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**MERGED** John Cena Heel Turn Speculation

dionlyone18

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Well all the threads are talkng about Cena and Trips turning heel so for soooo long well i belive all the Cena haters are about to get thier wish..check this out from a site i found.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/wwe-to-turn-a-top-superstar-heel-and-put-them-with-nexus.html

well if this is the case this would be as big as when austin turned hel....so which one would you want to see as a heel Cena or Trips?? better yet which heel turn would make the biggest impact???

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If John Cena turned heel, it could potentially turn the WWE on its ear, so to speak. John Cena is the most beloved and over face in the WWE and he's actually the face of the WWE in and of itself. Cena is a safe role model, superheroesque type of face wrestler cut from the same cloth as Hulk Hogan. Cena is the one that makes all the apperances on talk shows, he's the one that's most requested for the Make A Wish Foundation activities, he's the one playing it all the movies, etc. We've seen Triple H as a heel before, a damn good one at that. He's better as a heel but it won't have the same impact.

I know that John Cena started out in the WWE as a heel, but that's been well over half a decade ago. If the WWE can turn John Cena heel, do it in a definitive way, do it in a way that can be kept secret and that nobody expects, it could be epic. I believe that John Cena will eventually go heel, it's just a matter of time. He's still the top face in the WWE right now and, if they were to do it in the near future, I think it's the best time to guarantee a major reaction.
 
WWE is toying with the idea of turning a top Superstar heel and have them be the person behind The Nexus angle. The main people being pitched for a heel turn are Triple H and believe it or not, John Cena.

Cena turning heel would be a risk because of his popularity with kids and everything else, including merchandise. Triple H has wanted to turn heel for a few years now but with injuries to him and his co-workers, they haven’t had the right time to turn him.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


The question is so easy I wont even ask it. Thoughts????
 
Having Cena as the leader would make no sense whatsoever. The lack of logic if that were to happen would be stunning. He's been fighting against them since they debuted and they've attacked him multiple times. Why would he be with them? Besides, didn't he say he likes his role anyways?

As for HHH, I could go for it. He's been off TV for a few months so it would be a good way to bring him back and turn him heel. He probably wouldn't have a problem in getting over if he joined. If he just turned by himself, though, it might be a problem b/c people would still wanna cheer him.
 
If they do then the Nexus angle's days are numbered. The angle has thrived already and has done so with Barrett as the leader. Bryan will be back relatively soon and things will pick up all over again. These guys are working so well because they're not some big superstar. They're not some big masterminded scheme that has something hidden. They're 7 guys that are pissed off at WWE and are trying to invade it and make themselves get noticed. They don't need some big elaborate reveal to get over. Monday night the fans were all over them and they went out and beat John Cena clean. Why do they need HHH to help them? The ratings are up, the fans are into them, and they're not completely dominant like the NWO. Other than Barrett none of them are anything special. However, united they're hard to stop, which is the most important thing: since they haven't been booked as unhurtable, it makes them far more interesting. If you put a superstar with them, they're another heel group. Now they're interesting and the fans are reacting. Why fix what isn't broken?
 
If they do then the Nexus angle's days are numbered. The angle has thrived already and has done so with Barrett as the leader. Bryan will be back relatively soon and things will pick up all over again. These guys are working so well because they're not some big superstar. They're not some big masterminded scheme that has something hidden. They're 7 guys that are pissed off at WWE and are trying to invade it and make themselves get noticed. They don't need some big elaborate reveal to get over. Monday night the fans were all over them and they went out and beat John Cena clean. Why do they need HHH to help them? The ratings are up, the fans are into them, and they're not completely dominant like the NWO. Other than Barrett none of them are anything special. However, united they're hard to stop, which is the most important thing: since they haven't been booked as unhurtable, it makes them far more interesting. If you put a superstar with them, they're another heel group. Now they're interesting and the fans are reacting. Why fix what isn't broken?

I 100% agree with everything that you just said. If they put a well established Superstar in there it kills off any heat or unpredictablilty that this group has. Cena or Triple H (especially Cena) do not need to be put with this group. Like you said, ratings are up and people are actually interested in seeing where this is going. It would be crazy to do this.
 
