**Merged** All John Morrison Discussion

[alexikosalov]

If he wants to continue in his career as a pro wrestler he should stay. Where else is he going to go, TNA?

I could see him leaving the business all together, instead pursuing a modeling/acting career. I don't think he ever loved the wrestling business.

 

[reed214]

Morrison has to get out of WWE. he can go out there and amaze people and do moves that no one else can do, but you can't change what people think of you. VKM doesn't like him and see's him as a "man" for past dealings, so he feels he shouldn't give him a push. he gets a pretty good pop everytime he comes out and all they have done with him lately is put other superstars over him. it is not worth getting buried and lost in the shuffle especially even WWE seems to not know what will happen next week.

he should try to get into ROH, work some different type of matches with guys who can wrestle, learn some new moves as he shows off what he can already do and maybe set himself for a comeback to the WWE who VKM has less to do with it. in all of this backstage mess, i thought being friends with RKO would have helped but i suppose it doesnt.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Morrison should have been released with Melina. Morrison is terribly overrated by a lot of people, he's nothing more than a spot monkey with absolutely no actual in ring talent. He's awful on the mic, he's got an awful look, and I still do not understand how anyone could honestly compare him to the WWE Legend and Hall of Famer The Heart Break Kid Shawn Michaels.

 

[The American Legend]

Honestly, I've been thinking WWE might put him together with Miz and Truth's conspiracy angle. But I digress.

If he does leave, I hope he starts the new wave, and signs with Ring of Honor. TNA is not the only big time option anymore. ROH is now on national, easily accessible public TV with some big money backing. No reason Morrison should see TNA as his only option. Right now, if I'm a wrestler, signing with ROH gives me the chance to be a part of something great. If Morrison is smart, he'll go there if he does leave

 

[CleverName51]

No brainer, MONEY. WWE pays better than TNA or any Indy fed.

Quite literally, who gives a crap if you're not in the Main Event of every PPV or used every week in television, a guaranteed pay check matters first and foremost.

Quite honestly, this isn't even a question. Unless you're Sting (who's been paid well and saved his money to the point he doesn't need the E's money) every single wrestler in the world would probably rather be in the WWE low card jobbing out in squash matches every single night than winning titles in a second rate promotion making less than half the money.

Hell, for me, if I was a wrestler, if I had a choice between making $50K per year as a jobber who frequently gets embarrassed and is the butt of every single joke in the WWE or $35K as a main eventer in a second rate company. Guess where I'd be, the WWE.

It's about money. Go where it is. Take the biggest paycheck. That's the best advice I can give to John Hennigan. Because as guys like Edge and others prove, you might just be one bad bump from a career ending injury.

If that happens, who do you want to be, Ric Flair/Hulk Hogan performing as a joke for that one last pay check? or Mick Foley/Undertaker/Sting, performing at your leisure because you have the cash saved up properly?

Exactly. John Morrison should stay with WWE because that's what is best for John Hennigan

 

[dwith]

I think it's funny that alot of you on here say how he need's to stay, cause the WWE is bigger, and he can make more money.
What ever happened to just being happy about the place you work for?
John Morrison should get away from WWE, and see how he feel's about his current situation, and ,maybe he'll go back, and maybe he will say "I feel great with all the pressure off of me in the big E, and I feel so much better about myself". Who know's. It's not alway's about the money, it's about being happy, and from the sounds of it he's not happy now.

Look at BATISTA, ANGLE, HARDY'S, JERICHO(MOSTLY),HOGAN, BISCHOFF,SHAWN MICHAELS(AGAIN MOSTLY), and their are countless others that leave willingly, and have not resigned, because there is something with WWE travel, and work schedules that sometimes just don't make the money worth while if you have no life outside of it. Wrestler's do have the right to be happy, and money isn't always the answer.

I think Morrison should go to TNA, and wrestle Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe, and all of the other great wrestler's there.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

If he wants to ****e himself out for money and be humiliated and misused then hell yeah, boy, stay in the WWE. Be laughing stock. Be a jobber. Be a big nothing on the roster while Mark Henry and The Big Show take the spotlight. Hope for a better future and waste valuable years of your wrestling career being filler on RAW which seems to have turned into a Triple H Appreciation Night every Monday. OR you can go to SmackDown which has turned into a big steaming pile of McMahon shit compared to the watchable product it was months ago. Go ahead and do that, see where it takes you. Be someone's bitch.

Or he could quit or get fired and keep his fucking dignity. He made good money so far, he can take care of himself. Meanwhile he can always wrestle somewhere else. There's Japan, there's ROH, DGUSA, TNA - pick one and be a wrestler, not a pro wrestling skank. Being a pro wrestler is not about the money, it's about your work. WWE doesn't let you work, therefore you get the fuck out.

