New finisher for Punk?

[cult_of_icecream_bar]

As it seems,punk is going to be in the ME scene for a long time.But his current finisher[GTS] isn't appropriate for a guy like him.He's not a power house like Cena.But he has to face big guys like kane,tensai,big show,henry etc.He can't use it on them.So i feel he should get a new finisher.The Pepsi Plunge was a good move for him.He can use a variation of a super kick or cutter.What do you feel?

 

[BizzarroNavarro]

Yeah I totally agree I wish he would have another Alt. finisher and I know people will say he can also use his anaconda vise but I wish he had another non submission finisher, and for the exact reasons you are saying, I mean the GTS looks fine whens hes doing it on smaller guys like ziggler and guys his own size but yeah it just seems non practical when hes against bigger guys.

Although I do like how he gave it to Kane at the PPV, I thought Kane sold it really good cause it looked like it caught him in the chest/gut area and kane looked like he got the breath knocked out of him like he just got a mean gut punch haha then fell backward. But I mean most of the time the GTS looks sloppy and doesnt look like it even connects.

 

[xJER1CH0H0L1Cx]

The Pepsi Plunge is soooo not a possibility since HHH would never allow it. I actually think the GTS is good on bigger opponents because of the old saying.."The bigger they are, the harder they fall."

 

[Headman]

While I like the GTS against people his size he does botch it a lot more than KENTA ever did. Punk isn't strong enough to use the move so it's not a logical finisher for him. I agree with others that one of those kicks he uses would be a decent finisher for a guy like Punk. As for the bigger they are the harder they fall comment. If he can't lift the guy and make the move look good it's probably not a good idea to use it.

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

I disagree. Why would he get rid of it for? Because it doesn't look epic enough like the Batista Bomb or the AA? GTS was a great moved used by KENTA in NOAH, and CM Punk popularized it in WWE. Sure, he doesn't use it nearly as well, it's still better than half the finishers in WWE currently.

And as for Pepsi Plunge, it's a fantastic move. And I wish people stopped bull shitting themselves by saying Triple H didn't allow Punk to keep the move when he came into WWE. CM Punk clearly stated several times that he quit doing the move, even in ROH, because it was destroying his knees. So no, I don't want CM Punk to destroy his knees, I'll take the GTS anyday.

 

[KoC417]

What's wrong with is combo of:
Flying Elbow
GTS
Anaconda Vice
Running Knee Lift (and yes that could be used as a finisher if sold correctly)
Super Kick is also in his move set

Hey wow that's 5 finishers! That's 5 Finishers! Doesn't CENA only have like 5 legit moves? lol kidding! (not really...)

But seriously why nitpick when the guy has so many possibilities to use. If they want him to slap a submission on he can do that. If they want him to fly, he can do that. He can execute the GTS on men larger than him and they sell it beautifully. So what's the problem? Why give him a new move this far in his career for him to try and adjust to/use. Let him be his current stuff is working for him.

And as far as the Plunge goes, as Ramm stated Punk discontinued the move due to personal reasons, mainly the toll it was taking on his body. So why would you people want him to bring a move back that could essentially cut his career short? Leave the man be. He's on the verge of breaking the longest WWE Title reign in the last what..20 years? He's quickly approaching the 280 day marks set by Cena and JBL. The ONLY other reign longer than those 280 days requires going back to 1994 with Diesel. Yokozuna held it for 280 days as well. Punk is at 216 days at present and still going strong.

It's like the old saying goes. IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT! He isn't hurting anyone his matches are still great high caliber matches. So why mess with a good thing? If he starts majorly botching the GTS then sure have him switch. Don't like the GTS on bigger guys? Fine no problem Flying elbow into the Vice! problem solved.