If they do then the Nexus angle's days are numbered. The angle has thrived already and has done so with Barrett as the leader. Bryan will be back relatively soon and things will pick up all over again. These guys are working so well because they're not some big superstar. They're not some big masterminded scheme that has something hidden. They're 7 guys that are pissed off at WWE and are trying to invade it and make themselves get noticed. They don't need some big elaborate reveal to get over. Monday night the fans were all over them and they went out and beat John Cena clean. Why do they need HHH to help them? The ratings are up, the fans are into them, and they're not completely dominant like the NWO. Other than Barrett none of them are anything special. However, united they're hard to stop, which is the most important thing: since they haven't been booked as unhurtable, it makes them far more interesting. If you put a superstar with them, they're another heel group. Now they're interesting and the fans are reacting. Why fix what isn't broken?

Agreed. Keeping Barrett as the leader is what they should do. Bringing in some "big star" will just bring down the group in general and make them look like a bunch of rookies again. I dont even have a clue on a good story angle to get HHH into the picture. If he never had anything to do with NXT or the Nexus how would he be involved? Same with Cena. They should keep it the way it is
 
Turning Cena heel and making him the leader of Nexus may be about the stupidest thing WWE could do, it goes against everything they have done so far and makes it all pointless, there is no possible way of spinning the storyline so that it would makes sense for Cena to be the leader of a group of wrestlers that have been savagely beating the shit out of him since the beginning

As for Triple H, I have no problem turning him heel, however I don't think he needs to be the leader of yet another huge faction, he's had DX and Evolution, is that not enough?, I think Nexus are just fine without him as the leader

I'd much rather see them have the person behind Nexus be someone who isn't a wrestler or someone who is retired from in ring action, this may not be the most popular suggestion but they hinted at Ranjin Singh and Khali having a falling out, they could reveal Singh as the person who was secretly behind Nexus, and reveal it by having Khali get attacked by Nexus as Singh stands back a watches, then have Cole & King point out how Nexus hasn't touched Singh yet, after the attack all of Nexus turns toward Singh and do nothing, Singh grabs a mic and tells everyone how he was the one behind Nexus all along and that he tried to get Khali to join them but he refused etc., etc., etc.

The other idea I had was Teddy Long, Long could used Nexus to get payback on McMahon for all the crap he has had to deal with (probation, McIntyre, etc.) and then had them take out Cena, Raws top talent, in hopes that without Cena Raw would suffer and SD! would become the new "A" show
 
Barrett needs to remain the leader of Nexus. I originally thought, like most people, that Nexus was going to have a big surprise leader to take them to that "next level". You know, somebody who had been controlling all of their movements and using them like puppets to take control of Monday Night Raw. But then, I thought to myself...self...why does Nexus need a big important leader? Barrett is a great mouthpiece with considerable skill in the ring, and if they use him as the leader, he's going to get a major push. Heck, he's already convinced me that he's ready for a WWE title run. I am glad that they made it obvious that he won't be getting it for 60 (or was it 90?) days, because that gives them more time to build his character and legitimize him on his own. Because once he's WWE Champion, I don't think the Nexus can really exist as a faction. It'll be interesting to see how the group officially breaks down, but what's for sure is that they've all made a great place for themselves in the WWE. Yeah, they don't need Triple H as their big surprise leader. It would take the angle in a different direction that is predictable, and would probably end with the Game winning the WWE championship from Cena or Sheamus. And making Cena the heel leader would be a shocker, and I'm all for turning him, but it wouldn't make any damn sense at all. Maybe if they only beat him down once and Cena accepted Barrett's appology and handshake a few weeks back. But...they've taken him down half a dozen times...there is no way in which they can make it make sense at this point. If they wanted to use Cena, they should have taken that road weeks ago when they had the chance. But I honestly think they need to keep Nexus as the NXT season 1 rookies and not give them a WWE Superstar for a leader. Eventually, if they want to start aligning people in different ways, that would be interesting. Jericho and Edge both made cases for why they should be the leader of Nexus, and it's an interesting theory. If they brought in Edge or Jericho after the fact, and eased him in as a leader that could give them direction and legitimacy, that would be cool. But, they don't need a big surprise Triple H return. The King of Kings has been the focal point of the WWE for long enough, and making him the big bad man behind the Nexus invasion would just put him in the spotlight, and once again, make it all about him. And that's just not what they need if they're intentional about building 7 great new talents. And trust me...they need to do just that. Sorry Hunter, but we've Cena-nuff of you too...

Bryan will be back relatively soon and things will pick up all over again.

