LittleJimmy
Occasional Pre-Show
THANK YOU!!!! Best post of this thread. I thought VKM once said he believed the fans were tired of having their intelligence insulted? Well, some people dont must not mind being treated like a brainless child.
**MERGED** Brodus Clay Discussion- KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!
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THANK YOU!!!! Best post of this thread. I thought VKM once said he believed the fans were tired of having their intelligence insulted? Well, some people dont must not mind being treated like a brainless child.
Rabbid Wolverine
Pre-Show Stalwart
at first i was expecting the monster type gimmick but i think what they did was very interesting, he's like dusty rhodes but able to destroy wrestlers. I like how he was trash talking his opponent during his match. I want to hear him do a promo, should be interesting. He had a bit of a lot of big guys from before his day to me (dusty,akeem,rikishi)
for those people who are totally sh!tt!ng over this idea, i think you need to give it time. everyone was thinking huge monster but maybe this will give him an identity so we dont get him confused with all the so called monsters from the past.
The only thing I didnt like was his theme music.... i never like ernest miller..so that kind of cheesed me.
for those people who are totally sh!tt!ng over this idea, i think you need to give it time. everyone was thinking huge monster but maybe this will give him an identity so we dont get him confused with all the so called monsters from the past.
The only thing I didnt like was his theme music.... i never like ernest miller..so that kind of cheesed me.
Personally, I think this was all a work in order to make Laurinaitis look inept as GM. Other than that....I FUCKIN LOVED IT!!!!! I mean how many monster big men are on the roster? I like that he could get popular like Ryder but I still believe this was all a work.
Rowdy Robby Piper
Dark Match Winner
What....the....fu(dge) was this?!!?
It's as if someone took PN News, Ernest "The Cat" Miller, Disco Inferno, The Godfather, "Dancin'" Tracy Smothers, Flash Funk, and Akeem the African Dream, put their gimmicks in a blender....and voila!
To quote Rick James, "Cocaine's a hell of a drug." I don't think even Vince Russo could come up with something like this in his prime...
It's as if someone took PN News, Ernest "The Cat" Miller, Disco Inferno, The Godfather, "Dancin'" Tracy Smothers, Flash Funk, and Akeem the African Dream, put their gimmicks in a blender....and voila!
To quote Rick James, "Cocaine's a hell of a drug." I don't think even Vince Russo could come up with something like this in his prime...
Pay Per Ghost
What they f*ck happened in the thread section here
Hey Somebody Call My Mama! Somebody Call My Mama Ye!
Mr. Zion I can tell you something with all honesty, I have only read the results online and am in the process of downloading his debut coz I get no sound at work, but I am smiling. I do have long-term doubts as to what they are doing to a talent but the sheer fact that in all this internet/IWC/Dirt Sheet champion reality, WWE still has the gaul to do what they did and it greatly impresses me.
I don't think you have any stand in saying they changed their plan about him, just like I can't say this was their lan all along. There are flashes and glitter and a man is allowed to go out there and show off his charsimatic side rather than be a generic monster with constipated expressions.
Also, The Old Fart at the top is a billionaire and maybe he is there sitting atop because he is good at what he does.
Brodus Clay is still allowed to go in the ring and boy can he go. He is a man who is quick as a cat and put that in context with his size and that's genuinely impressive. Who said this was the 'reality era'? People have done shoots and vented their frustration on a live mic before. Bottom line, a talent has been told "Hey instead of making you another wrecking ball, we're gonna make you this pimped out guy, you will be allowed to cut promos where you can be as charismatic as you want, your matches will have decent amount of time, let's see if you can win over the crowd, give it your best."
So don't feel sorry for me Mr. Zion, my frown is upside down.
Somebody Call My Mama! Somebody Call My Mama Ye!
JaylisJayP
Getting Noticed By Management
On one hand I look at how horribly Mason Ryan has been used and think this Brodus Clay character is kind of a good idea. But then I think back to what the character is and just roll my eyes again. Whatever, I did laugh a few times, but I won't laugh next week. I'll likely just fast forward through his stupid schtick without giving it a second thought.