It all comes down to this - if you love the business and you care for your legacy you'll pack your shit and be a wrestler somewhere else. If you just want to keep your wallet thick and serve Vince McMahon a healthy portion of ******io whenever he wishes, then you stay. Roll over, doggy! Simple.

 

[byrnside]

I think on paper it would be a better idea for him to go to TNA where he can get some "main event" level experience just like Christian did. I read one post earlier that might've proven me wrong, though. It said something to the effect of "they wouldn't be able to do anything with John Morrison because there are too many ex-WWE guys crowding the roster." That's actually a pretty good point. The poster also said something about how they tried what they tried with Christian with Jeff Hardy and failed, and I think this is where the poster is wrong. I don't think Jeff Hardy's failure is TNA's fault but Jeff Hardy's. I think John Morrison could do extremely well in TNA given his style. His in-ring work is great I won't deny that, but he needs to work on his mic skills if he wants to succeed in the WWE and I think he can get some experience with it at TNA.

On another note, has anyone thought that maybe John Morriso hasn't been getting wins lately because he may not re-sign?

 

[GrandSword]

I think everyone is being a bit hasty...

Morrison stood up to Johnny Ace, had a match on Raw against a former World Champion, was distracted and was beaten in a short match because I would say the opening segment went waaay over time.

Morrison I would assume will be in the babyface Survivor Series team with Cena, Sheamus, Punk and HHH. Which is not a burial at all. He will probably be the first one eliminated out of those but he'll still be in the main event...

 

[Dusty Roids]

I think everyone is being a bit hasty...

Morrison stood up to Johnny Ace, had a match on Raw against a former World Champion, was distracted and was beaten in a short match because I would say the opening segment went waaay over time.

Morrison I would assume will be in the babyface Survivor Series team with Cena, Sheamus, Punk and HHH. Which is not a burial at all. He will probably be the first one eliminated out of those but he'll still be in the main event...

everybody saying morrison is getting buried, is stupid. If he got buried he wouldn't even be on RAW, instead he would be jobbing on Superstars. Last RAW he stood up against John Laryngitis, he got fucking mic time! He is just being used to put people over as he is still over by some of the crowd. That is not a bad thing at all. He is helping the business.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

everybody saying morrison is getting buried, is stupid. If he got buried he wouldn't even be on RAW, instead he would be jobbing on Superstars. Last RAW he stood up against John Laryngitis, he got fucking mic time! He is just being used to put people over as he is still over by some of the crowd. That is not a bad thing at all. He is helping the business.

You are aware that Morrison is being buried, he's lost for something like 8 weeks in a row...

hes been squashed by both Heel Champions

Del Rio beat him in less than 2 minutes

Henry Worlds Strongest Slammed him into bitchhood about a week or so ago.

He also lost cleanly to Christian, the 2nd biggest heel on Smackdown, before eating a Zigzag, Swagger Bomb and Spear....

He lost the Fatal Four way for the US Title, he was pinned CLEANLY by Zigger

Morrison was first eliminated in the Elimination Tag match on RAW

not to mention him losing in a regular tag match being the man who got pinned for a 3 count.

I'm not gonna say that Morrison is being buried and is on his way out of the WWE, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Morrison is in the Process of being buried and being released from the WWE becausehesucksmassiveamountsofdick

 

[Werddrew92]

Spear, Zig Zag, Cross Rhodes, Gut Wrench.

Jobbbbbbb Borrison lost again. How many weeks in a row is that?
Is he on a losing streak along with Bryan?
Do they hope this will get either of them over?
Doesn't look to be working

Lets be serious, he's being buried and it isn't to his benefit.
His new shirt is also fucking awful.

Yeah they're on a losing streak, but look at MVP a few years ago, he was on a massive slump and then he had the 1 match that was supposed to get Hunter in to the Royal Rumble, and after that he got shot straight back up to mid card, and got a bunch of match and had a win streak going. Morrison is one of the most entertaining wrestlers to watch on either show, and when was the last time he actually cut a promo? They aren't giving the guy air time to do anything with the mic. Yeah I am a Morrison fan and do have to agree his new shirt is just dumb, but the guy is a great wrestler and like most of the other talent that WWE has, they don't recognize it at all.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Yeah they're on a losing streak, but look at MVP a few years ago, he was on a massive slump and then he had the 1 match that was supposed to get Hunter in to the Royal Rumble, and after that he got shot straight back up to mid card, and got a bunch of match and had a win streak going. Morrison is one of the most entertaining wrestlers to watch on either show, and when was the last time he actually cut a promo? They aren't giving the guy air time to do anything with the mic. Yeah I am a Morrison fan and do have to agree his new shirt is just dumb, but the guy is a great wrestler and like most of the other talent that WWE has, they don't recognize it at all.