I wouldn't put all my faith in Bryan coming back to the WWE. He's been quite content in his indy circuit since being let go by Vince. Never say never, as the saying goes, and I wouldn't even be surprised if he doesn't come back. But his return may have nothing to do with Nexus, and it certainly won't make things "pick up all over again". They haven't really lost any steam yet, and Bryan was definitely not the thing keeping them entertaining. He's a great talent, but they buried him for months and made him look week. He doesn't even come close to having the "it" look, and while that's not the most important thing to me, it does matter to guys like Vince, Triple H, and Cena. When Bryan was attacking Cena and saying "you're not better than me" my reaction was just simply...um...why should we believe you? What have you ever done in the WWE to make that a believable statement. Like I said, Bryan is a good talent, but he's not the heart of Nexus, and I think they've done rather well without him. 7 guys is already a lot to keep track and push individually week after week. Having Bryan in the mix, especially when the WWE hasn't decided to push him or bury him, is just adding more chaos to an already chaotic angle. Yeah, maybe he will come back. If they offer him a contract, he'd be a fool not to take it, purely from a financial standpoint. But Bryan isn't the heart and soul of Nexus.
 
I assume this "Wrestling Oberserver Newsletter" is at least a somewhat credible source if this is getting posted, but they obviously have NO credibility on this whatsoever. Having Cena behind Nexus??? What was the author smoking when they came up with that one?

The sad thing is people believing there's any truth to this, and somehow blaming the WWE for actually thinking about it. Newsflash: It's BULL!
 
I've been assuming that the new gm is behind all of this..

That's just my assumption tho...

But as many have said, this would just be a bad move to have Cena or Trips to be behind this. It just wouldn't make nay sense for Cena to have these people attacking him. Seriously? How fuckin believable is that? Not at all to me.

I mean I could see VKM having HHH be behind this just to do it, but come on. I think Vince has been on a roll and he won't let this angle just go into the trash like that by having one of these 2 be the driving force behind the Nexus. This has really been playing out great and id hate to see this go to the shitter folks, as KB pointed out, the days of this storyline would be numbered indeed.
 
i highly doubt that they will turn cena heel. they have never really used cena as a hell and i hightly doubt that they will start now. cena as always been either a face or at most a twenner.

as far as triple h goes i just cant see how putting him in the group with the nxt guys would make any sense.

as the old saying goes if its not broke. dont fix it. and thats exactly what wwe needs to do.
 
I would like to see the Nexus angle play out as follows.

Keep the 7 united together with no other additions, unless Bryan Danielson returns. They do not need a top star as the leader, the fact that this group remains in tact is what makes them compelling.

At Summer Slam I would have Barrett reveal that he is Vince's bastard son and everything that has and will happen is due to Vince abandoning him and his dead mother. Then the NExus can take out every member of the McMahon family until they force Vince to put 100% control of WWE on the line at Survicor Series. If Barrett wins, he wins the WWE Championship and Nexus has full control of WWE. If Barrett loses, then Nexus has to leave WWE forever.

Put the belt on Barrett and give control to Nexus and then 2 weeks before the Rumble have Nexus call Vince out to the ring and humiliate him and make this statement "Vince, this is the end of the road for you and the WWE, because simply put there aren't anymore heroes left in the world".

Then you hear "Time To Play the Game".........and have the triumphant return of HHH ready to defend the McMahon family and take back the WWE.

Nexus could place a 1 million dollar bounty on HHH in the Rumble to make sure he does not win and make him enter at #1. HHH survives and wins the rumble and faces Barrett at WM 27 for the title and control of WWE.

Main event of WM 27 Wade Barrett (with Nexus in his corner) vs HHH (with Vince and the McMahon family in his corner).
 
Um...link? Or was this from the print newsletter, supposedly? Anyway, Vince won't even ponder the thought of turning Cena for years, unless he goes insane. He's a much smarter businessman than that.
 
Dude, just because it's a rumor, doesn't mean it's not a spoiler man. Come on man, use your head. I hate when people post spoilers or "potential" spoilers in the forums. I digress.

I don't think either of them are going to be revealed as the leader. I don't think it would be good for the group to have a veteran wrestler as their leader. I think they are doing fine just the way they are.
 