Grizzly0u812
Pre-Show Stalwart
have to say a little disappointed with the debute of Brodus Clay, not sure why they needed to repackage him in the first place but when he came out dancing, he looks like the love child of disco inferno and the kool-aid man but, we had gold dust who come out who was gold looking, a little on the fruity side sometimes ok most times but look how his character went, what about adorable adrian adonos, big guy, dressed in drag, had the flower shop and looked also fruity but kicked ass in the ring, will wait a few weeks or so to see where this goes, we had the god father who at one time was papa shango then what some kind of street fighter named Kalma or something like that and full circle as the god father with a ho train gimick.
only time will tell but for now not impressed with what they did with this guy who was dominating in the ring
only time will tell but for now not impressed with what they did with this guy who was dominating in the ring
WunNightStan619
Getting Noticed By Management
I absolutely LOVE IT..We all talk about how predictable the WWE has gotten but who the hell saw this coming? WHo new knew brodus was so charismatic??? He reminds me of Rikishi actually. Big fun loving dude and he was entertaining as hell. Im glad wwe decided to be creative for wunce and not go with the stereotypical monster heel. He def wouldve flopped eventually as all monster heels tend to do. Nice touch by WWE, hats off to creative for this wun lol
itssoeasy123
Championship Contender
How in the blue hell is this flawed? This gimmick is to get him over, and with Clay's charisma and talent, it'll work. He can be a monster down the line, but right now it's time to get him over first. It's simply really. WWE already have monster's in Mark Henry, Big Show, and Kane, they don't need another monster heel right now. It's common sense. This was completely out of left field and nobody saw it coming, and it was entertaining.
Wrestling is entertainment, there are always cartoonish gimmicks and over the top storylines, that's what professional wrestling is. Pro wrestling is not to be taken seriously, but to be enjoyed. It's pretty fuckin' simple. It's not a real sport, but a television show based on characters and storylines.
That "old fart" at the top owns the biggest wrestling company in the world, would've fired Jeff Hardy after he came out high at a PPV, would've fired Kurt Angle after countless run-ins with the law and being a insane drug-addict. Oh, and he will soon own the company that the clueless women in your sig runs before her company is ever competition to the WWE.
I'm still not sure how the funkasaurus thing is going to work out but I think Brodus Clay did a great job with it.
The charisma really came through. Can only speculate on how he feels about the gimmick, and how much input he had, but it was clear he put 100 percent into it and was a team player. Keeping that attitude can only benefit him.
I could have done without the side step dance moves in the intro but the double pose with the dancers, his facial expressions, how he talked and what he said during the match were all great.
I think his finish was weak but aside from my initial dislike of the gimmick I think he pulled it off. A top rope splash with some hand jives. Maybe a diving head butt as a throw back to bam bam. A power bomb with some rick rude hip gyrations while holding the guy in the air. He could incorporate the funk side of it into a move that really demonstrates his power and size.
The charisma really came through. Can only speculate on how he feels about the gimmick, and how much input he had, but it was clear he put 100 percent into it and was a team player. Keeping that attitude can only benefit him.
I could have done without the side step dance moves in the intro but the double pose with the dancers, his facial expressions, how he talked and what he said during the match were all great.
I think his finish was weak but aside from my initial dislike of the gimmick I think he pulled it off. A top rope splash with some hand jives. Maybe a diving head butt as a throw back to bam bam. A power bomb with some rick rude hip gyrations while holding the guy in the air. He could incorporate the funk side of it into a move that really demonstrates his power and size.
edgecution123
Dark Match Jobber
I think this gimmick is supposed to be punishment for Clay spoiling his initial debut of taking out Jomo. After tonight however, I belive the puishment has backfired on Vince and will work out in Brodus' favor. Just like many of you I went from huh to wtf to this shit is hilarious and back to huh because I knew I was supposed to hate it but I didn't. I won't say I loved it but it was enjoyable and I was very impressed with the charisma shown by Clay. All in all I think Vince just gave the wrong guy a terrible gimmick because Clay was talented enough to make it work.