M.V... Who the fuck is MVP? Oh wait another overrated middle card dud that couldn't make the next step and transition into the Main Event. Your'e right to bring him up in a discussion to compare him not being able to get over, with Morrison not being able to get over.

Morrison is kept away from the mic and stopped from cutting promos because hes really really awful at it. Hes one of the worst talkers in the entire company.

Entertaining? Doing big spots does not make a wrestler good, it makes them a Spot Monkey. Morrison is the WWE's current Shelton Benjamin, too bad he's sharing that spot with Kingston, two Sin Cara's and Evan Bourne.

 

[The Future Rises]

Does Morrison really deserve a big thread like this? Seriously, I get it his contract is ending and there's a big chance of him leaving. So what? He has been horrible as of late. He hasn't shown a lot of personality and just the way the WWE books his character makes him a laughable jobber. Fans have been wanting him in the main event ever since his face turn. I was never a huge fan of the guy but I decided to give him a chance and it's all over now. There is absolutely no hope for him. The WWE is either keep him around to job him out and make him put over every heel on the freaking roster or just let go of him right now. It's sad but it's true.

Another person who has been getting the "John Morrison treatment" is Drew McIntyre. I really like him and really hate Tiffany for ruining his career. Now he for one deserves a push. But John Morrison? He's had his chance to show off what he's got and the main thing that got everyone buzzing about him were his spots. But personality wise he just flat out sucks and has a recycled gimmick used by countless wrestlers before him. I was happy to see Melina finally go and I won't be sad to see him go either.

 

[Sheamus' Suntan]

You are aware that Morrison is being buried, he's lost for something like 8 weeks in a row...

hes been squashed by both Heel Champions

Yeah...and he's also got IN RING time with BOTH heel champions and really he's not been SQUASHED now, has he? Be honest, he's had decent matches with Henry (a 6 - 8 min match is barely a squash). Yeah he jobbed to Del Rio but...Del Rio needed the credibility more.

Del Rio beat him in less than 2 minutes

Rio was fresh off a title loss at the time of him being beaten and he NEEDED to get back on track or he'd look shit for HIAC where he was to become a WWE champ.

Henry Worlds Strongest Slammed him into bitchhood about a week or so ago.

So has Big Show. Sheamus. Christian. Orton. So many others.

He also lost cleanly to Christian, the 2nd biggest heel on Smackdown, before eating a Zigzag, Swagger Bomb and Spear....

You just answered your own comment there. He's losing to the BIGGEST heels, not shitty heels. Yes, he had multiple finishers done against him - you not thought though this is purely because he was used to get a new faction over?

He lost the Fatal Four way for the US Title, he was pinned CLEANLY by Zigger

No DQ in a fatal 4 way. Pretty hard to be pinned not cleanly...and well, yeah, he lost the match. Is it a big deal? Not really. They just wanna push Dolph more as a part of the group.

Morrison was first eliminated in the Elimination Tag match on RAW

So? Someone had to be. Just so happens Morrison was.

not to mention him losing in a regular tag match being the man who got pinned for a 3 count.

Youre missing the point. Morrison is still getting TV time on RAW, the alpha show of WWE.

I'm not gonna say that Morrison is being buried and is on his way out of the WWE, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Morrison is in the Process of being buried and being released from the WWE becausehesucksmassiveamountsofdick

Umm. Contradiction much?
I dont get the amount of hate you have for the guy. He's a solid athlete, does shit people couldn't even DREAM of doing.

Besides, SOMEONE always gets used as enhancement. Just ask the NOW tag team champion EVAN BOURNE who was "buried" for years, taking nothing but losses to enhance others. Oh wait. He's finally starting to get his dues.

Fact: Morrison knows how to sell bumps well - so for the mean time, while Evan and other enhancement guys are doing well and being pushed, Morrison is being used as enhancement. Should he leave? No. Everyone gets it, its called paying your dues.

Everyone pays their dues then gets a better end out of it. If you don't, it's because you're buddies with one of the staff members. It's that goddamn simple. You just have an irrational hate over Morrison...it doesn't make sense to me.

Go back and watch his heel work. Holy shit, he can work the mic. Holy shit he can wrestle. The guy is just a better heel than he is a face, but he's stuck in limbo because his moveset and look demands him to be face. He's one of these guys who...wows people over and over but doesn't have the mic credibility...