Turning Cena heel would be a bad move. Especially since his popularity as a face has been on the high rise lately. Look at when he beat the crap out of Darren Young, the people were behind Cena the whole time and were loving it. His mic skills have gotten even better over the years and I seldom hear him get booed anymore. As for Triple H, while it's more possible, it puts the whole Triple H/Shaemus thing on the backburner which would be a bad move because it'd be like them saying that Triple H was too scared to get back at him or Shaemus got the better of him. Other problem is that Triple H really did everything he could do as a heel. That's kinda why he went face was they ran out of ideas of how to get the crowd to hate him. On the other hand, where Triple H will stand in this whole Nexus thing apart from him possibly turning heel, I don't know.
 
i think cena or hhh as the nexus leader would be a bad idea ,i'd let hhh and shameus finish there business in a brutal hell in a cell or something crazy with hhh eventually winnin.and i'd use cena in a anti nxt group,maybe the new oddities"santino,kozlov,gold dust,kahli"and through mark henry in there. and use the anti nxt and odd balls gimmick to get them back in the pop for abit.
with a ending that has good old jr as the nxt leader.
that would be kinda kool.
 
Cena joining The Nexus makes no sense. It would essential mean they beat the shit out of him and cost him the wwe title to shock us all. Now on the other hand it would give us the longly awaited Cena heel turn we've been dreading. Now Triple H be the Nexus leader I really don't have a problem with that I actually wanna see it and it could possibly make sense with Sheamus now fighting along Cena.
I saw someone ask for the link so here it is.

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/wwe-news/wwe-to-turn-a-top-superstar-heel-and-put-them-with-nexus.html
 
No it shouldn’t be Cena. It would have been great to have Cena behind it but after the last few weeks they just couldn’t make it believable. As for Triple H I wouldn’t be pissed off if he were to be revealed as the mystery leader of Nexus, I mean he’s one of the greatest heel leaders ever, he’s been away from WWE for a while and he’s good at putting talent over if he truly believes they deserve it and I think he’d see that in Barret and maybe Gabriel.

I do think however that Nexus should remain as its own entity. No need to throw in an already established superstar as their leader, they’re already over as a heel faction with Barret as the leader. As KB said, why fix something that’s not broken.
 
I watched RAW for the first time in years this Monday. I was actually pretty happy to see these new guys. They're in a great role that I believe can be taken far, if done right. As much as I'd love to see John Cena as a heel again, the WWE can't risk it. Triple H seems to be the more likely bet.
 
I hope neither happens. Cena heels makes absolutely no sense. Why have a group that has beaten down a man for almost a month week after week be their leader. Makes absolutely no sense. HHH I could see, but isn't that great of an idea. They are a fine, well oiled machine that needs each other to work. And right now, its fine. No need to change it so it starts to get dumb and ends up another wasted idea.

P.S check the comments on the article Everyone is like "OMG CENA HELL YES ORGASM!!!#@%@$@$#%$#%$#"
http://www.wrestling-edge.com/wwe-ne...ith-nexus.html
www.wrestling-edge.com/wwe-ne...ith-nexus.html
 
Adding a main event talent to the group would take away the very essence of what the group is. What makes them unique is that none of them were anybody in the realm of WWE without this group. NOT ONE. They were rookies on a game show, and within a couple of months, they are the hottest thing in wrestling.

On top of that, what makes this group special is that it's not about having a leader. Barrett seems to take on that position within the group, but they share a common goal (whatever it may be) and lack internal egos. At this point, the concept is so unique that I feel like any tampering with it would kill the whole thing. Wrestling has the rest of its existence to use main eventers in stables, but this one does not need it. If anything, this group will probably elevate Barrett to the top of the card, so why would the group need someone else that's up there? It doesn't, and it shouldn't remotely be attempted.
 
As much as a Cena heel turn would be cool, Cena joining Nexus would make no sense at all, just as much sense as Samoa Joe joining the Main Event Mafia, and that was plain out silly. Triple H though, he hasn't actually had any involvement in the Nexus angle yet so its not like he has actually picked a side or any thing so I could see that working, as much as I think they are better off without a big star like HHH.
 
Cena being heel would not be to bad of a idea, the heels are still able to sell merchandise and think of all the fans that boo him will probly like him!!! The only way that the whole Nexus idea would work is if he got sicked of being slapped silly by them and eventually went with them and went by the phrase of only saying "you can't beat them join them" i feel it would be a big boost in ratings and people who quit watching because of Cena would start again. Triple H would be a good idea but be kind of lame if he came back and was the leader of the Nexus right away that be WAY to easy and boring, they would have to build it up.
 
well i admit that the Cena heel turn join up with the Nexus isnt as far fetched as most say.. remember years ago, Stone Cold joined up with Vince. more than once actaully. and the Cena/Nexus is NOTHING next to Austin/McMahon. so they have done it before. but will it happen? i doubt it.
 

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