 

[Strife543]

The GTS is powerful enough it is a quick knee strike to the head wwhich can do serious damage/ Punk stopped using the Pepsi Plunge because he was afraid it would damge his knees real badly and the anaconda vice could be used as a second finisher

 

[thebarber]

he can clearly use th Anaconda Vice for the bigger guys. A SIGNATURE move is called this because fans can clearly relate that move with the superstar who uses. it. HHH has used the ugly pedigree for 17 years, god knows how many times that has been bothced and looked "bowling shoe" ugly, but he has kept it as it is his trademark finisher. No reason whatsoever to change the WWE CHAMPIONS finishing move at all.

 

[Headman]

I disagree. Why would he get rid of it for? Because it doesn't look epic enough like the Batista Bomb or the AA? GTS was a great moved used by KENTA in NOAH, and CM Punk popularized it in WWE. Sure, he doesn't use it nearly as well, it's still better than half the finishers in WWE currently.

And as for Pepsi Plunge, it's a fantastic move. And I wish people stopped bull shitting themselves by saying Triple H didn't allow Punk to keep the move when he came into WWE. CM Punk clearly stated several times that he quit doing the move, even in ROH, because it was destroying his knees. So no, I don't want CM Punk to destroy his knees, I'll take the GTS anyday.

No, looking "epic" has nothing to do with it. The fact that he can't pull it off half the time is the reason he should drop it. This site cracks me up. Sin Cara botches a move and he's blasted to hell by the internet fans. CM Punk botches and "It's Kane's fault" or "Cena's fault" or whoever else's fault that CM Punk wasn't strong enough to pull off his power finisher. It works fine when KENTA is out there doing it to juniors, just as it worked for Punk when he was on the midcard with the smaller guys. But the fact is it looks shitty and some people who aren't Punk apologists are getting tired of seeing him "knock people out" with knee's to the shoulder.

As for the Pepsi Plunge, any finisher that forces you and your opponent to be on the top rope is stupid. The logical thing to do would be to never fight on the top rope with a guy who needs to be there to hit his finisher. Otherwise it's just a pedigree.

 

[BK Styles]

Well, it has been awhile since someone's brought this up I suppose...

Why? All he's doing is lifting a guy onto his shoulder and dropping him onto his knee as he raises it up. He isn't throwing them into the air or anything. He hit a pretty sweet looking one against Kane at No Way Out, and against guys like Henry and Show, he can use the Savage Elbow. And then on top of that he has the Anaconda Vise. Besides, a lot of Punk's offense is based on strikes, and dropping someone onto your knee whilst lifting your knee into their skull sounds like a pretty damn nasty strike to me.

Punk's hit a few shite ones in the past (ask Snitsky, Mysterio, Kane just to name a few) but its been a while since I've seen him hit a truly terrible one. Saying that, Punk has really raised his game in the last 12-18 months, and become one of WWE's most consistent in-ring performers; GTS included.

As far as the Pepsi Plunge goes...just no. HHH or no HHH, the WWE wouldn't have someone using a top-rope version of a current superstars finisher. Doesn't matter if its HHH, Cena, Orton, or hell, even the Cobra. Forget about him saying it fucks his knees up; that may be true, but he still wouldn't be able to use it. Superkick? Don't recall ever seeing Punk hit one, but I'm not personally in favor of that. Cutter? See Pepsi Plunge; not happening. All of those have been used in the WWE before, where as the GTS and the Vise haven't. You say them; you think of one man (in WWE terms. Kenta still owns the move) They're synonymous with Punk as far as American wrestling goes.

In all seriousness, the GTS is the move that won Punk the WWECW title, his first WWE title, two of his world titles, and has put away countless opponents. He's used it as his primary finisher since 2007. Be realistic; it's going nowhere.

 

[jared96]

Wow i never seen pepsi plunge before i looked it up nice.
i love it. however i love gts and punk should keep this but i do wish he had a new finisher. gts is great just not awesome i would love a doubleunderhook drop.

 

[jared96]

i think that punk could pull off a shufle side kick or a superkick like you said.
maybe the reverse book end. and could call it the pipe bomb.
anyway punk will be good with still just the gts.
cause he always hits it fine.

