NFL AND NCAAF bar room thread

[George Steele's Barber]

Speaking of the Bills.

Eagles trade Lesean McCoy to Bills for Kiko Alonso.

Wow. Spiller is out of Buffalo for sure now.

Wow, I'm not sure if I am more amazed by this trade or that I heard it on WZ Forums before anywhere else.

Ty Burna is now my John Clayton, except not part alien.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

Now all Buffalo needs is a decent QB and they could be darkhorse contenders in the AFC East. They have a top notch D already, even without Alonso.

 

[Ty Burna]

Wow, I'm not sure if I am more amazed by this trade or that I heard it on WZ Forums before anywhere else.

Ty Burna is now my John Clayton, except not part alien.

As far as you know anyway.

 

[Papa Pillman]

As far as you know anyway.

More fuel for the "diversity" thread.

 

[Papa Pillman]

Now all Buffalo needs is a decent QB and they could be darkhorse contenders in the AFC East. They have a top notch D already, even without Alonso.

What, in the name of Mark Sanchez or Geno Smith, really makes you think that there is any chance in hell that Rex won't ride the EJ Manuel boat right into the rocks???

 

[Richard Blonoff]

What, in the name of Mark Sanchez or Geno Smith, really makes you think that there is any chance in hell that Rex won't ride the EJ Manuel boat right into the rocks???

Knowing Rex he indeed will ride the Manuel train until the wheels fall off and then ride it some more, but if they had a decent QB they could compete.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Speaking of the Bills.

Eagles trade Lesean McCoy to Bills for Kiko Alonso.

Wow. Spiller is out of Buffalo for sure now.

I thought he already got cut?


Anyways, great move by the Eagles. RB's are a dime a dozen, the draft is loaded with them, Shady had turf toe last year, and Alonso is a fucking stud.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

What, in the name of Mark Sanchez or Geno Smith, really makes you think that there is any chance in hell that Rex won't ride the EJ Manuel boat right into the rocks???

Oh rest assured, Rex Ryan CANT WAIT to stubbornly start EJ Manuel for weeks on end past the point of even a 6th grader who plays madden being able to see its time to move on

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I hope the Bills can keep it going with Iupati or one of the Dallas RTs.

 

[klunderbunker]

I hope the Bills can keep it going with Iupati or one of the Dallas RTs.

Shush your filthy mouth.

 

[Ty Burna]

Cassel to the Bills for a couple picks, sounds like Minnesota sent one with Cassel.

Cassel would have been a good backup but this gives him a chance to start again. I'm unsure of what picks we got. This leaves us without a back up and I refuse to think we bring Ponder back.

Also frees up 4.75 mil of cap space for us.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

I hope this leads to a miracle happening and the Patriots not winning the division.

 

[Torgo]

Philly fans are smiling thinking they won out. BUT...

Kilo is coming off a second knee injury (first was in college) and 3rd surgery. Hasnt played for a year, and the second half of his rookie year was ho-hum.

Bills on the other hand got a proven stud RB to replace old FredEX and C.J.

I believe my Bills won this trade.

 

[Thriller Ant]

Philly fans are smiling thinking they won out. BUT...

Kilo is coming off a second knee injury (first was in college) and 3rd surgery. Hasnt played for a year, and the second half of his rookie year was ho-hum.

Bills on the other hand got a proven stud RB to replace old FredEX and C.J.

I believe my Bills won this trade.

Bills o-line isn't that good, which automatically devalues any running back. Philly got a LB who had a good rookie year and is on a very team friendly contract, which will allow the team to add more pieces around him. I don't doubt that McCoy will be better than what Buffalo had before, but the running back can only do so much to help the running game.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Not to mention MCcoy has a 11.75 cap hit and averaged 4.2 ypc last year, down a full yard from the rest of his carreer.


You gotta move on a year early, not a year late, especially when this much money is involved

 

[jmt225]

I'm heartbroken and also kind of pissed that the Saints cut Pierre Thomas. That guy still had another good year in him, maybe even two or three. And it's not like we really saved anything by cutting him. There were plenty of other guys that deserve the axe more than him.

Pierre should have finished his entire career here. It really sucks he didn't get that opportunity and now we fans have to see him suit up with someone else next year.

Now if we cut Colston then I'm REALLY gonna be pissed and devastated. Colston is a guy who I know for a fact will take paycut, so there's no reason to just flat out cut him, especially when you're staying loyal to guys who didn't produced HALF of what Colston and Pierre did last year.

Also, just want to point out that Troy Polamalu is one of my favorite players ever to never wear a Saints uniform. I'm bummed that his play has deteriorated like it has the past couple of years, but it really did and I hope he realizes that and just retires instead of trying out for another team. That guy is going to be one AWESOME coach if he decides to pursue that, and in my book he is without a shadow of a doubt a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Brandon Marshall to the Jetskis.


LOLWAT

 

[jmt225]

Colston took a pay cut and is remaining a Saint, thank God.

Still bummed about Pierre though.

Brandon Marshall to the Jetskis.