Yet recently, while getting buried in matches, he IS getting mic time. I dunno, maybe they KNOW he's got the goods there. Maybe they realise that, so they're giving him MORE mic time in favour of match/ring time?

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

http://www.wrestlescoop.com/2011/10/13/second-guessing-cara-vs-cara-update-on-morrisons-wwe-status-and-more/

- As noted before, it’s believed that John Morrison will be leaving WWE soon. It’s said that he has done nothing wrong or caused trouble for officials but there’s speculation that like Drew McIntyre, Morrison is paying the price for who he was dating – former WWE Diva Melina.

Again Ill bring this up. Morrison is on his way out the door, so the WWE is burying him. He knows if hes not within shouting distance of Melina, Batista or some other guy is going to be stuffing her. Good Riddance

 

[Sheamus' Suntan]

Doesn't answer my question though French. Why so much hate for someone who puts himself on the line every night (house shows included) to entertain us? Why do you HATE him so much that you will jump on every possible chance to slag him off when all he's really done is make a couple of bad choices with who he sleeps with?

Yes. Melina was bad for him. Yes, he's probably paying the price. Yes, he's probably miserable as sin RIGHT NOW, but he's over enough to be reused. Drew Mac's prob? After the Matt Hardy angle, he WASNT OVER AT ALL. He was getting null heat. Morrison? He comes out to pops. He gets pops at shows. At PPV's, he gets the "holy shit" moments.

They may not be doing their best with him due to his dealings with Melina, but that doesn't mean people like you have to rag on him. Yeah, he probably will leave. If he does, it's his choice and we'll see if he can make the right choices elsewhere. If he doesn't...good. I look forward to seeing him on my TV.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Doesn't answer my question though French. Why so much hate for someone who puts himself on the line every night (house shows included) to entertain us? Why do you HATE him so much that you will jump on every possible chance to slag him off when all he's really done is make a couple of bad choices with who he sleeps with?

Yes. Melina was bad for him. Yes, he's probably paying the price. Yes, he's probably miserable as sin RIGHT NOW, but he's over enough to be reused. Drew Mac's prob? After the Matt Hardy angle, he WASNT OVER AT ALL. He was getting null heat. Morrison? He comes out to pops. He gets pops at shows. At PPV's, he gets the "holy shit" moments.

They may not be doing their best with him due to his dealings with Melina, but that doesn't mean people like you have to rag on him. Yeah, he probably will leave. If he does, it's his choice and we'll see if he can make the right choices elsewhere. If he doesn't...good. I look forward to seeing him on my TV.

Ive explained multiple times how I do not think he's a good wrestler, how I do not think he's good on the mic, how I do not think he's entertaining, how I think he's a spot monkey, how he's overrated and doesn't compare in anyway to his ex tag partner the Miz, and how anyone with eyes, ears and common sense could compare him with HBK, I've also gone into detail of how he has a terrible look, horrible t shirts, bad catch phrases, so on and so forth.

I don't understand how you haven't gathered any of that information from any of the previous posts I have made in this thread. Again, he's leaving the WWE when his contract expires, I for one am not mad about that, and it doesn't seem like the WWE gives a shit about him leaving either.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Honestly, I'll put Miz on the same level as Morrison in terms of in-ring work. The Miz is terrible and boring on offense. I don't care about his lack of mic skills because how many wrestlers with his skill set have been wordsmiths? Hardy wasn't. Rey isn't. They're all over with the crowd though so Morrison has that going for him. He should have went to Smackdown where he could have been one of the top faces because other than Cody, no one is doing shit in the midcard.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Morrison is already 6 feet under and with every week that passes the WWE tosses more dirt on his grave. His reaction from the crowd compared to Sheamus and Orton was laughable.


Then Henry pinned Morrison again on Raw... Morrison has lost EVERY match he's been in cleanly for the past 6 weeks, that includes PPV matches. He's done.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

"my flippity favorite is being punished for stuff he does backstage, he should be the next HBK"

HBK did a LOT worse shit backstage and in the ring (as in, unprofessional, not entertainment quality), the difference is, HBK was a draw (in relation to the rest of the roster, not like, Hogan, Austin, Cena, etc).

Morrison can't talk worth a shit, he doesn't really have presense because wearing rockstar clothes and sunglasses doesn't mean you have presense if you look nervous, he also does a lot of random flips that don't make any sense and look fake as fuck. He's not very over despite being a babyface who was recently returning from injury and was in a feud with a hot heel (Truth). If anything says "THIS GUY CAN'T GET OVER" that's it. Flips and a 6 pack don't make you a great wrestler. Getting over does. There is no conspiracy, there is no "he's being held back" he's simply not over. Get over it Morrison fans, he's not over, he's not the next HBK, he's just a flippity, nervous little spot monkey who they've tried and tried and tried and tried to get over but he drops the ball every single time.