TheLogan27
Im the man
This is by far the worst gimmick they could have ever done for Brodus Clay. they could just have easily dressed him as the Shock Master for all that. I was very amp'd to see Brodus as a huge monster heel and dominate as he steem rolls through the competiton but now.......im just disappointed.
itssoeasy123
Championship Contender
And to the people who are saying it's all over for Brodus, and his career is dead:
I don't think anybody thought Rocky Miavia was going to be The Rock, or Stunning Steve Austin was going to be Stone Cold Steve Austin. How about the cape wearing, british talking Hunter Heart Helmsley?
Advice to everybody who think's his career is over: GIVE IT SOME FUCKIN' TIME!
I don't think anybody thought Rocky Miavia was going to be The Rock, or Stunning Steve Austin was going to be Stone Cold Steve Austin. How about the cape wearing, british talking Hunter Heart Helmsley?
Advice to everybody who think's his career is over: GIVE IT SOME FUCKIN' TIME!
itssoeasy123
Championship Contender
We already have a monster steamrolling thought everybody, his name is Mark Henry. We don't need another one. This gimmick will make Brodus be able to get over with his talent and charisma, and he can be a monster heel down the line anytime.
Right now it's about getting him over.
Good way to bury a real monster heel whp fans actually could believe in. But with Kane already occupying that role on Raw, Brodus had to be given somethingh else. This is obviously punishment for Clay after he ballsed up his own return a couple of months ago when he tweeted about returning to end Morrisons run in WWE. Vince always does this, puts ridiculous gimmicks on guys who have talent. SAnybody remember The Dragon( never refered to as being legendary performer Ricky Steamboat), Saba Simba(Tony Atlas), Who(Jim Neidhart), Max Moon(Konnan), gee I could go on for pages.
DCubedxDDD
Dark Match Jobber
I was shocked to say the least when Ernest Miller's old theme started up and Brodus comes out as the Funkasaurus....LMAO!!!! I was literally laughing the whole time. Who wants to see another hyped up monster destroy some jobber? Instead we get a shocking and hilarious Brodus Clay. He seemed to enjoy playing the crowd. I think he showed his range and is very charismatic. Wow can't believe I just described Brodus as charismatic...lol. I give the E and him credit go for going out on a limb and doing something fresh. Can wait to see where this goes....however, I'm still convinced Brodus will become a monster....just a matter of time IMO.
Grizzly0u812
Pre-Show Stalwart
what is so bad about having many monsters in WWE, back in the day they had many Monster like guys, the sumoian, Kamala, Bundy, Stud, George the Animal Steel, some good some bad, so whats wrong with one more monster, Brodus had the size, tattoos, a good look to him but like everyone says here and there, lets see how it plays out
itssoeasy123
Championship Contender
Yeah I know, firing people for ruining main event pay per views and being constant fuck-ups, that's "not letting guys be who they are." There's your excuse, and here's mine; it's what a rational, coherent company does. People fuck up, they get punished. Well atleast in the WWE.
And I don't even think Vince McMahon even know's what TNA, or who Dixie Carter, is. He once called TNA, "TNT," he has no clue, and why should he? TNA will never be competition to the WWE, so their no threat to Vince. Hell, they prominently featurde Ric Flair in the video package for the Four Horseman going into the Hall of Fame, and he's a TNA employee.
That was probably the greatest thing I've seen in some time. I was sitting there the whole time in anticipation and when they announced..from planet Funk! The Funkasaurus, Brodus Clay! His entrance...omg lol I honestly had no idea what to think. I wanted to hate it but...I just couldn't, I can't hate something that made me laugh that hard.
I don't see why people are getting so bent out of shape for. Really, does WWE need another random generic monster heel to come in,tear through jobber after jobber, have one or two big feuds just to be forgotten after a few months? Its been done before,countless of times. Why not dare a little and try something different. It obviously made an impact because had Clay debuted as another generic monster heel then I doubt he would have been the number one trend worldwide.
I liked it, its funky,its cool,its different. However if WWE does want him to be a future big player in the main event slot then I think he will eventually have to adopt a more serious gimmick but for now, everybody jump on the funk train!
I don't see why people are getting so bent out of shape for. Really, does WWE need another random generic monster heel to come in,tear through jobber after jobber, have one or two big feuds just to be forgotten after a few months? Its been done before,countless of times. Why not dare a little and try something different. It obviously made an impact because had Clay debuted as another generic monster heel then I doubt he would have been the number one trend worldwide.