LOLWAT

Marshall, Decker, and Harvin is a really good 3 WR line-up.

If only they had someone competent to throw them the ball...





It's going to be really interesting to see what the Bears do with Jay Cutler now. If he's on the block I'd bet the Titans take him.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Yea, maybe. Not sure what their cap situation is.


Logic (and rumors) say the Bears made the move to free cap space to get Suh, but I just cant belive Suh would ever sign with a team who ran a 3-4 defense. Hmm.

 

[Papa Pillman]

Marshall, Decker, and Harvin is a really good 3 WR line-up.

If only they had someone competent to throw them the ball...

I will be SHOCKED if Harvin is not released.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Brandon Marshall to the Jetskis.


LOLWAT

Makes sense for the Jets. They need to spend money and they needed a #1.

Gave up a 5th for him. WELL worth it.

Marshall, Decker, and Harvin is a really good 3 WR line-up.

If only they had someone competent to throw them the ball...

You mean Marshall, Decker, and Kerley is a really good 3 WR. Harvin is gone (not worth $10.5M as well as a 4th round pick). And Kerley is a good slot receiver so it still fits.

The QB situation is easily resolved. Marcus Mariotta may be available at 6, and they could either go with him or trade with Philly for 2 Firsts and Foles.

That or Mark Sanchez and Matt Moore are available in Free Agency.

 

[Akhilleus]

It's not like running backs mean much anymore in the NFL. Murray had a great year but he's shown no signs that he can do that every season.

Which is why the good ones are so much more valuable. Murray however, I believe was just having a career year. He's going to go back to his usual next season, especially since he'll be in a different offense. He's too injury prone. Then again I'm just saying that because if he plays the way he did last year then I get killed in a trade a made a couple years ago.

It was D. Murray and D. Thomas from the Broncos for Eddie Lacy and Vincent Jackson. It was already a little on his side with Thomas, but I liked Lacy and Murray had been doing nothing but getting hurt and sucking balls...and Thomas I thought would die down once Manning retired.

But now I have old man Vincent Jackson, and Eddie Lacy who I love but I think he's going to have a short career.

But back on subject, running backs are very valuable. I don't buy into that whole "It's a passing league" bullshit. RBs are valuable in all aspects of the game. Fantasy too...I take a RB in the first two rounds of every fantasy draft. You can always find QBs and WRs that put up big points week to week, but RBs there's only a handful of good ones and I like to have them.

 

[Big Sexy]

If the Cowboys can't replace Murray's production then they will be go back to being a .500 team. Before this year they were average because they were one dimensional on offense and couldn't stop anyone on defense. Having a healthy Murray for most of the season and committing to the running game allowed their passing game to be more effective and it kept their defense off the field.

The running game may be a lost art and running backs are much more expendable nowadays, but it's still important to have a great running game. 5 of the top 10 rushing teams last year made the playoffs and 8 of the top 10 had a .500 record or better (almost 9 of 10 as Carolina went 7-8-1). On the flip side 5 of the top 10 passing teams also made the playoffs and 7 of 10 had a .500 record or better.

As far as Suh goes he is right up there with JJ Watt as the most dominant defender in the NFL and he's definitely the best DT. He draws a double team nearly every play and makes everyone on the defense better. If you really watch him play he has a freakish combo of size, speed, and ability. Playing DT and always being double teamed doesn't allow him to put up huge sack numbers and he isn't a flashy player, but whoever gets him will be getting greatness.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

Heard something about Miami going after Suh, that'd be a nice addition to an already good D. But I think they could use the money they'd spend on him on a top WR or top RB.

Also as a Denver fan, I hope we get Jordan Cameron if Julius isn't gonna return. Don't see why everybody wants them to sign Reggie Wayne though as he's not needed as long as D.Thomas resigns.

 

[klunderbunker]

If the Cowboys can't replace Murray's production then they will be go back to being a .500 team. Before this year they were average because they were one dimensional on offense and couldn't stop anyone on defense. Having a healthy Murray for most of the season and committing to the running game allowed their passing game to be more effective and it kept their defense off the field.

The running game may be a lost art and running backs are much more expendable nowadays, but it's still important to have a great running game. 5 of the top 10 rushing teams last year made the playoffs and 8 of the top 10 had a .500 record or better (almost 9 of 10 as Carolina went 7-8-1). On the flip side 5 of the top 10 passing teams also made the playoffs and 7 of 10 had a .500 record or better.

As far as Suh goes he is right up there with JJ Watt as the most dominant defender in the NFL and he's definitely the best DT. He draws a double team nearly every play and makes everyone on the defense better. If you really watch him play he has a freakish combo of size, speed, and ability. Playing DT and always being double teamed doesn't allow him to put up huge sack numbers and he isn't a flashy player, but whoever gets him will be getting greatness.

I remember earlier in the season on ESPN.com's Power Rankings, the blurb for the Cowboys said "Dallas is 9-1 under Jason Garrett when they run the ball more than passing. It can't be that simple.....can it?"