Also, what's all this fuckin bullshit about how he "tries his ass off every single night"? Trying hard isn't doing what you're naturally good at (flips). It's working on what you're not good at. Cena tries his ass off every single night, he has consistently gotten better over the last 10 years. Morrison has not. Morrison's bumps aren't any more extreme than Cena's. Taking a flat back bump in the ring hurts more than jumping off the top to an opponent who catches you on the floor. Morrison isn't 'trying his ass off' if he were, he'd be a lot better at talking by now and he'd be a hell of a lot better at making his flips look spontaneous and natural.

 

[keehlnate]

LOL, while the competitors are making their entrance and I saw Morrison, I already knew what is going to happen. Their team will lose and Morrison will be the culprit and I was goddamn right!

Seriously? I don't know how can he get out from his grave. He is jobbing every single time he steps on the ring. The only thing great about today is how Mark Henry executes that World Strongest Slam in mid-air.

 

[supergav67]

John Morrisons contract is soon up & I dont think he,s gonna BE resigned.
As it stands,history,,ll put John in the same pool as Shelton & Carlito,too good for SuperstaRS but never a world title shot,leaving Threaders on a quiet day to wonder how far he coulda gone..
Morrison Mercury burst on the scene with MNM & was SO hated Long kayfabe fired him,leaving Nitro,to fade away.Shortly tagging with Dykstra,then struck tag gold with Miz,(holding a Raw/SD Tag title on ECW ,ku-dos guys).After getting the underachievers title there. (sorry Henry ,it Was!) .Some of you predicted Miz,d reach the top before him,& admitedly,I laughed (okay smartarses,Tonights lottery numbers are,,,????) .before parting with Melina (this guys bad luck!).
BUT ,While he,s not in the World picture he,s on Raw & PPVs without his own webshow,.& everyone is dying for him to turn serious heel,a nice John is bland & generic.a heel John is smarmy,self confident,athletic,good looking,,(,sickening aint it),,He doesnt need Melina or tag partners to acheive the latter!! Unfortunately ,Raw & SD have an ultimate grey man each.Cmp & Orton,heels we love,& nobody in WWE Wants John to top that.(gawd Is there nobody in WWE who couldn,t join the conspiracy stable,John could! get really pissed off about it john,please!!)
How easily could it turn round? Well,III admit,my nickname for Y2J WaS ,the Support Act,(sorry Y.not anymore,promise) He was part of a great Inter scene of Eddie,Regal,Chyna, Benoit & some guy called Edge,A mid card roster John would have had many classic battles in.but as the world title went he was always the bridesmaid,& that was when Raw was Jericho,etc etc etc.Then he unified both world titleS ,WHAT?! It could change as easily as that for John,especially nowadays, ,if Alberto,Dolph,Jack & Henry can get a world run,,,,..Maybe CmP used up the "Im leaving,,,oh,suddenly a title shot" card for this year.
What could save John is a mini draft & Id take Drew,Santino & Mason with him.SD is SO good at building up stars & as Raw is labeled a SupeR show (I;e; no midcarders allowed) now would be a good a time as any Mr Ace.
The TNA route I dont agree on,after a surprise big intro,they wont do squat cause they wont know what his character is or can do .If its John who wants out ,Id say to him,what a great man once said "You cant do nothing about it if you leave" & you all know what frustrated young star he said it to.If its in WWE,s hands,I fear its future endeavors & I hope you like indie shows.guru.,

 

[XXJJ]

I have really enjoyed watching the burial of John Morrison. I hope he doesnt win another match. All this is really his own fault. He never improved at anything, and he has annoying ring rat of a girlfriend.

The constant comparison to Shawn Michaels is comical. He doesnt have the mic skills, charisma and wrestling ability of HBK. Michaels was a star. So they had to put up with his bullshit backstage. But when your some loser midcarder and overrated diva you better shut up and do whats told or else.

And another thing kind of unrelated. This is what generally happens to you when you are not returning. Punk was never leaving. He wouldn't have been given an opportunity to shoot on the WWE, if they ever thought he was leaving.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

As we watch the Resurrection of Wade Barrett we got to see the continual burial of John Morrison.

When I saw that Morrison was facing Barrett on Monday, I knew Morrison was going to do the job again. Welcome to the world of Enhancement Talent, Morrison.

Glad to see Barrett is being utilized better than he has in the past, he's great on the mic and he's improved in the ring