like Jeff Garcia now, you do it. No questions asked. Esp with your division as weak as it as at the moment.

Not really, GB has a lot of question marks, they are turning into a 3-4 defense, and there defense was sub par last year. Chicago still sucks, and that defense isn't getting any younger. Who cares about the future? Say that to teams who build through the draft. Teams that don't go out and get a high profiled free agent.

BTW, excuse me for totally forgetting a 31 year old career backup was the missing solution for now, and the long term

I believe he is 30, and he'll have more years left than Garcia

Yeah, a back up. He's not a bad backup to have, but he's not a starter. Some guys just aren't, he's one of them. A injury ridden Schuab also performed better than him, that's not very encouraging.

An injury ridden Schaub who had weeks to get healthy.

I guess you missed last season with all of his constant bullshit that was shot down and proven wrong many times.

he's a reporter, but he is still semi reliabke

We're cutting pay, so if our offer isn't enough. Baltimore can go ahead and overpay him. So be it.

which it wont be. rofl

Um, yeah. He just had his best statistical year since 04 and was named 1st team All Pro. I'll take it.

And let him be nowhere around when the game matters.

We also run a 3-4, if he's losing steps, it won't show too badly. Ask Zach Thomas.

lemme call him up...

True, but still cost us games down the stretch

and so did your offense. Your defense also kept you in some games when your offense decided to go turnover happy

Thanks for agreeing with me. Why keep him around and put up with him changing positions when you can just trade and get rid of him. Frees up $$$ too.

Too bad no one would want him. He's slow, and cant cover worth shit anymore. And who knows if he'll perform well at his new position? I sure as hell dont.

 

[Lil Wes]

Just because you don't get sacked it doesn't mean your line doesn't suck. Bens playmaking ability led to 2 super bowls in 4 years. It's led to 15 career game winning drives, and what should have been a super bowl MVP. Ben doesn't need to get rid of the ball when you can elude rushers and extend a play 4 more seconds. All the trash talking is coming from a Romo fan, hey there is Deshea Townsend, lets throw him the ball that leads to a score. o wait, Townsend plays for the other team.

Yeah, I don't know what all of that was about. That wasn't a shot at Ben outside of him holding onto the ball so long. It was a shot at Sage for trying to be something he's not. I know Ben's accomplishments from having the illest irresponsible motorcycle crash ever, to winning two Super Bowls and missing easy fade routes. But it's whatever.

and lol @ that shot at me for Romo when I'd jumped on his ass all season long for not cutting it out with the turnovers.

Anyway, Sage is still better than anything the Vikes have to offer. He had like one shitty game and that was against the Ravens. One of the better defenses in the NFL.

Led by Ray Lewis along with Ed Reed btw ^

And yeah, he might be better. But is it a significant upgrade? Enough to get them to the Super Bowl or make them automatic contenders? Nope. They have more to prove. They botched it.

He wont have Andre Johnson to throw the ball to, but he might have Houshmanzadeh,

If so, good for him. That'd be a nice move by the Vikes. But it's a pipe dream. Housh is likely Philly bound. Sage is going to be stuck with Berrian and whoever there other no name WR's are. Good luck putting a career backup who creates more turnovers than the fucking Food Network on a team that has no legit receiving weapons.

and the best back in the nfl to hand the ball of to

As much as Peterson is worked, what if a serious injury occurs? He's been rather prone since his college days.

and will have the best defensive line in football to back him up. If he maintains control of the ball they should be successful.

Which is his ultimate problem, which is why this makes no sense whatsoever.

Not really, GB has a lot of question marks, they are turning into a 3-4 defense, and there defense was sub par last year. Chicago still sucks, and that defense isn't getting any younger.

Um, yeah Brian. Try thinking while you're reading. I'm saying those teams will take another year off (this upcoming season) and Minny should take that division. It's what they do after that's the concern. Can Rosencopter take this team deep into the playoffs, that's it's ultimate goal. He wasn't a good enough upgrade to do so. Garcia has proven he can and still has it. Much better choice.

After this season, assumming they don't surprise. GB should be back in contention, Chicago still has offseason work to do next year on defense. But they've found some hidden gems in that offense. Minny might as well win now while this division is a joke.

Who cares about the future? Say that to teams who build through the draft. Teams that don't go out and get a high profiled free agent.

AKA teams that aren't contenders or on the brink of it right now.

I believe he is 30, and he'll have more years left than Garcia

Assuming he even pans out. Which he probably won't.

An injury ridden Schaub who had weeks to get healthy.

LOL, Schaub plays banged up half the time. He's like glass.

he's a reporter, but he is still semi reliabke

Not on the Lewis thing. Like I said, Jerry would just come out and say.

which it wont be. rofl

rofl, we'll see.

And let him be nowhere around when the game matters.

In the playoffs...

9 - lead team
11 - Scott only had one more
9 - lead team

Lead his team in tackles this postseason, along with a couple of forced fumbles and pass deflections.

and so did your offense. Your defense also kept you in some games when your offense decided to go turnover happy

Yep. But the point is down the stretch, our defense flopped.

Too bad no one would want him. He's slow, and cant cover worth shit anymore. And who knows if he'll perform well at his new position? I sure as hell dont.

First of all, he could never cover.

Secondly, he'll be traded, someone will take the risk. It won't be for much, but who gives a shit.

 

[truk24]

If I had to pick between Rosenfels, and Garcia I would take Garcia. Then again everyone has forgotten about Byron Leftwich. He hasn't been re-signed by Pittsburgh. He has more upside than either of those two QB's mentioned. He understands the game, and has proven he can put the ball in the air, although he isn't the most accurate.

John David Booty is not receiving any attention by anyone. He wasn't given much respect out of college, but he is progressing well with offensive scheme. He is a smart man, and I think he may be the future of the franhise. I understand he hasn't had much time to show, but he looked comfortable in his rookie preseason. That isn't something you see in a rookie QB to often.

I can't understand why or how the Skins or any team for that matter would sign a NT to 100 million dollars. This is what makes me not like the NFL. Tom Brady doesn't even make this much, neither does Randy Moss, or even Tony Romo. Albert won't win the game late in the 4th Qtr. At what point should he make more than the average QB. Which he does, if you count all the extra bonuses. I hope he blows out his knee, and doesn't play a snap this year. For him to even consider that he is worth that much to any team is selfish, and ridiculous. The Skins won't even make the playoffs, and they will cut him in 2 seasons.

I like the move that Rex Ryan, and the Jets have made towards the defense. With Bart Scott, and Lito Sheppard now this team is a sure threat to the AFC East. Now all they need is a QB. I bet Kyle Boller comes to town, and turns his career around....lol(just kidding). However, if they are lucky enough to land Grossman, or even draft someone like Sanchez they should be in solid shape. Rex will lead a strong enough defense to have a rookie start, or an avg joe like Leftwich, or Grossman.

I can't understand how Peppers hasn't been dealt yet by the Panthers. They have hardly any cap space, and he is sucking up 16 million of it. The Chiefs didn't give up a 1st rd pick for Cassels, so why would anyone give up 2 picks for Peppers. I'm sure a draft day trade may occur. I wouldn't be surprised if they dealt him to Philadeplhia, or even Miami.

The same can be said for Anquan Boldin. He is a for sure all pro, and he will produce solid numbers no matter where he goes. I don't see why Arizona can't or won't deal him away. They still have Larry, and Breaston. It is a strong possibility that they could land someone like Coles. Anyhow I think he will be a draft day trade as well. He is another player I could see going to the Eagles, and even the Falcons.