 

[mikde_]

don't really understand this thread. Sure he botches the GTS a awful lot and will never pull it off aswell as KENTA but he has also used the savage elbow and the high kick to put away opponents before aswell as the anaconda vice. That's like 4 moves. A hell of a lot more than the majority of wrestlers in any promotion.

As for the plunge? It had nothing to do with triple h. Punk has stated countless times that it is 'hell on the knees' and I don't want punk to have to go through many surgeries for the sake of a pointless move.

 

[Flip83]

he can clearly use th Anaconda Vice for the bigger guys. A SIGNATURE move is called this because fans can clearly relate that move with the superstar who uses. it. HHH has used the ugly pedigree for 17 years, god knows how many times that has been bothced and looked "bowling shoe" ugly, but he has kept it as it is his trademark finisher. No reason whatsoever to change the WWE CHAMPIONS finishing move at all.

Agreed with everything said here. GTS for most opponents, if they are too big then you have the Anaconda vice. I dont understand what the need for a new finisher is. It's signature and can be and HAS been used as a a Finisher. A decent amount of wrestlers, especially MAIN EVENT guys, have 2-3 finishers. Punk does, Cena does, Taker does, and the list goes on.

 

[HUFMJCMaverick9]

As stated earlier Punk already has roughly 5 finishers and he does use all 5. There is no need to fix anything here. Maybe against the bigger guys he shouldnt use the GTS as much or try it and fail make it look realistic and go to the Savage Elbow or any other move he has. It looks sloppy sometimes but it keeps it real. Punk's all about being real.

 

[smizzy]

Punk's kicks are great. Why not capitalize on using one as a finisher, such as a Shining Wizard.

Have him cap off a title defense by like pointing at his shoe, stomp, run and hit the Shining Wizard and get the three. This introduces it to his repertoire and he could always signal to his foot as he does the "sleep taunt" before he attempts a GTS. It also goes right along with his idea of "putting opponents to sleep."

Another thing, I could see Punk using a Shooting Star because it fits his build. But he would only use it on certain occasions, but that's just me.

 

[H33LTurn]

I wish he would use the Anaconda Vise more often. Its a quick move, effective (I know from experience lol, OUCH!) and has that high impact quality that'll keep the fans on the edge of their seat wondering if Punk's opponent will tap. Plus it can be reversed just as easy as it is applied.

 

[theBec2101]

I dont mind the GTS. But I also cant desagree with the people that he might need another finisher for the bigger people he wrestles. But to be fair it the sport were even the greats botch every now and again.

I wouldnt mind through if Punk started using the elbow as his finisher. Its a great move looks devastating when performed right. I always liked it better then the atomic leg drop(I would rather have Hogan leg drop me then Yoko) The only flaw with it is that HBK uses/used it to setup his moves. But Punk using the elbow was also a great tribute to Macho Man.

I think he needs to use the andaconda vise more. I really like that submission. It looke painful, you can mix it up. I like how in the video game it was like a rock bottom then he perfomred the andaconda vise.

 

[smizzy]

Ok, if you just watched CM Punk attempt that GTS on Kane right now on RAW, that furthers the point that Punk needs a different option for the bigger guys. His knees damn near buckled and didn't even connect.

 

[keehlnate]

I'll go with a NO. GTS is Punk's trademark finisher and it should not go anywhere. Just like Cena's AA and Orton's RKO they have used it earlier in their careers until now. As for GTS not connecting? Well they have to do something on how it should connect rather than replacing it. I'm pretty sure they can rehearse it and hit that move 100%.

 

[Jomo_mark]

Well I personally feel there is no need to change it. He has hit the GTS on Kane a few times before, not just recently but even previously. Against bigger opponents such as perhaps Big Show or Tensai he could always use the anaconda vice or improvise on something like as others have said his kicks or top rope move.