I liked it, its funky,its cool,its different. However if WWE does want him to be a future big player in the main event slot then I think he will eventually have to adopt a more serious gimmick but for now, everybody jump on the funk train!
A) I'm mad I didn't trademark "Funkasaurus" back when I had the chance...
B) Not mad at his debut so much. WWE can always have him destroy anyone when they feel like it. So him doing this now throws everyone off the "Monster Heel" scent. And if they flip him, big shock to the kiddies.
P.S.- Before I described him as the lovechild resulting from a Tazz/King Kong Bundy/Mr. Hughes orgy....Now I think he's more of the bastard of Akeem and Ernest Miller....
B) Not mad at his debut so much. WWE can always have him destroy anyone when they feel like it. So him doing this now throws everyone off the "Monster Heel" scent. And if they flip him, big shock to the kiddies.
P.S.- Before I described him as the lovechild resulting from a Tazz/King Kong Bundy/Mr. Hughes orgy....Now I think he's more of the bastard of Akeem and Ernest Miller....
amazing_blue
Pre-Show Stalwart
This is exactly what the WWE needs right now; a fresh character who actually has a gimmick.
We have enough monsters around, especially now that Kane is on a roll.
We have enough monsters around, especially now that Kane is on a roll.
jus now saw this on dvr, i didnt know that the godfather, flash funk and james brown had a kid together. that was a waste of tv time. i feel dumber and a little gay for witnessing that im not sure who should be more embarassed for that, clay, or poor hawkins for losing to a guy named the funkasaurus
Skairipa Matrix
3 Time Elite Openweight Champion
when he debuted....this was my actual reaction ready? 
GREAT JOB VINCE YOU JUST KILLED THIS GUYS CAREER! 
i mean come on seriously hes a giant dancing dumbass? wheres this monster heel we were promised and teased with? honestly the only good thing about his debut with this stupid gimmick was curt hawkins got tv time i would have rathed brodus's debut keep getting pushed off and then eventullay he comes out pissed he had to wait so long to debut
GREAT JOB VINCE YOU JUST KILLED THIS GUYS CAREER! i mean come on seriously hes a giant dancing dumbass? wheres this monster heel we were promised and teased with? honestly the only good thing about his debut with this stupid gimmick was curt hawkins got tv time i would have rathed brodus's debut keep getting pushed off and then eventullay he comes out pissed he had to wait so long to debutYesiamaduck
Pre-Show Stalwart
I watched it back again, 3 times already , the more I watch it the more I like it and the more I can see this getting really over! Seriously looking back on it, came in and got no reaction what so ever (to be expected)
Did his entrance, decent sized pop (may have been for the pyro)
Does his thing in the ring and dances around, everything he does gets a reaction, ever increasing
Crowd heckler says 'You suck Brodus' Brodus turns to him and says 'My Bad' gets a cheer
Brodus wins to a decent pop, people in the crowd visibably on their feet and cheering (& dancing)
Considering he left with any reaction considering how deflated/confused the crowd would've been at the time is kind of impressive, Clay has the charisma to pull this off and he pulls off a face a hell of a lot better then I thought he would (at least based on tonight)
Not aimed at 'hardcore' fans but the casual's will lap this up, as will the kids and as will the live audience! This could be a merch spinner in the same way Zack Ryder was, this will also appeal to all those people into Irony, in short I think this character would do better business then monster clay ever would.
Did his entrance, decent sized pop (may have been for the pyro)
Does his thing in the ring and dances around, everything he does gets a reaction, ever increasing
Crowd heckler says 'You suck Brodus' Brodus turns to him and says 'My Bad' gets a cheer
Brodus wins to a decent pop, people in the crowd visibably on their feet and cheering (& dancing)
Considering he left with any reaction considering how deflated/confused the crowd would've been at the time is kind of impressive, Clay has the charisma to pull this off and he pulls off a face a hell of a lot better then I thought he would (at least based on tonight)
Not aimed at 'hardcore' fans but the casual's will lap this up, as will the kids and as will the live audience! This could be a merch spinner in the same way Zack Ryder was, this will also appeal to all those people into Irony, in short I think this character would do better business then monster clay ever would.
